I am taking in March, and Im not really sure where to go from here. I am usually mid-high 160s and I have plenty of new PTs left. Right now I am currently working through the early ones. Should I even bother with that? Ive done 1-14 and am really working through the LR sections of 15-30. as far as the most recent ones, Ive really only done the adds from the June 2007 test to 80, with touching none of 81-88. I was saving the most recent ones for maybe the last two or so ones as the most accurate gauge of my ability leading up to the test. Just wanted some thoughts.

Hey 7sage,

I'm attempting to extend my course access (I've done it in the past as well, if that matters) and am only being given the option to extend it monthly?

Thanks!

How do folks know which schools to provide an optional addendum stating why X? I was reading that it is important for a few, and that on the other hand.. a few schools dislike receiving them. Yet most schools don't indicate which camp they fall into.

This seems unnecessarily non-obvious :) is there a consolidated list of schools that prefer the addendum?

Why is D wrong? Is it because of the word 'attract'?

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I'm scoring an average of 158-162 on my actual timed PTs but I'm BRing at a consistent 173+. My goal is to be able to bridge this gap, and hopefully score a 175+. I understand that comes with practice and with targeting weaknesses. However, I only have about 11 PTs left (I have all the PTs so it isn't an issue of obtaining more). My goal is to take this test by March 2020. I am out of school and work full-time and am not in the financial position to take time away from work. Most of my time is devoted to PTing on weekends, and BRing during eveningsmornings over the weekdays.

As for my breakdowns (answering this question before its asked lolol):

LG: -0 (i am able to finish all questions timed)

LR: - 4/-5 (i am able to finish all questions timed)

RC: -15 typically (i cannot finish the timed section and am typically left with the last passage untouched)

I know I need to really hone in on RC mainly and some on refining my detailed understanding of LR and that the majority of my score increase will come from there. However, I have also been reading a lot online that people have averaged 20-30 PTs before they started hitting the 175+ range. I only have about 10 left and had previously studied for the LSAT before taking some time off so I had used all the tests in the 60s and 70s during that time to prep. I know I need to take the 80s when I'm closer to my test date, but I don't want to waste them if I cant make it to test day/am not scoring where I need to be.

Advice or shared experiences and anything else you guys have to offer would be greatly appreciated. I've been sifting through discussion posts and haven't found advice pertaining to my exact situation and so I'm hopeful this post will be beneficial to more than just myself.

Curious if this is only for people whose test was canceled or if it's also for folks who experienced a signficant delay (like 4 hours).

How many times have you written the LSAT

Hi,

I have written the LSAT once before in October and got 143. I want to get 153 on my next one in January (which is in six weeks). Im aware it will be hard but I have had practice before which I studied for my first one, so I am not starting from nothing. Please let me know your opinions!

I've received commitments from a few people willing to write me letters of recommendation. Now I'm in the process of putting a packet together to help them write it. What kind of guidance would you give your recommenders? Which qualities should they highlight?

I've been Googling what law schools generally look for in terms of recommendations. Most advice is targeted towards underegrad admissions. I've been out of school for almost a decade, so I realize the letters should highlight my ability to still excel in an academic environment. If anyone has feedback/experience they can share, I would appreciate it.

I'm looking for a paid tutor / high scoring study buddy to help me push from 158/160-170+ by the March test. I did look at the official tutor page with no luck yet so I thought I'd make a public post.

I need the most help with LR then RC. I am BR'ing at about 170 which is great. However, between now and March I do feel like I need someone who can make personalized explanations with me and bring experience and instruction that I can't yet bring myself.

Please DM me and we can discuss rate and times. Thank you!

I am just over 40 years old and would like to attend law school, with the goal of practicing in a small private practice.

My education:

Bachelor of Computer Science: 65% average, or a 1.0 GPA. 120 credit units. Completed in 2002.

Bachelor of Economics: 3.7 GPA. 60 credit units. Completed in 2008.

cGPA: 1.9

My first degree in Comp Sci is a train wreck for grades. It was not a subject matter I could excel in. In addition, I worked part time at an investment management firm, and also ran my own IT service company doing work for small law firms. To say the least, the above all took a toll on my grades. Upon graduation, I ended up in consulting doing data management/software development for top tier investment management companies. I realized I loved trading and analysis, so after a few years I went back to school for a BA in Econ. This time I took school seriously. I ended up on a trading desk as an analyst, and eventually managed a large book for a multi national company. Unfortunately the trade floor was closed for a few reasons, and I was packaged out. I now work in corporate development.

Long story short, my terrible grades didn't hold me back, until now. From my understanding, LSAC only uses grades from your first undergrad, but their website seems to contradict that. From LSAC "A cumulative GPA that includes all undergraduate work is also calculated and reported." The LSAC website is not clear if this means simply from your first undergrad, or from all undergrad courses.

Given my age, time between my Comp Sci degree, good work experience, and much better Econ GPA; assuming I score a decent LSAT (165-170) is there any hope for attending an ABA law school? I am ready to do whatever it takes. Another year of undergrad is no problem. I can quit my job and dedicate whatever time required for a top LSAT. This is something I can be fully committed to, as long as that initial BSc GPA can be overlooked/fixed.

Thank you for your time and any suggestions.

I’ve been testing on digital (in my fire tablet) and I think that makes a huge impact on my score. It’s so uncomfortable reading RC on tablet. Any tips would be appreciated...I’ve taken lsat but on paper. January will be the first time taking it digital.

Hi guys

I have been really overwhelmed with studying for the lsat. I have been studying as much as I can on a day basis. I have been still managing to get -11 on logical reasoning. I haven’t been able to focus on rc because most of my time is being devoted towards lr. It’s been very stressful because I don’t understand why I am doing so poorly after so much studying for the past year. Any recommendations ?

Should I keep practicing ?

Does Lr section eventually become easier !? After practice ?

I’m just confused when will I see results ?

I took the LSAT in June 2018 and did the writing section then. The rules say you don’t have to retake a writing section if you have one on file, but would it be detrimental to my application to have a hand-written writing section as opposed to computerized?

Hello all,

As I have been fool-proofing diligently and getting through all the games from PT 1-40 multiple times, I often finish the games a lot earlier than 35 minutes. It does vary depending on the PTs, but I usually have somewhere between 12 to 5 mins left.

Is there any suggestion on what I should do during the remaining time? During drills or PTs, I get lazy and just don’t even review. I often go -0, but I also make 1 or 2 stupid mistakes that I wish I caught earlier. But i realized that even when I do review some questions, I can’t get too ALL the questions that I do sometimes have about 1 wrong too.

It really frustrates me when I catch myself making a stupid mistake, and I really want to get a perfect score on LG.

Thanks in advance!

Many of us dive into PSA mode as soon as our eyes scan the words "Most Helps to Justify". That is, hunting for the answer choice stating: If premise then conclusion. This is efficient and works a large majority of the time, however, I have noticed that recent tests have thrown a wrinkle into this strategy. The trick lies in the wording of the stem.

For example, the full stem looks like: "Which of the following principles, if valid, most helps to justify the reasoning in the argument?"

Let's break this down. We are going to be given an argument: Premise + Conclusion. The answer choices will provide us 5 principles. We are to assume each one is valid or true. It is our job to identify the answer choice or principle which would most help to justify the reasoning. By reasoning it is meant how the premise supports the conclusion. In other words, we need a principle that most helps the premise be considered good evidence to reach the conclusion.

I bolded the word "most" twice because it means that we need the best answer choice in relative terms. An answer choice which creates or comes close to creating a valid argument is great, but, it is not necessary! An answer choice which lightly strengthens and requires less assumptions than all other answer choices also fits the task required of us by the stem.

Interestingly enough, when LSAC uses the "Most Helps to Justify" stem, the credited answer choice usually makes the argument close to validity. That is why the stem is commonly classified by 7sage analytics as a PSA question.

But remember, the wording of the stem does not necessitate reaching near validity. All we need is an answer choice that most helps the argument get closer to validity.

On the past few tests I have noticed that there will be a "Most Helps to Justify" stem whose credited answer choice is not the traditional "if premise then conclusion". Instead, it lightly strengthens the argument, while the other answer choices are irrelevant. Because the answer choices did not match my pre phrase, I panicked. Consequently, I eliminated all answer choices and had to skip the question. But, if I kept in mind that "Most Helps to Justify" does not require near validity, I would have been fine and saved lots of time and stress!

Takeaway/TLDR; "Most Helps to Justify" is a PSA question 95% of the time, but, the wording of the stem does not rule out that these types of questions are just light strengthening questions, which is the case the other 5% of the time. Be flexible and do not panic if your "If premise then conclusion" pre phrase is not found.

I’m confused and worried. I just received an e-mail from LSAC apologizing for my “test center issues” (I had none) and offering me an option to retake Dec 8th or January. Anyone in the know want to fill me in on what this means? I feel like I performed very well on the Nov exam and will be extremely upset if this message means what I think it does...

I felt like I over performed on last week's test and I'm typically a horribly slow starter. I wanted to share what I did that worked well for me.

The morning of the test I went on a jog, had a hearty breakfast, went over 10 LR questions at home and didn't grade them, ate lunch then got to the testing center about 45 minutes early.

After I got my parking tag I did my warmup in the car which included 1 of each of the following: MSS, Main conclusion, SA, NA, PmoR, weaken, strengthen, descriptive flaw. I'd already done all the questions before and I knew the right processes I wanted to get my mind into. I did 1 double layer sequencing game and didn't have time to do my RC passage but by that time I felt warmed up.

My motivation to stay focused and not get nervous for the test is a bit silly but it really worked for me. I made a deal with myself that when I reach my target score I want to buy myself a nice watch so I went in with the mindset of "today I'm going to earn my watch!" This mindset helped me stay aggressive in LR and not freeze or start slow like I usually do because I was focused on my goal and not letting myself get nervous.

The carrot on the stick approach really worked well for me, hope this post is useful!

Hi. I bought LSAT Starter pack prior the announcement of after Nov. 15th , LG videos will be available for premium or higher .

If I buy the potential PT 89 explanations package which will be released by 7 Sage soon, will i able to get to see the LG explanations video of PT 89 by 7 Sage? or I will be only available to see PT 89's LR and RC video explanations?

I will be a non traditional law student who is interested in going into solo practice right out of law school. I have a 15 year background in sales, so I am quite comfortable generating my own leads and developing a base of clients on my own (which often gets described as the biggest barrier to solo practice). I have no desire to do biglaw because if I am to work 70--80 hours/week, it will be for myself. I live in a large city with several law schools (none of them T1) and a thriving legal market. I am asking that people share their thoughts on the importance of a law school's ranking if one plans to go into solo practice right out of law school. For background, my LSAT score above each local school's top 75%.

I have taken the November 2019 LSAT. I will say that it was everything I expected and more. I didn't see the need to complain and took the attitude, "Do your best and don't worry and don't complain". But "Press forward".

I didn't eat the Raisin Oat Bran like I had planned because I tried it the day before the test and took a couple of small spoonfuls. It was awful and tasted like cardboard. I want to try it as recommendation from other people online had that taken the LSAT. I wondered how could anyone eat this stuff. I threw it away. I opted for the McDonald breakfast menu with country buttermilk chicken biscuit sandwich with a hash brown and a large orange juice on test day. It hit the spot. I had studied my test strategy plan and stuck to it.

I am a person of faith and prayed that I would do my best to pass for 20 minutes on the test before I left for the test center and the ask G-d to be with me while i was testing and help me pass. I felt calm the whole way and wasn't bothered.I felt at peace even after the test.

I hugged and kissed my 6 year old nephew and 9 year old niece to tell them I was on my way to take the big test. I said I will see you later on this evening because I expected to get out the testing center around 5:30 pm. I said my goodbyes and headed to the testing center.

I took the Uber to the testing center and was calm the whole way to the testing center. I was not nervous nor was I anxious Once I arrived, I asked the front desk receptionist where the LSAT is and they told me where it was. I silenced my phone completely.I had my cell phone left at the front desk and got it back later on after I had finished with the test. I arrived the hotel where the testing was to take place at 10:50 am. I was lucky to take the exam by myself I was in a room by myself with no others. I started exactly at 11:30 am. I showed my accommodation letter because I am high functioning Autistic and with my admissions ticket was able to sign in at 11:00 am. I had my eyeglasses in the zip lock bag.

I had put all of my energy and everything into the test. I used a time management strategy that was built into my LSAT strategy and served me well during the test. I stayed calm because I remember that a leader has to have a head in a time of crisis. This is especially true of the LSAT.

If tablet broke, I didn't worry because the testing place had huge supply of them and didn't count against the time. I did have one tablet that got stuck after coming back from break. I didn't start the 4 section right away and was given a new tablet after the test administrator graciously gave me a new one after scanning code on the back of the tablet. I was able to continue on.

I didn't want to guess what was the experimental section because I went in with the attitude do well no matter what. I went to do a job that was the most important thing. I decided that remaining calm was most important. The way sections were laid out was not important to me. Just the goal was working the exam effectively and only working my plan by sticking to it. I didn't care about what my score might be. I went with a plan and stuck to it all the way. I was able to make couple passes after each section and had 10 minutes to spare for each one of the sections. I went over them with a blind review and corrected the mistakes along the way. After I was sure, I felt confident that I did well

The first section took me bit longer and was able to gain traction after question 8. I had skipped 2 questions and came back to them later on my second pass. I was able to think clearly and sharply about the answer and was able to. The first section was hard but I was able to get through it without worrying. I blind reviewed it and was able to untangle the section effectively. Skipping hard questions was a part of my overall plan and worked out well.

I had my break after the 3rd section and ate my granola bar and drank my orange juice. I went to the bathroom not worry nor

feeling horrible about my performance on the test.

After completing the final section and took a blind review to check my work on it and was satisfied after correcting a couple answers that need to be corrected and re-reading it my notes one last time. i finalized it and gave back the tablet. I proceed to get my phone at the front desk of the hotel for testing and took the Uber home around 4:15 pm. I felt a sense of relieve and felt illuminated. I was very tired and exhausted. I didn't go out anywhere and decided to crash at my brother's house where my niece and nephew are. I went to sleep for a while. I decided whatever the score is not worry good or bad. If it is bad, i will take it again. I won't worry nor fret over the questions while waiting for the score release. What is done is done. I felt that I stuck to my strategy to and stayed calm the whole time that it worked. That is what matters most.

So I’m honestly starting to believe that this test is impossible for me to even get into the high 160’s. I’ve been struggling with this exam since last May and haven’t gotten as far as I would have liked. I’ve taken a live prep course and invested a few hundred dollars in private tutoring but I still think the November exam was a dud. I don’t know what to do. If I delay, I feel like I’m gonna grow old before ever going to law school and if I don’t delay, that only leaves a little over a month before the next exam. I was planning on going to law school last year and have already delayed until now. I do not believe delaying another year is going to help, but I honestly don’t know what to do. Could someone provide some specific advice?

I am fortunate enough to be able to study for the LSAT full-time, but feel that I have not made the most out of my time. When I was going through the CC, I really enjoyed it because it provided me with structure. However, now that I am done with the CC and don't have that structure, I have really been struggling to make the most out of my study sessions. After reading some test prep articles online, I realized that I would benefit from creating a schedule for each of my study sessions. I want to develop a study schedule with specific time stamps and specific goals. I would love to hear from those of you who have found success with developing study schedules and possibly sharing a sample study schedule.

Some Background:

Diagnostic: 142

I would like to take the exam in February, but am okay with waiting a little longer if it means getting a higher score. I will definitely have to go back to work after February.

I have only taken three PTs because I quickly realized that I need more help with the basics. PT1:149 PT2:140. PT3:139

In oder to adresss the fact that I was struggling with the basics, I purchased The Loophole by Ellen Cassidy and used that to help me structure my study sessions. I was able to get through the book in a week and since then I have been drilling the specific LR question types that I have struggled with the most. I used the data analytics to help me determine which question types I needed to focus on, but I am nervous about devoting so much time to LR and neglecting LG and RC.

I have created my own LG bundle (binder with all games from PTs1-35), but have not gotten around to actually using it.

After doing the CC, I haven't addressed RC in my studying

I really appreciate any input. Thanks in advance!

It has taken me while to post this because I was extremely disappointed and partially in denial but I have to come to terms with the reality..... I bombed the October LSAT.

I scored the EXACT SAME THING (158) as I did in July. I have all of my application materials ready to go and was not even entertaining the thought of a retake but now... I'm reconsidering.

I would be happy to apply with at LEAST a 163 which I was hitting consistently weeks before the exam. Suddenly the week before, my scores dropped which resulted in me panicking and possibly over-drilling.

SO what I would like to know is

FULL DISCLOSURE: My first take I used Kaplan, second I used Kaplan & Powerscore (+7pt jump), 3rd Take I used SOME 7 Sage lessons but mostly used 7sage for help with blind review method & digital testing.

Being that the deadline to register to sit in January is next week, I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could receive some advice as sooooon as possible. Thank you all in advance!!

I have this problem with logic games and I hope someone can diagnose this and tell me what to do....I’ve done so many logic games without timing issues but for some reason, all the logic games on the real exams always seem completely different to me and I find that I cannot make inferences or diagram them effectively. But I can do difficult games outside of the test center; what is going on? This is really damaging my scores, so can someone tell me what is going on? I’m not even panicking when doing the real test