I have yet to solve one LG on my own even without any time restrictions. I do very well with LR and RC, but for some reason LGs have been beating the crap out of me. It is difficult for me to fully comprehend how I should initially set up my game board, better yet make any inferences consistently. Mind you, I am still in progress with the LG section of the CC—but am nearly finished—but regardless, it has been totally disheartening for me.

How long did it take for you guys to fully grasp LG?

I'm not sure how exhaustive my resume should be. There's a six month gap in my work history in 2015 because I left my job in June for a position where I was terminated in August. I was hired by my current employer that following December. What should I do here?

Additionally, I left school and work in 2012 due to illness. I returned to work in 2014 and finally returned to school in 2016 where I eventually finished my undergrad in 2018. Again I'm not sure if this is something I should explain.

I can't decide whether to apply for the binding UVa early decision... I have a 168 LSAT and 3.95 GPA so I am just under the LSAT median and just over the GPA median. I think it is my top choice, but also it is so hard to know when you haven't visited, which I won't be able to.... My main concern is the financial aspect because since it is binding, you are going regardless of whether they decide to offer any scholarship. Does anyone have thoughts or advice? I don't know anything about early decision

Thx.

I usually take 1 preptest and BR everyday with an occasional 1 or 2 day break, and was wondering what other 7Sagers preptesting and BR scheduling is like. Sometimes I feel like i'm doing too much, but it might just be relative.

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Hey everyone! Quick question, how do I pin an entire game? When I review, I have the option to pin individual questions for the game and even star the explanation but I can't seem to figure out how to pin the entire game. I want the entire game to be pinned for when I make problem sets to drill. Thank you in advance! :smile:

Does it work well together with the content in the CC for 7Sage?

Should I do one before the other? I'm about to start the CC for LR soon with Ultimate+.

I've got plenty of time since I'm registered for the April 2020 LSAT.

Thank you!

Does anybody have any advice for practicing logic games when you have spare time at the doctor's office, in between meetings, etc.?

Whether that be completing a full problem set off my phone or writing out a quick diagram, I am hoping for some suggestions as to how to practice without my laptop on me!

Thank you :)

Just wondering what the optimal timing might be in the cycle to make a first visit to a campus that you have on your list? Thanks.

Does successfully filing for patents give any boost on your application if you are interested in IP/patent law?

Does anybody know when all of the video explanations should be up for preptest 87 (June 2019)? Only the logic game videos are up. I would like to take this test before September.

What do you do when you see a word you don't know the meaning of?

(whether in answer choices or in stimulus)

If it's in an AC, I figure I should skip it and come back (unless I can eliminate the answer regardless of the meaning of the word)

Hello!

I'm looking for a study buddy. I tentatively planning on taking the test on October 21, I am scoring in the low 160s. My strongest section would have to be RC and my weakest would be the LR sections. It would be nice to work with someone motivated as well!

I'm soliciting advice regarding whether I should get a letter from my employer. In case it matters, I work at a big and well-known law firm and a managing partner would be writing me that letter.

I'm now about a year out of school, so will be two years out by the time I matriculate. However, I have 2 professors I'm very close with who have written many letters for me and know me very well (we text and catch up on the phone regularly and they know me both academically and personally) who are happy to write letters for me. Additionally, I have a third potential letter writer who heads a research center housed at Michigan's law and public policy schools; I recently had the chance to read the letter she wrote for my Master's application and it was strong, as well.

My question is whether, given that I have strong academic and kind-of professional letter writers, will it raise a red flag if I've been out of school 2 years by the time I start law school and don't have any employer letters, especially from a law firm? For schools that accept 4 letters, would it be worth using my 3 academic letters and also add an employer letter? I think they're all strong enough that they would enhance my application in a unique way. Thanks in advance!

I am studying from a LR LSAT book and it has it diagrammed as

Man->many parts.

I thought “is required” is a group 2, so shouldn’t man be the necessary clause like many parts->man?

I've been feeling guilty for not being able to finish both in a day. After a fully timed 5 section PT, I can probably BR for 1.5 hrs max. I have to do the rest on the following day. Was wondering if any of you guys out there were also in my shoes.

I am currently living in Utah, but would like to take a test in California for timing purposes. I have a Utah drivers License. Does anyone know if you can take an LSAT out of state?

Does anyone have any tips or advice on how to improve on LR speed? I average about 2 minutes per question (and I feel like I am rushing). Although I am slow, I am mostly accurate.

I would love to hear all of your thoughts :)

Hi! I'm studying for the LSAT (obviously). I've been studying since early June. I don't feel like I am making any progress. I'm super slow, but accurate in LG, RC, and LR. I've completed the LG Bible, the Kaplan LG book and practiced religiously for 2 months. I'm still hovering in the 155 range. I've only improved by 4 points since my first diagnostic.

I know I'm bright. I have two advanced degrees and didn't get there without skills. I'm positive that I can do this. I am just freaking out because this test makes me feel incompetent, which just fuels more bad performance on the PT.

I feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough. I'm still just way too slow on LG on the PT.

Would the prep course get me where I need to go. I thought 5 months would be more than enough time but with all the studying I've done, I feel like I'd need a lifetime to get the kind of score I'm shooting for.

Please, help. I don't even know what to do.

Do you guys know when 7sage having the $5.99 deal to purchase the prep-tests ?

I took the january LSAT and didn't do as well as I was hoping. I took the July test, but was just planning to cancel and use the free test voucher. I missed the September deadline, and there are currently no available spots in LA for October. I registered for the waitlist regardless. There is only one location that would be viable for November (anything else would be a 2+ hour uber drive, and I don't want to take my chances with LA traffic the morning of an LSAT).

Should I register for that spot in November now? Should I wait and hope that it is still available after I cancel the July score?

Should I be worried that if I register for November now, the total number of times I'd take the test could be 5?

Hi 7Sagers,

So far I have taken two PTs and they both have me around a similar range. I got a 157 on the one I just took (PT52) and a 156 on the previous one. I know it's just two practice tests, but I'm a bit worried about logic games since everyone says it's the easiest to improve on and I'm still stuck getting around 16-17 right. I'll go back to the games portion of the curriculum since I seem to be missing something. However, I started foolproofing a couple of weeks ago and while I feel like I understand some inferences better (especially relating to in and out games), I'm not seeing a clear improvement yet. How long does it typically take to improve in games? I'm also having trouble finishing the RC passages (which annoys me to no end because I've always been good at RC in other tests). Finally, I'll be going back to the curriculum for some parts of the LR section, especially the conditional logic/SA part. Fortunately, my LR hasn't been too bad but I'm still looking for ways to improve.

My goal is the mid 160s and I'm taking the test in September. However, I have made peace with the possibility that I may have to retake later on.

Aside from going back to certain parts of the CC, what else do you guys recommend I do? I'm having a serious problem with time in RC and LG because I can't finish the last passage and game for each. I know improving RC is hard, but is it possible? How many games do I need to foolproof to see a marked improvement? Finally, I get nervous when taking the PTs and that also contributes to time loss/inefficiency. Any tips to minimize that?

Any help/advice would be great.

Hi there,

I’ve been out of school for about 5 years now and have been working since then. I took the July LSAT and am working through my application. Unfortunately I’m no longer in communication with any of my professors, and I’ll have to request my recommendations from my current employer and a past client. I’m wondering if there’s anyone here who’s been in a similar situation. I was promised a promotion in January, but don’t want the likelihood of that decreasing when they do find out my long term plan is to leave and go to law school (fingers crossed I do get in). Thoughts? Your advice is so appreciated!

@"David.Busis"

I think it was briefly mentioned in the UVA webinar (please correct me if I’m wrong too) that if you’ve been out of school for 1-3 years, it’s strongly recommended (in a sense, it seemed that it was implied that it was almost mandatory) that you get at least one letter from an employer.

This, however, seems to contradict some information from law schools websites/blogs. For example, Yale Law School’s Asha’s blog says “there are a few basic rules you can follow to increase your chances significantly. One of those rules is to submit two references from faculty members who have taught you in a class. Let me put that another way: Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation...NOTE: If you DID submit two academic letters, you do NOT need to submit additional ones at this point. I'm sure some economist could graph this out for me, but there is an optimal number of LORs for Yale and it's somewhere around 2.4...Generally speaking, LORs from faculty will carry greater weight than LORs from employers. This is because the people reviewing your application tend to be more interested in what you were like as a student and what your potential to succeed academically at Yale would be, rather than in whether you are a good "team player" or can "work quickly and efficiently."

https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/bad-idea-jeans-biggest-mistake-you-can-make-your-yale-law-school-application

It’s also important to note that the average age at YLS is 25, with about 85% of admitted students at least 1 year out of college.

I agree letters from employers can be helpful, but it seems that for those out of college for 2-3 years, submitting 2 academic letters from professors is fine, and there’s no “penalty” if you don’t submit an employee letter. After all, you could be spending those 2-3 years working in a retail job or even as lawnmower as you study for the LSAT, from which it’ll be difficult for your employer to speak about your potential success in law school in terms your ability to think critically, understand complex arguments, write persuasively, etc.

Thus, for applicants a few years out of college, having 2 letters from professors seems fine, and not having an employer letter doesn’t seem like it’ll hurt you. After all, for that person who spent the last 3 years working as a restaurant waiter or that individual who started their own small chocolate business may not have an employee LOR, but I don’t think that’ll hurt them as long as they have at least 2 letters from their previous professors.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?