Hey guys! I graduated college/uni in 2017 (based in Vancouver, Canada) and am currently preparing for the LSAT. I'm planning to sit for the exam in October and would love to have an online/WhatsApp/iMessage/Fb/ANYTHING study group. Let me know if you're in!

On the LSAC site it says you can bring a pencil. Has anyone taken it with a pen?

Are you taking the full practice test or just the 3 flex sections and using the converter tool?

Some people have indicated that their score went down when the did the flex version. Has anyone experienced this?

I recently completed the core curriculum and decided to take PT 36 completely untimed. I scored a 172, and although I know this is not indicative how I will perform under actual testing conditions, does anyone have tips on how to improve timing? I am aiming to hit the 170+ range timed by the end of August (not sure if this is reasonable).

Greetings everyone,

For those who have taken the LSAT or plan to take the LSAT in August, I'm around 65% into the curriculum starting In/Out and grouping games then reading comp. then PT's... Should I start a few PT's now even though I am a couple weeks away from finishing LG and reading comp?

Also if anyone wants to drop tips from the Flex test that would be super helpful, I've heard some common issues in different threads.

Hi everyone, it’s my first month of learning on 7Sage, so haven’t fully grasped all the numbers!

Just noticed there are scores above the ACs on LR questions. For example, the curve of the Q was from 125-140, but the numbers above the ACs ranged from 155 to 165. Does that mean that, for example, someone who picks AC B on average scores 162? Then, what’s the point of The Curve?

Thanks!

I'm currently drilling weakening question types and they're honestly giving me a really hard time. I feel confident about my task: find something that weakens the support between the premise and conclusion. I have found that really understanding the stimulus before going to the answer choices has helped me a lot. However, I am starting to notice that anticipating a possible way to weaken the stimulus is really hurting me. There have been times when I have been able to correctly anticipate the answer choice. On the other hand, when I run into a question where my anticipation isn't one of the answer choices I end up getting the wrong answer. In said situations, I have noticed that I am so fixed on the answer choice that I anticipated that I end up not liking any of the answer choices. I read through each of them and end up making assumptions that lead me to believe that none of the answer choices would work. I'm not sure how to approach this issue. I would greatly appreciate any advice.

I am an international student (from India) studying at USC. There are new ICE guidelines regarding F-1 visa holders, which may bar me from entering the country in the next month. Since, I need to register for the August LSAT in the next week, does anyone know if I can register for the US region but then take the LSAT flex from India (if I am unable to enter the country for the fall semester)? This is assuming they decide to conduct the August LSAT remotely as well.

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone had advice for how to improve focus/attention span for long periods of time. Sometimes during PTs I find myself having to read a question 3 times to finally focus and understand what it is saying, which is a huge waste of time. I feel like it was easier to get immersed into activities when I was younger, and now my attention span is floundering!

I exercise about 4 times a week, and have started to cut back on my phone apps that might shorten my attention span (rip tik tok and twitter). Any other advice is greatly appreciated.

Some extra info: My last PT was a 167 but I'm hoping to break 170 for the August test. I'm scheduled to take 16 more PTs before my actual exam (do you think breaking 170 in this time is possible?)

thanks!

How ought we interpret 'often' in lawgic?

Colloquially, 'often' might be invoked to 'a majority of the times' but it seems to me more analogous to "many" in that it can but does not necessarily imply most.

Instead it seems to me that 'often' implies that there is a some intersection in the same way that 'many' does. Just like 'many', often is subjective to the expected frequency of a particular event and not indicative of a particular objective standard (more likely than not aka 50% + 1).

But of course, my opinion is irrelevant... what have the LSAT gods thus decreed on this?

Hello guys, my first timed PT was a 161, I've taken probably 20 PT's since then and the most i've managed to improve is 162. I have read Mike Kim's LSAT trainer, studied my analytics and taken the 7sage Syllabus that correspond with my weakest answers, I've read PowerScore books, and more. I literally have learned so much since my first PT, I literally didn't know anything about relationships or diagramming, and now I can successfully diagram, finish with time to spare, yet I'm consistently doing worse in all categories. I am so disappointed and frustrated. What am I doing wrong???

After getting thoroughly clapped on the June LSAT (8 Points lower than my PT average), I figured many factors could've played into it. I've taken 18 PTs all-time.

For those who have taken an administered test or are close to taking their administered LSAT, how many Practice Tests have you taken and would wish to take?

Hello! I am someone who gets nauseous when I am nervous. I am afraid during the test I may feel the need to barf or run off to the bathroom.

I am also a low income student with no anxiety medication.

I am an also industrious student and trying to make myself as comfortable as possible with the test before test day!!!

Does anyone have any tips for those with horrible stomachs that contain our worst fears? lol

Has anyone done a cleanse leading up to test day?

Anyone else experience anything similar?

***The standard breathing exercises won't help with a physical manifestation of anxiety (at least in my experience), so any responses telling me to calm down/breathe/etcetera won't be the most helpful ;(

I eat healthy and go on walks everyday. I will try my hand again at yoga

Best

Hi everyone,

Slightly different post here.

I have the opportunity to sit down and talk with a superior court judge and I'm just looking to draw up some questions for him.

I thought I'd reach out to the community here to get some different perspectives.

If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them!

I recall a post about the June LSAT Flex where someone said their proctor repeatedly interrupted them because they couldn't see what they were writing on the scratch paper. Sorry to not be commenting on that original post, as for some reason I can't find it anymore. I was wondering if this was just a particularly finicky proctor, or are you actually required to show the entirety of your scratch paper while you're working on it? If anyone who has taken Flex can comment on their webcam placement, I'd be really grateful! I guess I don't see how it could be pointed directly at your face and at a piece of paper on your desk at the same time? Thanks in advance :)

When will we learn if the August LSAT will be Flex? Anyone have any ideas?

I noticed that in some of the newer PT's there is a small 'citation' at the top of some (but not all) of the passages.

E.g. Passage 1 of PT 81 - "This passage was adapted from an article published in 2003". Just curious if this is something that is EVER relevant to answering the questions?

I could see LSAT using an excerpt from a "scientific journal" and there being a curve-Breaker question that hinged on the knowledge that this was geared towards non-popular audience, for example. Has anyone seen anything like this?

If not, why are they including this piece of information on some (but not all) of the passages?

So, I've been studying for the LSAT since February but only got 7Sage in mid-April. While I've seen massive improvement, I just hit an all-time high this past weekend (FINALLY breaking the 170 barrier!) and I think with another month or so I could score that on the actual exam.

I'm scheduled to take the July LSAT-flex this coming week, and the deadline for August is July 15. I don't want to take the October since I'm hoping to be getting my applications out by then. I guess I'm wondering if there's a disadvantage to prematurely signing up for the August test? If I score my highest I would try and back out of the exam unless, for some reason, that's a huge "no" to schools. I've been super anxious about it and feel like having the August as a safety net would help but am worried of any unanticipated consequences I may not be thinking of.

Hey Guys! I will be taking the LSAT in October. I finished the CC in the last week of June. I built a new schedule which involves me taking 22 PTs before Test day. Only doing 22 PTs would allow be to devote enough time to reviewing every mistake and drilling my weak areas. I took my first PT today and scored a 163. My goal is to hit 168. Is a 5 point jump achievable as I take and review more PTs? or should I go back to the CC and spend more time on my weak areas and then start PTing?

My score breakdown is as follows LR -5( -4 BR) LG -3 (-1 BR) RC -7 (-5 BR)

Hi all - do I need a printed ticket to show the proctor on ProctorU for the LSAT-Flex? Thank you!

Hello!

So I am preparing (again!) to take the February LSAT (or even delay to June) and I feel I have a fairly thorough approach.

Years ago, I found some success with the PowerScore bibles. Fewer years ago, I thoroughly enjoyed 7Sage’s methods but felt I wasn’t fully prepared to grasp some of the more advanced methods. So, here is my plan (I like seeing different perspectives/approaches for questions to find what’s best for me):

Phase 1: I am restarting my study with the LSAT Trainer to provide a broad foundation.

Phase 2: I will then move to a more focused approach with the LG Bible, LR Bible, and Manhattan RC book. Then the LR Loophole book.

Phase 3: Finally, I will move to 7Sage after I have developed a strong foundation and will be able to appreciate the more advanced methods (such as conditional chaining).

How should I incorporate the practice tests? Ideally, I would like to save the tests that I can for after working through this material.

One one hand, I feel like I should do some tests as I work through each phase. Maybe at the very least take one at the end of each phase?

On the other hand, I know the importance of drilling and simply reading the information is not going to be enough for me. I’m hopeful that the drills and examples in the chapters will be helpful but I am doubtful they will be enough.

I think at a steady pace it will take me about 3 months to get through this material which would leave me with four months of practice tests until February. With thorough blind review, I think my limit will be two practice tests a week.

So, what say you?!!! I appreciate any and all responses.

My diagnostic was a 144 but I would like to blame my cat for a few missed points.

Thanks for reading my thesis and best of health to you all.

I’m getting a message during my problem sets that my security token has expired and it kicks me out completely. Can you please advise? Thank you.

I'm taking the July flex exam next Saturday and I feel so discouraged. I'm not sure what to do to feel more confident for next week. Any advice?

Hi everyone,

So I had a discussion with a fellow 7sager about the conditional relationship v ----> /z and how it pertains to grouping/in/out games.

My understanding from the CC is that this relationship would not constitute a bi-conditional, because we can fail the sufficient condition /v, rendering the rule irrelevant. If it were a bi-conditional, /z would have to also be a sufficient condition for v, but this doesn't seem to be the case because as I just mentioned we can have v (v IN) and /v (v OUT). For this to be a bi-conditional would it not have to further be specified that we must have "either v or z, but not both" ?

The other 7sager mentioned that it would be a bi-conditional in a two group, non In/Out game. I was under the impression however that all two group grouping games can be conceived of as In/Out games -we seem to just arbitrarily assign one group as the in group and one group as the out group.

I would really appreciate any help because this has been running through my mind all day.

Does ProctorU work on a Kindle HD or HP Stream?