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I've been working hard since February this year going through the LSAT trainer, then Lawschooli's LR program, then I saw the light and did the CC here. Over the last 4 months I've seen an increase of about 4-5 points to a 159-160, but I know I can bank at least 5 more points by foolproofing more and shoring up my LR flaws (which are immense lol).

I plan on using Cantgetright's post CC guide (I'll post the link below) and hiring a tutor but can people in general go from -7-10 in LR and -7ish in RC to -2-3 between now and the April test? That's about 4 months for a 10 point improvement and easy points from foolproofing.

Cantgetright's excellent post CC video: https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/

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Hey guys!

I was just wondering if its realistic for my score to increase from a 148 to the 155-157 range in five weeks? I'm considering re-taking in January and I'm not sure if that's something that could possibly happen.

I just recently broke in to the 150's on my PT's and I'm in desperate need of advice!!

Thanks!!

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Hey everyone,

I am really looking to you for advice.

Here is my situation:

I wrote in October, but there was a problem at my test centre, and I did not receive accommodations for my first section (I have an actual learning disability), and I was informed of this MID section 1, so I rushed through the last 10Qs in that section and feel like i ruined my score. I did not receive my score yet (I have the option to cancel, until December). I felt horrible after the exam. I know the first section for LR went badly, but I felt like the others were OK (I received accommodations after the first section). In October, my score was constant ~158, but the week before the exam it was 158-157-158-156-155-154-152-151 (no lie — i stopped at that point), mostly careless errors at that point from not reading properly, but I was hyper-alert during the exam. I tried to fix that for the exam. The only thing stopping me from cancelling is that the exam was “harder” than anticipated (at east according to my friends) and for some reason, whenever things are hard they work out for me.

I wrote again in November, and, surprise, i feel like garbage. I flagged like 20 questions. I found I got time-sucked on a couple of Qs. I was scoring more consistently the month of November, between 158-162 (my BR between 165-173). I felt pretty good about the games. I was eh about the LR, but the more I “read” and “think” about the “real LR” the worse I feel. On each practice PT I flag the same amount of questions.

My dilemma is that I do not know if I should cancel my October score, and take the free retake in January. Normally I would leave it, but the university I am aiming for averages scores. I have been studying since the end of may. And, in all honesty, I am EXHAUSTED and mentally drained and really do not want to write in January. I feel brain dead, and I’ve been having nightmares from this stupid exam.

I really do not want to drag this exam out. I am also going back to work full-time in January and I am likely going to have a hard time studying and working at the same time (and taking ‘time off’ is not an option since I have 0 financial support at home, besides free rent which will be gone if I do not go back to work).

I wanted advice because I do not really trust myself to make the right decisions at this point, since my confidence has dropped from 0 to -10, but I also really need to hit 160. I feel like a slave.

If you were in my shoes, what would you do? I would love to hear any advice you have to offer (for real — its been incredibly helpful thus far) and greatly appreciate the time you’ve taken to read this :)

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For anybody writing a "Why X Law School" essay, is it necessary to state the exact type of law we plan on practicing? I'm going back and forth between two types of law that I'm interested in, and the school I'm writing the essay for has a great program for both fields of law.

However, I'm weary of sounding indecisive by mentioning both types of law. Is anybody in the same boat?

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I'm in a bit of a quandary and was wondering if anyone has any advice.

I took the October LSAT and scored a 160. I was quite disappointed with that score because on my PTs I was getting 165-170. I think I just got really nervous and freaked myself out. So I am retaking in January and am confident I can score at least 2-3 points higher if not more.

The schools I'd like to apply to are #30-40 such as UF, UNC, Wake Forest etc. According the the predictor I have about a 50-60% chance of getting in with that LSAT and GPA. My LSAT falls slightly below the median. Should I wait to apply to those schools until I have a higher score or should I apply earlier with the score I have and take my chances? With the mid-January LSAT, the applications wouldn't get submitted until Feb.

Or, can I apply now with my score and then if I get rejected and/or waitlisted send in my higher score? Not sure how this works.

Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks.

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Hey 7Sagers! Did anyone else see this from Dave Killoran over at PowerScore?!

“Probably the strangest thing from this LSAT is multiple reports that a released LR section from PT67 (October 2012) was used as an experimental section for some students. If those reports are true, that should never happen.“

Did this happen to anyone? That’s crazy if it did! If true, for anyone that made a mistake on the LSAT: you’re not alone! Apparently even LSAC makes mistakes!

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Hey, friends. I'm deciding very soon which 7Sage admissions package to get, and if anyone out there is willing to discuss your experiences with it, I'd be so grateful! Please send me a message if you're willing to share briefly. Thanks :)

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Apparently the LSAT Administration had equipment issues across North America so they had to cancel, but they never shared what they were. But then a later email sounded as if there weren't enough test proctors, so not sure what really happened but this threw my application process plan off a bit. Anyone else impacted by this? Has this happened before? Sometimes staying traditional with paper and pencil exams works best. I'm still waiting for my confirmation that I can take the January 2020 exam and I've been on hold for an hour with the LSAC line.

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Hi,

I was wondering if I'm missing out on a lot by using these (relatively) older PTs as full length tests? I heard that the test has changed over the years, so would taking only these PTs put me at a significant disadvantage? When I purchased the Premium package I hadn't realized that this may be an issue.

Thanks!

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.

**Please keep all discussions of the November 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)

Rules:

You can identify experimental sections. 🙆‍♀️

You can say things such as the following:

  • I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?
  • I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?
  • I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?”
  • You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅‍♂️

    You CANNOT say things such as the following:

  • Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)
  • The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)
  • What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)
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    What's the customary next step to take when I've received an acceptance letter? My letter indicates that I don't need to do anything until seat deposit time . . . but I feel like I should at least acknowledge that I received it. Yeah?

    Is there a generally-accepted next move?

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    Does anyone have a good suggestion for help with logical reasoning? I improved drastically on logic games and somewhat in reading comprehension, I'm still struggling with logical reasoning. I haven't bought the 7sage bundle but this is because I don't have much time left until the next lsat and don't see the point in getting the ultimate and not being able to finish it. Anyone have any recommendation for a good course or notes for something specific to Logical Reasoning? I asked 7sage help and only thing they said was they don't do individual courses but didn't give me any suggestions aside from buying ultimate when I specifically told them why I didn't consider it because of time and money. Any help is appreciated.

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    I'm 30, work full time, and have a Bachelor of Education and this was my very first time writing a real LSAT. I had LR, LG, LR, LR, RC and I felt like I completely forgot how to do anything in LG and am pretty sure I guessed for the majority. After that, I didn't feel very confident in anything I was doing. I applied to law school for September 2020 and it's too late now to take the January test.

    I'm debating between A) cancelling my score and abandoning any chance of law school Sept 2020 and taking the LSAT again and applying for Sept 2021 or B ) risking it out and seeing what my score is and applying anyway. The school I really want averages LSAT scores and their average acceptance score is 160. I'm really worried I scored less than 140. I'm leaning toward cancelling my score - any advice?

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    I've been hearing mixed opinions on applying in February and was wondering if it will hurt my chances of getting accepted. I am currently signed up for the January LSAT and probably will not get my score back until early-mid February. Should I submit all my applications now and indicate that I am taking it again or should I just wait till I have my new score?

    Also I applied early decision to one school and indicated that I was retaking the LSAT. Would early decision help my chance of getting accepted?

    Note: This school give a minimum of an 80% scholarship if accepted through ED.

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    Hello everyone, I got two LG sections on my test and I really want to figure out which one was the real one vs. the experimental. I feel like I did well on one and not so well on the other one. One of the sections had a game talking about the departments to be approved by a University and birthdays and the other one had games talking about ingredients on a recipe and people visiting different countries. If anyone got just one LG section and tell me how it looked like that would be awesome! I feel like the RC passages were pretty straightforward. There was one science passage that was a little convoluted but the rest were okay. I hate RC but I feel like on this test that was probably my best section. LR... well more of the same. Not so much to talk about those two sections. I have no idea of what to expect in terms of the results. Anyone else feeling anxious?

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    It's been a few months, and I've been reflecting on how great 7Sage was as a prep for my second LSAT. I took my first one after working full time for a summer, and was definitely underprepared. I dedicated two months to working on 7Sage and doing many(!) practice tests last summer, and it paid off. I jumped 22 percentile points with the basic version of 7Sage. I thought JY's approach was fantastic and helped significantly more than the other course I did. Explaining the reasoning and linguistic reasons for why answers are what they are, rather than simply identifying patterns, makes all the difference. Thank you JY and 7Sage!

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    Hi guys,

    I need some advice for studying for a retake (Jan). I got a 169 in October but I hope to break into the 170s.

    I've foolproofed pretty much everything from 1-60s for LG, although I still freeze up on odd games.. And for LR, I can go anywhere from -0 to -5. For RC it's usually -2 to -5. October was my second take too and I really think that I should have some sort of plan to use my time most efficiently leading up to January's exam. Should I be studying individual question type? Should I redo PTs I've done before? (I do have about 10 clean PTs left though). I just don't really know how to go about this because I've been doing in depth BRs all along. I spend on avg 8-10 hrs BRing every PT I take and it's so frustrating when it doesn't seem to get me consistently over 170+.

    Any advice appreciated.

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