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Here's the official July 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.

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I usually finish all games in about 25 minutes and for harder sections, about 30 minutes. Mostly, i’d go -0 on LG but once in every 10PTs or so i’d get one wrong as a result of a stupid mistake. I find myself just sitting there for the remaining 5-10 minutes for LG not knowing what exactly to do. I also try to reread the rules and see if I wrote them down correctly, but even after that I I have time left.

What do you recommend me doing? Should I just take a deep breath, prepare myself mentally for the next sections and treat it as a mini break or is there something specific I can do to check my work?

Hello everyone, I just finsihed my first LSAT today, and the RC gave me a really hard time as usual. I officially started my course with 7sage on May 1st (2019), and according to the 7-8 PrepTest I completed, my RC can hardly reach more than 60%. I'm thinking about taking a second and probably my final LSAT in November. In the meantime, I really want to improve my RC score by being well-read. Since I'm already familiar with the skills provided in the core curriculum, it really is my level of vocabulary and grammar that is limiting my comprehension.

I'm an international student studying in Canada, and I didn't speak English four years ago. Therefore I took a year off and learned the language before I enrolled in regular university courses (3 years ago). Now as a political science major student, I have no problem getting A or A+ in senior level courses, but the RC section contains a lot of non-academic but still formal vocabularies and expression. My situation is that becaue I didn't have the time to learn English step by step (from daily conversation to professional), now I can master many convoluted political theories with excessively abstract terms, but I'm lacking some every-day vocabularies and figure of speech. However, since now I have four more months to prepare my next battle, I want to read some passages that resembles RC section every day to improve my reading speed and refine my ability to summarize and retain information. My study buddies have recommanded me to read newspapers and novels, but I also want to hear everyone's suggestion here. Thank you all very much in advance!

April Li

What do you wish you had done to prepare in hindsight?

What did the test look like? Is it displayed like the one on LSAC (somewhat similar to “fixed” rather than “fluid” on the 7 Sage beta), or something different?

Was hoping to test it today, but I got the paper-and-pencil format.

My experience with the digital format in PT is that it saves tons of time transferring and correcting answer choices, and thus, alleviating lots of stress.

Hi all,

I'm debating whether or not I should sign up for the September test. I took June (161), and I just took July. My target schools are UNC or UGA, so I believe this is close to the median lsats for either (according to LSN). I'm not sure how I did on July. I had the digital, and I feel like I didn't do too well on RC, but I also felt the same after June. I had pt scores of 163, so I know I can get a few more points, but I wanted to apply right as applications open.

I also don't know if I should sign up for September in case I did poorly on July, and if I don't need to take it again, I can just withdraw (and basically lose $200) or suck it up and take it again, delaying my applications.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

So today I took the July 2019 LSAT and was hoping to have my final romance with the paper test but its literally out with the old, in with the new.

This was not my first time taking it digital, I have taken the testing version couple years back. And compared to the one they were testing, this was definitely an improvement. What did I love about it? https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11165

1- It was very smooth, and saved so much time because you can flag a question, eliminate it on the right side or highlight.

2- Easy to navigate from one question to another. You are on track on time because of built in timer, so bye bye all those LSAT watch industry.

3- The tablet was very responsive and you had underline, and three highlight choices which made RC so much more colorful and fun. I was able to highlight AO in one color Critic in another and it honestly isn't time consuming at all.

4- You have option to adjust the color, font, and the angle of the tablet (surface) as you like.

5- Scratch paper available for all sections, I remember when they were doing tests they only gave it for Games.

6- I had a fantastic time and honestly I am excited to retake it. (I took this one just for fun, since I can wipe out the score completely, July perks only)

So honestly guys, you are going to love it and don't be afraid of it at all! Here is my original review of it if you want more details. https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11165

Hi guys, I took July 2019 yesterday and didn't feel as though it went too well. I think ill be writing October and I wanted to get advice on whether I should restudy certain topics, try to relearn everything but more concretely then drill and do PTs, or just do PrepTests and review them thoroughly. I have approx. 3 months. Let me know your thoughts or feel free to pm me with any experiences similar to mine.

Thank you guys!!!

Hi I'm registering for the LSAT right now on LSAC and I was wondering how important it was to purchase those 'packages' they offer. Like this one: "Six-report package — includes one LSAT, one LSAT Writing, CAS, and six Law School Reports remove

Please note that purchasing this package does not automatically register you for the LSAT.

You will still need to register for the LSAT separately after submitting your payment."

It's a bit pricy and want to waste money as it is literally 650 dollars for the six package report.

I tell all of my students to do exactly what I did after each time I took the LSAT.

I wrote down my takeaways about the whole experience – the things that went well, the things that I didn’t anticipate and wanted to prepare for next time, and anything else I want to be aware of and improve upon.

As much as you can simulate your PTS to be like the real thing, there’s just something about going to an official exam. Whether it’s dealing with proctors, the air in the room, nerves getting to you, or, of course, the substance of the test questions.

I took the LSAT three times. Each time I wrote down my takeaways in a place where I could access them regularly. For me it was my iPhone in the notes section, for you maybe it’s someplace else. But use that information to prepare for your next take. I used the time before my next exam to replicate the things that went well and problem solve the things that needed to be improved.

Ideally, this will be your last take, but in the chance that it’s not, this information is invaluable.

One last thing – do this ASAP. Whether it’s when you leave the test center or if you need a break, sometime tonight. But make sure you do it while this information is fresh in your mind.

Hi,

I just recently started 7Sage with Ultimate+ and I’m loving it so far. I set my Study Schedule for the next 8-10 months because I’m working full time and am in school. My diagnostic was a 144 and I’m aiming for a 170+.

I’m set to complete the CC by October with 20 hours per week and then I will do one or two PTs with intensive BRing per week. I will continue to PT and BR weekly until I’m comfortable with my score and hope to sit for the real exam by around March/April so that I have June and July as backups because I intend to apply in September 2021.

Is this a good idea? I ask because I’ve noticed that most people study for this exam for three or four months.

Also, does anyone have any advice or tips for studying long term?

I already occasionally read the New York Times opinion articles for fun, but I’m willing to do more of it and pick up The Economist science section to increase my speed and interest levels in the science passages in RC. My school offers both for free to me and I enjoy it, so it’s no hassle at all to me.

Thank you!

How bad does a cancellation score look? I didn't feel great about the July LSAT and plan on taking it again in September. This is the only time I plan on taking it. I live in Canada, and the only places I'm seriously looking into is UofA and UofC, because the UofA averages the grade will a cancellation be looked at?

So I just got done sitting for the July 2019 lsat. I feel like this is my worst performance ever because some guy in front of me kept bouncing his leg and I could not for the life of me channel it out. I guess that’s my bad for not practicing in conditions where there might be distractions, but I feel as though it severely hindered my performance. This was my third time taking it...if I cancel my score and retake for free like we are given the opportunity to, does it look bad to admissions officers if I have three

Lsat scores in addition to one cancel ?? :(

Does anyone know which 7Sage program I need to purchase for LR and RC video explanations? I need every PT from 1-81 if that’s an option

Hey y'all... I just took the July exam (got a paper version of the test) and realized... I have no idea what's going on with the writing sample. Previously most of the advice given was not to worry about the writing sample. Now that we are taking it on our own time, separately from the test, will the writing portion be given more weight?

Thanks!

Hey guys! While I don’t have another experience to compare it to since this was my first time, our digital process went incredibly smoothly. I actually liked that I could set the tablet up and read without being hunched over. Also, not having to fill in tiny bubbles and worrying that you bubbled the wrong one and got off track for the next 10 questions is a huge relief. I think this method saves some time for me that way, except.. I had a couple questions I flagged to go back to and got short on time so flipping through the screens to select an answer was a bit slower than rapidly filling in the blank ones on a Scantron. I intend to write again in October so either way it’s not the end of the world, I’m just glad I got to experience the digital version for this test. For the ones that got stuck waiting around for the digital, just know that it is capable of being run smoothly. It didn’t appear anyone had trouble with their tablet from what I could tell.

My memory doesn’t seem to be as good as everyone else’s as far as which section contained which questions BUT:

I did HAVE:

Sickleback fish

Jupiter

Tomatoes

Zebra camouflage

Planets/Stars

Bleached Coral

I did NOT have:

Haunted Houses

Coffeehouses

Napoleon

English Trade

Chinese Tea

Arsenic

Lemurs

Furthermore, the RC did seem tough to me in comparison to the recent 80s PTs I’ve taken. I always seem to trudge through if the topic isn’t at all interesting to me and the first passage was awful! So I definitely felt a bit slow. I’m not where I would like to be on LGs yet but they didn’t seem to be overwhelmingly difficult.

Good luck to everyone planning to write again... for me, back to powering through some more LGs.

One huge disadvantage to the digital one is that I can’t annotate or write on the tablet. The scratch paper doesn’t really help except for the logic games :(. Any advise?

So I was writing today in Calgary AB, and U of C. The fire alarm went off twice when we were only halfway through the first section. The proctors ultimately cancelled the test and told us to contact LSAC for further difficulties. I don't want to vent to ruin anybody's vibe but this really sucks. I was so prepared and acing the first section of the test when this happened. And I also had to spend a lot of money just to travel (6 hours by car) just to write which was the closest centre.

I guess if anyone has had previous experience with something like this what is the best way to go about it? Also is there a possibility I can receive any reimbursement from LSAC for wasted travel expenses?

Was worried that the hotel would give me extra noise. Beautiful set up room. Competent 3rd Party testing company that administered it. I didn’t think that anything could out do Spring Hill’s Center, I stand corrected!

I’m sure many of you will be hearing in the next few hours that LSAC decided to cancel the Florida Southern exam due to technical difficulties. I have been studying for the last 4 months and now have to continue studying until September to take the exam which dramatically will effect the next couple months of mine and I’d assume many other peoples lives in the upcoming months.

Probably not the smartest idea to put 85 year old proctors in charge of the tablets the first time they’re ever distributed.

Anyways, has anyone heard of this happening before? Any idea what LSAC will do? Their phones are off the hook right now so I’m unable to get in contact with them. Everyone in the testing center was absolutely furious.

Hi all!

Having taken the LSAT at both Drexel (July 2019) and Temple (2015 December and 2017 February) I thought I would pass along a review for those who are interested. Bottom line: Temple is great, Drexel is terrible.

Temple:

Students are about 15-20 to a room and each has their own table with a chair. You have lots of room for spreading your materials out and the lighting in the room is nice. The chairs are comfortable and there is plenty of leg room. The proctors know what they are doing and it's easy to get in/out, there is a water fountain, and the temperature is appropriate. The parking wasn't an issue either time I went, but those were weekend tests so I would recommend a parking garage for any weekday testing in the future.

Drexel:

One huge auditorium for everyone (60 people?). The auditorium has rows of chairs arranged in three columns (something like 5-10-5 on chair distribution). The geniuses in charge decided to put all of us in the middle column, so that there were four in a row. There is no space to walk out of the middle of the row of chairs without forcing people to fold down their little tables, stand up, and let the person pass. This means that if someone in a middle row needs to use the bathroom during the test, the people on the end will have to put their test away and stand up twice to let them through. When they handed out the test, they made everyone fold down their tables so the person could squeeze through each row of chairs. They then realized they forgot to collect admissions tickets, so they had to do it all over again. Repeat for pre-break and post-break. All in all, it was pretty annoying to have to put your stuff away constantly, especially when they could have put half the test takers on the side columns and thereby created free rows to walk through as proctors. Additionally, the rows are so closely packed together that anyone over 6 feet tall will have serious difficulty being comfortable during the test. I am 5'11" and my back hurt by the end of the test from being in such cramped conditions.

The tables that fold out from your chair are too small for the paper version of the test. The paper extended significantly over the edge, and I broke a pencil tip by accidentally writing off the table. It also necessitated an annoying back-and-forth motion between the answer sheets and the test booklet. I can't even imagine how the tablets are going to fit on these tables with the scratch paper. I think it will prove to be a serious challenge to anyone taking the test there in the future.

The water fountain was also broken at the test center, so there was nothing for people to drink who either didn't bring water or who brought something else (I brought some iced coffee but then had to live with dry mouth for the rest of the exam).

The proctors stamped around as they watched you take the test, and stood VERY close to you when they stopped (I had one basically brushing legs with me at one point).

The room was also insanely cold. I had jeans and a jacket on, and don't get cold easily, and thought it was on the frigid side. I saw one student who only had a t-shirt hugging herself for warmth during the break.

There were also a few semi-inflated helium balloons floating at the ceiling, which could potentially fall on a test taker during the exam. That's not a big deal but it also shows a lack of attention to detail by the test center.

All in all, I would NOT recommend Drexel as a test taking site.

I scored 141 and my BR was 156. My target is 160-163.

My scores were the following:

LR: - 12

LG: -18 😒

LR: -15

RC: -13

After BR

LR: -9

lG: -10

LR: -12

RC: -7

I’m taking the September test. Do I even have a shot? It was the first time i ever did LSAT on a tablet and i was very nervous dor some reason.....

For full disclosure, i was in and still am in the process of FPing games and it’s been a while since I reviewed LR and basically only did RC for a week. Can i get to my target score in 2 months? And if can you guys give me some advice.

The only silver lining that I see here is my BR score is close to my target score.

Help me folks😎

I’m taking my first real LSAT tomorrow! I was wondering if any of you have advice for taking the afternoon test. I wake up between 7 and 8 and am unsure of how I should spend my time before going to the testing center. I don’t want to freak myself out or get too stressed...but I’ll be up for hours beforehand thinking about it. Any advice is appreciated. And good luck to any/all testing tomorrow! We got this!

I'm taking the test tomorrow at a hotel about an hour away, and will need my phone for directions. The hotel front desk said they would be willing to hold my phone for me, but some other posts make it sound like I wouldn't even be able to get into the hotel with my phone? Could someone advise? Thanks!

Hi guys!

I am in need of some Hail Mary encouragement but also want to be realistic... I'm taking tomorrow's test haha

I am a full time working professional and have 2 kids. Since sitting the Nov 2018 test as a "base line" (161), I THOUGHT I was seeing drastic improvement in my scores... I sat the March 2019 test and scored 161 again, but our testing center had some unusual circumstances that were distracting (our proctor informed LSAC of the anomalies but we weren't given much choice other than cancel + free test or see your score and no free test... I chose to see my score just in case).

Since March 2019, I've been fairly consistent in my studies and had been doing 1 PT per week... from May to June I was consistently scoring 166-170 and I was using mostly PT Vol 5 and 6 (used other older tests for drills and digital practice).

Well, I purchased PT 87 and bombed it at 159...!! I had never received that score before. Some things I noticed... whereas when I was scoring in the high 160s, I was averaging -4 on each RC and LR sections, the recent PTs are about -10 for RC and -8 for just one of the LR. WHAT GIVES?!

I did notice that these newer tests "feel different"... am I just crazy and stressing out too much or are the differences between Vol 6 and recent PTs (82+) substantial enough to impact test day performance?