Hello!

I'm looking for a study buddy. I tentatively planning on taking the test on October 21, I am scoring in the low 160s. My strongest section would have to be RC and my weakest would be the LR sections. It would be nice to work with someone motivated as well!

I'm soliciting advice regarding whether I should get a letter from my employer. In case it matters, I work at a big and well-known law firm and a managing partner would be writing me that letter.

I'm now about a year out of school, so will be two years out by the time I matriculate. However, I have 2 professors I'm very close with who have written many letters for me and know me very well (we text and catch up on the phone regularly and they know me both academically and personally) who are happy to write letters for me. Additionally, I have a third potential letter writer who heads a research center housed at Michigan's law and public policy schools; I recently had the chance to read the letter she wrote for my Master's application and it was strong, as well.

My question is whether, given that I have strong academic and kind-of professional letter writers, will it raise a red flag if I've been out of school 2 years by the time I start law school and don't have any employer letters, especially from a law firm? For schools that accept 4 letters, would it be worth using my 3 academic letters and also add an employer letter? I think they're all strong enough that they would enhance my application in a unique way. Thanks in advance!

I am studying from a LR LSAT book and it has it diagrammed as

Man->many parts.

I thought “is required” is a group 2, so shouldn’t man be the necessary clause like many parts->man?

I've been feeling guilty for not being able to finish both in a day. After a fully timed 5 section PT, I can probably BR for 1.5 hrs max. I have to do the rest on the following day. Was wondering if any of you guys out there were also in my shoes.

I am currently living in Utah, but would like to take a test in California for timing purposes. I have a Utah drivers License. Does anyone know if you can take an LSAT out of state?

Does anyone have any tips or advice on how to improve on LR speed? I average about 2 minutes per question (and I feel like I am rushing). Although I am slow, I am mostly accurate.

I would love to hear all of your thoughts :)

Hi! I'm studying for the LSAT (obviously). I've been studying since early June. I don't feel like I am making any progress. I'm super slow, but accurate in LG, RC, and LR. I've completed the LG Bible, the Kaplan LG book and practiced religiously for 2 months. I'm still hovering in the 155 range. I've only improved by 4 points since my first diagnostic.

I know I'm bright. I have two advanced degrees and didn't get there without skills. I'm positive that I can do this. I am just freaking out because this test makes me feel incompetent, which just fuels more bad performance on the PT.

I feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough. I'm still just way too slow on LG on the PT.

Would the prep course get me where I need to go. I thought 5 months would be more than enough time but with all the studying I've done, I feel like I'd need a lifetime to get the kind of score I'm shooting for.

Please, help. I don't even know what to do.

Do you guys know when 7sage having the $5.99 deal to purchase the prep-tests ?

I took the january LSAT and didn't do as well as I was hoping. I took the July test, but was just planning to cancel and use the free test voucher. I missed the September deadline, and there are currently no available spots in LA for October. I registered for the waitlist regardless. There is only one location that would be viable for November (anything else would be a 2+ hour uber drive, and I don't want to take my chances with LA traffic the morning of an LSAT).

Should I register for that spot in November now? Should I wait and hope that it is still available after I cancel the July score?

Should I be worried that if I register for November now, the total number of times I'd take the test could be 5?

Hi 7Sagers,

So far I have taken two PTs and they both have me around a similar range. I got a 157 on the one I just took (PT52) and a 156 on the previous one. I know it's just two practice tests, but I'm a bit worried about logic games since everyone says it's the easiest to improve on and I'm still stuck getting around 16-17 right. I'll go back to the games portion of the curriculum since I seem to be missing something. However, I started foolproofing a couple of weeks ago and while I feel like I understand some inferences better (especially relating to in and out games), I'm not seeing a clear improvement yet. How long does it typically take to improve in games? I'm also having trouble finishing the RC passages (which annoys me to no end because I've always been good at RC in other tests). Finally, I'll be going back to the curriculum for some parts of the LR section, especially the conditional logic/SA part. Fortunately, my LR hasn't been too bad but I'm still looking for ways to improve.

My goal is the mid 160s and I'm taking the test in September. However, I have made peace with the possibility that I may have to retake later on.

Aside from going back to certain parts of the CC, what else do you guys recommend I do? I'm having a serious problem with time in RC and LG because I can't finish the last passage and game for each. I know improving RC is hard, but is it possible? How many games do I need to foolproof to see a marked improvement? Finally, I get nervous when taking the PTs and that also contributes to time loss/inefficiency. Any tips to minimize that?

Any help/advice would be great.

Hi there,

I’ve been out of school for about 5 years now and have been working since then. I took the July LSAT and am working through my application. Unfortunately I’m no longer in communication with any of my professors, and I’ll have to request my recommendations from my current employer and a past client. I’m wondering if there’s anyone here who’s been in a similar situation. I was promised a promotion in January, but don’t want the likelihood of that decreasing when they do find out my long term plan is to leave and go to law school (fingers crossed I do get in). Thoughts? Your advice is so appreciated!

@"David.Busis"

I think it was briefly mentioned in the UVA webinar (please correct me if I’m wrong too) that if you’ve been out of school for 1-3 years, it’s strongly recommended (in a sense, it seemed that it was implied that it was almost mandatory) that you get at least one letter from an employer.

This, however, seems to contradict some information from law schools websites/blogs. For example, Yale Law School’s Asha’s blog says “there are a few basic rules you can follow to increase your chances significantly. One of those rules is to submit two references from faculty members who have taught you in a class. Let me put that another way: Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation...NOTE: If you DID submit two academic letters, you do NOT need to submit additional ones at this point. I'm sure some economist could graph this out for me, but there is an optimal number of LORs for Yale and it's somewhere around 2.4...Generally speaking, LORs from faculty will carry greater weight than LORs from employers. This is because the people reviewing your application tend to be more interested in what you were like as a student and what your potential to succeed academically at Yale would be, rather than in whether you are a good "team player" or can "work quickly and efficiently."

https://law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/bad-idea-jeans-biggest-mistake-you-can-make-your-yale-law-school-application

It’s also important to note that the average age at YLS is 25, with about 85% of admitted students at least 1 year out of college.

I agree letters from employers can be helpful, but it seems that for those out of college for 2-3 years, submitting 2 academic letters from professors is fine, and there’s no “penalty” if you don’t submit an employee letter. After all, you could be spending those 2-3 years working in a retail job or even as lawnmower as you study for the LSAT, from which it’ll be difficult for your employer to speak about your potential success in law school in terms your ability to think critically, understand complex arguments, write persuasively, etc.

Thus, for applicants a few years out of college, having 2 letters from professors seems fine, and not having an employer letter doesn’t seem like it’ll hurt you. After all, for that person who spent the last 3 years working as a restaurant waiter or that individual who started their own small chocolate business may not have an employee LOR, but I don’t think that’ll hurt them as long as they have at least 2 letters from their previous professors.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Hello!

During BR, videos over RC passages keep stuttering/lagging. I thought that this was because of the length of the videos, but it seems to do it even during the shorter RC review videos. Ive tried different browsers to no avail. Additionally, LR and LG videos run just fine, every time.

Is anyone else encountering this?

Hey everyone,

Just wanted some advice with LR pacing. Currently in a 35 minute time section, I can attempt about 21-23 questions. My score is usually between 14-19 correct, with my BR between 21-25. My goal is I want to be able to get through all the questions (maybe even have some extra time to review questions as I do for LG/RC) and score about 20 correct.

To do so, recently I have been focusing on polishing my ability of reading/breaking down/controlling the stimulus. However, two thinks I do want to improve on but not sure how to do so is:

Any advice and thoughts would be super appreciated….

Thanks

If my bachelor degree is not from a US institution, is that a disadvantage for me? Will law schools look at my undergraduate GPA or they only care about my LSAT? Thank you!

#help I'm trying to take a digital test on my iPad and it is not working. I have tried going through the app and safari/chrome. I click on "print and take test" then "next" then "take preptest # (digital tester beta)" and nothing happens, no loading screen or anything. It's working on my laptop, but not on my iPad. I'm currently running software 9.3.5.

I’d like to change my LSAC profile address to my mailing address (it’s currently my parents’ which I use as my permanent address). However, my driver’s licence says my parent’s. Will this be an issue when I present photo ID on LSAT day? Thank you!

Hi guys,

I joined 7Sage in June but was with Kaplan for about a year. I’ve taken practice tests 36-66 already. I just finished the core curriculum and I’m not sure which timed PTs I should take. My test is in Nov and I’m worried if I take 67+ PT that I’ll run out of tests way before my actual tests. Should I just retake 36-66 and then continue on with 67+ or should I just start focusing on 67+? Please help!

So this is really silly, but it's starting to become a problem for me. I started to study for the LSAT in February and have been avg out about 5 hours daily every day. I'm mostly drilling right now and the LSAT practice test I took I scored 164 (I am aiming for a 168-169).... I'm still studying about 5hrs untill I take it in Oct.

Does anyone have advice on how to not get sleepy while studying? I'm well rested, but I think at this point I am kind of bored and maybe that is making me sleepy... it's just really annoying trying to study and my eyes just closing on me every five minutes! Has anyone else experience this? This is so dumb but I don't know what to do!!!!

Hello,

I'm wanting to retake some of my PTs a few months after I took them originally to make sure my BRing stuck.

Is there a way to take a digital PT for the second time without losing the info from the first take? Is there a way to omit the score of the second take from my overall 7sage analytics? I know it will be inflated so I do not want it to be counted officially in 7sage analytics.

Many thanks!

I have been studying for about 2 months and I am currently averaging around 164-165 on prep tests but my blind review scores are 174-175. I am consistently going -0/-2 on LR and -4/-5 on RC but LG can be anywhere from -4/-11. But in blind review I go -1/-2 in every section. I have only taken like 4 prep tests and my scores have been 158, 161, 163, 165. How should I go about closing the gap as quickly as possible specifically in regard to LG aside from just rewatching the core curriculum videos?

Hi guys,

I was just wondering how do you mark or circle the lines in RC on a tablet. When i was doing passages on paper i always circle or underline the key words i think is important so is it the same way in tablet?

All I’ve seen are digital problem sets... is there a way to access a full digital version of PTs we have on our account?

I am having difficulty choosing whom to ask for a letter of recommendation. I know that letters of recommendation should focus on academics, however I have been out of school for a little over three years. Also, the professor that I developed a close relationship with is head of the theater directing department, a feild in which I am no longer pursuing a career. Alternatively, while in undergrad I was part of the student government and spent 20+ hours a week working closely with the staff advisor of the student government on school policy, writing bids, financial matters, ect. (areas more closely related to law). I am still in contact with this advisor. Unfortunately this person was never one of my professors. Should I ask both for a letter of recommendation from both or should I pick one over the other? If so, which one?

I also currently work in a law office and plan to ask one or two of the attorneys that I work with closely for a letter of recommendation.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Do we get scratch paper for all sections on the digital? or just LG?