Hi 7sagers, I am finishing up my master program and April is the exam season in England... I have 4 final essays and 2 final exams which all count 100 percent of the grade on each class. (Yes it is ridiculous) They are all due/happening in April! However, I registered the June 22rd LSAT and wondering if you have any strategies time management? Should I only focus on school work and give up this whole month on LSAT preps and work on the preps in May and June? Or should I do half and half which might be hard for me to switch modes... Any suggestions will be appreciated! Thanks!

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I am hoping someone might be able to provide some information on this prep-course. I have not been able to locate much online and am not even sure if it is still offered. Does anyone know how to reach Larry? Does anyone know the length of this course if it is still offered? I would appreciate any help I can get on this.

I was looking for some resources about this test center but I could barley find any before taking my exam. I just took the March 30, 2019, test and I have to say that I like the test center and would take another test there again (should I sadly have to retake). I think there were almost a hundred test takers, but you have enough space from each other since the room is pretty large. I was probably at least meter away from the next test taker. We also had plenty of desk space. However, the generous space might not be available if there significnatly more test takers.

It was pretty quiet the whole time. The room was really cold for more than half the exam, but later warmed up. I would suggest wearing layers of clothing that you can later shed. The bathrooms are right outside the test room but there was a long queue, since there are only three stalls (for women).

If you don't know your way around DC and have not been to the Ronald Reagan Building, I would suggest you visit the place before the exam since there is a considerable walk to the testing room if you did not enter the building through 14th St. There are security checks at each entrance and a metal detector.

Side note: The proctors were kind. For some bizzare reason on guy came up to the proctor and said he had no pencil... They gave him three pencils. One girl said she was freezing during the break, however, you are not supposed to access your coat since it was outside the test testing room so someone brought her coat in.

I am halfway through the CC, so basically since you can cancel your scores after seeing them, should I already register for the July test even though i have no idea how i will average on PTs?

So I’m applying ED to BU this upcoming cycle. My GPA is below their 25th percentile and right now I’m PTing around their median, hoping to slowly raise that.

My question is- does it really matter how early I get my application in if it’s in their Early Decision pool? Their ED timeline is actually pretty late into the season; it goes from September until January. Thanks for any input you guys might have.

Hey folks,

I am a current applicant.

I am having problems with the LSAC transcript system. Among which, I am most pissed by the following: I told LSAC that my internship in Germany has no university transcript. They ignored my email and told schools that I applied to that I did not submit any transcript. To me that is lying.

They are still lying to schools: they refused to release my CAS report because they are conducting some magic with my transcripts.

I got rejected by a school because of this. The school simply said sorry we never received your full application.

Any ideas to kick their asses?

I was thinking perhaps local consumer protection agency.

-- A bit more about myself --

I had an US undergrad and an European LLM degree. I had undergrad exchanges, which amounted to less than one year of academic work in total. I asked schools and they said we would not require additional transcripts.

However, LSAC required some Germany University transcript with my internship abroad. They also demanded all exchanges transcripts. They made this demand two weeks after I submitted my application, while they already received my undergrad transcript a year ago and it looked fine on their website.

I quote their rules on international transcript for US undergrad here:

you were directly enrolled at one or more institutions outside of the United States, its territories/associated states, or Canada and the total amount of work you completed at all of these institutions combined is the equivalent of more than one year of undergraduate study in the United States, its territories/associated states, or Canada.

Thank you.

hey all

so I've noticed that in my PT phase, I can find myself getting rusty in certain areas after not working on them for a few weeks or not doing timed practice for some time.

For example, Monday - I take a timed PT. Then from Tuesday to Sunday, I spend that time reviewing it (BR, watching and reading explanations for Q's I got wrong, etc.) From Tuesday to Sunday, however, I spend very little time doing any timed work or drilling - I'm just BRing and reviewing my PT and seeing what I got wrong and why.

Then on the following Monday, when I do a new timed PT, I feel myself pretty rusty/slowish on LR and RC especially, because I haven't done any under pressure timed work in 7 days.

I now realize that before any fresh new PT I take, I would like to spend the day before at least doing a few timed repeat sections in LR, RC, and LG just to get my juices flowing and to remind myself what working under timed conditions is like. Otherwise, if I jump straight into a fresh PT and it's been like 8 days since I've last done any timed work, I can find myself kinda rusty and slow.

Has anyone else experienced this??

In a sense, it's like doing a "timed practice" warmup the day before doing a fresh real PT, just to get those brain juices flowing and breaking any rustiness that might have accumulated over a past week.

I also sometimes feel rustiness when I do a deep dive intensive into something like LG fool proofing for two weeks, where all I do is foolproof LG for two weeks. Then after those 2 weeks when I suddenly do a timed fresh LR section without any warmups, I can find myself slow, rusty, and prone to silly mistakes.

Anyone experience something similar. Anyone have any advice on avoid rustiness and maintaining top LSAT shape before one takes a fresh test?

Thanks.

I excelled effortlessly in the valid/invalid argument form drills but CANNOT make even the slightest headway into sufficient assumption/pseudo sufficient assumption questions.

Can I move on without sacrificing a fundamental understanding of other topics? Am I doomed?

Hello, I have noticed that many questions which I miss when taking practice tests are due a failure to read/mentally process words (and sometimes entire sentences) in the question/answer text. I know that sounds absurd but imagine reading a sentence only to have your mind glaze over and even sometimes change certain words in the sentence. Just to be clear, this is not a vocabulary problem, it is more of a 'reading' problem. As you can imagine this issue plagues me in all aspects of the test.

This issue becomes more prominent with more time pressure: the faster I try to read the worse my comprehension is.

I was wondering if there was anyone out there that has had this problem and what techniques they used to overcome it? Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions on the matter!

So I canceled my test sitting for tomorrow's exam and need to register for the June Exam: however, my nearest testing location is listed as an "Area Test Center", which essentially means that they haven't selected the test center location yet (According to LSAC). They said they will inform you of where it will be when they decide upon a location, however I find it helpful to know where you the exam will be before I sign up for it.

On top of that, my first choice testing center filled up already, even though it was available a few days ago(still kicking myself over not registering then).

I have been reading proctor and test center horror stories, and I am worried that it will end up being a crap-shoot if I go with this location, since the only test center in that area which has had exams in the past has had consistently negative reviews(Granted I couldn't find any recent reviews, but still worrisome nonetheless). I would assume that they would hold it there or possibly at a hotel (which I honestly wouldn't mind as much).

On the other hand, there are spaces available at test centers that have good reviews, but they are 3-4+ hour drives.

The longer I wait the slimmer the pickings will be.

What should I do?

Has anyone ever had any experience registering to take an exam at a "Area Test Center" without knowing exactly where it was going to be when signing up/ what the end result was?

Thank You for your input!

Hi all,

I submitted my FAFSA for law school months ago and I wanted to know if anyone knows when we'll hear back? I've been accepted to a couple of schools at the moment, but not all of them have given me merit-based scholarships and I would need to know how much the government is giving me, before I can safely financially commit to a school...

I'm torn between taking the March LSAT or postponing it..

I already sat for a LSAT last year and received 163.

My recent pt scores have ranged between 164~170 and the average is around 167..

My BR scores are around 173~177..

My goal score is 171~174.

Should I take a chance and take the March LSAT or should I postpone and take the June LSAT?

If I do take the March test and fail to get the score I'm hoping for I plan to take the June one for the third time. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Hey Guys, I live in NY, I have been on and off on 7th for more than 2 years now. I almost paid for the testmaster course this week, when it hit me, it would probably be better to spend that money on a 7sage tutor. Are there any available in the NY area? can anyone send me the list of tutors?

I had planned to make this post a month or so ago, but projects at work have kept me pretty busy.

As I end my LSAT/Admissions journey, I'd like to express my thanks to the people who make up 7Sage. I started on this forum after having meager results with what one YouTuber referred to as the "Holy Grail of LSAT prep." Immediately, I was welcomed into an encouraging community that was as informative as it was supportive. Of course, there's some people who have gone above and beyond in offering their support: @BinghamtonDave , @keets993 , @"Cant Get Right" , @LSATcantwin, and @Alex . I genuinely hope that I will be able to follow along as you each find your way through law school and beyond.

I'm thrilled to say that I recently accepted an offer to the University of British Columbia (UBC). Throughout my LSAT prep, getting into UBC was one of the main motivators for pushing my score, so it's reassuring to have that the time and effort pay off. It's a fantastic school, and I'm excited to be moving to Vancouver in September. (If any fellow 7Sagers out there are also beginning at UBC this September, DM me; I'd love to connect.)

Of course, there are similar posts to this one, and in each one the OP has offered some advice regarding what strategies were especially effective for him/her. Because I don't think I can add much to what people have recently offered, I'll just give one suggestion, steeped in hindsight bias. If there is one thing I wish I had implemented sooner in my prep, it is the skipping mindset advocated by @NotMyName in his 7Sage AMA (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18950/7sage-podcast-episode-11-7sager-notmyname-148-to-174-lsat). Going into each PT shooting for 4-5 points below my average was key to helping me overcome my "perfectionist fixation" on certain questions. It's really true that there are LSAT questions on which a quick skip should be considered a victory. After spending a few weeks developing this habit, I found that skipping some questions was actually able to contribute to feelings of confidence and control rather than anxiety and failure. Like most deities, the LSAT gods reward sacrifice. ;) For anybody out there who's still in the midst of preparation, I cannot emphasize enough how valuable are the shifting wavelengths on that podcast.

Finally, I'd like to give a massive shout-out to the tutoring services of @BinghamtonDave . Anyone who's spent a significant amount of time immersed in the 7Sage CC will tell you that one begins to hear J.Y.'s voice while taking PTs. ("'A' What!?!?! What does that even mean?!'") While this remains true for myself and LR, Dave's voice began declaring squatters right in my brain when tackling LG. Dave's knowledge of the test is outstanding, and he's a fine human being. Without Dave, I strongly doubt I would have made the cut for UBC. I cannot recommend him strongly enough.

I'll continue to hang around the forum and offer advice assistance where I can. If you have any specific questions, you're welcome to DM me. :)

Hi,

I live in NYC and was wondering if anyone was aware of mock-LSATs being held before the June 3rd, 2019 LSAT. I have heard of these before, where you go to a venue and basically take a PT under as realistic as possible conditions. Any one know of any in the next couple months?

Thanks.

New lesson under "Resources for Taking Simulated LSATs"

Link here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/how-should-i-study-for-the-digital-lsat/

Full text below. If you have questions ask away! I'll try to answer if I can.

The LSAT going digital is the biggest change to the test in decades. It’s natural to feel some amount of anxiety as we leave the comfort of our printers and pencils behind to meet our digital LSAT gods.

There is no need to make drastic changes to how you’ve been studying in order to be prepared for the new digital LSAT format. You’re doing fine. This is because the content and the structure of the LSAT will remain exactly the same. Far more than format, it’s the content of the LSAT that ought to determine how you study for this test. Since that's not changing, you shouldn't change how you study. Blind Review is still king for Logical Reasoning. You still need to Fool Proof your Logic Games. And you still need to do Low Resolution summaries for Reading Comprehension.

The only thing different is that you should practice taking digital PrepTests on your tablet with a stylus to simulate actual test day conditions. If you don’t have a tablet, do it on a computer. LSAC is providing PrepTest 73 (September 2014) for free here: https://familiar.lsac.org/. We have every reason to believe that what we’re seeing on that site will be largely the same as what testers will see on July 15, the first administration where roughly half of the students will be taking the digital version of the LSAT. Starting with the September 21 administration, the LSAT will be fully digital.

7Sage will be releasing our version of the digital tester in open beta test mode by May 1 so you’ll have an opportunity to take PrepTests in digital format. The point is simply to get used to the act of doing the test digitally because there are differences from the paper version. For example, one advantage for everyone is that bubbling and flipping back to flagged questions are instantaneous. This results in time savings of 2-3 minutes or 5%-8% of total section time (35 minutes). There will also be an on screen timer so you can see how much time you have remaining without having to consult a watch.

You’ll also have to get used to doing Logic Games on separate sheets of scratch paper with a pen. Yes, you read that right. A pen. The LSAC has lost its mind. Just kidding. But they are seriously claiming that a pen is their writing instrument of choice provided to you along with an unspecified number of sheets of scratch paper.

The tablet itself (Microsoft Surface Go tablet 8.3” x 5.5” screen) will come with a small built in stand so you can tilt the screen slightly. If you’re used to taking your pencil to the paper to point to each word as you read - what I call "tactile reading" - the stylus can be used in an analogous manner. As far as we can tell, you cannot freely write or draw with the stylus. It can only be used to highlight or underline text, flag questions, and select answer choices.

The writing sample will be administered separately beginning with the June 3 administration. Test takers will be doing the writing section on their own computers and it will be typed. The obvious advantage here is that you can do this on your time where you want, as long as you have an internet connection.

Please keep in mind that this information is simply what we know for the time being based on what the LSAC has revealed. Since the Digital LSAT is new for the LSAC as well, we anticipate that they will be tweaking their digital tester and the process throughout future administrations. Accordingly, we will be updating this page.

Hello everyone. As a fellow 0L, just wanted to let you know that I have been working with WUSTL'S career center to improve my resume and get some info about different career/internship options. They have been fantastic!

While I do understand a lot is factored into the probability of gaining admission to any certain school, I am turning to my fellow 7sagers for some insight.

I graduated 4 years ago with a (LSAC calculated) 2.65. I’m doing all I can to study and PT above that 165 mark and have made some significant progress (last PT was 161 after an 11/18 151 official).

To help my chances, I’ve accepted a position at a law firm in the city I’d like to go to school in. The job requires a massive relocation (CA to NY).

I’m struggling to realize my chances of actually gaining admission to ANY school with the above statistics.

Does anybody here have any insight into the probability of getting into ANY school with 2.65/165+?

Thanks all - Stretch

Is there a way to rank the most difficult PT in a given year? Thank you in Advance.

I am really struggling with this method of reasoning question. Can any one explain why the answer is E?

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I am taking the July Exam. The past two months I have been attending Testmasters but noticed that it really was not helping me improve my score significantly. I am signed up now for the 7Sage Ultimate. Should I be doing 2-3 prep tests a week before July or go over the fundamentals again and wait to take prep tests till next month according to the Schedule on 7Sage? If I start next month they have five tests a week which seems like way too much!

Hey all, I was recently waitlisted at Wash U in St Louis. A friend of mine told me that this was standard procedure and I shouldn’t be nervous. I scored a 167 on my LSAT and I have a 3.94 GPA. Anyone have similar experience or insight that they can share with me? Thanks!

Alright, I'm not sure if I should be worried about this question too much as I hope (and have heard) that the newer tests are much more logically rigorous. Anyway, hear me out on this one...

This is a "Weaken Except Question" and we are given a fairly basic argument.

P1: Our neighborhood already has the most residents per [recreation] center of any neighborhood in the city.

P2: Access to recreational facilities is a necessity for this neighborhood

C: Closing this center is unacceptable

Assumptions I noticed: Does most residents per captia here mean that all of them actually use the facility? What if the neighborhood is comprised of people who don't use it?

AC:

B weakens the argument. If children, who are the main users of the center, are less populous in this neighborhood then we have more reason to close the center/have more reason to believe that it isn't a necessity.

C kind of weakens as we don't know what the subjective term "often" means.

D weakens because it does the same thing as B and C. These three AC are almost like a package because they all essentially argue the same thing - that the rec center is underutilized and that the conclusion (closing the center is unacceptable) is more likely to be falsified.

So we are down to A and E. This is where my trouble began. I looked at A and thought that it strengthens the argument. Well, it does and it doesn't. If the term "their locality" is taken to mean "their city limits" then yes, this strengthens the argument. However, if the term "their locality" is taken to mean "the residents homes" then this would weaken the argument as it implies that the residents wouldn't be able to leave their homes to go to the center, and thus essentially do the same thing as B, C, and D.

The real issue is with E though...

E states, "As people become more involved in computers and computer games, rec centers are becoming increasingly less important".

Ummm... If this was used in an actual argument in my philosophy class it would get laughed out. First, this AC assumes that the people in the stimulus are actually able to gain access to, and competently use computers. What if this is an Amish neighborhood? Well this AC doesn't work. What if this is a neighborhood in X nation without electricity? The location or time period of the neighborhood is never specified in the stimulus. Next, this AC equivocates "less important" with meaning "less frequently used". That's a terrible jump to make as well. Just because something becomes less important to me does not mean that I will use it less. For example, I've gotten more into the LSAT and as a result my lifting schedule has become less important. Does that mean that I lift less? No. It just means that I care less.

Let me know what you think #Help

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