Hello All,

I'm fairly new at this but I've noticed I'm taking 2x as long to complete the the course sections than what is listed. For example, I just finished for the night before getting to the Main Point Problem Sets and I spent about 3 hours just to get there when the whole thing is listed as 3 hours. I'm worried this is going to take me longer than expected each week broken down which is difficult for the weeks averaging over 12 hours a week on my study schedule.

Hello everyone!

I am having trouble with point at issue questions and I know that you can either make a chart or just use your intuition.

I use the intuitive method and most of the time I overthink and choose answers that aren’t even mentioned by the two speakers. What if I try solving these questions like how JY solves the questions on comparative passages? Like read the first person’s argument and eliminate some answers and then read the next person’s argument to choose the right answer?

Does anyone use this kind of method?

Thank you!!

Hi 7Sagers,

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Should I be aiming to go to the highest law school in hopes of making more money in my career? Will my chances be better for big law because the law school ranking is higher? Are there even lawyers making 6 figures anymore if they just go to lower ranked schools such as IU Bloomington or Hastings? If so, how? Can you realistically make 6 figures by going into lower schools?

Hey guys. I recently was going through some comments in RC and came across a chat referencing the LOCI method that fellow 7Sager @Alex? Would anyone be able to point me toward more information on this or be able to describe to me what that method entails? Thanks a lot guys!

Hi guys,

I am registered for both the September and November LSAT and it looks like I will have just finished the lesson curriculum (not PTs) by the September test. This is with an average of 30 hrs of studying per week. At this point I am considering the September LSAT further practice and hope to be able to set realistic goals after it to shape the following two months of study. As I have continued through the curriculum, I have found some of the practice sets and lessons easier than expected. Does anyone recommend skipping through those lessons a bit rather than completing them in whole for the sake of time? I will have 5 PTs done by September if I stick to my schedule. I just don't know if I am spending my time wisely by answering all of the practice sets and watching every strengthening question video. I am wondering if I should just get the gist of question types, do more practice tests, and move on. Thanks for the help!

Hi all,

I am taking the September LSAT and I am not done with the Logic Game portion. As you can imagine, I am freaking out.

But, anyways. How should I be approaching these lessons?

Should I watch all the videos and do all the problem sets and then come back later to foolproof all the problem sets and questions I struggled with (which, is probably all of them at this point)?

OR should I watch the videos and full proof the crap out of the sets I struggled with until I get it right and then continue to go through the CC, stopping to foolproof before moving on?

Is Fool Proofing for after you're doing with the CC???

Thank you.

Good Morning Everyone,

I plan on studying for the LSAT again from September 4th through either January or March. ( I don't know which exam I will be taking) Anyways, I wanted to know what 7sage course should I take? Should I take the LSAT Starter, LSAT Premium, LSAT Ultimate or the LSAT Ultimate+ ?

My highest LSAT score is a 141 and my target score is a 150. I would prefer to score higher. I will be working part-time (20-30) hours every week but the LSAT is not new to me.

Thank you.

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Hello everyone,

I would like to take the LSAT next year March so I wanted to know if 6.5 months will be enough time for me to study with the Ultimate+ ?

I want to start studying from September 4th to March 30th. I do work however, I can work part-time.

I have years of LSAT learning (2013) but for some reason, I can’t score above 141.

Please help me!!!!!

Thank you all.

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Hi everyone!

I know this is not a new topic, but please indulge me nonetheless. I've had back to back Prep Tests with a misbubbled answer choice...not the way you want to lose points. I've tried to sub-vocalize as I write down answers, but I guess it isn't working. Any thoughts as how to minimize bubbling errors? To clarify, I currently bubble two pages at a time (each page is marked on the answer sheet in separate glances at the test book).

Thanks in advance!

Good day to all! I need some help. I am always getting these type of questions wrong and have decided to make a brief overview of the typical question in the hopes that someone can PLEASE help. :)

Most strongly supports/stregthens/weakens/expresses/describes.

Is there a general strategy to these type of questions that any of you Jedi Masters have helped you to get these questions right?

Much appreciated and good luck to all!

Hi 7sagers, my name is Eliza and I am struggling with my morale and confidence with the LSATS. I need your advice/encouragement from all you long term studiers/full time jobers/low gpa-ers/need scholarship-ers who might have been/currently in the same boat as me.

I've been studying since the beginning of Feb 2018 while working a full time job and signed up for the September 2018 test. I used Kaplan for the material (only because I got a $1200 need based scholarship from my university). The best I've ever gotten was a 158, BR: 170. It's been 7 months and though my score has improved from a diagnostic of 144, it is still no where near the score I need. I am starting to lose fire and confidence in my ability to even reach upper 160s.

Please share practical tips on:

Please read the "lil background about me" section for the context of these questions:

Lil background about me:

I graduated with my Electrical Engineering bachelors in May 2017. I decided I wanted to go into IP law with my stem background after learning about this field my junior year (+other personal reasons). However, after 4 difficult years of intense courseloads at a top engineering school while working two part time jobs including every summer (my family is broke and can't pay for my education), my UGPA is awful. It's a 3.2 (we use the plus and minus system with an A+ and a regular A that counts as 4.0 with an A- that counts as a 3.8). Even if I had known I wanted to go to law school and knew before going into college how important my GPA is, I don't even think I would've been able to do anything differently regarding my grades (ie. withdraw from classes/retake low grade classes using freshman forgiveness) due to the fact that I didn't have the financial means for that type of freedom.

I gave myself two years after graduation to get into law school because I don't want to prolong it and potentially have life get in the way. I figured a year of studying for LSATs should be sufficient. I didn't realize that schools give better scholarship opportunities/highly suggest applying early in Sept-Nov so that is one reason why I am trying to take the September test rather than a later test... but at the same time... I also need a high LSAT score to even be considered for a scholarship. I also want to take it sooner rather than later because I feel that I am starting to get tunnel vision in the way I am studying and losing steam. I know most people will say that I shouldn't even sign up for a test until I have an average score of my target. But I'm wondering if it would even make a difference if I did take it later. Would I really do that much better? I also barely have a social life or time for much anything else-- as all my time is filled with work then study. My mental wellness is at a major low point and is affecting my anxiety and ability to think clearly.

Thank you so much if you have read this novel of a post. (3(/p)

Goal school: George Washington University for their IP program, Dream: Georgetown University

#advice #anxiety #engineer #lowGPA #morale #help #sadness #GWU #fulltimejob #successstory

So I'm currently having a bit of an issue with my timing when it comes to logic reasoning and reading comp. I understand the concepts and question types in LR but I catch myself spending too much time on questions 11-20 and killing away the majority of my time. Reading Comp is just me rereading sentences/paragraphs because I don't really comprehend the information, so I know thats whats killing me time-wise.

Any recommendations I can supplement into my practices. I am taking the September exam so literally anything would be extremely helpful!!!

Hi everyone,

I am taking the September and November LSATS and applying to law school this cycle. I have already asked my professors in person for LORs and they have agreed to write them for me. However, they are asking for an updated resume, a copy of my personal statement and at least two months to write. This would require that I finish writing my Personal Statement and send it to them by the end of September in order to give them two months' time (end of November).

Do you recommend that I email them this month (August) to send them an updated resume, wish them a good summer and inform them that I am still working on my Personal statement but will send a preliminary copy of it to them before the end of September so that they have two months' time to submit my LORs by end of November?

Or should I just gather the necessary pieces of my application together and email them at the end of September with all the necessary materials?

I am planning on submitting my application in late November or early/mid December.

Thank you.

(Very stressed...lol)

Senior in college, 4.0 GPA in a finance major, and just burnt out. Was PT'ing 156-157 before June LSAT and received a 150. Taking the test again in September, but am really not sure this material is working. Makes sense, but does not translate to PT, as I feel I have gotten worse. Honestly just need a 153, but would like a 157 (What I need for full-ride at school I desire). Advice? Stuck and frustrated.

Now that we're a little over a month away from the September LSAT, I'm just curious what everyone is focusing on/how you're hammering out your routines. I'm taking one PT per week and reviewing/drilling/fool proofing in between PTs. I'm a little bit nervous that that won't be enough PTs before the test, but I tend to do better when I do fewer PTs and put more focus on the other aspects of studying.

I am looking for a study partner to discuss some areas that we need help on. For me, I am struggling with assumptions SA, NA, PSA. I would love if anyone is able to help me on this area!

First off, I appreciate any advise and help that you guys are able to provide. I am very stressed at this point because my main goal was to get into the Top 14 law schools. I just graduated with Bachelors this May at the age of 19 with a 3.66 GPA in Criminal Justice and Psychology. I am worried that my GPA isn't good enough for law school, but hopefully with a great LSAT score and a unique personal statement sharing my experiences and graduating so early, I might be able to still get in. Only problem is, I am still scoring around 152-155. I am especially struggling with SA and NA for logical reasoning. I did do some games, but I never got time to foolproof every single game, so I am worried. I have just done the games in the CC and the games on PT as well. I feel like there are people who have foolproofed over 100 games for so long! I am no where close to that. My first test score before the CC was 144. Then, on the other two tests I took after that, I got 150-155. I feel like I should be aiming for the 170, but can I even get that by September? Is that too unrealistic? I am worried about taking the test in November and applying later on because of my GPA. I really want to go to the Top 14 though, so I don't know if I should just sit this cycle out, practice until June 2019, then go to Law School 2020. I just don't want it that I wait out another year and end up looking bad on applications that "hey what did you even do for two years after graduation?" Plus, I don't know if I should just go to a lower ranking school, but I don't want to. I was really set on the Top 14 and I am looking for any advice. I know that some schools including Columbia, Washington-St Louis, GeorgeTown, and others are accepting the GRE. Should I just take the GRE instead of LSAT and see what happens? I am just so overwhelmed right now.

I just finished going over a warm up piece from LG PT46 and had a bit of a realization during BR. I commented at the link below and I would absolutely love to know what other 7Sagers think about this added step going onto each LG game.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-46-section-4-game-2/

It's sorry it's so long. Thank you!!

I was wondering how others have taken this course or the best way to go about it. Does it make sense to just do the entire syllabus in order and then PT's?

To those who consistently score well in RC, do you usually have significant time remaining at the end like in LG or LR?

Hello everyone!

I've taken about 15 PT's now, and am still consistently missing flaw/strengthen/weaken problems—basically the questions that force me to think outside of the box. When I go over questions I got wrong, the correct answer always makes sense, yet when test-taking I struggle with coming up with those types of answers myself. Has anyone else had this problem? Do you have any recommendations for working on this type of thinking and practicing it? I've gone over the CC a couple of times now for these types of questions, but it never seems to stick...

Hey everybody!

I had this idea for RC that I wanted to run by the community and get some input. After all is said and done, the gist of the RC is to actively read so that after every sentence, you are constantly building a puzzle and applying it back on the previously read sentences. At the end of the day, it isn't so simple to keep all that new info neatly filed away in your brain. A powerful tool that is missing here is review. The thing about reviewing is that you need downtime in between the material studied and the actual review for your brain to settle. Just skimming over the selection real quick after the initial read won't do it. So I was thinking, what if you read all four paragraphs in succession and then return to the first selection, skimming it in about two minutes and then doing the questions on it and continuing for the rest of the selections? I have tried it twice. Both times I finished by the skin of my teeth (not much improvement from doing the questions right after an initial read). However, I answered most questions more confidently and quickly than before although my overall score didn't improve much. Has anybody been doing it this way? I figured I could improve in this strategy but I'm still not convinced it is the best way.

I'm having a hard time brainstorming assumptions for SA, PSA, weaken and strengthen questions. Sometimes when I draw out the premises and conclusion and look for the missing assumption, I end up with something that's either not in the AC. It's been interfering with how well I can do on these questions. I've practiced quite a lot, but does anyone have any tips on how to be smart about working on this? Thanks!

Does anyone have a "cheat sheet" for how to approach different question types? ex. main point is to find conclusion then look for answer. same idea but for all the different question types