Got a bunch of messages from another thread requesting the LG spreadsheet I use. Here's a download link for it. It has room for all of the tests, PTs 1-83.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vtJeqvQRCYVZejcXU10u9BRgbnkdkmKq?usp=sharing

I know last minute you won’t make huge gains, but what are people’s study strategies before February test date??

I’ve been doing PTs every other day, and the other days section work. I know which question types I typically get wrong - should I instead be drilling those? I’ve been consistently scoring between 156-159 but today’s PT I got a 150...I’m afraid I’m backtracking. Any ideas or anyone else feeling like this??

Hello :)

I've been studying full time since Aug 2017. Studied about 7-8 hours, 6 days a week. I think I rested like 5 days in total. lol

Anyways, I started with 144 and the 3 recent tests I've taken in the past few weeks are:

PT 76(159): LR : -6, -8 LG: -8 RC -7

PT 72 (161): LR : -3, -8 LG: -6 RC: -9

PT 69 (158): LR : -4, -8 LG -8 RC: -10

So basically I don't have any strong section and I need improvement in EVERYTHING...! I guess my "best" section is LR, only by a little. This is frustrating because I worked on LG the hardest. I worked on daily about 3 hrs just doing LG since Nov. I've been foolproofing 20-35 and I've foolproofed some later ones as well. But when I take timed sections, I am still able to attempt about 3 games. Surprisingly... When I BR, I can get mid to high 170s. The highest BR score was 178.

So it seems like I know the concepts necessary to take the exam, but I just can't do the questions on time.

My goal is to get 165+ but this seems very far-fetched at the moment.

I guess I'm slowly getting unmotivated & exhausted because I'm studying full-time yet seeing very slow progress. I've been stuck in mid to high 150s since October..!!

I'm registered for the Feb test, but because some parts of me already thinks that I won't get a good score in the Feb test, I feel extremely unmotivated to prep for it in the next 2 weeks. Because I probably can't really improve a lot from the scores I've been getting... So I'm planning to take June and Sept test... In my head, I know that I will improve if I continue to study. But as of now, I'm tired and lost as to what/how to study. After the Feb test, I think I need to re-plan my studying but I don't know where to begin... because I don't have any strong sections.

thanks for reading my rant... ^^;;

Hello all! I understand how Negation is different from the Contrapositive, as with Negation we are denying the relationship / conditionality (I think, right?), but I'm struggling to figure out where the Negation aspect fits into LR Question application - types of questions and how an answer / stimulus would fit into the mold - thoughts?

I know better than to be doing things to impress this or that school, but these are all pre-existing interests of mine and I would like to know whether it's realistic to expect to get in with this particular mix of activities.

Aside from a 3.88 (that I plan to push up to a 3.9 by the end of Spring with a 4) GPA, and a 172 LSAT (hopefully- it's what I'm going for! My diagnostic is 157 and I have 7 months.......),

What kind of extracurriculars will help me as an undergrad (junior)? I'm currently pres of a UN-affiliated club and looking into starting (and by default becoming president of) a literary club, a finance club, and (subject to approvals) a harvard-affiliated student chapter (the affiliation exists, but the club doesn't. Go figure), a global professional association club, and (subject to interest and numbers) a track club (without a coach, so not a team). I've also recently joined MUN and hope to chair a conference.

I'd been considering running for student body leadership, but I think it's a massive time commitment and a ton of administrative work (great- but way too much of a commitment).

What kind of internships will help? I'm studying econ and politics and haven't done any yet, aside from the odd work with, and not for, this or that company through my UN club. I'm looking at getting in 3-4 before July, after which I'll take 2 months almost completely off to focus on the LSAT before taking it in mid-September. I know I'd like one to be at a law firm just to get a real feel of it (probably taking this one first), but I also know that law schools adore other work experience. I really want to head off straight after graduating though, so I have to be really picky about my internships!

Thanks for toiling through and for your helpful comments!

Does anyone has a tracker or spreadsheet that they use for LR and/or RC? I know that using a tracker/spreadsheet for LG is common but I was just wondering if anyone has something to track LR/RC progress before I try to make one from scratch and then realize there is one out there floating around which just so happens to be superior to the one I have created.

This may seem like a silly question but for the lsat section on some applications where you have type all your lsats in what do you write if you canceled? It will only let me put in a numerical amount or leave it blank. Should I just not list that lsat because I canceled? One more thing, I was thinking about writing an addendum but I'm not sure if its worth it. My freshman year of college was really bad but after that my grades picked up beside my junior year 2nd semester. I studied abroad in the fall so my grades are not counted on lsac and then when I returned my spring semester of grades were terrible. I got sick multiple times that semester and had to miss a lot of school. On top of that, I missed a week of school because of a conference I was attending for the school that got snowed in and I was stuck there. After, that semester my grades go back up in my senior year. Is it worth writing an addendum if I just say I was incredibly sick that semester? Will law admissions think that's a credible excuse?

In the MSS question sets, I found two interesting question stems. Even though they’re both categorized broadly as MSS questions, I found some nuances for each of them that might be helpful for shaving off time. If you find a flaw in my reasoning, please point it out!

Here are the two question stems and my comments for each:

“The statements above, if true, serve LEAST well as evidence for which one of the following?

- Correct answer not supported; every other answer at least a little bit supported

- In the videos, JY compares this to an MSS except question, where the incorrect answer choices each have a ton of

support

“Which one of the following is LEAST compatible with the information given in the stimulus?

- Correct answer not supported (contradicts, even); every other answer compatible, but not necessarily supported (Why?

Because they could be irrelevant and still be compatible)

SO, why does this matter?

- In a “serve LEAST well as evidence” question, each one of the incorrect answer choices must be relevant to the stimulus

in some way. If it’s not relevant, then you know it’s the right answer choice.

- In a “LEAST compatible” question, an incorrect answer choice does not have to be relevant to the passage. Don’t just

choose it because it’s irrelevant.

For examples of each q-stem, see: lsat 25.s2.q19 & lsat 35.s4.q22

I am having a technical issue. I was trying to ask a question under my test pretest 36 dec 2001. But for some reason when I type it goes to the answer choices I selected, not allowing me to actually write a note. For instance, I tried to write "technical" however, when I got to select "e" it would go to the answer choices above and did not allow me to write any full words at all.

Can someone please tell me if I am doing something wrong or is this just a glitch?

Anyone else having trouble printing this PT? Never had an issue before.

I'm so glad that I understand 7sage curriculum. I'm starting to understand the concepts of LR and RC! I think I will reach my potential score for the Feb test!

Thank you 7Sagers !

So a few of us moms and dads got together the other day to hang while our kids played. We were talking LSAT and apparently one of my mom friends is really good at logic. They were all interested in an LSAT question since I keep saying how hard the test is so I complied and chose a 4 star SA question. Would you believe my friend answered that question in about 20 seconds and got it right!! Talk about feeling shitty and stupid at the same time! I couldn't even diagram it. My friend is also a scientist and has a PhD so she's just smart all around. Ah well - I told her she needs to take the test for me, lol. Love her and wish I had her brains. Do you have a friend like that? Ok, back to work.

Do people know if we need to apply for FAFSA before the priority deadline to get loans? I know that the deadlines for some schools are relatively early? If it is done before summer, will that be ok too?

Hi everyone,

A little background: I first started studying in September 2017 in order to take the exam in December of that year. I had a pretty good understanding of the logic games and they seem to be the only section that I have been consistently improving in. I decided to withdraw from the exam, however, for two reasons. First, I got caught up with school work and exams, and second, I was missing so many questions in LR and did not know how to come up with a proper technique for RC (I am a very slow reader and it takes me a couple times to go over a paragraph to be able to fully understand it, and it doesn't help that tend to get distracted easily).

I then decided to sign up for the February 2018 exam. I took my very first diagnostic in late December after I finished my finals, where I got a 143. Since then, I started studying for 12-15 hours a day from my PowerScore bibles and watching 7Sage videos. I was devoting most of my time to LR as it is my absolute worst section. I did a bunch of drills from PT 7 to 35 and was getting about 70% of them right.

A few days ago, however, I took a timed PT to see if I was making any improvements under testing conditions. I ended up getting a 142. I don't understand how I spent so much time studying only to end up with a score that was just as bad as my diagnostic. Anyway, I panicked and decided to withdraw from the February exam as it was only 2 weeks away at that point and I still was not doing well. Not even close.

So, right now I have no idea how to approach the LR and RC sections. How do I improve? I feel like no matter how many drills I do, there's no progress. Help!

Hello, everyone. I’ve been drilling strengthening questions and I’m having an issue with causation/correlation and phenomenon type arguments. The lines have become blurred for me. Often times I cannot tell which the argument is presenting because they seem to be so similar but my accuracy with this question type has increased. I think I have a strong definition of the two but I’m having a tough time differentiating between the two when presented in arguments. I initially had PT 25-S2-Q10 as causation because I thought the argument was stating the ultraviolet light is causing the insects to be attracted to the webs but I changed to phenomenon because I figured that the insects being attracted to the webs because of the ultraviolet light is an observed phenomenon and the info about Glomosus spiderwebs was given as supporting evidence. Does “probably” give hint to anything here? I figured it would give hint to phenomenon rather than causation but idk if you can saying something “probably” caused something in causation/correlation type arguments. Either it did or it didn’t. When i hit the AC I’m looking for specific AC types depending on whether it’s a phenomenon or causation/correlation type argument. I haven’t come across many arguments by analogy. I haven’t paid attention but could there be both types of AC to trip you up? This is my greatest worry. For PT23-S2-Q14 I initially chose phenomenon but changed to causation. I got the question right but looking back I actually think it’s phenomenon. Which is it??! Also, please let me know if I’m doing too much with this question type. I’ve seen improvement but maybe I’m focusing on this too much and not something else enough. TIA

I have this big worry that I peaked and I am not getting better but worse. Looking at my analytics shows this and I don't know how to get out of this slump before Feb 10! Any tips?

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Hey guys

I took the LSAT in September and scored a 150, I studied quite vigorously all summer but unfortunately I was unable to balance summer school and a full course load in September. After the semester was over I picked my studying back up and am consistently scoring in the 156-159 area. I am writing a prep test every other day, and when not writing or reviewing I have decided to focus entirely on logic games. I can consistently score anywhere in the 17-21 range for RC and LR, but unfortunately I always bomb the LG section, timing being my biggest issue. I just bought the premium package today, but if anyone has any suggestions for where to allocate my study time from now until February tenth I would really appreciate it, I am aiming to score around the 162 area. Any advice helps!!!

I am curious if anyone knows whether there is a way to request a switch of the PTs released with each upgrade? If I'm planning on eventually upgrading to Ultimate + after first upgrading to Ultimate, it would be much more beneficial to have the earlier PTs (released only in Ultimate +) first since I just finished the CC and would like to start fool proofing logic games 1-35.. The PTs gained from upgrading to Ultimate are pretty much useless until much later in preparation (after FPing and earlier PTs).

Is there someone we can email to request a "swap" of Ultimate and Ultimate +'s PTs?

Is it seen as unprofessional to use an email address with a number in it? I made it [first name][last name]2122@gmail.com. I wanted a Gmail and it's impossible to make it just my name.

I had a short 4 month study period while working full time. Recently, I've done 70, 71, 72 and previous 60s and a few 40s.

What do you suggest as my final timed two PTs? I'm thinking a late 70's and maybe an 80-83. Any particular 70s or 80s?

During the week, I'll do various individual sections during the day. Which PTs would you recommend I use of those?

TIA

Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

Some background info:-

My questions:-

I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

Some background info:-

My questions:-

I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

In full disclosure, I took PowerScore's course 3 years ago, though I didn't pay attention or complete assignments as I wasn't yet sold on law school. Two weeks ago I took PT 62 as a diagnostic (I had already taken June 2007), and scored a 163 (-5 rc, -4 lr, -8 lg, -9 lr).

Today, after going through 7Sage for one week (only up through their basic logic core curriculum, so no games or rc or advanced lr), I decided to blind review my PT 62. Admittedly, I only went back and wrote down all questions I got wrong (not the answer I selected originally). Then I took that piece of paper with the section and numbers I had gotten wrong and redid the problems. I ended up with a 174 (-2 rc, -3 lr, -0 lg, -3 lr).

If I continue to study hard (about 20 hours per week, ~20-25 full timed PTs), does it seem feasible that I could take the June LSAT and score a 169+? After this blind review, part of me wants to aim for scoring a 172+ on the LSAT, since I was able to understand the concepts in my quasi-blind review. It seems like I just need to work on solidifying concepts strongly so that I can work at a more diligent pace while doing PTs. Is that crazy out of reach? Thoughts? How do you manage expectations between blind review and timed tests?

My feeling is that I would like to see my timed tests and blind review margin shrink over time (ideally with timed and br growing in score).

If anyone has a good explanation as to why number 23 on section 2 is C, I would love to here it.

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