Hi,

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this-

When I take a PT first thing in the morning Vs when I take a Pt Late afternoon/evening my scores differ substantially. I end up scoring higher on the morning PT's and find myself a lot more distracted in the evenings.

Thankfully, the test is in the morning but it's making it hard for me to analyse my tests.

I'm going to take all my PT's in the morning now, since my last Pt which I took Late afternoon has really discouraged me :(

Any insights on how to analyse test results in such a case? Also, how long does it usually take most of you to BR, I find myself BR'ing almost for an entire day after each PT (4-6 hours) and can't BR on the same day of the test. How can I be more efficient with that?

Thanks in Advance

Hi everyone,

First of all, thank you for clicking into this post.

So, my Sept LSAT score is 141, higher than my diagnostic, but much lower than my practice test score. My timed PT average is 150+, and my BR average is 160+, so the 141 is a total surprise, and I am greatly discouraged right now.

I work full time, so my study schedule was maximum 2 hours Mon - Fri, and 8 to 10 hours for Sat and Sun.

I have signed up to retake the LSAT in Dec, and planned to sign up for the Feb as well since the Dec score won't be out before the registration deadline.

"I Need Someone......To Show Me My Place In All This." What should I do from now on so I could achieve my goal of a 160+?

Thank you in advance.

(P.S. I need to enroll into law school in this cycle. My parents are old and not as healthy as before, I want to make sure they could see me graduate before they are gone forever.)

I prepared for the September test for 6 months and averaged about a 157 on the prep tests I took. I want a 160 at least, but I fell short of that even though I felt better about the actual test than any other prep test. I ended up with a 151, and I’ve already signed up for December. I missed 11 in both LRs and RCand I missed 7 on LG (which is good for me). I honestly don’t know where to start now because I thought I had a decent grasp on the material. I have plenty of PTs left to practice with, but does anyone have any advice on honing these skills?

Hi guys,

I received a167 on the September LSAT and I have 3.84 GPA from top 30 UG. I am also working as a CPA at a big 4 if this matters at all.

My PT average was around170 - ranging from 163(outlier) to 176. I was somewhat disappointed to see I scored 167, so I am retaking in December. My goal is to bring my score up to low-mid 170s.

So far, I have used PS LR Bible, Manhattan LR and RC, and 7sage videos for LG. I ran out of fresh PTs and I have to confess I did not properly blind review the PTs I have taken, which kind of explains -9 in LR.

My plan for December test is to read LSAT trainer, which I purchased literally 5 seconds after I found my score out, for LR and RC to improve my weak areas and also to thoroughly blind review every PT I retake from now on.

Just want to hear you guys’ opinions if I should add anything to my plan..or I guess if anyone wants to share your story going from 165-169 ranges to 170-175, I’d really appreciate.

Thanks, guys.

Feel gutted by the test. It was such a weird mix.

I went perfect on LG -0

I did horrible on LR -8/-5

I did horrible on RC -7

My lowest PT in the 3 months prior to the Sept test was a 163. My highest was a 174.

So here I am. 163 and feeling pretty beat down. Since I'm a splitter obviously I'm not getting into the schools I had hoped for. (2.7 GPA)

I also have a ton of pressure on me so I have to apply this cycle, just not many ways around it...so idk what to do...retake in December and pray? Apply with this score now and pray? Lower my standards considerably?

This test sucks some times

Hi there. I received my Sept LSAT score (167) last night and scored substantially lower than my prep-tests (avg173). I knew walking out of the test that my score would be lower as I screwed up the timing on my RC section pretty substantially and ended up rushing through the last passage, barely reading and answering the questions. My top school is NYU -- I was planning on applying ED and for the RTK scholarship. I am going to retake in December, but this eliminates the opportunity to apply ED and for the RTK scholarship ( I think?).

I guess I'm wondering if there are any other options-- is there any point in applying ED with my Sept. LSAT score and allowing my December score to come in later? Or is it possible to apply to the RTK scholarship with a Dec LSAT score (the application is technically due Jan 1st. but Dec. LSAT score release date is Jan 4th).

Applying as early as possible is something that has been emphasized so much by advisors that I guess I'm feeling apprehensive about a December retake, but I am confident that I can raise my score by at least 3 pts.

Any Advice would be much appreciated.

First things first....Hello. I've had this account for some while now, and upon the great debacle that took place during my first go around back in September I decided to see if there's anybody out there that can point me in the direction of sanity.

Leading up to the September Lsat, I self studied for four months, five days a week, at about 6 hours per day. Not really having any concrete approach to go off of I figured that this would be the proper approach. Using the powerscore literature and just about every prep-test, I had averaged in the lower 160s and had convinced myself that the method of studying I chose was producing the wanted outcome.

I scored 142, in September.

While I can't completely explain what happened, I do believe that time management could be part of the issue for me.....outside of that I'm not too sure where to go from here, and I'm looking for some guidance. I can't really afford the effective courses, and what I can afford may not be enough....with that being said my GoFundMe is...kidding.

Somebody help me push the restart button before December gets here.

Thanks

I just got my score back and its not pretty. I am aiming to take June 2018, since I need like 20 points improvement to have a shot at any Top law schools. I used a bunch of top company materials like (Testmasters, Powerscore, etc) but I don't think they have worked for me/I work at a huge law firm so it was a struggle to be able to leave work on time to study. : ( I am wondering if I should start studying all over with 7Sage or go back over the old books and materials? I don't want to waste time/money again on huge prep courses. I also need someone there to possibly ask questions which I didn't really have before, so is there like an office hours? or online skype tutor? Sorry for the long post.

Hey everyone,

I underperformed so much on the September LSAT. I don't know what happened but I know my PT were way higher. Im going to retake in December. I studied with Kaplan and it was absolute garbage. Which 7sage package does everyone recommend for the next month and a half?

I just want to say "thank you" and give well wishes to everyone involved in this site and community for providing a sense of direction, instruction, and motivation in this long arduous journey of LSAT study. I won't go into my own difficult journey and relationship to the test now, since it would distract from how grateful I am. Going into this cycle, I set what I thought was a reasonable goal of not getting less than a 167 and everything else was a "cherry on top." I never dreamed that there would be very many cherries on top, but none of this would have been possible without the videos, study groups, or the very many comments and helpful discussions that I had throughout the process. This is not hyperbole: writing my PhD thesis, teaching a course, and trying to handle the obligations of life would not have allowed me--who has a track record of being very (very, very, very) terrible at "tasking", let alone multitasking (hats off to the parents out there)--to progress at faster than a snail's pace on my competence and confidence with the test.--That is, not without 7sage and you all. I'm so glad to have had your help and guidence; I really appreciate it.

Moving forward, I plan on continuing my involvement in this community--especially, as I haven't even begun to really work on applications--and am more than happy to assist others in any way I can. All anyone has to do is reach out; I'll also be patrolling the boards to offer my two cents (where I think it might be worth 2 cents). But a thousand thanks to all of you; 7sage and the 7sage community has already been well worth it.--A.c.S

If so, I was wondering is someone could break down one of the LR questions for me?

Grey day has come and gone taking my dreams of a 175 with it ? Yesterday I was distraught, today I am resolved. I'm planning to retake in December and finally get a score that matches my PTs!

I have all but finished several applications, just need to sign and finalize my essays. My question is how the process of updating an app goes. Is there an advantage to applying now with my sept. score, and then updating when hit a 178 (lol, as if) in december? Or should I wait to apply until January?

Financial aid is a big concern for me, so I badly wanted to apply early, but I realize that a 2 point bump would help more than a 3 month wait. Advice? Thoughts? Comfort food suggestions? Haha

Hey everyone,

Check out our new spreadsheet of law school medians. Someone on TLS did this a while ago, but didn't update it for 2017. We've also added application requirements for T20 schools. The sheet is free to anyone:

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Hi, everyone. I'd like to start by saying I just now encountered 7Sage for the first time and quickly decided to get an account. I've spent some time today reading through the discussions and it has already been helpful. Though it has calmed some of my anxieties, I feel I have created a new one. There are many discussions in which I have read people commenting they study 8 hours a day, and it honestly had me panic a bit. I work full- time and do not have the time to be studying 8 hours a day without a burnout. Considering my September LSAT score (first LSAT I have taken), I feel like I SHOULD be studying for that long. How can this be, though? How is it possible to study for so long while maintaining a full time job? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi! Before everyone tells me to retake.... I am :) I received my LSAT score last night and I got a 149. While this was a 10 point increase from my diagnostic and I should be excited about that, we all know that this isn't going to get me into a T2 or T1 school. While a T1 school would be AMAZING, I am totally okay with going to a T2 school especially the ones in my region. That being said a score in the high 150's - low 160's would be ideal. When I was PTing, I was in this range which is why my score is sort of a surprise. Funny enough, I am not depressed nor have I even cried because I KNEW that damn 1st LR really fucked my day up. I increased dramatically on timing but I think now my issue is accuracy (where before it was the opposite).

Anyways, I need help trying to put together a study schedule, who to ask to help tutor me ( & do you accept credit cards @"Cant Get Right" ), if I should totally scratch 7sage and do an in-class program? I have a 3.65 GPA, a URM, extensive work experience, and hopefully a good personal statement (if anyone wants to read it). I have signed up for December so let's get to it!

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Congratulations! You have completed and survived a fully time and administered LSAT. Regardless of score this is a huge feat!

For those that achieved their goal score or better, an extra congrats to you! Your hard work and dedication payed off! You earned your score be proud!

For the rest of us, well don't let it get you down. We have to get back up and start working hard again. Our goals are attainable, we just need to keep on working to get there. Let those who succeed motivate you to keep working toward success! We need to trust in the method and really put our all into the test.

Do not beat yourself up, or let it define you. Just because you failed once doesn't mean you will have the same outcome again. Get back up and keep on running!

Hi everyone!! I wrote my Sept 2017 LSAT a month ago and before that I was scoring consistently in the high 160's to the early 170's on all my prep tests. I got my LSAT score today and scored a 158. I am genuinely confused and I don't know what went wrong. I get bad test day anxiety and I have never even scored lower than 163 even when I had just started pt-ing.

I wrote the June 2017 LSAT as well and had really bad anxiety and got 160.

I don't know what I can do for December. My fundamentals are pretty solid considering I was hitting 170's even on very recent prep tests.

I am concerned as well that I did worse on the second time round and what law schools will think when they see that. Any advice on that?

I know that I can do well on the LSAT but I don't know what happens on test date and how to overcome that anxiety that gets me a score that is not representative of my abilities. Do I have enough time to make enough of a difference before December?

It seems that after each LSAT exam, companies like Powerscore and others recap the exam, and discuss the amount and difficulty of questions. Is this helpful to us? IE, does the degree of difficulty of one exam predict the degree of difficulty of the following exam?

Hi there! So I just took the September test and received my score which ended up being even lower than all my PTs. I self-studied with the powerscore books and took dozens of PTs, felt pretty prepared. I also studied with 7sage's free video explanations which helped A LOT! I'm thinking I just need to dig a little deeper. Looking to up my score 6-8 points. I'm looking towards the starter because it's cheaper and I can actually afford that, unlike the others. Would I be fine doing the Starter or should I just look somewhere else at another course?

Like many (hopefully not too many!) others on here, I am disappointed with my September score and am retaking. A really rough reading comp section was the only thing keeping me from my target score, so I'm planning on drilling this shit into the ground. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

So I got my score, and although I'm not sad about it, I'm not jumping for joy. My dream school is Northwestern, and my score is one point below the median. I know this doesn't put me in a great place (GPA is 3.6). I also know that it looks like I'm the perfect example of someone who should retake.

However, I put my heart and soul into this last exam. I was PTing in the 170s (took a proctored June 2017 LSAT as a PT and got a 170). I feel like I would be taking the December test for a chance I get lucky because I don't think I can improve my LSAT capabilities. Also, work will really be ramping up for me in the next couple weeks.

Any advice? My main concern is that I know the earlier you apply, the better your chances, but how much should that factor into your decision?

Anyone applying to H/Y/ and/or S who wants to do a personal statement swap? Mine is (broadly) related to wanting to do social movement lawyering.

So I posted a couple days ago about LSAC miscalculating my GPA on the Academic Summary Report; they treated eight hours of high school test credit as a C. They fixed it today, but I'm posting this to remind people to verify their grades. I know LSAC has their own way of calculating GPA, but this was pretty blatant and took my overall GPA down by 0.10

Good luck all!

I got a 167 on the september test, and I am happy with it but i was hoping for a 170+

Cornell is my dream school, so i was hoping to get peoples' opinions here and see if i should take one more shot at the test?

hope everyone who took the test performed as they wished!!