June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 38 | Tuesday, Dec 12rd | 7:30 pm EST

I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

Provisional Schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=f3n8s2l60gkgm2ju8m8kk4vhn4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FNew_York

Note:

For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

Mark any questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet below!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wLCip2bbWWD_h3WqGqBY6YaGPGdGQdSsr3gnphKYdxo/edit#gid=0

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 38

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 7:30 PM - 11:30 PM EST

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I am having a hard time understanding what the questions in the LR section is asking. But once I understand what the question is asking I can answer with no problem. I spend so much time going back to the CC to figure out what the question is asking so I wanted to see if anyone has flash cards about question type of a method to understanding what is being asked.

I am good with MBT, MP,WEAKENING STRENGTH, PARALLEL and MSS. Everything else I spend hours trying to figure out what test makers are asking.

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I am entirely uncertain on how I did for Dec test. This is my first time taking the test. I studied intensely for months.

LR (25) - RC - LR (25) - LR (26) - LG

1st LR - took longer than normal to get through. Guessed on about 4 answers. Panicked a bit which did not help.

RC - weakest section. Guesses on Chinese prompt. Thought Social Darwinism prompt was confusing

2nd LR - blew through that section. No problem

3rd LR - did not think it was too tough. Took a bit longer than 2nd LR.

LG - what the actual eff was that last game? The second game took me 15 minutes. I answered the first game in 5 minutes - moved really quickly, didn't check. I am so uncertain. Normally I max at -2 on games. I have NO idea on this section.

I feel manic about this LSAT. On one hand, everything could have been fine. Yeah, I guessed on about 8 questions, but those are the areas I tested weakly on in PT. On the other hand, everything went horrible. I messed up every section and hope for a 154 in my wildest dreams.

HELP! Does anyone else feel like this?

I graduated undergrad in 1997. There is 1 professor who I'm still in touch with, and he would write me a fine LOR. But I doubt he really remembers my academic performance from 20 years ago. My other LORs are from judges and other prominent legal types who know me much better. Would the absence of an academic LOR seem suspect, or is it understood that older students don't generally have them? Many thanks.

I’m going to study full time for 2 months up until feb. which plan should I get? Is the basic sufficient? Thanks!

Hey everyone!

Has anyone had success speeding up their time on inference questions (MSS/MBT) questions? While I don't miss too many of them, I notice that they tend to be time sinks for me, especially the harder ones (I do have a strong grasp of conditional logic).

I'm specifically drilling these types now, which I'm sure will help, but was curious if anyone else had insights on getting through these in a more efficient manner.

Duke admitted me through Priority Track yesterday!

Does anyone else here have a Priority Track invite? It's such a great program. It takes a bit of the stress off those admitted, and allows them the opportunity to negotiate financial aid early. I wish more schools did this.

With that said, does anyone here have any experience negotiating financial aid with Duke (or any other school)? What do I do? lol

Any help you guys could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-11/

(B) None of the films released in country Z in 1992 were based on books other than novels.

My hunch tells me the answer is B, and I am pretty sure it is the answer, but I need some clarity. Because it didn't really match my prephrase that "if 1992 films, then no more than 25% based on books from 1991. I see how B could be a missing premise, but I don't see it as a sufficient assumption, as it able to make the argument valid.

I'm curious if you're going the extra mile for schools that you don't really want to go to and with your stats you should be able to get in to.

My issue is specifically about Pepperdine. The optionals are write about either a goal you pursued, your passion, a mistake you made, or who you'd want to road trip with. My personal statement is 3 pages and it definitely covers what i'm passionate about, a goal i pursued, and is sort of about a "mistake" I made and the postives that came out of it in that I wrote about my attitude changing from negative to positive when I overcame adversity. My GPA is well over the 75th percentile and my LSAT score is right under the 50th percentile. I don't mind writing the optional essay but I'd rather not if I don't have to. I worked really hard on my PS over a year and it took me a couple weeks to clean up my final draft. I can't imagine being able to write just as well about wanting to go on a road trip with Beyonce or something.

Hey everyone! I had 2 questions about the admissions process that I was hoping to get some advice on:

Coming into college, I was a student in my college's education school. My major was along the lines of child developmental psychology. But during my first year, I also took some philosophy classes and sat in on a sociology class that I just found far more compelling than my child developmental psychology classes. And so, in my second year, I switched to the Arts & Sciences school and switched my major to philosophy and sociology-- these were also the majors I graduated with. I just thought this school switch on my transcript might be a question mark for the admissions committee. Should I write a brief addendum explaining why I switched schools, citing the exact reasons I mentioned above?

During the fall semester of my junior year, I took 4 classes instead of the typical 5 classes/semester. I was studying for the LSAT during that time and just wanted a lighter school workload. However, the 4 classes I took were all upper-level and graduate-level classes related to my majors. Overall, I still got the credits needed to graduate because I had taken some seminars and classes with labs that offered additional credits during freshman and sophomore year. And so, should I write an addendum for this case? Is taking 4 classes instead of the norm 5 classes even considered an abnormally "lighter" class load?

If anyone had advice at all, I would appreciate it so, so much! Taking a long shot here but tagging @"David.Busis" to see if you had any advice! Thanks so much guys!!

Hey! I'm looking for a study buddy/study group in San Diego. Anyone interested?

This is a paragraph I got from the tips on the logic games section under the syllabus section of "Resources for Taking LSAT"

"If you encounter a question that you cannot solve quickly, skip. Come back on round 2 if you have time. Clearly, something faulty is happening in your reasoning and it's blinding you to the right answer. You want give yourself some time and space away from that reasoning. Let it "go to bed" so to speak. Come back on round 2 with a fresh perspective."

The part I'm confused about is the last bit that I bolded. Lets say you're on game 1 of a LG section and you get to question #3 and you can't get it. In this scenario you would skip the question but does the "skip" referred to above mean that, you skip #3 and go do #4 and #5 and then go on to the next game, (coming back after going through all the other games, similar to a LR type of skip) OR does the "skip and come back on round 2" mean that you skip #3 go do #4 and #5 then come back to #3 before moving to Game 2?

If someone could clear this up for me that would be great. I wrote the Dec. LSAT and I'm confident I tanked the games because of panic, not because of a lack of understanding. So I'm reviewing for Feb and I just want make sure that my overall testing technique is much more improved (as in getting the lowest hanging coconut on all the sections). I feel that if my technique for taking the test is better, the knowledge I have of in/out games, sequencing games, all the different LR type questions, etc. will be implemented better on test day, and make me feel as confident as I did doing PT's in a library lol.

Thank you in advance

This MBT question really threw me for a loop because of the bi-conditional. In this particular question I think it is the "unique, whenever" that indicates that it is a bi-conditional. I am aware of these 4 indicators from the core curriculum:

-if and/but only if

-...but otherwise

-....except

But since this question didn't utilize any of these,-- I am now wondering if there are any other bi-conditional indicators not listed here? Also, does anyone know of other logical reasoning questions that use bi-conditionals?

Thanks so much!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-82-section-4-question-23/

I have a graduate transcript that only lists an accounting course from September 2015 to December 2015. This is the only graduate course I have taken. Should I include an addendum like the following? I received my B.S. in 2011.

"My graduate educational experience shows I attended xxx from September 2015 to December 2015. I took an accounting course while working full-time to build this skill."

Thank you 7sage Community! I recently learned I got into my top choice school. When I first started studying about a year and some change ago, it really seemed impossible to get to this point. I read posts like this one that I'm writing of people getting into law school and never thought it could be me. 7sage has been extremely helpful and I'm forever grateful for the lessons, BR calls and support from this community. Just wanted to stay that if you are at the start of your studying career and are feeling doubtful, please know I felt the exact same way but just decided to keep going. I know you will do great! Good luck to everyone and congratulations to everyone else who has recently been admitted!

Anyone else get an undergrad degree in something other than philosophy? I know this test doesn't require outside knowledge, but I'm sure knowing some aspects of formal logic definitely helps. Any thoughts on this? If anyone sought outside logic sources, what were some good books you've read?

Happy Saturday everybody!

Is anyone interested in doing a PS swap? We can discuss more details in PM or on the comments, let me know!

Trying to get as many eyes on my PS as possible :D

Hi everyone!

I realized my flashcards are all over the map. I wanted to ask fellow 7sagers: what are you flashcarding?

Thank you!

TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

/N->P

/O->P

/K->P

/N->J

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I took a break to study for the LSAT and I did not do that well on the LSAT so I would rather not say that.

On job applications I just wrote that my part time job conflicted with my school schedule so I had to quit to finish my undergrad on time. I started a new job as soon as I graduated. (my work break was from August - July).

As I finished my undergrad in 4 years, its pretty clear that I was in school full time, so I think it's kind of a given that I wasn't just f*cking around for 11 months and I don't need to explain it? or should I explain just in case?

So I did write the December test but I have already registered to write the Feb one.

RC has been my weakest section and I honestly thought I had it down until I started doing some of the newer PTs.

How would you guys recommend going about this? I was planning on doing one to two passages untimed for the next couple of weeks and then start timing in January. I was fairly decent on doing the earlier RC passages untimed (-3/-5 on a section) . Though, I noticed a drastic change in my score when approaching the 60s and 70s.

What do you guys recommend? What has worked for you?

Hey all,

I got an e-mail from Georgetown requesting a 1-on-1 interview with an alumni. First, is this a good sign? Does it mean I'm being strongly considered or that I'm a "marginal" candidate?

Second, for those of you that have done a Georgetown interview, what should I expect? What questions should I expect them to ask? And how should I prepare?

Thanks,

Paul

Hi everyone, I’m panicking because I didn’t score as well as I was PTing in September. I got a 151, so I also sat for the December exam and feel decent about it. The problem is I am dying to go to the University of Georgia, and all of my former classmates are already getting acceptance letters from there, and I’m straight up PANICKING because I won’t get my score until January, and my GPA is below the median at 3.53. I have much more work and extracurricular experience than my former peers, so I feel like I still have some kind of shot if the December exam went as well as I thought. But I know there are limited spots, and they all had higher scores and GPAs than me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hello all! I can't find that list of suggested tutors. I'm looking for either a Portland, OR based tutor, or an online tutor, who focuses on Logical Reasoning and the hard questions. Thanks for any/all help!