I am unsure where to apply. Here are my stats:

GPA: 3.65

LSAT: 165

Jobs/Internships: ACLU, 3 years at a law firm during college, congressional campaign, Los Angeles Museum of the Holocaust

College: UCLA

Have a great letter of rec from a sitting congressman and a few from professors. Where should I apply?

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Hi everyone!

I was wondering if someone could share their understanding of this question. I was able to eliminate B, D, and E very quickly, but got tied up between A and C and ended up picking C. I can see why A is a good answer, but I'm having a harder time seeing why C is definitively wrong.

To me, the stimulus seems like it's saying that the equipment was not available during the review period. Thus adding the equipment will have no effect. I mean, I guess the stimulus doesn't explicitly say that the absence of equipment caused the result, but it seems sort of implied?

Hi All,

(have asked some of you about this and want to crowdsource to maximize feedback)

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on whether it's a good idea to foolproof LG and drill LR/RC at the same time?

I'm a strong believer in Foolproofing. It definitely works. However, I've read that many people devote 1 - 2 months to exclusively working on Foolproofing during the process. It seems counterintuitive to me to leave LR/RC to the side, especially if one plans to take the test in June.

I'm thinking of FP-ing LG sections in the mornings and taking 1 full timed LR or RC sections plus Blind Review in the evening each day. Obviously, I could also spread out the sections and not religiously stick to 1 per day. Anyway, this is just an idea to make sure I don't lose touch with the other 2 sections while working on Foolproofing

Does anyone have any insight to offer about why I should/shouldn't do this? Or advice for study-schedule planning, methods, etc?

Thanks in advance!

Hey! So I applied to about 14 schools and am still waiting to hear from 13 of them...BUT I just got accepted to a school (not my dream school but still good) with a deposit deadline due April 10 and a scholarship acceptance deadline by April 3. What should I do? I don’t think I’ll get most of my decisions in by those dates at all, since I applied close to the deadline for most of them (took the Feb LSAT)

I know I’m gonna feel like an idiot when this is explained, however, right now I feel like an even bigger idiot because the correct AC (B), is really confusing me. If there is much less methane in Earth’s atmosphere today than there was 3billion years ago, then less greenhouse gas equals less heat trapped, and therefore, cooler climate today than 3billion years ago. This appears to strengthen rather than weaken the argument. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY CONFUSION?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-2-question-25/

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So I'm posting here in part to rant, and in part in hopes that someone on the forum has had a similar situation and can offer some advice.

As you might ascertain from the title, this GoodValue™-Soduko of a section is the bane of my existence at this point. On my diagnostic, I started with a -20+. I had no clue how to solve any of the questions. After studying diagramming and using the 7sage CC, I was able to bring it down to -15 to -10, but I cannot seem to break above that plateau. I've been studying for a little longer than a year now, and I've made significant progress in both RC and LR, but LG just won't budge. This is especially frustrating because almost everyone on the forum says that LG is the easiest area to improve -- it just makes me feel stupid every time I go -15+ on a PT.

For the past month I've been foolproofing games, 6-8 hours a day, but I'm not seeing any progress. I've FP'd all the games from PTs 1-12, 35-40, and 60,61,62. When I foolproof, I do the games until I'm -0 and under time on day 1, then I do the same the next day, and then I wait a week and attempt it again. Only when I can get -0 and under time under all three scenarios do I discard the game. So far I haven't had any problems -- I'm able to remember the inferences and complete the game under timed conditions even after 1 week of not seeing the game.

The problem is, I feel that every single time I take a PT or a timed section, the test writers do something that I've never seen before, and I just don't have the intuition to handle the twist. If they give me an unfamiliar rule, I almost invariably represent it inefficiently and make false inferences, flunking the game. If it's a miscellaneous game, I'll almost invariably set the game board up incorrectly -- tanking the game. For example (Spoiler regarding PT61), on PT61 S3 G1, I didn't realize that the two groups were interchangeable (I had never seen this before) so I didn't split, tried to brute force and went way over time and flunked the game.

At this point, it seems inevitable that I'll choke when it comes to the real exam. This is especially frustrating because of how much time I've spent studying my other sections. I'm currently averaging -1.5 per LR section, -1 per RC section, and -12 per LG section. It took me hundreds of hours of study to get LR and RC to where they are, and it feels as though this damn LG section is just destroying that progress.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and broken out of the rut? I apologize if the post sounds overly negative, but I just feel so defeated by this section. I would appreciate any advice or encouragement that ya'll could give, because I sure need it.

Is there anyway to clear my lesson history so I can completely startover? I think I would really benefit from starting all over and would prefer if my syllabus reflected that!

Totally dropped the ball on both of these. Help?

For Q4: I thought D was totally wrong and I was completely sure of it because I thought to myself, "How could we possibly know what's in the best interest for the military?" I fell for answers A, C (second choice).

For Q21: I had no idea that "some" came into the mix; totally out of left field.I picked A even though I knew it made no sense. It just made the most sense.

Hi All,

I wanted to start a discussion for those who currently live in the SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley. Those who have plans/dreams to attend law school in the SF Bay/Silicon Valley are welcome to join too! #NorCal

I’m curious to see out of those who currently live in the Bay Area, if you plan to attend a local law school or venture on to a new locale. I currently live in the heart of Silicon Valley and will be applying to some of the local law schools, as well as some out of the area/state.

Local Bay Area Schools: Santa Clara Law, Stanford, Berkeley, UC Hastings, Golden Gate, and USF.

Please feel free to share your thoughts. Looking forward to connecting!

I was recently spoke with my 3L friend and he told how skills tested by the Logic Games carry over to law school. He said that law is really a measure of how good you are at puzzles. Can you take a piece of information (the rule), like a puzzle piece, and create a whole picture(your argument) with it in a way that's logical? Have you guys heard something similar in your conversations with law students? Its cool to see that LG, a section that seems so bizarre and unnecessary, is actually very relevant to law school success.

Hello 7sage

I'm writing to try and get a better study schedule going. I'm in post core-curriculum now and I tried setting up a schedule were I'd do a PT every fourth day, but that didnt work because I found myself taking up a lot more time to study my weaknesses. Also I'm currently trying to foolproof the LG's from 1-35 and am having trouble trying to figure out how many times a week I should be doing that versus taking PT's versus studying my weaknesses. Essentially, juggling everything has turned out to be a day by day thing where I have a vague idea of what I'll be working on that day.

A little background. I am currently in grad school, but I actually have a lot of time on my hands. I am only taking two classes on Mondays, so the rest of the week, is pretty much for studying. I'm also currently not working so that helps. I am taking the November LSAT, so I have a little less than 8 months to study. I have been studying since December. So far, I've been averaging 8-5 wrong on LR, 11-5 wrong on RC, and LG, like I said I've just been foolproofing.

I've found that I can study for 5 days a week before mentally burning out. I realize that when I try to study and it feels almost impossible to focus. This is one of those days where I'm feeling mentally blocked so that's why I wanted to reach out to you guys.

So, basically, I'm just trying to find an efficient study schedule I can stick to because I have the time and dedication, I just need to be more organized. Any advise from the kinds of study schedules that has helped you guys, or what you guys recommend would be great.

You guys are awesome,

L

Hey Guys,

This week I am meeting with a friend of mine who is a recent Harvard Law grad! I wanted to poll this community to see if you guys had any specific questions for him. I'll be sure to ask him on your and my behalf!

Thanks :)

I get into work every morning, start up my computer, and then open a tab for LSN, LSL, Reddit Law school admissions, and 7sage. I swear I refresh every page at least 2 dozen times a day....and then check the status checker for the 8 schools I'm waiting to hear back from.

And I get SO frustrated when people who submitted their applications after me, and with lower numbers get in. The silence is killing me slowly (and probably annoying all my friends who are sick about hearing about law school applications).

We rush everything.

I couldn't wait to be done the LSAT, then I couldn't wait to finish applications, and now I just can't wait to move and start school. I feel like my life is in this weird holding place. So I'm reminding myself (and anyone who might need it) to chill the eff out.

This is the last spring/summer before we become law students. The last summer to be (somewhat) carefree. The last time we apply to law school, and can sit here and obsessively talk about a process that has consumed our lives with people online who are essentially strangers. Never in my life did I think I'd be on reddit this often. Old me would make fun of new me.

Enjoy the process. Breath. Stop obsessing over something that will happen.

Hey sagers,

I have finally come to the conclusion that i need some help w/ taking my RC to the next level. I am averaging -5 per section but its prettly volatile and i can get as little as 2 wrong or as many as 8. Who would you suggest as a tutor for RC methods and time management

Came across this profile on LSN today. A person who was a splitter and applied very end of January and decided to wait and re-apply early (September) the next cycle. Says in his comments that he didn't re-write his PS or submit different LORs. Basically, the exact same app.

Granted, every cycle is a bit different and splitter cycles can always be unpredictable. But super interesting to see the results from a late app to an early app, with the exact same materials.

First cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup

Second cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup1

Definitely food for thought for me as I'm contemplating re-applying earlier next year.

Hi all,

After much contemplation, I decided to hold off law school another year and reapply. My UGPA isn't great (~3.35) and my LSAT score definitely needs improvement. Scholarships are the priority, and understand that I'm aiming pretty high. Does anyone have any suggestions/advice about how to approach a retake? I never really finished the full course (skipped around), and I intend to finish it this time. I wanted some ideas on how to set a schedule for PTs/Drills. I plan to retake and reapply in September.

Any insight is appreciated :)

I know school choice should always be based on the individual person's preferences but I just want to hear some other people's perspectives and if possible, any insight on how to choose a school. I've gotten accepted to Catholic U, American U, and Suffolk. Still waiting on Temple U., Chicago-Kent, Syracuse, Albany, and SUNY (Buffalo). And I'm visiting Suffolk next week.

When doing this question I realize the gap between Wisdom of the masses and Artwork. But after becoming impatient I guess and chose E and moved on. I looked over my diagramming and did the question a second time and got D, I noticed that it was a little off and was hoping someone could walk me through this with a diagram, so I can compare it to mine and figure out how B is the right answer?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-4-question-19/

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I recently improved my score from a 154 to a 166 and that is just edging into the good territory for T14s, but I am applying this cycle and decisions are coming very late. I am wondering if I should wait until the next cycle or to continue with a full scholarship at a lower ranked university. I am primarily afraid that I will not have as good of an application given that I will not have great references and lack more stories for a quality personal statement.

Being a Michigan resident, I was really aiming for the University of Michigan, but affordability would be an issue. Any input? I applied to U of M (initially denied, waiting for update), Northwestern, UCLA, Minnesota, UC Irvine, Notre Dame, Indiana - Bloomington, University of Washington (denied), U Colorado - Boulder (waitlisted), Michigan State ($126k), and Wayne State (100% tuition).

(Warning: Spoiler aler... t?)

In an ideal world, each of us would treat each RC passage equally. No passage (type) would be preferred over another; all LSAT candidates from different backgrounds would embrace all passages with same curiosity, eagerness, and love. Reality, alas, proves otherwise. One person might hate a specific passage type because he or she finds its subject matter boring or daunting; another might not like a specific passage because the passage was just too hard; still another might dislike a specific passage because there was that one brutal question that affected his or her performance on the rest of the section, along with many others'.

What the title says. Which RC passage(s) haunts you to this date? I do not like the passages on Roy Lichtenstein (the pop artist who used elements from comic books) and Eileen Gray (the architect who used lacquer). I just don't get art except music, but art passages can be quite interesting - passages on Noguchi (the Japanese American sculptor who created the "negative light" sculpture), Cameron (cheesy photography), Schoenberg (and his three-stage musical development), and perfume ("Perfumes are art too!"), for instance. I did not like those two, however. Especially Eileen Gray.

Is there a PDF or print out with all of the valid argument types togther on one page? Am I just not looking hard enough? Thanks!

Hey all,

This may be a stupid question because I haven't started on practice tests yet (except for my diagnostic) but I'm currently going through logic games in the CC and I was wondering if there's some sort of consistent ratio of hard to easy logic games in the 4 games on the actual test. Is it possible that you'd sit down on test day and get 4 easy games, 4 really hard games, 4 medium games, etc. or do they strive for some sort of even breakdown? Thank you!

Hi everyone! I need some guidance on choosing between the two. I'm from D.C. and when applying to schools, I chose to only apply to schools around the VA/DC/MD area. After receiving all of my offers and narrowing it down to two, I'm still having a hard time deciding. I was admitted to UVA(#9) with no scholarship and George Mason (#41) with a full ride. I would like to stay in the D.C. area, but I am also very open to looking at jobs anywhere in the U.S. post-graduation. My biggest fear is the debt I will go into if I were to go to UVA. Does anyone know if I were to go into BigLaw, how long it would approximately take to pay off $180K in loans? Do you all think it's worth it? I don't know any lawyers or law students who I could ask that wouldn't have a biased opinion. Even with a biased opinion, I would just like to hear some real honest opinions. Thanks for the help!

Getting tired of staring at my lil macbook screen but really don't want to spend $1k++ on an iMac so I figured I could just get a cheap PC desktop and hook it up to my laptop. Refurbished iMacs are just as expensive and I'm scared of getting a used one. I obviously could just google this but I'm seeing vague info online about it.