Hey Everyone,

I was scrolling through the forum and saw a post that gave me an idea that I wanted to inquire about. I scored a 165 on the September LSAT and have a 3.93 LSAC GPA that'll likely go to ~3.96 after this semester of school is over in the beginning of December. I was thinking about applying to the bottom schools of the T14 (UC Berkley, Cornell, UT, UCLA, and Georgetown) with those numbers before the December LSAT (which I am registered for). I still have to get my LOR's from professors but I know who I'm going to ask already & my transcripts are in etc...

I'm hoping that those numbers will get me accepted to at least one of those schools and that I'll get the notifications earlier than if I used my December score. My main worry is the chance that I get outright rejected. If that happens before the December score comes out, would I be able to have my application considered again with a presumably higher LSAT score or would I end up being out of luck? What do you all think?

Thanks a ton everyone, you guys rock.

YAY ME! I so happy right now even though I know it's my BR score.

I have been drilling down on the questions that I have had trouble on for the past couple of days and let's just say it helped tremendously! Honestly, I did take a day off to recharge since I think I was getting really frustrated and tired out from all the LSAT studying. So for everyone who is struggling with only one month away from the December test, I hope this motivates you! While I know this is only one PT... I feel as if I have gotten the fundamentals down. I honestly think I need to focus on timing now.

I basically need a schedule that I can follow to focus on timing strategies before test day.

Any strategies on timing that has worked for y'all? My timed score isn't even close to my BR score but I think I can get it to at least a 162... I have really bad anxiety so when I know I am being timed, I literally can't understand a word :\

What has worked for you guys?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/necessary-assumptions-questions-problem-set-10/?ss_completed_lesson=13888

Answer choice c and d are being problematic. I can reason through c but d is just blocking the doorway and am unable to peer through.

Anyone to the rescue??

Thanks heaps!

Hey everyone!

I will be taking the December LSAT. I'm guessing we will have the scores back by Christmas. Does applying late December (26-30) make a difference compared to early January?

I also had another question. I don't think I will be getting a high score on the LSAT. But the rest of my application is really strong. I will be aiming to the LSAT's 25th percentile in most T14. I've heard that the 25th percentile gets filled up really quick. Does that mean that by January those spots are almost all taken?

Any advise is appreciated!

Hi!

I'm based in Manhattan, and I'm interested in starting a study group for the upcoming February 2018 LSAT starting this week. I would like a group of people who already have a grasp of the fundamentals, but anyone is welcome.

I'm using materials mostly from 7Sage as well as the LSAT Trainer. I welcome supplemental materials, if you'd think it would enhance our LSAT prep.

Please contact me if you are interested, and I'll reply as soon as I can.

Hey 7sagers--

I know some of you are in this boat too: you studied really hard for September, you underperformed, and now your head game is messed up for December. In my case, I scored between 170 and 176 in the last 5 or 6 PT's leading up to the September exam, I didn't burn myself out, and I felt very confident going into the test. But I ended up scoring a 167. My downfall was reading comprehension (-6, yikes), which I think might have mostly been a mental fatigue problem (it was my 4th section and I also had experimental reading, so I think part of me was hoping that the real section was experimental). So now my question is, any tips for getting the mojo back? I'm drilling and studying and trying to get back as being as ready as I was for September, but part of me thinks that the same thing could happen again, and I'm not sure how to fix it. Also, I'm really wary of doing poorly because of lowered confidence-- that would suck! Sooooo yeah any advice?

Hey guys,

I promise i'm normally not an idiot but today I feel like one. One of my schools transcripts just hit LSAC and I'm trying to get an idea of what my LSAC GPA is. The other transcript is just from my dual enrollment years, so it's only two grades. But I can't seem to find out where to find my actual LSAC GPA. Do I need to wait until both transcripts are in for LSAC to calculate?

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone!

So... I am watching the PT 61 LG section while FPing and I am having a little trouble understanding how JY got the contrapostive for R2 (—�) /U in the game. Can someone please clarify? Thank you so much!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-3-game-3/

Is going to a t100 law school like Syracuse or Buffalo for example worth it? I've been told that if you don't kill the LSAT and get into a top ranked school, there's no point. I just keep getting so much mail from schools like Hofstra, etc, that I know are low-ranked schools... just don't know if I should even be considering them if my LSAT score isn't through the roof.

Love Tim Minchin's 9 Life Lessons video that is spreading thru-out social media. For those that have tunnel vision towards Dec test, hope this provides a moment of levity during your prep!

Wishing you all the best in the passionate pursuit of your short-term goals :)

Short version:

Full version:

In all seriousness, I have managed to get good at every LR question except for this one. I am hovering at 70%. I believe my problem is that I have memorized the list of recurring flaws, and after I read the stimulus, if I do not immediately recognize the flaw, my prephrase is screwed. Any advise on getting my flaw questions close to 85-90% would be greatly appreciated.

I attended the San Francisco LSAC Forum yesterday with a lot of questions regarding my status as a splitter. It was EXTREMELY helpful to talk to the school directly and to ask them how to approach my situation. It gave me both a boost in confidence, and a strategy for each individual school.

Each school repeated the typical "we have a holistic approach" mantra but then followed it up with some advice on how to show them you are a different candidate than your record might suggest.

A couple of examples;

U.C. Irvine - While they have to consider grades, they will break it down by year and history. For example; I had bad grades in 2008-2010. This was almost a decade ago, and since then I have considerable experience in the military and work force as well as a 4.0 form my undergrad college. They will draw a red line on my application to note this distinct change. Their suggestion? SEND MORE LETTERS OF REC. For someone like me, with work experience, he said it would be invaluable to receive 3-4 letters of recommendation. One from each aspect of my life (work/school/military) in order to show work ethic and to show I'm not the person I use to be. I wouldn't have known to do something like this without attending the LSAC Forum.

University of Virginia - Told me to focus on my work experience. The grades were so long ago that if I focus my application on work experience they would probably get a better idea of who I am today. This will help them to "excuse" my past discrepancies because they can see a notable change in who I am. She even gave me her contact info to reach out to her if I have more questions about this. They said while my LSAT is low (163) to submit the application, retake the LSAT, and then have them look everything over. She said I sounded like an interesting candidate and wishes all the best for me.

I am SUPER pumped to go to law school after talking to the 10 or so schools at the LSAC forum. It really helped to break down the wall between me and these schools. It helped me to understand that these people are humans, and they won't devalue you for past mistakes, if you give them a good reason to value you now.

Please, do yourself a favor if you are a splitter, and try to get to one of these forums!!!

I just finished writing my personal statement. While it is about an event that changed my life, and the way I see hard situations, I feel like I was not able to communicate that through the story. There are too many details that I feel need to be included, which leaves me with no room for "what I learned" type stuff.

Is anyone either willing to read my PS and help me incorporate that stuff, or have suggestions on how to give details of the event while saying I learned XYZ?

Basically I want to convey the messages of;

I've learned that you shouldn't judge people by their actions alone

I learned to deal with stressful situations in constructive ways

I learned the value of working with other people and relying on others

Edit: It is also a very rough draft still and a bit too long in its current state.

Does anyone have a decent indicator of how much your everything else factors into your apps? I'd have a 3.64 gpa after this semester, with some experiences like campaigns, interning for a district court judge for four months recently, being an Eagle Scout, other Scouting experiences (16 years now), and chairing/leading a strong nonprofit in my community for almost a year

What are some questions that you find infuriating? I will occasionally come across an LR question during BR that's just straight up maddening. I've recently experienced this with question 56.3.21. It just pissed me off. What the hell, man! I realize this is due to confusion or an initial misreading of the stimulus. I find the more subtle LR questions the most anger-inducing. I will usually take that as an indication that I need a break. Anyway, don't hate what you don't understand. What about y'all? Which LSAT questions do you find the most frustrating?

Took GRE cold and score 164V/168Q. Have a below median LSAT for harvard.

Even tho each a few points below close to perfect scores in GRE sections, the percentiles are only 90-95% for these sections.

Is this 164V/168Q gre strengthens or weakens 170 LSAT score for harvard? Should one retake this GRE?

I could not find anything to prove the conclusion > few people understand current events> and did not see the flaw the LSAT makers identified.

Here's is what I did:

Tried to create conditional statements but did not understand how to represent Appreciation of Significance.

TV --> DI and DOC

Newspaper --> DI and DOC

Fully understand current events ---> DI + Appreciation of Significance

Since > few people who seek out news sources other than newspapers and TV> was a premise I took it to be true. The conclusion jumped and inferred > few people ever understand current events>. There was nothing sufficient to prove the conclusion. Wasn't that the flaw?

Tried pushing forward to say that those other people must have been the few, but it still got me nowhere.

What all did I miss? Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-19/

Hello all,

I just wanted to see how everyone ‘studies’ and see if I’m on the ‘right track’. I’m going through the CC for the first time. How do you approach the problem sets? The lessons? Explanations? For example, even though I know why a certain answer is right I watch JY’s explanation to see what I might have overlooked or didn’t think of.

So its me again...

I am really struggling with LR, especially necessary assumption questions and flaw questions even though in my head it feels like I completely understand flaw.

So I want to get a 163+. My BR has been at a 160 so I really just need to increase by 3 more.

The following are my BR scores for those who have missed my last post.

Should I just focus on perfecting LG and RC?

LR -7/-8

LG - 2/-3

RC -5/-6

I mean, I really should start focusing on timing now with only a month left..

I will write the February test if I don't score as high but some Canadian schools only look at the December test so I kind of have to do decent on this test.

Most schools take the highest right? And you can apply with an average December score with intent to take february and get a better one...? How do you let them know you anticipate another LSAT score coming in before them judging you on the one they have, if it's not sufficient to get in? I just want to make sure I go about it properly. Thanks!

I have a really bad habit of whispering the passages aloud to myself and talking to myself while I work through the problems :( Maybe I have ADD or something and saying things aloud helps me to focus, idk?? Obviously, I won't be able to do this on test day. Any advice from people who have the same problem and how to overcome this?

Hey everyone. So recently I have been thinking considering what it means to get really good at fundamentals and how you know when you have achieved exceptional fluency in fundamentals skills. I have always been the type of person to push ahead and not look back, but in the LSAT review is a hugely important factor. I came across a link that 7sager @LetsHigh5 made. It includes things like LR strategies by question type, RC strategies, LG and LR stimuli indicators and a ton of other incredibly useful things to memorize. I think that having these things memorized and understood will definitely give you a leg up on your fundamentals. All credit for making this should go to LetsHigh5. total boss move. This should be used an addition to CC review to beef up your fundamentals.

https://quizlet.com/LetsHigh5/folders/lsat-info-strategy-stack/sets

Instead of giving me the test center I requested for December, which is only 15 minutes away and which I requested well before the deadline, LSAC decided to give me a testing center that is an hour away - without traffic!

I emailed LSAC, but I've gotten no response. The test center change deadline is Tuesday... Am I just screwed or is there something I can do?

Hi 7sage community!

It's the night before the Los Angeles LSAC Forum and I'm a bit nervous. Have any of you attended these forums before? I'm what I hope to be a splitter (low gpa, high lsat), so I assume the networking might come in handy.

I'm just not sure what to even ask them, though. When you approach the table, do you introduce yourself and briefly talk about yourself? Do you jump right into questions?

Do you have any ideas for questions, aside from ones geared toward the school's programs?

Let me know. Thanks, so much.

My school's online portal has an option to place a transcript order but I'm worried about whether I need to include the Transcript Request Form. The note below states that "e-transcripts sent to LSAC do not require special handling" so I'm assuming that I do not need to include the Transcript Request Form.

Has anyone gone through this before? I called my school's registrar office to confirm that they use one of LSAC's approved electronic transcript transfer sources but I would feel better if another student confirmed this for me.

"For transcript requests with special handling instructions or that require attachments (e.g., PharmCas, NSF, etc.), do not proceed with this request. Instead, use the paper Order Request Form to order a UCLA transcript and submit in person or by mail with your attachment. Note: e-Transcripts sent to AMCAS and LSAC do not require special handling."