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Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... choosing to apply the group 3 indicator rule (negate sufficient) and ... group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group 4 indicator ... as group ... -
When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ... you use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how ... -
Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm ... 't think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea ... and make it the sufficient indicator. I'm going through the ... -
"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
... several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies that you ... would call "either/or") with Group 3 and says you just have ... -
How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
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Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize ... intuitive sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering ... just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all times ... audience."
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Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming ... no punishment without law. The group 3 operator is without I picked ... -
"Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
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"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
... the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel like ... -
"Is" group 2 indicator?Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y JY seems to treat it as such in 60.1.17
Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y
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Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... after being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I ... following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... was:
All: group 1, sufficient
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Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
... /> 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3
2. “not both” gives ... you group 4.
3. “either or but not ... both” gives you the bi-conditional group ... a sentence, do we follow Group 3 rules? How would we write ... -
BiconditionalsPerhaps I missed something as I do not remember a lesson on biconditionals (double arrows). My understanding is that each term is both sufficient…
... 've categorized "except" as a group 3 indicator, so that is causing issues ... -
Different uses for orHi guys, Im wondering if I have the concept of "or" down. So first it can be used as a group 3 indicator to split the sentence into a conditional sta…
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Group 3 indicator QuizI figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. …
I figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. The first is about question one which is A person is not guilty of an offense unless his liability is based ... -
'Even without''even without' does not seem to follow our group 3 indicator rules.... Ella can pass even without giving her presentation Using Group 3 rules I…
... not seem to follow our group 3 indicator rules....
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Using Group 3 rules I came up with ... /> very diff to mechanically following group 3 rules....
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Translations with cannot and without.I am having difficulty translating statements with both cannot and without. For example: A business cannot change its core corporate philosophy wi…
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... a group 3 indicator word (without) and a group 4 indicator word ... corporation.
Group 4 Translation: Cannot
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HELP! Conditional Rules: Contrapositive InferenceMost contrapositives makes sense to me except in the case of a negative condition, and positive reaction. Can someone help me understand this exa…
... /> Classic either/or rule (or group 3 indicator) rule.
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Lesson 28 of 40 Introduction to logic , @ 2 minutes 28 sec to 2 minutes 34 secWhen JY is explaining not ( group 4 Logical operator) he does not apply the not to the come home idea. i understand its function as a logical operato…
... breaking down when both group 3 and group 4 logical indicators appear ... he uses "until" as the group 3 indicator and "not" as the negation ... uses "not" as the group 4 indicator and "until" as the ... use "until" as the logical indicator and use "not" as ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... logic and so the group 3 and group 4 words hold a ... own understanding of the group 3 and group 4 words, as Jonathon ... sentences where the group 3 indicator appears before the group 4 indicator. My final ... on the combination of group 3 and group 4 indicators in one ... -
PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttps://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ Here is my conditional reasoning: teachers are effective ------> when they hel…
... --> ES) - applied the group 3 indicator
3: NOT(TP or ES) - switched ... -
Group 3 indicator QuizI figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. …
@"Spencer D" said:
I decided to take the first idea (not guilty), negate it, and make it my sufficient condition. So I have G---->UD/. This translates to english as "a person is guilty of a crime if they were not under duress". The ... -
Help with a simple translationI'm working on translations to help with my SA understanding and am using the "find the missing link" exercises by taking the logic and translating t…
... sure if "not" is a group 3 indicator tho. The most common ones ... we see/use within group 3 is unless, until, without, and ... "none" then it should be group 4 negate necessary. But I ... -
Translating a sentence with 2 group 4 indicatorsI have been trying to master my lawgic to English translations and need some help here. Working on: /F --> /E I want to say: No friendly person…
... /> Hey so "without" is a group 3 indicator word, so this should read ... -
Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
... **, but you are adding the group 3 indicator back in after translating the ... , just don't carry the group three indicator with it.
