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"Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
... not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes ... see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the ... : "I go to the store, except on Monday." It seems that ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... both a group 3 and group 4 indicator.
The 7Sage group 3 indicators ... group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group ... the director (D). (treating except as group 3 here)
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When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same ... you use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how ... -
Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
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Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm ... 't think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea ... -
Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
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Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize ... intuitive sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering ... just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all times ... audience."
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Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming ... no punishment without law. The group 3 operator is without I picked ... -
"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
... the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel like ... -
"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
... would call "either/or") with Group 3 and says you just have ... -
Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... after being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I ... following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... was:
All: group 1, sufficient
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unless: group 3, negate sufficient
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Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
... /> 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3
2. “not both” gives ... you group 4.
3. “either or but not ... both” gives you the bi-conditional group ... a sentence, do we follow Group 3 rules? How would we write ... -
Conditional Indicator "Except"I have been trying to stick to the group 1-4 method. Previously, if I read "except" I would make what follows the necessary condition and then simply…
... to the group 1-4 method. Previously, if I read "except" I ... example, "Mark goes to school except on Sunday" would be / ... is do you guys categorize "except" in group 3? Negate the sufficient? What ... Sunday." I would again, choose except as the indicator, make what ... -
The use of "unless" Group 3 and "cannot" Group 4 combined translation in a Sequencing LGHey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other grou…
... player via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the conditional ... I took PT 87 Game # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)
Except: Negate Sufficient or BiconditionalIs the term "except" indicative of a biconditional or a group 3 conditional? I believe 7Sage says biconditional, but I have heard some say it is the …
Is the term "except" indicative of a biconditional or a group 3 conditional? I believe 7Sage says biconditional, but I have heard some say it is the same as 'unless' (group 3).BiconditionalsPerhaps I missed something as I do not remember a lesson on biconditionals (double arrows). My understanding is that each term is both sufficient…
... B, otherwise not
Except A, B
except" and "otherwise" in a video ... past I've categorized "except" as a group 3 indicator, so that is ...Is it worth it to purchase PT C2?I have taken lot of PTs old and new and have all of the recent PTs except for C2 (the previously undisclosed test in Superprep 2). I do not want to l…
... all of the recent PTs except for C2 (the previously undisclosed ... Superprep 2) seems silly unless (group 3 negate sufficient) there is a ...If you see two Group 4 Logical Indicators in one sentenceHey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary? Doe…
... advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one ... as when you see both group 3 and group 4 indicators in one ... /> Example- If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not ... (not - group 4) a Koala Bear-
From my experience: The Four Pillars of LG ConsistencyI started studying for the LSAT barely able to answer a single question on games. With no training in logic, I essentially had to start from the gro…
... So if rules 1 and 3 both mention piece "A" ... group. It is the same thing stated in a different way, except ... be in the volleyball group.
3. **_Knowing The Questions_** ... . What is a CBT EXCEPT? What is a MBT? ... be looking for 2-3 steps away most of ...LR Study Guides ThreadI was wondering if we could upload our study guides in this post for those taking the June and upcoming LSATs can always come back to this.
... Chinese are languages.
• Except where as those are natural ...
BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 2 Lesson 19 of 40 ... MUST
BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 3 Lesson 22 of 40
BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 4 Lesson 27 of 40 ...PT21.S2.Q03 - a new medication for migraineI find abstract FL AC's to be quite a hassle on the LSAT. Usually I POE it down to one answer, which feels right, but I don't work through the FL if …
... will take the new medication except under careful medical supervision"
group 3 negate sufficient indicator. I did ...Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
... a straight forward application of Group 3 indicators.
**Without** physical ... be helpful to think of group 3 indicators as identifying a necessary ... to consider the until, unless, except type indicators as identifying a ...could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... a case of 'except' being used as a group 3 indicator and wanted ... could be added to that group as a rule (now I ...Conditional Indicator "Except"I have been trying to stick to the group 1-4 method. Previously, if I read "except" I would make what follows the necessary condition and then simply…
... would be best to drill "except" into your brain via flashcards ... sense to put it as group 3. Drill that bad boy into ... like the rest of the group 3 indicators.Except in conditional statementsWould like to know about Except JY....another word that gets me stuck quite frequently...
A except B
/B—>A
You could also say, A will happen unless B occurs.that makes it group 3 negate sufficient."Until" as a logical indicatorHi all, I'm not through the CC yet (obviously). When learning logical indicators, I'm trying to reason my way through them, because I know I will fo…
... in [Group 3](https://7sage.com/lesson/basic-translation-group-3/) when ... of a "strong" until and except.
In particular ... on an "until" or "except" creating a biconditional, which ... biconditional aspect of until/except may stem from surrounding ...
