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Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... , but after being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I sought out ... came up with the following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based ... -->H
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Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
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Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize ... to just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all ... audience."
With the Group 3 rule, one would diagram as ... if I just stick with the Group 3 rule for every ... -
When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ... you use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how do ... -
Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... a group 3 and group 4 indicator.
The 7Sage group 3 ... with both group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group 4 ... indicator as group ... -
Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
... rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states ... counter-positive. I keep seeing 4 possible outcomes. Here's what ... /> Any suggestions for someone struggling with the required intuition to crack ... -
How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, ... t think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick ... 't match or make sense with original statement.
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Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive ... no punishment without law. The group 3 operator is without I picked ... them. The flash card showed with P -> L first. I ... there may be something wrong with the way I was reading ... -
Going -3 and -4 per LR section untimedHi guys, I recently noticed that I continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR section either untimed or timed and BR'ed. These questions tend to be 4 and…
... I continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR section ... These questions tend to be 4 and 5 star questions. ... slacking off on being explicit with what the assumptions used ... I am still getting -3 and -4 wrong on each LR section ... back to timed LR sections with BR at the end, ... -
"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
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PT30.S3.P3: Meyerson and CLS, Paragraphs 3 and 4Hi, could someone who understands this passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY's explanation video for this passage zoomed throug…
... this passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY's explanation ... and Paragraph 3 gets at one of her main issues with a ... .com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-3-passage-3-passage/ -
When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
... ” gives you group 3
2. “not both” gives you group 4.
3. “either ... or but not both” gives you the bi-conditional group ... a sentence, do we follow Group 3 rules? How would we write ... -
Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
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Kaplan vs 7sage logical indicators approachI started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of the Kaplan logical reasoning approach and, honestly, there were still some pretty gaping hol…
I started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of ... gaping holes in my comfort with logical reasoning translation. At first ... for me to translate the group 3 and 4 words so mechanically.
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"Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
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"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... common structure of
Group 4 X Group 3 Y
I would ... it is associated with. The group 3 and 4 rules are the ...
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... that now memorizing "converting" Group 3 and Group 4 indicators to another type ... rule it is associated with. The group 3 and 4 rules are the ... arrows. "Without" is a group 3 word because it literally means ... and "only if" is a group 2 word because it literally ... -
Sufficient Assumption QuestionsAny advice for breaking down SA questions into valid argument forms like JY does in the videos? The more questions I see, the more challenging it is …
... is not the logic. With the valid argument forms in ... negations (especially in terms of group 3 and 4 indicators). So my advice ... for that link.
With prephrasing, know the contrapositive of ... hide an obvious answer choice with a flip and a negation ... -
Posting on Behalf of a 7Sage User: I have a question that I am confused about something.**[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user:]** If there is a sentence that has words from 2 different groups in lawgic, for example, Beth Cannot (g…
... would just translate it using group 3, with the word "without." ... cannot go), so using group 3 translation, I would just ... a lot of LR questions with group 3/4 translations combined. Your example ... I automatically translate it using group 3, making it ( A --> ... -
Are these lawgic translations correct?#1 A cannot B without C. Translation: AB --> C /C --> /AB #2 A without B cannot C. Translation: /AB --> /C C --> AB I'm curiou…
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PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttp://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ I'm having trouble translating the "not until" statement. Until is "negate suffici…
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I feel like it's all starting to crumble!Hey, guys! Has anyone ever felt like everything is starting to crumble for them? LG has always been my best section but now I can go -6! I get life a…
... to clarify a rule using group 3 and 4 indicators, smh. Thats 101 ... -
having NOT and UNLESS in the same sentenceHey Guys, I always get confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D. So, we have /pub…
... confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT ... 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D ... -
1st PT Post-CC: 160, 178 BR advice/next steps?I just finished BR for my 1st PT Post-CC, scores below (planning on taking the September 2018 test): Raw Score: 160, BR: 178 LG: -9, -0 LR: -10,…
... excited about the 160, because with this being my first timed ... . I literally got so flustered with my first section (LG - which ... I was most confident with heading in) that I couldn ... missed were of different types, 3 with 4 or 5 star difficulty). OR ... -
When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... unless Kate goes.
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Translating a sentence with 2 group 4 indicatorsI have been trying to master my lawgic to English translations and need some help here. Working on: /F --> /E I want to say: No friendly person…
... (Group 3) being exciting, you cannot (Group 4) be friendly."
Using Group 3 translation ... : /E -->/F
Using Group 4 translation: /E ... --> F when I use group 3 or 4
