The shorter, more to-the-point lessons feel a lot better to absorb and follow; like, the max should be between 5 to 10 minutes instead of the 16-plus minutes, which overexplains and then overcomplicates our understanding.
@goldilocks@goldilocks Same. That’s why I almost chose the answer about the largest stones at the site. It’s only a level 2 question but I had to read the answer choices 4-5 times just because I was getting hung up on the weight of the rocks and ignoring everything about the boats themselves. Easily got rid of C because that’s entirely unimportant and also easily E because again, doesn’t matter. But that weight dissimilarity almost caught me. I was so convinced that the weight was going to be the issue. After rereading the stimulus again and trying to picture the example, I realized that they’re talking about traditional boats versus prehistoric boats and that that is ALSO a major issue. I didn’t choose the largest rocks answer only because I couldn’t see how best to tie it in with the support when answer A was blatantly something that was wrong.
The way I came to selecting "A" as the correct answer was this - the stem talks about the "archaeologist's hypothesis" and in the stimulus, the hypothesis is "that archaeologists hypothesize that the stones were brought to Tiwanaku by reed boats" and instantly I after reading through all the options, i felt that "A" applied to this situation that the Archaeologists hypothesized.... is this a good way of thinking through/understanding this?
@maryamvardehan Yeah I also got caught on that. that's a huge dissimilarity but that wasn't an option available. I think this is an example of a right answer not being the ideal answer
@maryamvardehan I noticed it too but I focused more on the "up to 40 tons." This could mean anything, the average stone could have weighed significantly less, possibly around 9 tons.
I think the reason so many of us are frustrated is because of the way the curriculum is designed, at least this specific lesson. You teach us new rules/strategies to go by, at which point we try to really focus on understanding them and embed our heads with it, but you do it without allowing us to feel like we understood them correctly. You do the opposite and give us an outlier question to review almost immediately. We’re not there yet. Not even close. We need more examples to which we can answer with confidence and feel like we can correctly apply the rules you’ve taught us at the appropriate times. Only then can we recognize the outlier questions and realize that we can’t apply the same rules there. You teach a new rule, here for the analogy questions, I try to learn them correctly and try to apply it in the first “Try Yourself” and then next I get it wrong even though I thought I learned your lesson correctly. It’s almost like you’re contradicting your own lessons and we are left feeling like none of these lessons are reliable, even though we spent so much time trying to understand these lessons.
A useful tip for evaluate questions, read each answer choice after reading the stimulus and ask yourself "could this strengthen or weaken the argument?" if that answer is no, it's wrong. I get these evaluate questions correct in less than a minute using this technique.
UGH I got it right at first but overthought my answer in the blind review. I thought that because the stimulus mentioned that the experimenters used techniques that were traditional to the area, that this implied that such techniques have been around for a while, thereby making answer choice A sound redundant.
@kennylang123 I was confused about this at first, until I thought about Sumo wrestling in Japan. It is a traditional sport, but has only existed for about 400 years. Because the stimulus is about prehistoric times there is potential for a tradition to have been created at some time in the past that was still more recent than the building of Tiwanaku.
I got it correct, but felt only 60% confidence. E was the other contender. I would of liked to see an answer that said, whether or not the reed boat can move a 40 ton stone.
I also got it right and I felt confident about it being the best answer, but I was SO hung up on the fact that they only tested a 9 ton stone that it took me 2 minutes. I kept looking at the answers like "where's the answer about whether the boats can carry more weight" as if that would make it appear as choice F
I. Hate. This. -_- I know this test isn't easy but it has been really messing with my confidence lately. I understand why I get an answer choice wrong when I watch the videos and then I continue to next set of questions with the explanations in mind and still get answers wrong! Any advice? SOMEBODY HELP!
The same thing happened to me, and it really made me question taking this entire test BUT it really is part of the process. The more you do problems the more all those explanations and strategies that you think you aren't understanding right now become second nature to you!
I will say what really helped me is when I get the answer wrong on a drill, open the question up again, and see if you can get the right answer yourself before watching the explanation right away (don't look at what the right answer is obviously lol). Sometimes just knowing you got a question wrong is enough of a wake up call to see the ACs in a different way!
You got this. Make sure sure you blind review and take your time to understand why the correct answer is correct and why all 4 incorrect answers are incorrect. Keep going!
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Ok but how did they get the 40 ton ones down there?
Took a diagnostic test and timing is a HUGE issue for me.. how anyone completes all questions on time is beyond me
The shorter, more to-the-point lessons feel a lot better to absorb and follow; like, the max should be between 5 to 10 minutes instead of the 16-plus minutes, which overexplains and then overcomplicates our understanding.
Party at the beach down in Copacabana
Nice! still over the time limit but hopefully that will get better?
Got it right and under time!
YAYAYA got it right :)
lately i've been the Wizard of these questions
"Andacite" is not spelled correctly, its andesite as in the Andes mountains which is where these historic sites reside. LSAC pls fix.
My first time under time!
Now the song is stuck in my head.
I got it right, but I was 55 seconds past the suggested time.
I got so caught up in the fact that they tried to compare a 40-ton stone with a 9-ton stone, and I tried to find an answer that points it out. Sigh
@goldilocks @goldilocks Same. That’s why I almost chose the answer about the largest stones at the site. It’s only a level 2 question but I had to read the answer choices 4-5 times just because I was getting hung up on the weight of the rocks and ignoring everything about the boats themselves. Easily got rid of C because that’s entirely unimportant and also easily E because again, doesn’t matter. But that weight dissimilarity almost caught me. I was so convinced that the weight was going to be the issue. After rereading the stimulus again and trying to picture the example, I realized that they’re talking about traditional boats versus prehistoric boats and that that is ALSO a major issue. I didn’t choose the largest rocks answer only because I couldn’t see how best to tie it in with the support when answer A was blatantly something that was wrong.
The way I came to selecting "A" as the correct answer was this - the stem talks about the "archaeologist's hypothesis" and in the stimulus, the hypothesis is "that archaeologists hypothesize that the stones were brought to Tiwanaku by reed boats" and instantly I after reading through all the options, i felt that "A" applied to this situation that the Archaeologists hypothesized.... is this a good way of thinking through/understanding this?
How are you going to compare 40 tons with 9 tons
@maryamvardehan Yeah I also got caught on that. that's a huge dissimilarity but that wasn't an option available. I think this is an example of a right answer not being the ideal answer
@maryamvardehan I noticed it too but I focused more on the "up to 40 tons." This could mean anything, the average stone could have weighed significantly less, possibly around 9 tons.
I think the reason so many of us are frustrated is because of the way the curriculum is designed, at least this specific lesson. You teach us new rules/strategies to go by, at which point we try to really focus on understanding them and embed our heads with it, but you do it without allowing us to feel like we understood them correctly. You do the opposite and give us an outlier question to review almost immediately. We’re not there yet. Not even close. We need more examples to which we can answer with confidence and feel like we can correctly apply the rules you’ve taught us at the appropriate times. Only then can we recognize the outlier questions and realize that we can’t apply the same rules there. You teach a new rule, here for the analogy questions, I try to learn them correctly and try to apply it in the first “Try Yourself” and then next I get it wrong even though I thought I learned your lesson correctly. It’s almost like you’re contradicting your own lessons and we are left feeling like none of these lessons are reliable, even though we spent so much time trying to understand these lessons.
A useful tip for evaluate questions, read each answer choice after reading the stimulus and ask yourself "could this strengthen or weaken the argument?" if that answer is no, it's wrong. I get these evaluate questions correct in less than a minute using this technique.
@sabrinaherrera167 i like this strategy!!
UGH I got it right at first but overthought my answer in the blind review. I thought that because the stimulus mentioned that the experimenters used techniques that were traditional to the area, that this implied that such techniques have been around for a while, thereby making answer choice A sound redundant.
Yeah this question/answer was BS, 'traditional' implies that the technique has been around for a while.
@kennylang123 I was confused about this at first, until I thought about Sumo wrestling in Japan. It is a traditional sport, but has only existed for about 400 years. Because the stimulus is about prehistoric times there is potential for a tradition to have been created at some time in the past that was still more recent than the building of Tiwanaku.
Looked up what a reed boat was. Not disappointed
best comment of the week award
legit laughing at my desk thank you for this
Internal thoughts and why I exceed target times:
Quarried? Is that the same as carried? Does it matter? #Move on
90 Km, Ugh LSAT, the U.S. doesn't really use kilometers. How far is that in miles?
Doesn't matter- it's across the lake. #Focus
Ok, let me reread it again.
I only know what a quarry is from playing strategy video games by sending my subjects to collect stones. LOOOOL
I got it correct, but felt only 60% confidence. E was the other contender. I would of liked to see an answer that said, whether or not the reed boat can move a 40 ton stone.
I also got it right and I felt confident about it being the best answer, but I was SO hung up on the fact that they only tested a 9 ton stone that it took me 2 minutes. I kept looking at the answers like "where's the answer about whether the boats can carry more weight" as if that would make it appear as choice F
SAME.
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I thought E was the correct answer because I assumed the argument revolved around the durability to transport the stone or not.
I remembered this question from the KhanAcademy lesson w/ the trouble it gave me and and still got it dead wrong LOL
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I. Hate. This. -_- I know this test isn't easy but it has been really messing with my confidence lately. I understand why I get an answer choice wrong when I watch the videos and then I continue to next set of questions with the explanations in mind and still get answers wrong! Any advice? SOMEBODY HELP!
The same thing happened to me, and it really made me question taking this entire test BUT it really is part of the process. The more you do problems the more all those explanations and strategies that you think you aren't understanding right now become second nature to you!
I will say what really helped me is when I get the answer wrong on a drill, open the question up again, and see if you can get the right answer yourself before watching the explanation right away (don't look at what the right answer is obviously lol). Sometimes just knowing you got a question wrong is enough of a wake up call to see the ACs in a different way!
go over grammar again that's the most important
"Sometimes just knowing you got a question wrong is enough of a wake up call to see the ACs in a different way!"
^ 100% this
The evaluate questions are gonna be the death of me. I cant figure them outtt
the comforting part about it is that evaluate qs are SUUUUUPER rare at least lol
You got this. Make sure sure you blind review and take your time to understand why the correct answer is correct and why all 4 incorrect answers are incorrect. Keep going!
Yeah S/W/E are my worst question types and I literally cannot figure them out for the life of me.
Absolutely!