I'm always torn when I see the correct answer right away. I knew A was correct and Choose to Submit Immediately without looking at the others ti save time but i worry I will mess up on some of these
@DonovanReynolds Good instincts. I think while you're not doing PTs, there's no harm in viewing all of the answers so you can parse what's going on.
I only say this because we're in a learning environment; if you got it wrong when hitting the first answer that looks right to you, the only thing you'll learn is to be more thorough... Where as if you read them all, you may stumble upon two answers that are persuasive and you get to exercise that part of your brain which compares answers in the LSAT. You could exercise that part of your brain with your method, but it may be less effective when you know you've already gotten one answer incorrect.
For me, thinking of these questions in the "bridge the premise to the conclusion" framework makes it feel a bit like an RRE question. Imagine both sentences in the stimulus were just two statements of facts instead of an argument, and the question asks something like "Which of the following, if true, would best explain the two phenomena?" Well, if answer choice A is true, that would "explain" the phenomena, as it links them together.
I truly have been struggling since WSE now this. Feeling a bit depleted and after trying question after question getting them wrong, not really sure how to switch my approach or understanding. Any advice?
@Tswizzle25 No, literally in the same boat. I have probably gotten one answer right a day when going through this module. And every time I think I got it and feel confident, I get it wrong
@KendallFrancis05 I hear you. You're not alone! Keep pushing and drilling (what im trying to tell myself). Had to just go to sleep and wake up try again haha
@Tswizzle25 What helps me with these questions is to talk everything outloud. Humanizing the stimulus makes it more relatable for me to understand and pick the correct answer!
How do we know if an answer choice is the best without reading through all the answers? I recognized immediately that A was a great choice, but nonetheless felt compelled to read through the rest of the answers to be safe.
I am also thrown a bit on how to distinguish between which answer "best" supports or refutes an argument, with multiple competing choices.
Chose D, I think I (stupidly) equated for "some" and "most cases" to be the same/similar enough. Then, in the conclusion I understood it to mean that the level of harm is what is being considered. I understood D to mean the same thing - as in, D also says that since both have the same level of harm, they have the same mandate.
whenever I do the "you try" section I do very well. Most of the time I get it right. but when I go to drilling I can' get more than 2/5. why do you think that is? should I just quit now?
Are you trying to rush when doing drills? What difficulty are the drills? Are you reviewing your wrong answers when drilling and finding patterns in your wrong answers? Maybe go down to easy drills until you get the basics down and then gradually increase difficulty. Also, don't worry about time at all until you have a better comprehension.
Do not get discouraged! Keep practicing. One day at a time things will improve. You can do this :)
I really do think the time constraint is what prevents you from getting more correct so start with drills with unlimited time and then slowly set it out to the target time
Don't quit, but the drills are usually harder than the ones he gives us. The ones he gives us are supposed to teach a lesson in my eyes, whereas the drills are to test the lessons we've learned. Personally, I've switched to putting more priority on the end of section drills and additional drilling, because on those you can test yourself better with harder questions that he really isn't giving us very often.
I have gotten the last few wrong when the answers are seemingly answered in the text because of previous lessons. I am confused where the line is between redundant and strengthening. Any help?
what tips does anyone have when trying to study if you feel like you cannot focus on what your am reading. I was taking a prep test today and had to reread questions over and over again till I just took a break and now I am working on these types of questions to still continue learning
I've had this same issue. I fixed it by wearing earplugs or noise-canceling headphones while taking PTs to help me focus better. I've also found that quietly reading the stimulus/questions helps me better understand what I'm reading. If this doesn't help it may just be that you need to further your understanding of the core curriculum and continue to get used to how the LSAT is worded!
I am dealing with the same problem, and one day I was literally complaining that I might have a learning disability and messaged my doctors LOL. What is helping me is that I started to read a book during my train ride to work (1.25hr commute one way) to help condition my mind to focus on reading.
i read a comment that said "read an LR stem as if its a juicy piece of gossip that you've been dying to know about" and it actually does work. I find with LR and RC, pretending to be super interested in what the author is saying helps you actually stay focused.
stimulus didnt state the rule, it would be an instance of them applying it. That why its the right answer choice, if it wasnt the case that harm is proportional to the penalty, the reasoning for leveling the charge could be made another way, a way that contradicts the stimulus, something that a weakening question might ask to do.
I picked D because it gave a reason showing why his conclusion is strengthened. This confuses me because I feel like in the other strengthening questions this would have been correct. But in applying rule application it is incorrect. How do we know when it is looking for the two different types of answers? please help
I was gonna chose A initially but I felt that C was more supportive and the fact that A said in general just made me feel like the wording was not that convincing. Just be falling for these LSAT traps.
#Help, in the answer choices, it uses phrases such as "in most cases", "generally" and "Often." Do these words all mean the same when discussing sufficient conditions?
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I got it right, and then changed at the last minute and double-downed. Im so good at getting it down to two choices, and picking the incorrect one.
You're not alone!
I'm always torn when I see the correct answer right away. I knew A was correct and Choose to Submit Immediately without looking at the others ti save time but i worry I will mess up on some of these
@DonovanReynolds Good instincts. I think while you're not doing PTs, there's no harm in viewing all of the answers so you can parse what's going on.
I only say this because we're in a learning environment; if you got it wrong when hitting the first answer that looks right to you, the only thing you'll learn is to be more thorough... Where as if you read them all, you may stumble upon two answers that are persuasive and you get to exercise that part of your brain which compares answers in the LSAT. You could exercise that part of your brain with your method, but it may be less effective when you know you've already gotten one answer incorrect.
im cooked
real
omg I changed it at the last second and originally had it correct.
me tooooo!!!! omg
For me, thinking of these questions in the "bridge the premise to the conclusion" framework makes it feel a bit like an RRE question. Imagine both sentences in the stimulus were just two statements of facts instead of an argument, and the question asks something like "Which of the following, if true, would best explain the two phenomena?" Well, if answer choice A is true, that would "explain" the phenomena, as it links them together.
Not sure if this necessarily helps in assessing the argument... but it makes all the logic feel a bit more connected in my mind.
I spent so long on this because A seemed too easy...
@quietcoyote an extra 50sec 😭
I truly have been struggling since WSE now this. Feeling a bit depleted and after trying question after question getting them wrong, not really sure how to switch my approach or understanding. Any advice?
@Tswizzle25 No, literally in the same boat. I have probably gotten one answer right a day when going through this module. And every time I think I got it and feel confident, I get it wrong
@KendallFrancis05 I hear you. You're not alone! Keep pushing and drilling (what im trying to tell myself). Had to just go to sleep and wake up try again haha
@Tswizzle25 What helps me with these questions is to talk everything outloud. Humanizing the stimulus makes it more relatable for me to understand and pick the correct answer!
uhhh...okay? that's not helpful.
im putting that at the back of my end for wrong answers from this point forward
How do we know if an answer choice is the best without reading through all the answers? I recognized immediately that A was a great choice, but nonetheless felt compelled to read through the rest of the answers to be safe.
I am also thrown a bit on how to distinguish between which answer "best" supports or refutes an argument, with multiple competing choices.
I guess you can't, given the time limits. Yet you can pick it and come back later if you're left some time by the end.
Chose D, I think I (stupidly) equated for "some" and "most cases" to be the same/similar enough. Then, in the conclusion I understood it to mean that the level of harm is what is being considered. I understood D to mean the same thing - as in, D also says that since both have the same level of harm, they have the same mandate.
My last 2 choices were A and E. I picked E :(
same. I had A then changed it to E last minute :(
I thought A was too easy, so I chose E instead :(
YAYAYA got it right :) I see major improvement on strengthening questions:) now I need to work on the weakening ones:)
whenever I do the "you try" section I do very well. Most of the time I get it right. but when I go to drilling I can' get more than 2/5. why do you think that is? should I just quit now?
Are you trying to rush when doing drills? What difficulty are the drills? Are you reviewing your wrong answers when drilling and finding patterns in your wrong answers? Maybe go down to easy drills until you get the basics down and then gradually increase difficulty. Also, don't worry about time at all until you have a better comprehension.
Do not get discouraged! Keep practicing. One day at a time things will improve. You can do this :)
I really do think the time constraint is what prevents you from getting more correct so start with drills with unlimited time and then slowly set it out to the target time
Same here. Good to know I'm not alone on this at least. It sucks
Don't quit, but the drills are usually harder than the ones he gives us. The ones he gives us are supposed to teach a lesson in my eyes, whereas the drills are to test the lessons we've learned. Personally, I've switched to putting more priority on the end of section drills and additional drilling, because on those you can test yourself better with harder questions that he really isn't giving us very often.
I have gotten the last few wrong when the answers are seemingly answered in the text because of previous lessons. I am confused where the line is between redundant and strengthening. Any help?
what tips does anyone have when trying to study if you feel like you cannot focus on what your am reading. I was taking a prep test today and had to reread questions over and over again till I just took a break and now I am working on these types of questions to still continue learning
I've had this same issue. I fixed it by wearing earplugs or noise-canceling headphones while taking PTs to help me focus better. I've also found that quietly reading the stimulus/questions helps me better understand what I'm reading. If this doesn't help it may just be that you need to further your understanding of the core curriculum and continue to get used to how the LSAT is worded!
I am dealing with the same problem, and one day I was literally complaining that I might have a learning disability and messaged my doctors LOL. What is helping me is that I started to read a book during my train ride to work (1.25hr commute one way) to help condition my mind to focus on reading.
I've had this issue (and still do sometimes)... Although it feels weird, sometimes it's a matter of taking a break and coming back refreshed.
i read a comment that said "read an LR stem as if its a juicy piece of gossip that you've been dying to know about" and it actually does work. I find with LR and RC, pretending to be super interested in what the author is saying helps you actually stay focused.
the only issue is in real life you wont have those conditions, I was doing the same but real life test conditions are not like that
Got it right originally, second guessed myself in BR. Anyone else have this issue?
The law jargon in these last two question's really through me off. I got them both right in blind review though 😮💨
Got it wrong because it was stated in the stimulus, so it was too easy to be correct. :(
Very cheeky cuz you made the assumption yourself since it was so obvious.
stimulus didnt state the rule, it would be an instance of them applying it. That why its the right answer choice, if it wasnt the case that harm is proportional to the penalty, the reasoning for leveling the charge could be made another way, a way that contradicts the stimulus, something that a weakening question might ask to do.
Did anyone think that the first sentence was the rule?
I chose D because thought that. Ugh
I picked D because it gave a reason showing why his conclusion is strengthened. This confuses me because I feel like in the other strengthening questions this would have been correct. But in applying rule application it is incorrect. How do we know when it is looking for the two different types of answers? please help
Ok, now I see why D is wrong here, but still confused about the latter part of my question.
got 2 in a row right, =0 what's happening!
Is this supposed to be a lesson or a "you try" drill? In the past, we didn't do a drill before a lesson. thank you #help
Sorry, that's a mistake. It's been fixed.
Lol, usually I am averaging between 2 to 3 minutes on most questions. But I somehow got this one right in 28 seconds.
I was gonna chose A initially but I felt that C was more supportive and the fact that A said in general just made me feel like the wording was not that convincing. Just be falling for these LSAT traps.
in general is actually close to "most" while Often is close to "many"
#Help, in the answer choices, it uses phrases such as "in most cases", "generally" and "Often." Do these words all mean the same when discussing sufficient conditions?
I say yes.