I truly have been struggling since WSE now this. Feeling a bit depleted and after trying question after question getting them wrong, not really sure how to switch my approach or understanding. Any advice?
@Tswizzle25 No, literally in the same boat. I have probably gotten one answer right a day when going through this module. And every time I think I got it and feel confident, I get it wrong
@KendallFrancis05 I hear you. You're not alone! Keep pushing and drilling (what im trying to tell myself). Had to just go to sleep and wake up try again haha
I'm always torn when I see the correct answer right away. I knew A was correct and Choose to Submit Immediately without looking at the others ti save time but i worry I will mess up on some of these
Chose D, I think I (stupidly) equated for "some" and "most cases" to be the same/similar enough. Then, in the conclusion I understood it to mean that the level of harm is what is being considered. I understood D to mean the same thing - as in, D also says that since both have the same level of harm, they have the same mandate.
@lauretamrizi The stimulus never states that theft victims are harmed the same amount as bribery victims, just that this is what lawmakers believe, so it doesn't strengthen the conclusion of lawmakers considering theft harm and bribery harm to be equivalent.
If I'm super confident in my answer and the answer matched my prediction, should I still be reading the rest of the options? I feel like I'm only half reading them when I'm super confident and don't get anything out of it anyway.
Some of the harder questions on the LSAT can trick you with word choice and have two answers that both look correct except one has a single word that changes the meaning of the entire thing. I've found it can be helpful to just glance through the other choices just in case you see another that could be correct on first glance.
I got it right, I narrowed it down to A and D, however I was contemplating D. It just didn't seem as relevant to the argument, but how can I narrow out answers like this because on the LSAT, if I chose D, I don't get partial credit for saying "oh well I had it narrowed down to A or D and chose the wrong one but almost got it right."
This is the advice I got that helped: 'don't compare answers to each other, compare them to the stimulus'. I only think about one answer at a time because that's all my little brain can handle. Remember, there is never a time where there are two answers that could be right, so you must have misunderstood or misread something. Don't get frustrated at the test writers, they are probably right and probably don't care what you think.
If you're left with two or more answers after doing POE. Slow down, Re-read the stimulus, re read the question, re read your answers again, word. by. word. usually it will pop out. If it still doesn't, guess, mark it, and move on. Come back at the end if you have time.
How do we know if an answer choice is the best without reading through all the answers? I recognized immediately that A was a great choice, but nonetheless felt compelled to read through the rest of the answers to be safe.
I am also thrown a bit on how to distinguish between which answer "best" supports or refutes an argument, with multiple competing choices.
stimulus didnt state the rule, it would be an instance of them applying it. That why its the right answer choice, if it wasnt the case that harm is proportional to the penalty, the reasoning for leveling the charge could be made another way, a way that contradicts the stimulus, something that a weakening question might ask to do.
I was gonna chose A initially but I felt that C was more supportive and the fact that A said in general just made me feel like the wording was not that convincing. Just be falling for these LSAT traps.
I was very stuck between A, D and E. Ultimately had to just guess. I had to outweigh the assumptions, but interested in skills in building skills in understanding the assumptions and finding the best and most sensible ones.
I have gotten the last few wrong when the answers are seemingly answered in the text because of previous lessons. I am confused where the line is between redundant and strengthening. Any help?
#feedback Does that mean a rule is always general? I was looking at the fact the stimulus says "In some jurisdiction" while the correct answer choice says "in general"
what tips does anyone have when trying to study if you feel like you cannot focus on what your am reading. I was taking a prep test today and had to reread questions over and over again till I just took a break and now I am working on these types of questions to still continue learning
i read a comment that said "read an LR stem as if its a juicy piece of gossip that you've been dying to know about" and it actually does work. I find with LR and RC, pretending to be super interested in what the author is saying helps you actually stay focused.
I am dealing with the same problem, and one day I was literally complaining that I might have a learning disability and messaged my doctors LOL. What is helping me is that I started to read a book during my train ride to work (1.25hr commute one way) to help condition my mind to focus on reading.
I've had this same issue. I fixed it by wearing earplugs or noise-canceling headphones while taking PTs to help me focus better. I've also found that quietly reading the stimulus/questions helps me better understand what I'm reading. If this doesn't help it may just be that you need to further your understanding of the core curriculum and continue to get used to how the LSAT is worded!
PT64 was the original PT before LG was removed, and this page was created with the PT in it. But now that LG has been removed and the PTs have been restructured, PT134 is the new PT where it can be found.
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I truly have been struggling since WSE now this. Feeling a bit depleted and after trying question after question getting them wrong, not really sure how to switch my approach or understanding. Any advice?
@Tswizzle25 No, literally in the same boat. I have probably gotten one answer right a day when going through this module. And every time I think I got it and feel confident, I get it wrong
@KendallFrancis05 I hear you. You're not alone! Keep pushing and drilling (what im trying to tell myself). Had to just go to sleep and wake up try again haha
YAYAYA got it right :) I see major improvement on strengthening questions:) now I need to work on the weakening ones:)
I'm always torn when I see the correct answer right away. I knew A was correct and Choose to Submit Immediately without looking at the others ti save time but i worry I will mess up on some of these
Chose D, I think I (stupidly) equated for "some" and "most cases" to be the same/similar enough. Then, in the conclusion I understood it to mean that the level of harm is what is being considered. I understood D to mean the same thing - as in, D also says that since both have the same level of harm, they have the same mandate.
Got it right originally, second guessed myself in BR. Anyone else have this issue?
The law jargon in these last two question's really through me off. I got them both right in blind review though 😮💨
#help I think I am missing something in the new version - how do you do Blind Review before seeing if you got the answer right?
@gleeson.lauren we cant in this new version, I already asked it and 7sage said that we should just take it untimed
So, confirming a premise or fact in the stimulus wouldn't strengthen the argument (D)
@lauretamrizi The stimulus never states that theft victims are harmed the same amount as bribery victims, just that this is what lawmakers believe, so it doesn't strengthen the conclusion of lawmakers considering theft harm and bribery harm to be equivalent.
So here we try to figure out WHY they have the beliefs instead of providing the belief itself?
honestly that is how i took this answer as well
If I'm super confident in my answer and the answer matched my prediction, should I still be reading the rest of the options? I feel like I'm only half reading them when I'm super confident and don't get anything out of it anyway.
Some of the harder questions on the LSAT can trick you with word choice and have two answers that both look correct except one has a single word that changes the meaning of the entire thing. I've found it can be helpful to just glance through the other choices just in case you see another that could be correct on first glance.
I got it right, I narrowed it down to A and D, however I was contemplating D. It just didn't seem as relevant to the argument, but how can I narrow out answers like this because on the LSAT, if I chose D, I don't get partial credit for saying "oh well I had it narrowed down to A or D and chose the wrong one but almost got it right."
This is the advice I got that helped: 'don't compare answers to each other, compare them to the stimulus'. I only think about one answer at a time because that's all my little brain can handle. Remember, there is never a time where there are two answers that could be right, so you must have misunderstood or misread something. Don't get frustrated at the test writers, they are probably right and probably don't care what you think.
If you're left with two or more answers after doing POE. Slow down, Re-read the stimulus, re read the question, re read your answers again, word. by. word. usually it will pop out. If it still doesn't, guess, mark it, and move on. Come back at the end if you have time.
How do we know if an answer choice is the best without reading through all the answers? I recognized immediately that A was a great choice, but nonetheless felt compelled to read through the rest of the answers to be safe.
I am also thrown a bit on how to distinguish between which answer "best" supports or refutes an argument, with multiple competing choices.
I guess you can't, given the time limits. Yet you can pick it and come back later if you're left some time by the end.
Lol, usually I am averaging between 2 to 3 minutes on most questions. But I somehow got this one right in 28 seconds.
Got it wrong because it was stated in the stimulus, so it was too easy to be correct. :(
stimulus didnt state the rule, it would be an instance of them applying it. That why its the right answer choice, if it wasnt the case that harm is proportional to the penalty, the reasoning for leveling the charge could be made another way, a way that contradicts the stimulus, something that a weakening question might ask to do.
Very cheeky cuz you made the assumption yourself since it was so obvious.
I was gonna chose A initially but I felt that C was more supportive and the fact that A said in general just made me feel like the wording was not that convincing. Just be falling for these LSAT traps.
in general is actually close to "most" while Often is close to "many"
I was very stuck between A, D and E. Ultimately had to just guess. I had to outweigh the assumptions, but interested in skills in building skills in understanding the assumptions and finding the best and most sensible ones.
I have gotten the last few wrong when the answers are seemingly answered in the text because of previous lessons. I am confused where the line is between redundant and strengthening. Any help?
im cooked
real
#feedback Does that mean a rule is always general? I was looking at the fact the stimulus says "In some jurisdiction" while the correct answer choice says "in general"
got 2 in a row right, =0 what's happening!
My last 2 choices were A and E. I picked E :(
same. I had A then changed it to E last minute :(
I thought A was too easy, so I chose E instead :(
omg I changed it at the last second and originally had it correct.
me tooooo!!!! omg
what tips does anyone have when trying to study if you feel like you cannot focus on what your am reading. I was taking a prep test today and had to reread questions over and over again till I just took a break and now I am working on these types of questions to still continue learning
I've had this issue (and still do sometimes)... Although it feels weird, sometimes it's a matter of taking a break and coming back refreshed.
i read a comment that said "read an LR stem as if its a juicy piece of gossip that you've been dying to know about" and it actually does work. I find with LR and RC, pretending to be super interested in what the author is saying helps you actually stay focused.
I am dealing with the same problem, and one day I was literally complaining that I might have a learning disability and messaged my doctors LOL. What is helping me is that I started to read a book during my train ride to work (1.25hr commute one way) to help condition my mind to focus on reading.
I've had this same issue. I fixed it by wearing earplugs or noise-canceling headphones while taking PTs to help me focus better. I've also found that quietly reading the stimulus/questions helps me better understand what I'm reading. If this doesn't help it may just be that you need to further your understanding of the core curriculum and continue to get used to how the LSAT is worded!
the only issue is in real life you wont have those conditions, I was doing the same but real life test conditions are not like that
Did anyone think that the first sentence was the rule?
I chose D because thought that. Ugh
Is this PT64? Or Pt134? The search bar and the question say different things
PT64 was the original PT before LG was removed, and this page was created with the PT in it. But now that LG has been removed and the PTs have been restructured, PT134 is the new PT where it can be found.
In other words, both are correct lmao