rushed to answer C without even finishing reading the rest of the answer choices that was on me LMAO but i got it right in br! it did take me like 10 mins tho
I got every 4-5 star question in this module wrong, but this question, I got right first try and in a decent time. It's like drinking water for the first time after you've been hiking for hours straight with no break, or traversing a long arid desert. To those struggling, not having these SA questions and explanations come intuitively or come after much diagramming, it will all be worth it when you eventually get a high level SA question right. No matter how crashed out you feel, that first sip of water will eventually come.
#feedback I am overall disappointed with 7Sage in this section. The way the concepts and questions are explained is more confusing than necessary. Many students share similar sentiments; a random YouTube video often explains these better than what I am getting here. I suggest working on this section with more diagrams and visuals to improve clarity
@ps939 Can you write out how you're thinking about this question? What's the conclusion, premise, what are you thinking about what we want before the correct answer? What answer are you attracted to, why do you think it's right, why don't you like the answer that's correct, etc.? This is the best way to clarify anything that's confusing.
@JessM Oh same... absolutely brutal. I knew it had to be E but kept trying to convince myself that it wasn't. This question is such a good example of choosing an answer that will GUARANTEE the the conclusion is valid. elimintate ones that says "usually" or that are circling back to itself. This question took me wayyyyyy too long. i feel dumb lol
Like many other people here, SA questions have been kicking my ass and these lessons haven't been clicking for me at all. So I went to go watch a recorded class with Clayton Allen and it helped so much. Especially his note about tricks for POE in these types of questions. Highly recommend if these lessons/explanations haven't been clicking for you! (@7sage admin give that man a raise!)
@kosomak100 Taking 5+ minutes and diagramming them out has helped me get more right and made me feel significantly less incompetent. These are definitely hard tho
@arieatsoranges If I still struggle to understand the stimulus and which answer choice was the correct one for what reason, I will try diagramming the problem on my own and just beat the dead horse until the words barely make sense anymore. When we first started the curriculum, this is what I did with the Coffee Shoppe problem. I would write out the conditional statements backwards and forwards and chain them and do the same thing with the ACs.
I will also talk myself through it out loud like I am writing the lesson myself. It can help to take notes and diagram for sure, but in the actual test environment you're rarely going to have time to diagram, so the work of diagramming now should be done with the goal of doing it in your head eventually.
With note taking, I heard someone say one time that they started using note taking as a strategy to procrastinate. This is definitely something I do, so I had to resist note taking and just flag the hard questions and come back to them later with a fresh eye to see how I do. If you notice yourself continually making the same mistakes, whether it is making the sufficiency/necessity confusion, failing to read the whole stimulus/AC, messing up comparatives, etc., you can make note of those and drill them separately.
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WATCH the recorded lecture on SA by CLAYTON ALLEN!
HELPS A TON!!!
rushed to answer C without even finishing reading the rest of the answer choices that was on me LMAO but i got it right in br! it did take me like 10 mins tho
Got it on BR, really starting to make a lot more sense!!!
I just don't get it someone please help
Can we throw out answers A, D, and C based on usage of the word "usually"?
I got it!
I've heard that 7sage isn't great for the 4-5 star questions and I'm starting to see why. I need to find some other source.
I got every 4-5 star question in this module wrong, but this question, I got right first try and in a decent time. It's like drinking water for the first time after you've been hiking for hours straight with no break, or traversing a long arid desert. To those struggling, not having these SA questions and explanations come intuitively or come after much diagramming, it will all be worth it when you eventually get a high level SA question right. No matter how crashed out you feel, that first sip of water will eventually come.
i keep psyching myself out... i was set on E until the last second
Took me 8 minutes, I got it right tho. lol
#feedback I am overall disappointed with 7Sage in this section. The way the concepts and questions are explained is more confusing than necessary. Many students share similar sentiments; a random YouTube video often explains these better than what I am getting here. I suggest working on this section with more diagrams and visuals to improve clarity
@lsatenjoyer which YouTube video did you watch?
yea this literally make no sense to me unfortunately. How come I always diagram correctly and still get it wrong? what am I missing?!
I hate when the answer choices are just as long as the stimmy :(
i can't believe i got this right :0 this whole section has been kicking my butt
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@besrawi Giving an explanation could help instead
@besrawi 😭😭😭 you miserable
@besrawi but all hope was lost
Geez this question took me 10 minutes but I found the correct answer
idk but these explanations have not been good at all. I feel like there were longer explanations for much more simpler questions.
@ps939 Can you write out how you're thinking about this question? What's the conclusion, premise, what are you thinking about what we want before the correct answer? What answer are you attracted to, why do you think it's right, why don't you like the answer that's correct, etc.? This is the best way to clarify anything that's confusing.
@Kevin_Lin I think this explanation would have been better with conditional arrows
I'm about to throw my computer none of this is clicking
@JessM Oh same... absolutely brutal. I knew it had to be E but kept trying to convince myself that it wasn't. This question is such a good example of choosing an answer that will GUARANTEE the the conclusion is valid. elimintate ones that says "usually" or that are circling back to itself. This question took me wayyyyyy too long. i feel dumb lol
C almost tricked me, but it became apparent why it was wrong.
Like many other people here, SA questions have been kicking my ass and these lessons haven't been clicking for me at all. So I went to go watch a recorded class with Clayton Allen and it helped so much. Especially his note about tricks for POE in these types of questions. Highly recommend if these lessons/explanations haven't been clicking for you! (@7sage admin give that man a raise!)
@iriswu84153 Best advice I just did this and got the next question right.
@iriswu84153 thank you!!
would like to die this moedule has been the absolute worst and has ruined all confidence
@kosomak100 Taking 5+ minutes and diagramming them out has helped me get more right and made me feel significantly less incompetent. These are definitely hard tho
@MilesHartung thank you for actually giving advice rather than just commenting that you got it right
Now how in the hell I end up getting the hardest one right? Like I knew what to search for and found it in the answers. SMH.
when i get these right it's like seeing sunlight for the first time
@VanillaCat Legit the first one I got right this entire lesson
How do y'all take notes on difficult questions like these? Do you takes notes or do you just watch/read the content?
@arieatsoranges If I still struggle to understand the stimulus and which answer choice was the correct one for what reason, I will try diagramming the problem on my own and just beat the dead horse until the words barely make sense anymore. When we first started the curriculum, this is what I did with the Coffee Shoppe problem. I would write out the conditional statements backwards and forwards and chain them and do the same thing with the ACs.
I will also talk myself through it out loud like I am writing the lesson myself. It can help to take notes and diagram for sure, but in the actual test environment you're rarely going to have time to diagram, so the work of diagramming now should be done with the goal of doing it in your head eventually.
With note taking, I heard someone say one time that they started using note taking as a strategy to procrastinate. This is definitely something I do, so I had to resist note taking and just flag the hard questions and come back to them later with a fresh eye to see how I do. If you notice yourself continually making the same mistakes, whether it is making the sufficiency/necessity confusion, failing to read the whole stimulus/AC, messing up comparatives, etc., you can make note of those and drill them separately.
Oh dear, it keeps getting worse for me during this module....