As I was watching this video, I got stuck on why it is the case that every driver MUST be affected in the same exact way for the premises to support the conclusion and the argument not fall apart. If every driver is affected differently, couldn’t one still draw a conclusion that those who perform best when the supervisor is present (because the affect can be different for different people) will perform best under normal conditions. Are we trying to say that it’s necessary for the supervisor’s general effect to be the same and not necessarily how the driver is affected? I feel like that is different or I’m just dumb lol.
i understand this specific example, however for future reference.. if there are 2 answers that both strengthen the argument, how can you decide which is the correct necessary assumption? any simplified way of analyzing this to have as a set rule?
I love how each video breaks down questions but, I think it would be beneficial if I could see the entire question (with answers) before hearing the explanation.
#help when doing NA questions is there a sufficient condition & necessary condition in the argument? Or is the argument providing a sufficient condition and the answer is the necessary condition that we have to assume for the conclusion to follow logically?
Anyone have tips/tricks for pointing out trap answer choices? I can usually eliminate some choices with relative ease, but I find it difficult on NA questions to point out the ones that are strengtheners or "pretend to strengthen"
#feedback. Would it be possible to add an option to see the "analytics" for these sample questions? (difficulty level, suggested time). Would be super helpful to gauge my understanding of these questions when practicing
Could someone explain to me in different terms why C is incorrect and D is correct? I'm super stuck on how C points in one direction (drivers are affected negatively) and is wrong but D says all drivers are affected equally and is right.
#feedback I find that not all videos appear with a toggle for the speed of playback. Sometimes it's visible and sometimes not. It seems to vary randomly.
Is it a safe assumption that "affect" here is "negatively affect"? I mean the stim says the bus drivers complain....why would they complain if the presence of a supervisor is positively affecting their performance?
#feedback I don't find it helpful to only show the right answer first, I think it would be more helpful in the lesson to take a look at all the answers, take a quick guess, and then dive into which one is right and which ones are wrong. It's too obvious why it's the right answer when it's already explained beforehand. On the test, the answers are laid out first, and then it becomes clear which one is correct, not the other way around.
The idea that the direction and size of the impact has to be roughly the same still doesn't stick to me. I get that the ranking order in both situations (with or without supervisor) has to remain the same to make the conclusion work, but that conclusion can still be valid even if the direction and size of the impact are different? For example:
The best driver's performance without supervisor is 5, and their performance gets BETTER with supervisor (let's say +5), so their final score with supervisor is 10 (and 5 without).
The worst driver's performance without supervisor is 3, and their performance gets WORSE with supervisor (let's say -5), so their final score with supervisor is -2 (and 3 without).
Assuming the drivers in between the BEST and the WORST categories in this example all have the same and consistent direction and size (i.e. direction opposite to their performance getting BETTER with the size of the impact on their performance getting BIGGER), doesn't this example show that the direction and size could be different but their ranking order in either situation (with or without supervisor) remains the same?
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As I was watching this video, I got stuck on why it is the case that every driver MUST be affected in the same exact way for the premises to support the conclusion and the argument not fall apart. If every driver is affected differently, couldn’t one still draw a conclusion that those who perform best when the supervisor is present (because the affect can be different for different people) will perform best under normal conditions. Are we trying to say that it’s necessary for the supervisor’s general effect to be the same and not necessarily how the driver is affected? I feel like that is different or I’m just dumb lol.
i gain nothing from being shown the right answer first. these lessons are useless if i am not able to evaluate answers.
i understand this specific example, however for future reference.. if there are 2 answers that both strengthen the argument, how can you decide which is the correct necessary assumption? any simplified way of analyzing this to have as a set rule?
I love how each video breaks down questions but, I think it would be beneficial if I could see the entire question (with answers) before hearing the explanation.
#help when doing NA questions is there a sufficient condition & necessary condition in the argument? Or is the argument providing a sufficient condition and the answer is the necessary condition that we have to assume for the conclusion to follow logically?
Anyone have tips/tricks for pointing out trap answer choices? I can usually eliminate some choices with relative ease, but I find it difficult on NA questions to point out the ones that are strengtheners or "pretend to strengthen"
#feedback. Would it be possible to add an option to see the "analytics" for these sample questions? (difficulty level, suggested time). Would be super helpful to gauge my understanding of these questions when practicing
"The judges are not basing their judgements off entirely arbitrary criteria."
Because the conclusion only relates to how well drivers will drive, this pretend answer would still not be a correct NA right?
Could someone explain to me in different terms why C is incorrect and D is correct? I'm super stuck on how C points in one direction (drivers are affected negatively) and is wrong but D says all drivers are affected equally and is right.
#feedback I find that not all videos appear with a toggle for the speed of playback. Sometimes it's visible and sometimes not. It seems to vary randomly.
I'm still confused about this. What's the difference between a necessary assumption and a sufficient assumption?
Is it a safe assumption that "affect" here is "negatively affect"? I mean the stim says the bus drivers complain....why would they complain if the presence of a supervisor is positively affecting their performance?
#feedback I don't find it helpful to only show the right answer first, I think it would be more helpful in the lesson to take a look at all the answers, take a quick guess, and then dive into which one is right and which ones are wrong. It's too obvious why it's the right answer when it's already explained beforehand. On the test, the answers are laid out first, and then it becomes clear which one is correct, not the other way around.
how do I get the hard ones right and the easiest ones wrong...
why do i only get the lesson questions correct and not the You Try questions? lol
I still don't understand why c is wrong #help
#help #help #help
The idea that the direction and size of the impact has to be roughly the same still doesn't stick to me. I get that the ranking order in both situations (with or without supervisor) has to remain the same to make the conclusion work, but that conclusion can still be valid even if the direction and size of the impact are different? For example:
The best driver's performance without supervisor is 5, and their performance gets BETTER with supervisor (let's say +5), so their final score with supervisor is 10 (and 5 without).
The worst driver's performance without supervisor is 3, and their performance gets WORSE with supervisor (let's say -5), so their final score with supervisor is -2 (and 3 without).
Assuming the drivers in between the BEST and the WORST categories in this example all have the same and consistent direction and size (i.e. direction opposite to their performance getting BETTER with the size of the impact on their performance getting BIGGER), doesn't this example show that the direction and size could be different but their ranking order in either situation (with or without supervisor) remains the same?
For anyone struggling, Illuminate LSAT on Youtube has a really good series on necessary assumptions which fits well into the 7Sage curriculum
Should I try out the mini drills here under time pressure and then BR and take the time I want? Or do it untimed all together?
Where can I find the introduction to the different types of reasoning?
How would you negate AC D?
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