My dog is so bad, that I just don't know what to do. She won't listen to a thing I say. Discipline her or ignore the behavior? I feel so attacked right now
How can we open this by saying it's weaken question when the stimulus states that the argument is flawed and proceeds to ask us what it fails to consider (the hallmarks of a flaw question based on the previous two lessons)?
Additionally, the tags for this question are "Flaw" and "Causal Reasoning"
Genuinely not comprehending how this is a weaken question outside of the fact that the identified flaw will weaken the question, as we already learned: "Hey, argument, you're about to get punched in the face" whereas weakening questions were "I just punched you in the face"
it's not! he swapped the stem in the video to "Which one of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the reasoning in the argument?" for the sake of showing that flaw questions can be very similar to weaken questions in how you answer them. The question's actual stem is a flaw question.
Yes. Also, I'm not seeing how it's negative. I was pointing out a discrepancy both to garner someone to potentially explain something to me (as is the point of the comment section) and to give feedback albeit in an obtuse way (feedback is also one of the main purposes of the comment section).
If you're referring to my comments of frustration about the timing for the study scheduler not being displayed right in the modules or the fact that the video player never seems to fully load without reloading the whole page a few times, that's feedback. Considering the payments people make monthly to use this platform, I think it's okay to be frustrated when some of the aspects of the website don't work as fully as showcased to get people to sign up in the first place.
But to answer your question more directly: yes, I even made a few comments directed at Kevin today for handling lessons, especially wrong answer choices, so well in the RC section of the curriculum. I speak up on the inconvenient parts of the website and speak up on the positive parts. I help others with explanations, and I ask for explanations. These are all fair uses of the comments section.
I am confused because you said that answer c was wrong in that it just denies the conclusion, and we are instead trying to weaken the argument, but the right answer is also denying the conclusion by saying that there is an alternative hypothesis, no?
"But it doesn't answer the question. We have not weakened the argument. We’ve merely contradicted the conclusion. To conflate one of these for the other is itself a commonly recurring flaw on the test."
The question stem asks us to undermine the reasoning of the argument, which is not accomplished by merely contradicting the conclusion. In order to weaken the reasoning, we need to engage with the support structure, ie. the relationship between the premises and the conclusion
It's this exactly. He said it at the beginning of the video lesson that he wants to call back to something we're already familiar with to help us ease into Flaw questions
I am seeing the same stimulus and ACs, but different question stems. My hunch is that JY likely changed the stem in his video explanation to emphasize the similarities to "weaken" questions.
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Its April 1st
When the question asks about undermining the reasoning, or in general refers to reasoning, is it referring to the premise of the argument?
Shaking and crying rn, J.Y. would never do this.
My reaction to this betrayal
fuming rn
My dog is so bad, that I just don't know what to do. She won't listen to a thing I say. Discipline her or ignore the behavior? I feel so attacked right now
@cmhrandall593 Discipline her by ignoring her
The plot twist at the end...no wonder I was so confused at first. LMAO
How can we open this by saying it's weaken question when the stimulus states that the argument is flawed and proceeds to ask us what it fails to consider (the hallmarks of a flaw question based on the previous two lessons)?
Additionally, the tags for this question are "Flaw" and "Causal Reasoning"
Genuinely not comprehending how this is a weaken question outside of the fact that the identified flaw will weaken the question, as we already learned: "Hey, argument, you're about to get punched in the face" whereas weakening questions were "I just punched you in the face"
it's not! he swapped the stem in the video to "Which one of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the reasoning in the argument?" for the sake of showing that flaw questions can be very similar to weaken questions in how you answer them. The question's actual stem is a flaw question.
do u ever say anything positive in these comments lmao
Colin has actually been quite helpful in the comment in the past. This is a weird take
lol see you there colin
Yes. Also, I'm not seeing how it's negative. I was pointing out a discrepancy both to garner someone to potentially explain something to me (as is the point of the comment section) and to give feedback albeit in an obtuse way (feedback is also one of the main purposes of the comment section).
If you're referring to my comments of frustration about the timing for the study scheduler not being displayed right in the modules or the fact that the video player never seems to fully load without reloading the whole page a few times, that's feedback. Considering the payments people make monthly to use this platform, I think it's okay to be frustrated when some of the aspects of the website don't work as fully as showcased to get people to sign up in the first place.
But to answer your question more directly: yes, I even made a few comments directed at Kevin today for handling lessons, especially wrong answer choices, so well in the RC section of the curriculum. I speak up on the inconvenient parts of the website and speak up on the positive parts. I help others with explanations, and I ask for explanations. These are all fair uses of the comments section.
See you soon in RC.
Colin donates his extra cents to charities at Panda Express #goodman #100%support
@dannyurbina18387 I'm dead, thank you for your service colin
I just know this guy would cook me in trial
#help #feedback
I am confused because you said that answer c was wrong in that it just denies the conclusion, and we are instead trying to weaken the argument, but the right answer is also denying the conclusion by saying that there is an alternative hypothesis, no?
"But it doesn't answer the question. We have not weakened the argument. We’ve merely contradicted the conclusion. To conflate one of these for the other is itself a commonly recurring flaw on the test."
The question stem asks us to undermine the reasoning of the argument, which is not accomplished by merely contradicting the conclusion. In order to weaken the reasoning, we need to engage with the support structure, ie. the relationship between the premises and the conclusion
Am I the only one whose QuickView question was different than the video?
Same here
nah it's different, plz fix admins #feedback
It's this exactly. He said it at the beginning of the video lesson that he wants to call back to something we're already familiar with to help us ease into Flaw questions
I am seeing the same stimulus and ACs, but different question stems. My hunch is that JY likely changed the stem in his video explanation to emphasize the similarities to "weaken" questions.
Michael Vick
omg
relax
lmfaooo
that comment has an undertone
"I cast Ghost of Strife!" -Yugi, probably
"My donkey looks nothing like my dog!" LOL. Not angry at all as I stink at Weakening Questions previously so needed this.
I'm upset and angy
How could you, J. Y.; I don't think I'll ever recover from this 🥲
At least J.Y. makes the pain of the LSAT a little more bearable🥲
"that's fantastic! What do I do with this information?" is a go-to line now.
"we should both take some time to cool off" great, now 7sage is breaking up with me
"I put it to you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that a ghost of strife..."
I was rolling on the floor. These lessons are too much.
I knew something was off... ;(
exactly lol
idk if i can forgive u JY…
still cooling off...
I did not expect the last couple of seconds of this lesson
"My donkey looks nothing like my dog." Amazing!