I think what makes this whole passage so confusing is that we are told that glass flowing downwards is a myth, and then all the questions have something to do with glass actually flowing downwards lol. Still did fine but that's what had me so confused.
@tsandin I agree! But I guess if you read further into the passage it doesn't say 'glass flowing downwards' itself is a myth but that glass flowing downwards is the reason that windows are ripply in old buildings.
@EricT024 I liked this stimulus better. And the questions were even interesting. But the freaking answer choices were impossible! I definitely preferred the answer choices from the LHB stimulus.
Does anyone have any tips on how to get past the boringness of some of these... I really feel like I do poorly on some of the passages because the topics are so obscure and boring that I just can't focus. How can I better stay focused on these and understand them more??
Sometimes I pretend im in the field the passage is about, and a colleague is gossiping to me about it! Doesnt always work but it helps a bit when its really boring.
I was hesitant to choose C because the phrase "well above" made me feel like it as too far of a reach based on what was said in the passage. The stimuli just said that the temp would have to AT LEAST be 350. So, I rationalized not picking C because 355 could be the maximum and it isn't necessarily "well above" 350. I got it correct in the BR but that's because I had chosen that as a back up. If anyone could explain this to me I would appreciate it! #help #feedback
@asanchez The third paragraph say about the flowing glass "must be heated to at least 350 degrees"
This tells you 350 is the bare minimum. With that information, you can infer that above that 350 degrees, maybe even "well above" it, is needed for this visable this transition.
I hope that makes sense! If you still happen to be studying.
Interesting just how poorly written this particular passage was. Rather than packaging all of the relevant information together, using language that didn't obfuscate the full meaning, and avoiding mid-sentence asides that embed more complex structures...LSAC actively aims to have poor constructions that aren't objectively wrong.
And that's my biggest takeaway yet again: if there is a series of phrases that are packaged together in an arcane way IT'S ON PURPOSE and CLOSE READ. Because a difficult question (or two or three) is incoming.
i do not like the idea that because 350 is a lower limit of the transition range that the upper bound is hundreds higher. i get its the most supported and im still 100% wrong for choosing the wrong answer but damn.
@chuddychad420 Glass does not have a precise freezing point; rather, it has what is known as a glass transition temperature, typically a range of a few hundred degrees Celsius.
I used that sentence as evidence it was hundreds higher. If we know 350 is the lowest it can be heated, and the range is a few hundred degrees then it makes sense.
I got this correct because I found answer choice (C) to have the most support, but isn't "a few hundred degrees Celsius" being "well above" a subjective observation? Wouldn't that hurt the answer choice at least slightly?
#feedback "under the force of gravity, certain solid materials including glass can, in fact, flow slightly" -- isn't this saying that glass could theoretically flow without the need of reaching the transition temperature?
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bro mfers mention glass transition temperature like once and boom we have three whole questions about it
@TheBigFatPanda exactly lmao
@TheBigFatPanda audible laughter
I got a level 5 question right after getting so much of this passage wrong. There is hope <3
I think what makes this whole passage so confusing is that we are told that glass flowing downwards is a myth, and then all the questions have something to do with glass actually flowing downwards lol. Still did fine but that's what had me so confused.
@tsandin I agree! But I guess if you read further into the passage it doesn't say 'glass flowing downwards' itself is a myth but that glass flowing downwards is the reason that windows are ripply in old buildings.
I didn't like "well above" but still went with C because everything else was worse
So “at least 350” suggests “well above 350.” I’m so triggered..
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I enjoyed the LHB passage way more than this one, that's for sure
@EricT024 I liked this stimulus better. And the questions were even interesting. But the freaking answer choices were impossible! I definitely preferred the answer choices from the LHB stimulus.
I'm soooo over this
I'm actually going to cry real tears of joy because after bombing so many questions in a row, got this right in 33secs!!!
This seemed like a really easy question unlike other level 5 difficulty questions
I freaking agree with you... I seem to get all the "most difficult" ones right and then I will get the "easy" ones wrong. It makes no sense to me.
Fully thought it was a 1 star and was SHOCKED
Really needed that right answer I was losing faith hahahha
I know people hate it when people brag about getting a harder one right but dang it feels good to get a 5 star right under the time.
well above 350 is acceptable since it says upper extremeeeeee.
Does anyone have any tips on how to get past the boringness of some of these... I really feel like I do poorly on some of the passages because the topics are so obscure and boring that I just can't focus. How can I better stay focused on these and understand them more??
Sometimes I pretend im in the field the passage is about, and a colleague is gossiping to me about it! Doesnt always work but it helps a bit when its really boring.
Surprised to see this is a level 5 difficulty question..
I was hesitant to choose C because the phrase "well above" made me feel like it as too far of a reach based on what was said in the passage. The stimuli just said that the temp would have to AT LEAST be 350. So, I rationalized not picking C because 355 could be the maximum and it isn't necessarily "well above" 350. I got it correct in the BR but that's because I had chosen that as a back up. If anyone could explain this to me I would appreciate it! #help #feedback
@asanchez I had the same thought process
@asanchez The third paragraph say about the flowing glass "must be heated to at least 350 degrees"
This tells you 350 is the bare minimum. With that information, you can infer that above that 350 degrees, maybe even "well above" it, is needed for this visable this transition.
I hope that makes sense! If you still happen to be studying.
Interesting just how poorly written this particular passage was. Rather than packaging all of the relevant information together, using language that didn't obfuscate the full meaning, and avoiding mid-sentence asides that embed more complex structures...LSAC actively aims to have poor constructions that aren't objectively wrong.
And that's my biggest takeaway yet again: if there is a series of phrases that are packaged together in an arcane way IT'S ON PURPOSE and CLOSE READ. Because a difficult question (or two or three) is incoming.
@wm if you've ever worked in a job dealing with contracts, you understand why they are teaching us to read like this haha
@gurbytown Certainly can't argue with that, although I would bet it will be rare for the grammar to be this poor.
got 4/7 through this whole section, at this point a win is a win
I dont get this one at all
i do not like the idea that because 350 is a lower limit of the transition range that the upper bound is hundreds higher. i get its the most supported and im still 100% wrong for choosing the wrong answer but damn.
@chuddychad420 Glass does not have a precise freezing point; rather, it has what is known as a glass transition temperature, typically a range of a few hundred degrees Celsius.
I used that sentence as evidence it was hundreds higher. If we know 350 is the lowest it can be heated, and the range is a few hundred degrees then it makes sense.
I got this correct because I found answer choice (C) to have the most support, but isn't "a few hundred degrees Celsius" being "well above" a subjective observation? Wouldn't that hurt the answer choice at least slightly?
#feedback "under the force of gravity, certain solid materials including glass can, in fact, flow slightly" -- isn't this saying that glass could theoretically flow without the need of reaching the transition temperature?
So incredible frustrating getting both implied questions right on the first try - then second guessing and putting the answer next to the correct one.
WOOOOO WE ARE SO BACK?
this question pisses me off