Interesting just how poorly written this particular passage was. Rather than packaging all of the relevant information together, using language that didn't obfuscate the full meaning, and avoiding mid-sentence asides that embed more complex structures...LSAC actively aims to have poor constructions that aren't objectively wrong.
And that's my biggest takeaway yet again: if there is a series of phrases that are packaged together in an arcane way IT'S ON PURPOSE and CLOSE READ. Because a difficult question (or two or three) is incoming.
I chose D thinking the TENDENCY to flow downward is related to gravity instead of temperature. The rate of flowing downward of course depends on temperature, but that is not what D says🤷
i do not like the idea that because 350 is a lower limit of the transition range that the upper bound is hundreds higher. i get its the most supported and im still 100% wrong for choosing the wrong answer but damn.
@chuddychad420 Glass does not have a precise freezing point; rather, it has what is known as a glass transition temperature, typically a range of a few hundred degrees Celsius.
I used that sentence as evidence it was hundreds higher. If we know 350 is the lowest it can be heated, and the range is a few hundred degrees then it makes sense.
I got this correct because I found answer choice (C) to have the most support, but isn't "a few hundred degrees Celsius" being "well above" a subjective observation? Wouldn't that hurt the answer choice at least slightly?
#feedback "under the force of gravity, certain solid materials including glass can, in fact, flow slightly" -- isn't this saying that glass could theoretically flow without the need of reaching the transition temperature?
I think what makes this whole passage so confusing is that we are told that glass flowing downwards is a myth, and then all the questions have something to do with glass actually flowing downwards lol. Still did fine but that's what had me so confused.
@tsandin I agree! But I guess if you read further into the passage it doesn't say 'glass flowing downwards' itself is a myth but that glass flowing downwards is the reason that windows are ripply in old buildings.
@EricT024 I liked this stimulus better. And the questions were even interesting. But the freaking answer choices were impossible! I definitely preferred the answer choices from the LHB stimulus.
#feedback Would you guys consider adding a word search feature like the LSAC has on LawHub? The LSAT has that feature and I feel like it would help me speed up my accurate answers.
This is on the list of features that should eventually make it to 7Sage's new version of the website. Unfortunately it won't be added to this version of the website.
So this is the second implied question we're getting for this passage. I'm curious to know if anybody else got the first implied question for this passage wrong (lesson 21 for me), but then went on to get this second implied question right. I got the first implied question for this passage wrong (though I very nearly went with the correct answer). I got the question in this lesson right but I'm doubtful as to whether or not I would've been able to do that had I not gotten that previous implied question wrong—while attempting this question I recalled that the correct answer in lesson 21 was similar to (D) in this lesson's question. I also recalled why (D) was correct in that previous lesson. I don't know if I would've been able to cross (D) as easily here without knowing and understanding that. I was struggling to eliminate answer choices on this questions for a solid minute—I was struggling between (C), (D), and (E). Once I was able to cross (D) it was easy to pick between (C) and (E).
I'm in the same boat. I got the first one wrong, and I got this one right. I think they were both difficult, but the answer wording on this one is less confusing, I guess?
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I dont get this one at all
got it right with 23 seconds to spare LETS GOOOO
Interesting just how poorly written this particular passage was. Rather than packaging all of the relevant information together, using language that didn't obfuscate the full meaning, and avoiding mid-sentence asides that embed more complex structures...LSAC actively aims to have poor constructions that aren't objectively wrong.
And that's my biggest takeaway yet again: if there is a series of phrases that are packaged together in an arcane way IT'S ON PURPOSE and CLOSE READ. Because a difficult question (or two or three) is incoming.
@wm if you've ever worked in a job dealing with contracts, you understand why they are teaching us to read like this haha
@gurbytown Certainly can't argue with that, although I would bet it will be rare for the grammar to be this poor.
I chose D thinking the TENDENCY to flow downward is related to gravity instead of temperature. The rate of flowing downward of course depends on temperature, but that is not what D says🤷
I'm soooo over this
I got all but one correct for this one, 6/7 not bad but honestly my issue is with timing more than the accuracy when I have time.
@TeklaCo I got 7/7 I am proud of myself, but a little worried about the timing too.
i do not like the idea that because 350 is a lower limit of the transition range that the upper bound is hundreds higher. i get its the most supported and im still 100% wrong for choosing the wrong answer but damn.
@chuddychad420 Glass does not have a precise freezing point; rather, it has what is known as a glass transition temperature, typically a range of a few hundred degrees Celsius.
I used that sentence as evidence it was hundreds higher. If we know 350 is the lowest it can be heated, and the range is a few hundred degrees then it makes sense.
Anyone else find this passage much easier? Went 7/7 on this one but 2/5 on the last one....
yay
I got this correct because I found answer choice (C) to have the most support, but isn't "a few hundred degrees Celsius" being "well above" a subjective observation? Wouldn't that hurt the answer choice at least slightly?
I'm actually going to cry real tears of joy because after bombing so many questions in a row, got this right in 33secs!!!
#feedback "under the force of gravity, certain solid materials including glass can, in fact, flow slightly" -- isn't this saying that glass could theoretically flow without the need of reaching the transition temperature?
bro mfers mention glass transition temperature like once and boom we have three whole questions about it
@TheBigFatPanda exactly lmao
I think what makes this whole passage so confusing is that we are told that glass flowing downwards is a myth, and then all the questions have something to do with glass actually flowing downwards lol. Still did fine but that's what had me so confused.
@tsandin I agree! But I guess if you read further into the passage it doesn't say 'glass flowing downwards' itself is a myth but that glass flowing downwards is the reason that windows are ripply in old buildings.
WOOOOO WE ARE SO BACK?
Really needed that right answer I was losing faith hahahha
I didn't like "well above" but still went with C because everything else was worse
I got a level 5 question right after getting so much of this passage wrong. There is hope <3
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well above 350 is acceptable since it says upper extremeeeeee.
So incredible frustrating getting both implied questions right on the first try - then second guessing and putting the answer next to the correct one.
I enjoyed the LHB passage way more than this one, that's for sure
@EricT024 I liked this stimulus better. And the questions were even interesting. But the freaking answer choices were impossible! I definitely preferred the answer choices from the LHB stimulus.
.12 faster and the curve is the cherry on top
#feedback Would you guys consider adding a word search feature like the LSAC has on LawHub? The LSAT has that feature and I feel like it would help me speed up my accurate answers.
If it helps at all the Command F (Mac) or Control F (Windows) search bar works to sort of accomplish the same thing.
This is on the list of features that should eventually make it to 7Sage's new version of the website. Unfortunately it won't be added to this version of the website.
So this is the second implied question we're getting for this passage. I'm curious to know if anybody else got the first implied question for this passage wrong (lesson 21 for me), but then went on to get this second implied question right. I got the first implied question for this passage wrong (though I very nearly went with the correct answer). I got the question in this lesson right but I'm doubtful as to whether or not I would've been able to do that had I not gotten that previous implied question wrong—while attempting this question I recalled that the correct answer in lesson 21 was similar to (D) in this lesson's question. I also recalled why (D) was correct in that previous lesson. I don't know if I would've been able to cross (D) as easily here without knowing and understanding that. I was struggling to eliminate answer choices on this questions for a solid minute—I was struggling between (C), (D), and (E). Once I was able to cross (D) it was easy to pick between (C) and (E).
I'm in the same boat. I got the first one wrong, and I got this one right. I think they were both difficult, but the answer wording on this one is less confusing, I guess?