This is my reminder that I need to slow down and question stem carefully. I diagrammed this correctly but answered opposite of what the stem was asking smh
I didn't use DeMorgan's law and still got the answer right. I just read the stimulus very carefully. I diagrammed a more simplified version of yours and still understood the right answer. I slowed down when it came to the answer choices to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
Learning the question types and doing them over and over again will help me get faster. But right now I just want to make sure I'm applying the fundamentals correctly.
I'm sure I'll need to come back to the fundamentals later and really ingrain them within me once I understand their application on the test.
Wait, how can you throw out the rule that "not just for its value as an investment" when they clearly make reference to that in (B), "not sure that the vase will appreciate much in value." All this because you can conflate "desirable for its intrinsic qualities" with "value as an investment." I know its not the right answer either way but this is junk advice is it not?
Ended up focusing too much on the "not just for its value as an investment" part and fitting it into lawgic on my first try but then got it right on the blind review.
I got it right but I don't find myself using even most of the rules we're learning. Any pressure makes those go out the window for me and just rely on my base instincts and lawgic
Finally got one right in a solid time (+4sec). All of the lessons from this unit have to be drilled into the subconscious to become second nature. just pay attention to the conjunctions and/or disjunctions and these become much easier. The answer will always follow logically to exactly what is being said in the stimulus.
i originally selected E, second-guessed and mistook the "not just" as necessary, selected C, did blind review and realized that E was originally correct. sigh. next time i should trust myself.
After looking at this again at a better time (not 4am...) I think I see where I got held up. It's the condition of "JUST" for its value as an investment. When I read this prompt, I internalized it as "if it is valued as an investment, you shouldn't buy it," which can't be as neatly categorized as essentially identical to the second premise.
That being said... I'm really not getting how E is notably more stand-out as the answer here. Our conclusion is that she should NOT buy the vase. Looking at this...
"While Matilde likes the color and features of the vase, its particular style has frequently been reproduced for the mass market, and the vase cannot be examined closely or authenticated over the Internet."
Okay, so she likes the colors and features of the vase, therefore she likes it for its intrinsic qualities. That's a point for "should" buy it. Necessarily, following the logic in the video, she must then NOT just value it for an investment... another reason she should buy it, or at least a subset of that same reason. The only thing E states that could be against it is that it can't be authenticated over the internet. As the answer explanation states, there's still a fairly reasonable argument to be made that there are other methods by which she could authenticate the vase, which only in the most generous interpretation means there's one reason she shouldn't buy it and two reasons she should.
Considering this, I don't see how B is not at least equivalent in validity. Does the seller's insistence that they will take the vase back if Matilda cannot authenticate it not an indicator that she may have some concerns about doing so? Is the only mention of the vase's qualities being its value as an investment not an implication towards what is important about it to her? This reads to me like there's at least two points of concern about the vase. I know the question just asks for MOST helps, but I am really struggling to see why E is the most valid one here.
I got it right and didn't do too bad with time, but I did basically forget everything from this module lol. I just scribbled symbols that made sense to me that were essentially renditions of all of the rules we have learned so maybe it might be beneficial to really make the rules your own and manipulate them so they make the most sense to you
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man i just keep getting these questions wrong, does that mean I need to likely restart the unit to better understand the concepts?
Answered correctly but took 3:42 minutes. Not sure if at this point I should be as worried about my speed.
This is my reminder that I need to slow down and question stem carefully. I diagrammed this correctly but answered opposite of what the stem was asking smh
I didn't use DeMorgan's law and still got the answer right. I just read the stimulus very carefully. I diagrammed a more simplified version of yours and still understood the right answer. I slowed down when it came to the answer choices to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
Learning the question types and doing them over and over again will help me get faster. But right now I just want to make sure I'm applying the fundamentals correctly.
I'm sure I'll need to come back to the fundamentals later and really ingrain them within me once I understand their application on the test.
I applied my logic backwards and picked the answer choice that presented the most evidence that she should actually grab the piece
Wait, how can you throw out the rule that "not just for its value as an investment" when they clearly make reference to that in (B), "not sure that the vase will appreciate much in value." All this because you can conflate "desirable for its intrinsic qualities" with "value as an investment." I know its not the right answer either way but this is junk advice is it not?
Ended up focusing too much on the "not just for its value as an investment" part and fitting it into lawgic on my first try but then got it right on the blind review.
I got it right but I don't find myself using even most of the rules we're learning. Any pressure makes those go out the window for me and just rely on my base instincts and lawgic
anyone else feeling incredibly low after these try it yourself qustions?
E was my second choice and this isnt the first time. Just feeling very down after some of these.
i confused the sufficient and necessary cause i didn't see the only if at first and still got it right lol, anyone else?
dang this question took me 1 HOUR and I got it wrong!!!! what will I do!!!
Finally got one right in a solid time (+4sec). All of the lessons from this unit have to be drilled into the subconscious to become second nature. just pay attention to the conjunctions and/or disjunctions and these become much easier. The answer will always follow logically to exactly what is being said in the stimulus.
Initially arrived at C because I did not take into account the application and what it actually meant by the time I got into the answer choices.
Man, keep getting them right but going too slow. Hope practice makes perfect
i originally selected E, second-guessed and mistook the "not just" as necessary, selected C, did blind review and realized that E was originally correct. sigh. next time i should trust myself.
After looking at this again at a better time (not 4am...) I think I see where I got held up. It's the condition of "JUST" for its value as an investment. When I read this prompt, I internalized it as "if it is valued as an investment, you shouldn't buy it," which can't be as neatly categorized as essentially identical to the second premise.
That being said... I'm really not getting how E is notably more stand-out as the answer here. Our conclusion is that she should NOT buy the vase. Looking at this...
"While Matilde likes the color and features of the vase, its particular style has frequently been reproduced for the mass market, and the vase cannot be examined closely or authenticated over the Internet."
Okay, so she likes the colors and features of the vase, therefore she likes it for its intrinsic qualities. That's a point for "should" buy it. Necessarily, following the logic in the video, she must then NOT just value it for an investment... another reason she should buy it, or at least a subset of that same reason. The only thing E states that could be against it is that it can't be authenticated over the internet. As the answer explanation states, there's still a fairly reasonable argument to be made that there are other methods by which she could authenticate the vase, which only in the most generous interpretation means there's one reason she shouldn't buy it and two reasons she should.
Considering this, I don't see how B is not at least equivalent in validity. Does the seller's insistence that they will take the vase back if Matilda cannot authenticate it not an indicator that she may have some concerns about doing so? Is the only mention of the vase's qualities being its value as an investment not an implication towards what is important about it to her? This reads to me like there's at least two points of concern about the vase. I know the question just asks for MOST helps, but I am really struggling to see why E is the most valid one here.
the wording of the question confused me :'( I thought it was asking what would support the principle so that she can buy the vase. Sigh
Spent 4 minutes and got it wrong... i've been doing this stuff for like 5 hours today aaaa
Tell me why I didn't think you could have 3 NAs....
I got it right and didn't do too bad with time, but I did basically forget everything from this module lol. I just scribbled symbols that made sense to me that were essentially renditions of all of the rules we have learned so maybe it might be beneficial to really make the rules your own and manipulate them so they make the most sense to you
i have never felt so stupid in my life lol
i read it as SHOULD and not should not omg
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I got it right, but it took me 7 Minutes.