It helped me to understand #5 by adding the [bracketed] words below:
At least 59 percent of households maintained a lower indoor temperature [this year] than they had been accustomed to maintain on very cold days [last year].
"things" being compared: indoor temperature [this year] vs. indoor temperature [last year]
#feedback please bring back the text answers for those who either want to read or watch the videos. I think the videos are helpful for if you need context/a detailed explanation on each answer, but I appreciate the text answers as well.
This is along the right lines. The direct translation is indoor temperature on not very cold days v. indoor temperature on very cold days. We can infer that "not very cold days" are automatically warmer days and thus could be hot days.
I watched the video and stared at #5 for 10 minutes and I still dont understand how they got the correct answer. Just gonna skip that for now and pray thats not important lol
#feedback For question 5, I think a more accurate answer would be "what they had been accustomed to maintaining" vs. "what they ended up maintaining." The answer you stated ("now') is confusing as the question does not imply that the 59% maintained a lower temperature right now. Why can't it be about a past event?
So I would switch the answer if I was you guys to avoid confusing the viewer.
At least one of these skill builders should be placed between the lessons to cement the few skills learned and to not bunch up the skill practice like it is currently situated.
Although someone from the staff should be coming through and looking at these I think, here is the reasoning:
When we are looking at the sentence "At least 59 percent of households maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain on very cold days," we must look at what is on either side of the "than," and we will find that what we are looking at, as JY said in the video, is that one side of this comparison "equation" is the "had< been accustomed to"
Additionally, we are going to cut out part of this sentence to focus on what really matters here, since we are looking at only the comparison and NOT the modifiers of the sentence nor the context.
Sort-of-context: At least 59 percent of households
Modifier of "accustomed to maintain" (when did they maintain this temp.?): on very cold days.
Cut it out; forget about it for now.
So, for our further analysis of this comparison, we are only looking at this section of the sentence: "maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain"
What this phrase of had been accustomed to gives us two things: what people had been accustomed to and--our assumption (remember there can be assumptions in these)--what they might be accustomed to now
Accustomed to before v. accustomed to now.
Now that we have all that set up, let's just look at what "characteristic" or "quality" is being compared here. What is the comparison word in this sentence? Look at it for a second. See if you can get this yourself, because even as I was working through this, it was stumping me. ...
“maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain”
Surprise, it's justLOWER
So, what is lower? Who would be the "winner" here if we were looking at what is lower between before and now. Well, it's simple. The passage is telling us that NOW is lower, because they were accustomed to a HIGHER temperature in a previous time because it says "than they had been accustomed to"
Hopefully, this is not overly verbose and can make sense when completely broken down like this. It helped me to understand this by explaining it. Take care!
Thank you! This is an excellent explanation and I understand why "now" was chosen. The key word is truly "had" as the word introduces time and implies "now". This serves as a reminder to once again to review the choice of words in a statement more thoroughly.
Originally, I decided on "not very cold days" versus "very coldy days." Outside of this, I reached the same answers for the rest of the process.
Hello :) I really wish our answers in the text box were saved; it would be great to go back and reflect on how our answers and logical thinking/ breakdown have changed/developed! Just a suggestion :)
“Accustomed to maintain” is habit-language. Habits are usually compared within the same situation unless the sentence tells you the situation changed. Pair that with “on very cold days,” and it strongly suggests: when it’s very cold, they used to keep it at X, now they keep it at Y, and Y is lower.
Grammatically, “on very cold days” lives inside the comparison clause (“accustomed to maintain”), not inside the main clause (“maintained a lower temperature”). So, strictly speaking, the sentence explicitly tells you the baseline is “what they were accustomed to on very cold days” (vs what they were not accustomed to on very cold days).
#5 literally short circuited my brain comforting to know I'm not alone! inference comparisons really though how can you assume now v accustomed rather than accustomed v not accustomed? or accustomed v outliner ??
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#5 killed my family members
That last question definitely made me stop and question my intelligence haha
5 is wild.
thats for the 180 gang.
It was going good until question 5 lol
the 5th one is diabolical
@SusanLeifker my brain still can't comprehend it.
@KeziaH19 For me it clicked once I focused more on "than"
number 5 doing too much
It helped me to understand #5 by adding the [bracketed] words below:
At least 59 percent of households maintained a lower indoor temperature [this year] than they had been accustomed to maintain on very cold days [last year].
"things" being compared: indoor temperature [this year] vs. indoor temperature [last year]
"quality" being compared: which temp was lower?
"winner": indoor temp [this year]
5th one violates Genva convention.
I was gaining my confidence again and then Q5 had to ruin my streak
@CamilleChmuraSame here!
Gonna take 5 after number 5
#feedback please bring back the text answers for those who either want to read or watch the videos. I think the videos are helpful for if you need context/a detailed explanation on each answer, but I appreciate the text answers as well.
#feedback I agree with this! I think the text explanations are better for me as well.
Noted. We'll add text to these.
I knew before looking at comments that my boy JohnThomas2007 got them all
@HeedongLee He always does man.
am I the only one who thought question 5 was impossible?
When I read it I thought it was comparing hot days v. cold days.
it did catch me off guard
Idk why I thought it was comparing higher vs. lower indoor temperatures.
This is along the right lines. The direct translation is indoor temperature on not very cold days v. indoor temperature on very cold days. We can infer that "not very cold days" are automatically warmer days and thus could be hot days.
You are not alone! I thought the same thing lol
#5 is lowkey diabolical if u got that ur done
@jamandaa lollll
I watched the video and stared at #5 for 10 minutes and I still dont understand how they got the correct answer. Just gonna skip that for now and pray thats not important lol
@bmo562 lmaooo same
#feedback For question 5, I think a more accurate answer would be "what they had been accustomed to maintaining" vs. "what they ended up maintaining." The answer you stated ("now') is confusing as the question does not imply that the 59% maintained a lower temperature right now. Why can't it be about a past event?
So I would switch the answer if I was you guys to avoid confusing the viewer.
At least one of these skill builders should be placed between the lessons to cement the few skills learned and to not bunch up the skill practice like it is currently situated.
Agreed #feedback
For q5, can anyone explain?
I have the feeling that the comparison can be implied between "very cold days" vs "not very cold days".
So, when answering the question I was thinking:
1. things being compared - "very cold days" vs "not very cold days".
2. quality being compared - indoor temperature
3. winner - "very cold days" (bc lower temp on other days).
Why is this reasoning incorrect?
I came up with the same thing.
We share the exact same sentiments!! :(
Although someone from the staff should be coming through and looking at these I think, here is the reasoning:
When we are looking at the sentence "At least 59 percent of households maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain on very cold days," we must look at what is on either side of the "than," and we will find that what we are looking at, as JY said in the video, is that one side of this comparison "equation" is the "had< been accustomed to"
Additionally, we are going to cut out part of this sentence to focus on what really matters here, since we are looking at only the comparison and NOT the modifiers of the sentence nor the context.
Sort-of-context: At least 59 percent of households
Modifier of "accustomed to maintain" (when did they maintain this temp.?): on very cold days.
Cut it out; forget about it for now.
So, for our further analysis of this comparison, we are only looking at this section of the sentence: "maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain"
What this phrase of had been accustomed to gives us two things: what people had been accustomed to and--our assumption (remember there can be assumptions in these)--what they might be accustomed to now
Accustomed to before v. accustomed to now.
Now that we have all that set up, let's just look at what "characteristic" or "quality" is being compared here. What is the comparison word in this sentence? Look at it for a second. See if you can get this yourself, because even as I was working through this, it was stumping me. ...
“maintained a lower indoor temperature than they had been accustomed to maintain”
Surprise, it's just LOWER
So, what is lower? Who would be the "winner" here if we were looking at what is lower between before and now. Well, it's simple. The passage is telling us that NOW is lower, because they were accustomed to a HIGHER temperature in a previous time because it says "than they had been accustomed to"
Hopefully, this is not overly verbose and can make sense when completely broken down like this. It helped me to understand this by explaining it. Take care!
I got the same conclusion ugh
I had the exact same conclusion on this one and the more I try to make sense of the explanation in the video the more my head hurts.
I got this too :/
Hey there. I have an explanation here to the original post that you might want to see!
Btw, if anyone wants to create a study group, let me know! :)
Hey there. I have an explanation here to the original post that you might want to see!
Btw, if anyone wants to create a study group, let me know! :)
Hey there. I have an explanation here to the original post that you might want to see!
Btw, if anyone wants to create a study group, let me know! :)
Hey there. I have an explanation here to the original post that you might want to see!
Btw, if anyone wants to create a study group, let me know! :)
Hey there. I have an explanation here to the original post that you might want to see!
Btw, if anyone wants to create a study group, let me know! :)
Thank you! This is an excellent explanation and I understand why "now" was chosen. The key word is truly "had" as the word introduces time and implies "now". This serves as a reminder to once again to review the choice of words in a statement more thoroughly.
Originally, I decided on "not very cold days" versus "very coldy days." Outside of this, I reached the same answers for the rest of the process.
Hello :) I really wish our answers in the text box were saved; it would be great to go back and reflect on how our answers and logical thinking/ breakdown have changed/developed! Just a suggestion :)
“Accustomed to maintain” is habit-language. Habits are usually compared within the same situation unless the sentence tells you the situation changed. Pair that with “on very cold days,” and it strongly suggests: when it’s very cold, they used to keep it at X, now they keep it at Y, and Y is lower.
Grammatically, “on very cold days” lives inside the comparison clause (“accustomed to maintain”), not inside the main clause (“maintained a lower temperature”). So, strictly speaking, the sentence explicitly tells you the baseline is “what they were accustomed to on very cold days” (vs what they were not accustomed to on very cold days).
@dvee Good to know, thank you
Even if a sentence doesn't say "now" or "before," words like "accustomed to" imply a past standard.
Number 5 confuses me
@sapalmeri Same
@SamanthaFinjap Same, I really wanted to compare very cold days to not very cold days
#feedback
This should have an answer section so I don't need to watch the video to confirm if I had the sections correct.
#5 literally short circuited my brain comforting to know I'm not alone! inference comparisons really though how can you assume now v accustomed rather than accustomed v not accustomed? or accustomed v outliner ??
The 5th Question Ugh.