I just got an email stating that I was wait listed...in the top school of my choice. I'm extremely ecstatic, but I also do not know how to get my self off the wait list, if it's possible.

The school said that the wait list is unranked...which I'm assuming means that I'm in a pool of applicants that are very similar to me? I'm just glad I'm not rejected, but I don't know where else to go at this point.

This is what the email states:

"we keep an unranked wait list and we will monitor commitments made by our admitted students regularly in the coming months so that you may be informed at the earliest possible time of any offers that we are able to extend to those on our wait list. "

They made me fill out a form that stated I was still interested, but I'm not sure if I need to do an LOCI. What else can I do, should I e-mail them and ask if I should take the June LSAT to improve my score, or if I go visit the law school, is there anyway that they can know...? Should I send an LOCI anyway...?

What are your guys' opinions?

Can anyone offer any anecdotal or empirical evidence on whether adcoms consider your major against your GPA? I've heard it's all GPA and they barely consider what you studied.

I certainly don't mean to offend anyone but it seems absurd for an adcom to equate a 3.8 in chemical engineering with a 3.8 in english. Personally, I finished with a 3.7 in finance from a good Midwestern business school and I'm really hoping the difficulty of my major helps compensate for a low-ish GPA, at least by T14 standards.

Holy cow my anxiety is peaking! Are they all waiting to reject me in one fell swoop? I know I'm just being impatient, but still! Anyone else still waiting on a bunch of schools to get back to them? lol

Now that the Georgetown deadline has passed, what did you guys do for the Top 10, if you chose that optional?

I did my top 10 favorite words and I wrote a little paragraph before explaining my history of loving different words lol I'm not entirely sure if I was supposed to do that, but they did say we could write up to 250 words...

Submitting a LOCI before a waitlist - has anyone ever done this/is this at all advisable? I feel like as I'm still waiting to hear from schools this late in the cycle, it might be good to reiterate my interest in some of the schools for those weighing me hard...

What do you guys think of the new USNWR rankings?

I was thrilled to see Berkeley jump up from #12 to #9 since it's one of my top choices. But I wonder if it'll keep climbing or drop back down next year? And I also wonder how much the rankings will influence employment outcomes, if at all. Thoughts, feelings, insights?

excuse typos. my phone is annoying.

I’m a URM. AA Female.

3.5

“170”

I really want HLS. Maybe Stanford but I don’t wanna go to Cali & Yale is a funny joke with my numbers - but that would be nice too.

I’m confused because when I ask or search forums for people chancing URMs with my combo of numbers & sometimes lower #s closer to 3.2/165, 90% of respondents are like - “ENJOY HARVARD YOU’RE IN THERE FOR SURE!!!!!”

But then the lsn & other online calculator predictors will show the chance of URM with those same #s being in the 20% acceptance range. I get that the generators have smaller samples, usually like 5 applicants & so they get to their 20% with like 3 rejected, 1 waitlist 1 admit. but still.....

The confidence of respondents vs what these #s show makes me complete unsure of what to expect....

I guess I’m asking you guys some questions. So:

Why do people seem to think my #s and AA URM stat is a gimme at Harvard despite LSN & other # generators seeming to show otherwise.

Besides the obvious short answer of “softs” - when we have two applicants, both AA female / URM, both 170, both 3.5 - but one is rejected and the other accepted : what kind of softs are compelling enough? If my numbers ARE fine and it comes down to my softs - what kinds of things will push my borderline #s into being a lock at HLS???

Hi 7sagers, curious what y'alls opinion is on this - at what point is a test taker to be satisfied with where they are at and move on? I know it is in our future lawyers nature to never be satisfied with where we are at and always feel like we need a little more re-tuning. I am a sub 3.0 GPA applicant trying to gain admission to the T14 next cycle, I have a 173 LSAT on the books from December and am trying to decide if I should take another swing at this thing. I went -4LR/-3RC/-2LG, both LG's were rule substitutions..I was usually a -0/1 LG guy so that did bother me.

I'm not applying to the T6, so since I am already 3 or more points above everyone else's 75th LSAT line would a 174 or 175 really even open up more doors for me that a 173 wouldn't? The ( 3.0 / )170 data on myLSN is so scanty that it is hard to know. Also even though I know schools now say it doesn't matter, I have a hard time believing that should I score in the 170-172 range on a re-take that that wouldn't lessen the luster of my 173 at least a little.

When is the point where we have pushed the LSAT boulder as far as it's going to help us, need to accept diminishing returns, and be at peace with it? I hear some people say that 175ish is the last milestone of the test that you can consistently train up to, beyond which you need a little luck of the draw on specific q's, so is this where y'all would place the re-take ceiling?

If I would've scored a 170/171 I would've retaken just to push up a few pts above those 75th lines of the non-T6, but now at a 173 am stuck between feeling like I should just be proud and grateful for what I have achieved, and also thinking well I am only those 2 LG pts away from a 175!

Thanks for any input!

Hi everyone!

I had a question about the application process. So I had to be a full-time student throughout my junior and currently my senior years of undergrad (taking 18-20 credits each semester to help recover my GPA) as I was placed on academic probation my sophomore year due to being a biochemistry major and failing my math and science classes. Because of this, I have not had any time to devote to a professional/significant job to put on my resume (aside from working part-time as a teacher's assistant for a few months before quitting to focus on school). So that being said, how important is work experience (or lack thereof) in law school applications? Is it a deal-breaker for admission officers? I plan on applying to mainly NYC schools (Fordham, Cardozo, St. John's, Brooklyn, etc.) if that helps.

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I'm late to the game and didn't apply before I took my February LSAT because I wasn't sure if I was capable. I was pleasantly surprised with a162 but now I'm wondering if I'll really have to wait another year and a half before I can officially start law school since I missed the deadlines for this fall.

It seems like there aren't many schools that offer spring starts. I tried to find a comprehensive list but the last one was made by Powerscore earlier this decade. I'm looking particularly for T30 or T50 schools but I was hoping to get some information here before I sifted through each one individually.

Thank you! :)

I am unsure where to apply. Here are my stats:

GPA: 3.65

LSAT: 165

Jobs/Internships: ACLU, 3 years at a law firm during college, congressional campaign, Los Angeles Museum of the Holocaust

College: UCLA

Have a great letter of rec from a sitting congressman and a few from professors. Where should I apply?

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Came across this profile on LSN today. A person who was a splitter and applied very end of January and decided to wait and re-apply early (September) the next cycle. Says in his comments that he didn't re-write his PS or submit different LORs. Basically, the exact same app.

Granted, every cycle is a bit different and splitter cycles can always be unpredictable. But super interesting to see the results from a late app to an early app, with the exact same materials.

First cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup

Second cycle: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/4'sup1

Definitely food for thought for me as I'm contemplating re-applying earlier next year.

I know school choice should always be based on the individual person's preferences but I just want to hear some other people's perspectives and if possible, any insight on how to choose a school. I've gotten accepted to Catholic U, American U, and Suffolk. Still waiting on Temple U., Chicago-Kent, Syracuse, Albany, and SUNY (Buffalo). And I'm visiting Suffolk next week.

I have a potential seat deposit due next month and still have not heard from some schools I applied to. Ideally, I'd like to know my standing at each school before submitting a seat deposit.

What's the latest standard date to expect a status notification from law schools or does it vary with each school? Thanks!

With UCI's rise to 21st, and Law.com claiming that uci sent 24 percent of its graduates to v100 law firms, do you guys think UCI will rise in prestige or is it topped out? Seeing that the school only recently formed in 2009 makes me surprised that the school has done so well. I do realize that the first few years had high lsat scorws and gpas and were given substantial scholarships. With increasing class sizes and the departure of Cheriminsky, is UCI's rise sustainable or will it crash like crypto. Or maybe the best is yet to come?

Hi everyone! I need some guidance on choosing between the two. I'm from D.C. and when applying to schools, I chose to only apply to schools around the VA/DC/MD area. After receiving all of my offers and narrowing it down to two, I'm still having a hard time deciding. I was admitted to UVA(#9) with no scholarship and George Mason (#41) with a full ride. I would like to stay in the D.C. area, but I am also very open to looking at jobs anywhere in the U.S. post-graduation. My biggest fear is the debt I will go into if I were to go to UVA. Does anyone know if I were to go into BigLaw, how long it would approximately take to pay off $180K in loans? Do you all think it's worth it? I don't know any lawyers or law students who I could ask that wouldn't have a biased opinion. Even with a biased opinion, I would just like to hear some real honest opinions. Thanks for the help!

Currently a VA resident, so I will get in state tuition from both schools. I am basically a median applicant for both LSAT and GPA for both. GMU gave me some scholarship $ (not much, ~30% of total tuition), and W&M gave me no scholarship offers.

That being said, I visited both and liked W&M more. GMU is currently ranked 41st, and WM is 37th. Is it worth is to push them for some $ to make the decision easier since they are similarly ranked? The worst thing they can say is no right?

Its basically down to these two schools unless a magical fairy decides to grant me admission to Boston College, which is the only app I am still waiting on. Getting some $ from WM would make the decision easy :|

I was put on a wait list, so I sent that school a LOCI about 2 weeks ago; I got an email a couple days ago saying I have been moved and put on Priority Waitlist. But what is the difference between Priority Waitlist and regular wait list?

Also, how do often should I follow up with the school so I can improve my chance of getting accepted?

Should I send a "Why X School" essay or another LOCI in the next 3 weeks or so?

Any advice on how I can follow up with the school so they don't forget about me, and I don't seem like a stalker?

Thanks so much.

If University of Michigan is still alive in your cycle, post here if you get any interesting pieces of information which will help the rest of us make our final decision.

I've been noticing a bunch of Michigan love in the comments across 7sage and I'll admit I might be noticing it because I'm leaning Michigan right now with my offers as they are.

I'm also planning on attending the first ASW and will post any interesting things I find out then here.

To be considered for merit-based scholarships, admitted students at UW must complete a 500 word max scholarship essay. Here is the prompt: "Please submit an essay that describes how you strive to be a leader in the community and what contributions you plan to make at the University of Washington School of Law. You may also provide information about past meaningful achievements, special attributes, and any personal or family circumstances that contribute to your financial need."

Does anyone have any advice for this essay?

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Hey guys!

I'm sending out my feelers for everybody's wisdom. Obviously, scoring well on the LSAT is a great way to receive scholarship offers.

However, I want more resources for scholarship opportunities. Let's assume that my LSAT is good enough to get accepted to a school, but not good enough to receive a financial offer. Does anybody have good resources for general scholarships, or scholarships that are geared towards a specific school or area of the law? I'd like my law degree to be focused in business, corporate, real estate, or contract law.

Thanks for everybody's input! It's been about 8 years since I've applied to a school, so I'm a little rusty on where to find these money tree seeds.

So, it's a school I'm not really planning to enroll in but I was offered a scholarship at a local school that has a stipulation. I know obviously, non-conditional scholarships are the way to go. And if I went here, I'd probably ask them to take it off. But I was curious because as far as stipulations go, it seemed pretty generous. The only condition is that I would need to remain in the top 75% of my class. Meaning simply, not be in the bottom 25%. What do you guys think? Would you be willing to agree to that?

I'm 80% sure I'm going on exchange to the University of Manchester in the fall. I was looking at their grading scale, and they grade on a 0-100% score range, with 70%+ being considered Class 1 (see here: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/international/study-abroad-programmes/non-eu/course-units/grading-scale/)

I'm not sure how these grades will affect my LSAC GPA calculation, as I'm also converting from a 4.33 Canadian scale.

My questions are as follows:

Thanks so much!