Hi everyone, so I’ve been waitlisted to 2 schools and wanted to shoot my shot by taking the February lsat. However, I did not do better than my November score. I think there were various factors - do people have any experience in this/think I should try to explain to schools or even tell them?

Thank you! And I appreciate any advice.

Hi, hope all are doing very well (3(/p)

I already sent my apps in. For health reasons, I have been unemployed since graduating in 2019. Apart from recovering, I have spent time furthering my education. I wrote an addendum explaining this in my applications and have thankfully been admitted to several law schools already, so I don't believe this has automatically made me unappealing to any law school. I also graduated summa cum laude from an Ivy League, got a 171, and did a lot of extracurriculars and worked part time in undergrad.

I recently got a part-time internship writing articles for a legal firm's website. I just wanted something that would expose me to legal research and writing for the few months before law schools begins. I had a hard time finding full-time jobs that would take me on for such a short time commitment and let me work remotely.

Is this something worth updating law schools that I have not heard from yet? I am also currently waitlisted at 3 schools. Should I update them too?

Also, how should I update them? By sending an updated résumé (which will be mostly identical to the one they already have) or sending an email?

Thank you so much.

I recognize that stats are the most important consideration for any law school, but do you feel it's important to have 'professional' job experience?

Context: I've been working in outdoor retail for 2+ years now, and I'm wondering if I should pick up some sort of extracurricular to strengthen my application, or simply find a new job. I don't think it'll necessarily harm my chances, but will admissions officers likely be unimpressed with my current work?

For those of you who are signed up for another LSAT in hopes to get off a school's waitlist, are you taking the April or June one?

I am registered for April but it seems so soon and I am worried I won't have a drastic enough of a score change. Would love to have some wisdom shed on this topic because I know some schools like Georgetown start reviewing waitlist students in the spring while many also do summer. Thanks in advance!

Should I go with FSU law which has Tution that will cost me on average 27k a year after scholarship

Or should I go with SMU law which will cost me 43 k a year after scholarship ?

CAS UGPA: 3.68

LSAT: 172

Schools:

UPenn

NYU

Georgetown

Duke

Northwestern

UVa

Michigan (in-state; undergrad school)

WashU

Strong and unique softs (3 years working in DC working on a niche policy issue by the time I matriculate, lots of publications)

I think I could get a 174+ if I retook it in June/August but is it worth the extra studying time and the cost of the test and of more prep?

When colleges ask "Has your education in college, university, or professional school been interrupted for one term or more for any reason?" what exactly do they mean? I received my bachelors degree in september and won't be starting school again until / if I am accepted for law school this fall. Does this count as a break/interruption? Or do they only mean a break/interruption as in someone taking time off whilst in the process of getting a degree? Thanks !!

I know that 7Sage offers several different admissions packages, but I'm not sure what I need right now. I was hoping to be able to chat with an admissions consultant and get some insight into my situation, (I am a nontraditional applicant.) I'm not sure how this works.... do consultants on here have an hourly rate, or is there someone who would be willing to chat with me and answer a few questions? I've been reading on here how competitive law school admissions are getting, and I'd greatly appreciate some feedback on my soft qualifications.

Thanks!

So there are few recent articles (law.com, above the law) remarking that this is shaping up to be the most competitive LSAT cycle in the last 20 years. Any thoughts on what is driving that trend on the impact it has on this year's applicants?

Hey folks, I got into a law school, a fairly good one (top 50) without taking the LSAT (some schools have an LSAT exemption policy). The cost is also not really a relevant discussion here. My question: do I take the opportunity and go or do I take the LSAT and risk it? Right now I am testing in the low 160s and have never scored higher than a 163. Thoughts?

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Looking for some hope.. with these numbers do I have a chance of getting into law school?

Hi Yall,

I just got my first offer and its from Indiana with a pretty good scholarship offer(over 40K) but the package is renewable contingent upon me maintaining a 2.3 GPA or higher. Is this the infamous Conditional Scholarship that I heard so much about in various forums and recruitment events or is this a regular condition that comes with all scholarship?

I heard that schools might put all their conditional scholarship students in one session like some sort of scholarship hunger game to save them some money but it is also my understanding that most law school curve their grades toward around 3.0-3.2 range(could totally be wrong, this is just me guessing), so a 2.3 GPA does not seem that outrageous to me. My thinking is if I get a 2.3 or lower I'll probably drop out anyway since the job prospect is pretty bleak for the bottom third of a non-T14 school students.

So should I go back and argue for the admission staff to take the condition off my scholarship offer or should I not worry about it?

It seems that one's chances are lower as a non-citizen international student. Part of this might be because law schools worry that non-citizens need sponsorship to work after graduation. Does anyone have experience applying as a lawful permanent resident/green card holder (who is eligible for citizenship in a few years)?

I assume this status eliminates the concern that one might not be able to get a job in the U.S. after graduation/clerk. Can anyone speak to whether LPR/green card holders are treated the same as US citizens in the eyes of the top law schools?

Hi there - I am applying this year’s cycle for entry in 2022, and just trying to get ahead of all materials needed for when the applications open. Does anyone have any suggestions or guidance on when is best to start asking your connections for letters of rec? I was thinking May/June if I want to apply early in the cycle (ie close to when apps open).Any thoughts?

Hola all I'm Mark I got a 169 in October and had around 20 apps ready to fire away as soon as I got my test results back. I'd like to share my results so far as well as some waitlist management advice. I've been obsessing about getting off the waitlist and have done a ludicrous amount of research (research sounds better than obsession).

I am what the Dean of admissions at Yale called a "super soft" aka military veteran and my ugpa was 3.42 which is notably low for t14.

Accepted with scholarship: Uga, Emory, Notre Dame

Denied: Harvard, Chicago, Cornell, Berkeley

Waitlist: UCLA, Georgetown, Northwestern, Penn, Michigan

My top choice is Northwestern and I'm doing everything in my control to get off their waitlist. Ultimately it will come down to how their class looks after their first and second deposit deadlines and what they class needs in terms of student demographic composition, and what the school's/Dean's goals are for that class (based on interviews I've listened to from Deans admissions officers etc).

Here is my waitlist advice I've gleaned from Harvard and Yale Deans, Michigan ad com officers, Harvard as com person, Michigan person, + my personal interactions with adcom.

Waitlist: do whatever the school asks in their waitlist email. Every 3-4 weeks and especially just after/before their deposit deadline write a letter of continued interest loci. You can print and handsign then upload as a PDF. Some schools don't care about loci format others may. In loci you can specify certain clinics, work programs, professors, courses that you're interested in. It really looks good if those are linked to a topic you expressed interest in in a PS or resume. Show how you love the city / want to live in the school's area. If you have a specific reason you like the school mention it. If it's your #1 pick and you would attend no matter what, say so. Be careful mentioning other competing offers - comes off as threat.

That's not exhaustive but it's a pretty good start. Best of luck!

For those interested in an extra data point, here was my cycle. nURM, average applicant, 16high 3.6low.

ASU- $$+

Fordham- $$+

GULC- dong

Cornell- dong

USC- WL

BU- WL

NDLS- WL

UT- WL

UMN- $$$

UF- $$$+

WUSTL- WL

UGA- $$$

Boulder- $$

I'm withdrawing all my applications.

To be honest, I was in a hurry to become a white-collar working professional and make a respectable salary. Not everyone (least of all the KJDs with zero experience in the labor force) would want to work in a law office 40+ hours a week, which is why I recommend taking a gap year to test the waters. Imagine doing something you hate AND having 6-figure debt to your name :( it doesn't have to be that way. There are many other professions that pay better than law, have better work environments and have serious shortages of smart, driven candidates who can get the job done. It's never too late to make that change (not in my experience, at least).

I wish you all the best!!!

I recently asked one more professor to write me a letter of recommendation. She wrote and sent it to me around mid Feb. If I plan to apply for admissions again this Oct/Nov, will it be okay to reuse the letter of recommendation without needing to ask to reuse?

Some accidents happened to my CAS Report and it probably will not be complete until mid-April. I am thinking about 1) just not do anything and see what may happen in the end, maybe some schools still want me (but probably not my dream schools) 2) withdraw my applications and apply early next cycle

The reason why I am considering option 2 is because I am worried I may need to rewrite my app materials all over again, most of which I just finished in January and the next cycle is just half a year away. Let's say if admissions offices read my app this May, my stories will become a "recent old news" for them in Sept. Is my worry justified? And if I withdraw, am I a reapplicant next cycle?

Thanks!

I hope everyone is keeping their heads up in these times.

I got waitlisted and would like to send an updated resume. Since I finished the LSAT, I have been learning the Russian language. I know Arabic, Hebrew and conversational Spanish and I chose Russian because I love the language and have always wanted to learn it. I also know that being a multi-lingual lawyer can only be a competitive plus. Does anyone know how I can go about sending an 'updated resume'?

This is what I have so far but it feels so bland. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you everyone.

Dear Admissions Committee,

Thank you for reviewing my application for admission to XX School of Law. Since completing the LSAT, I have been teaching myself the Russian language. A multi-lingual lawyer is indispensable and learning Russian can only open more doors of opportunity for myself and put me at a competitive edge.

Furthermore, I would like to express my continued interest in the school of law.

Sincerely,

XX

Deciding between FSU and SMU

Which school should I pick??

hi - so I took the january lsat and my score was OK, but at the low end of my 10point spectrum. so I applied to my first choice regional school and just received their decision yesterday. I'm in, and have a 50% merit scholarship. I'm above their 75%s on lsat and gpa. BUT, I am trying to get as close to 100% merit, as I'm paying out of pocket (no govt loans). I've been planning to take the june test just to finish with a bigger score (even if I had gotten a 100% - - I really love this test). When I took the test in january I started to have covid symptoms the day before my test - - a headache that I couldn't get rid of for the actual test - - i ended up with worse mild symptoms a few days later. So, I think I can do better! I've been preptesting better at the least. Another thing is that I found out last weekend that I have to have surgery on my eyes, my vision has been blurry since mid-2020 and now I know why. That may have impacted my january performance, but the surgery might also interfere with june - although I think the recovery time is pretty quick. I'm even wondering if I might qualify for some sort of vision-based accommodation (long shot). Needing a surgery just adds a layer that interferes with the june test (and also why I can't do the april test, besides signups being closed)

Has anyone ever re-applied to a school that accepted them the next cycle? do you think the school will penalize me if I do this? I certainly don't want to seem ungrateful for the merit award they offered and I don't want them to hold that against me. I'm also not sure whether I should just pay the seat deposit, take the june test and then try to renegotiate a higher scholarship - although that would be early july and they may have given away all their money? Anyone ever done this? I hate to throw away 'good money' that I could use for textbooks/study aids later on. Thoughts?

I also don't plan to re-apply if my score isn't at least 4 points higher as it would be like resubmitting the same application and hoping for a different outcome. I only applied to this one school and if I do much better, I'm thinking of applying to a couple more, since I think I want to move somewhere new.

thanks everyone! I really appreciate any feedback

At my university a lot of the 3000 level courses are taught by PhD students and those classes happen to be the smallest and where I’ve been able to interact with the instructor the most. But I’m worried that because they are still in the process of completing a degree their letter of rec might be seen as a weakness in my application even it’s a positive recommendation. If anyone has any insight on this that would be really great!

I am already stressed about having professors write me LoR in the fall. My classes are small and my professors know me by my name, but I have never gone to a single office hour for any professor. Since everything is online, I would have to make a zoom appointment to meet with them in "office hour", there are no drop ins. I've always wanted to go to law school, so I'm a history major; how do I ask questions and form relationships with my professors when I don't want to go into the area of study that they are in? If I ask additional questions about the readings, additional materials, aren't they going to know I'm just BS-ing them?

I need some advice. I have missed not one, but TWO informational webinars for the same school. I am incredibly embarrassed and don't know what to say. I don't have any good excuses for registering and not canceling. I just forgot about them.

I feel like if I send them an apology email at this point it is insulting and points to my irresponsible errors even more. I haven't applied yet, but I really like this school.

Do any of you know if these absences will reflect badly on my application once I apply this fall? Should I just toss out this school from my list? Am I being dramatic?

Has anyone else been in a similar situation? I would really appreciate some advice!