Prep tests, problem sets, or the LSAT explanation page aren't working for me when I click on them. When I click on a prep test or a problem set, nothing opens or expands and I can't access any prep test or problem sets. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I've restarted my computer, cleared my cache and used different browsers but the problem still exists for me. I'm on Mac.

Quick one - is Grammarly allowed during the writing section? Can't seem to find any prohibitions on LSACs site or any information on Google.

Does anyone know if taking the LSAT is better than getting the GRE for admissions and scholarships? Or does it not matter? If you are trying to go for PhD/JD is it better to just take the GRE and apply or should you also take the LSAT?

Hello Everyone,

I understand that the new LSAT is only scoring three sections with the 4th section being experimental. My question is, lets say I receive two RC sections, would that mean that one RC section is experimental or could both RC sections be scored and either a LG or LR is experimental? Thank you!

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on getting out of a plateau? Timed PT score is mid-high 150's, BR is usually low 160's. While I'm doing timed PT's, followed by BR and Full Review but I'm not seeing any numerical improvement (however, I do feel like I'm learning something from each test I take). The main sections I struggle with are LR and RC (esp with timing). Is this normal and how do I start seeing an actual improvement in my score? I'm trying to get in the high 160's (at least) for the October LSAT. Thanks all!!

Like many if not most (all?) of you, I heard many times about how the LSAT isn't really useful in law school, just a rough predictor of 1L grades, you just have to do it to get in, etc.

That is a fucking lie.

I've lost count of how many times I've thought or written in my notes this week, "oh, just like the LSAT" particularly when it comes to translating dense material, and critically examining the reasoning behind decisions. Not only is it not irrelevant, I would say a great deal of it is directly applicable. Unless my school is some weird radical outlier (narrator: its not) expect to use the skills you're honing now. Hopefully that motivates you to put the time in and learn this stuff the right way. It'll not only help your score and therefore your admissions outcomes, but also your potential understanding of the material, and ability to examine and destroy hypotheticals and pick apart issues, therefore your test scores, therefore your grades, therefore your job outcomes...

Not that you can't rock law school without having learned this stuff previously, but damn its so much of the same skills. Maybe that we believe these skills don't translate over says more about the type of prep many people/companies push, or why the test seems so difficult to us.

Hi everyone,

My name is Ken Kim. Let me briefly introduce myself. I used to attend Northeastern University School of Pharmacy in Boston then transferred to the University of Utah Asia Campus in Songdo, Incheon. I graduated from the school in 2018 with a bachelor's degree in communication. I, then, enrolled at Johns Hopkins University Advanced Academic Program for my master's degree in communication. I graduated from the said school in 2021 and am currently committed full-time studying for the LSAT while doing a part-time tutoring for international students. I recently moved to Gangnam from Songdo, Incheon and am looking for friends to study with me at Gangnam Station. We can study at the Wing Study Cafe, which is literally right next to Exit 9 of Gangnam Station. The rate for using the study cafe per person is 1,700 KRW for each hour. We can meet up with up to four people due to the government restriction. I am currently doing the game section of the 7Sage CC. Please reply to this thread or send me a DM, and we can immediately get started with studying for the LSAT.

Hey everyone,

I just took my first practice test since my diagnostic and I'm a little disappointed. My diagnostic was a 143 with 150 BR and first PT after finishing the curriculum was a 147 with a 157 BR. Time constraints are really hurting me and I could use some advice on how to be faster/more efficient during the test.

Also, LG under the time constraint absolutely wrecked me (-13 during time constraint with -3 BR). I'm registered for the October exam but now I'm a little hesitant considering I'm a little over a month away from the test date.

Let me know what y'all think!

if anyone wants to study for the LSAT, please let me know.

do you consider the January LSAT too late to apply for that cycle?

Hello dear community,

first of all, besides the high-quality content 7sage provides, I'd like to express my admiration for the positivity among the users on this platform, both in the discussion forum as well as in the comments etc. Definitely healthier to seek out for advice here compared to some other platforms (cough ... reddit ... cough).

My issue can be summarized into the following phrase: I have the suspicion that I am heading to LSAT-burnout.

In March, I quitted my previous job, got a new one in April and pushed my start date back to October in order to invest 5 months in the preparation for my applications for JD/MBA joint degree programs (which included LSAT, essays and some other stuff).

I've invested the vast majority of this time so far in the LSAT, started off with the core curriculum and untimed psets, and have done 16 timed PT's so far (including full review), averaging at 173 (took PT June07, 36, 37, 38, 39, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 80, 79, in that order). In parallel, I aim to read 15-20 articles of The Economist per week to practice understanding passages via the low resolution memory, and elongate & go over an vocab Excel-list consisting meanwhile of 800+ words (since I'm a non-native speaker and RC has been by far my weakest section).

Today I took PT 79, and had to realize that in sections 2-4 my brain was just running on auto-pilot mode, my mind was not 100% inside the test, I felt tired and exhausted. To my surprise, as opposed to the last 4 tests, my RC score wasn't that bad (-2) and that pushed the score up to 175 (seriously, don't ask me how this happened - I'll need to review the test, honestly I thought I totally, totally bombed RC this time). I believe that in the last 5-6 PTs I also felt kind of tired, but today it was really worse... I mean during the last section I even had impetus to just stand up and walk around rather than read even one more LR stimulus. For the last couple days, I also feel slower even when it comes to reviewing tests, and procrastinate a lot more compared to when I started...

I know, the obvious advice would be "take some days off". However, following worries keep me back from this:

I consciously chose to start later at my new firm (thereby creating opportunity costs in form of lost salary) for the LSAT. Therefore, I kind of tend to feel guilty every moment I do not do anything for the LSAT, and other people in my age work full-time.

I already was involved in LSAT prep (by far not full-time though) from September 2019 to April 2020, but did not really take it seriously and just kept burning PTs without reviewing them and without taking a rigorous preparation course. I decided to take these months off and do it correctly this time, and this decision increases the pressure I impose to myself to get a 175+ even more, since not achieving this would be a waste of my time (and maybe kind of an indication that my mental capabilities are simply not enough to get into Harvard, Yale or Stanford Law School).

I am not sure whether it is burnout or problems with sleep. For some time, I've been having issues with falling asleep at night, with the result that I've rarely gained sleep of 7+ hours. Therefore, in case it is sleep issues and not burnout, I'm afraid that this break will be unnecessary and won't do anything to face the potential root-cause of the problem.

As mentioned before, I am a non-native speaker. On top of that, I've never really been intrinsically motivated to read in my leisure time (be it for the sake of it, or in order to learn about what's happening in the world etc.). Therefore, I have the dilemma, in case I do decide to take a break, whether I should keep reading The Economist or not. On the one hand, RC is my weakest section and I feel like I need to improve on it and time is really running against me, therefore, ideally, I would have to utilize every single free second to improve my reading skills in English. On the other hand, investing time in an activity that I do not intrinsically perceive as "fun" would not really fulfill the purpose of taking a break...

That said, I would really appreciate it if you could give some answers to the following questions:

Does the above sound like LSAT burnout?

Have you ever had the above thoughts? If so, how did you cope with them?

What do you think is the best way to get into the routine of a fixed sleeping schedule (e.g. go to bed before midnight and wake up before 8 am)? For some time, I managed to go to bed before or around midnight, fall asleep relatively quickly and wake up at 8.30-9 am, but meanwhile I went back to the vicious cycle of not being able to go to bed before 1 am, staying in bed without being able to fall asleep for at least 2 hours, waking up at 9.30 am, being tired for the rest of the day though paradoxically fully energized at night... and so on. Do you have some tips for breaking that cycle for a longer time period?

Thanks in advance guys! As I said, I really appreciate the positivity of the 7sage community and try to give my advice wherever and whenever I can as well :) Excited to read your comments before going to the final stage of taking PT 82-90.

Hey y’all, I had something really strange happen to me and I’m wondering if this happened to someone else. I faced “connectivity issues” when I took the LSAT flex so I called the LSAC immediately after to request a makeup test that week - an option I only learned existed through this forum (their website says nothing about it). I called again on the makeup test day to ask why my request was denied and I was told on the phone by an LSAC representative that I was ineligible for a makeup because one of the sections on the makeup test was the exact same one I had on the test I took. I thought it was really odd that a makeup test would have a repeated section as this obviously denies some test takers the chance to sit for it should things go awry during the test. Has anyone else been told this by LSAC? What do you know about the eligibility criteria for a makeup test? The lack of transparency is deeply concerning.

Hi everyone, I am seeking some advice on what to approach first in regards to studying for the LSAT. I’m planning on taking the June 2022 LSAT and am start prepping to prep for it.

I bought the Manhattan prep books last year so I’ve been reading the RC , I found RC a bit difficult as I got 2/10 on the short exercises and it was mostly because I looked at the RC’s in a different perspective, although I did have the correct answers underlined. I was planning to enroll in the 7sage ultimate plus for additional support and instructions. However, is there a specific order that I need to study like would LG and LR possible make the RC’s clear? Any suggestions or tips?

Am I only one having trouble to access LR explanation video for early PTs?

Unlike LG and RC, I can't access to LR videos.

I had recently been going about taking PTS but rather untimed to see whether or not I'd be able to decipher the correct answer with the choices provided. On LR using this method I have gone -2 and -1, but I continue to struggle with timing. I possess the same issue with RC buts it way worse as I don't even have time to reach the the questions of the final passage before time expires. Any suggestions to improve on timing in these two sections?

Today was my third time writing the lsat. My previous attempts were around 150 so i completely changed up my studying technique. I was consistently scoring 160-165 all on PT before todays exam but my test anxiety was so high and someone in the office next to me was talking loudly so I feel like i bombed my final attempt. I think this may be the end of my journey to law school as I studied full time for four months and had accommodations and still became highly stressed and blanked during the actual exam.... so frustrating.

Title basically.

Hi, I started at a 142 and am currently PTing between 155-157. Any advice on how to break out of this? My goal is a 165 by October.

I need to definitely work on logic games timing, but any overall tips would be helpful. Or any books/course/tutors!

This is something I wish I could tell my younger self when I first started off studying. When I first started, I had this mindset of "If I study 5 hours a day and do 100 questions... yeah I'll definitely crush this exam." Yeah, I was definitely cocky with that mentality and now I realize how foolish I was back then to think that haha. But the reason for that is much of our exams in college and high school were fueled by this kind of approach. Whether it be a biology exam or history exam, if you memorized a fact, YOU KNOW and can regurgitate that on paper. "What year was the Declaration of Independence signed? Oooh easy, 1776!"

The LSAT is different. It is less a content exam and more of a skills exam. The exam tests very specific skills that, if you hone them well, will serve you extremely well come test day.

For example, in Logical Reasoning, it is all about evaluating the argument. What does it mean to evaluate the argument? It means you have to be able to find the Conclusion, identify the Premises, pause and think about any assumptions being made, and then figuring out why the correct answer is correct while all the others are bad. To be able to do all this quickly is a skill and the most critical skill on the section.

When I started off, I didn't think much about the above and my basis for success came down to how many questions I got right on a problem set. "Yes, I got 4 out of 5 right! I'm ready for this man!" But the I would just keep getting the same low score over and over and over.

The problem was that I may have gotten the correct answer a few times but I never fully understood why nor did I fully integrate the correct processes to be able to get them consistently right.

The best example is shooting a basketball. I was lucky enough to hit a few shots in a row but come game day, I couldn't hit them consistently time and time again. The only way to make this work is to make sure you integrated the correct processes into your brain so that it is seamless. That's why players like Steph Curry no long think when they shoot. They just shoot because the skill is so embedded in them.

That's where you want to be in LSAT prep. It is far more beneficial for you to take the time to figure just what skills the LSAT is testing and then figuring out the methods to consistently practice those skills over and over.

Your goal should not be "I want to finish 50 questions in 3 hours," but rather "Did I understand just these 5 questions and how to correctly approach them next time?" The latter is far more beneficial and will serve you well because the LSAT repeats the same concepts over and over. The same flaws, the same games, the same RC passages come up over and over. If you could to figure out the best way to tackle these problems the first time around and integrate them, you'll be ready to ace them without blinking the next time you see them.

I just finished by Blind Review for PT 69 and got a 162 actual and a 180 on my blind review, something I've never done before. Before that I was averaging around a 160 with a 170/172 BR. I would go over questions I got wrong in depth, watching JY's explanation videos and such until I was sure I understood why the right answer was correct

I am so happy with these improvements because I got a 159 on the June test and I am retaking in October to hopefully hit a 163. I want to stay motivated and continue to see progress.

Should I continue doing timed practice every other day and blind reviewing, or should I include other forms of studying as well? I have 100% free time from now until mid-September. I'm leaning towards timed practice (i.e., practice tests) since clearly my weakness is the timing.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated! thanks so much

I just finished my first ever LSAT and have a rough impression of how I did on each section relative to the others and relative to my usual PT performance on each section type. But will I be able to confirm this impression with more specificity when I get my results? As in, do score reports actually detail the number of questions right/wrong per section? Or do they only report the final overall score out of 180?

I took the august flex this past weekend, it was my second time taking the lsat. I really have no clue how I did but everyone seems to be saying that it was a hard test which is making me nervous. Im worried Im gonna get the same score or worse, but then again I could have done better. The registration due date for October is before scores get released... if I sign up for October but am content with my score can I cancel and get refunded? Or If I want to retake can I take it in November and still apply on time? thanks

Those of you who have managed to study while working full time.. how long did it take you to reach your dream score? any tips/advice on time management/ study schedule?

Hi,

I am a non-native speaker of English. The RC is my weakness. Right now I am -6 to-8 in RC. I am looking for a good tutor.

If anybody wants to join, I created a meeting link below. As the title states it is Monday, August 16th 5:30pm MST, 90 minute session.

meet.google.com/mgo-zmvo-prv

Looking at this forum it seems people want to study with others, but a lot of the meeting links are dead or don't give specific meeting times, therefore I am creating a meeting time. (do you like my conclusion indicator :)

This first session will focus on LR and it will last about 90 minutes. We will do some LR questions so there is nothing to prep for, just show up and participate. I am not a tutor, just someone looking to work on practice problems with others. I am scoring around 154 on PTs so there is plenty for me to work on.

If you can join, cool. If not, all good I will try to do another soon.