Hi all, for those who have already taken the test, do you recommend taking the LSAT Writing Test before the regular test or after? I can see pros and cons to both options!

Hello everyone, I apologize if this has been discussed previously but has there been any word on when 7Sage plans to post explanation videos to the PT's in the title?

Okay, kind of a long post but I am feeling super discouraged after getting October LSAT results and I'm scheduled to take the November test. I feel like I have gotten the absolute worst luck of the draw on LSATs and can't tell if I'm just being dramatic or not.

I've taken 3 LSATs so far, two of them two years ago, then focused on work until a few months ago when I decided to apply again and took the October 2021 LSAT...here's how each one went:

September 2019: aka PT88 and flowers game, a notoriously hard LSAT, and I was okay with my score considering it was a hard test, but I knew it didn't show my potential so I decided to take the November 2019 test.

November 2019: Show up to the test and the proctors never arrive, so our entire test center gets rescheduled BUT we have to do a paper test. I had not practiced on paper at all since all the tests had moved to electronic, so I ended up scoring 4 points lower because you can't see time remaining and I just wasn't used to the timing of filling out the scantron.

October 2021: I originally sat for the test on Saturday when it was interrupted and I waited 2 hours to be told it was going to be rescheduled. The test I originally had was 2 LG sections, which is my strongsuit, and the easier RC section. When I retook the test, I got back to back RC sections with the scored section (Mali and Paternalism) being the second of the two, as well as the Duets logic game.

I got the same score as my Sep 2019 test...

I just feel like all the tests have been stacked against me and it is so frustrating when some tests feel so unfair. I have been PTing in the low 170s but have had awful luck during all of my actual LSATs. Am I just being dramatic?

How do I stay motivated when it just feels like I'll never get a fair test administration?

Hi everyone,

I will be going over the CC for the second time in a much more thorough way. I wanted to know y'all's thoughts on when to incorporate PTs and study groups.

Currently, my average is a 155 (best PT being a 157) so I am going back to reallllly learn the fundamentals again. Being that I have some fundamentals already down, I am not sure if I should be PTing while doing the CC again or if I should wait to PT (and have a study group BRing PTs) until after I finish the CC. I'd appreciate y'all's insight.

Due to technical issues I honestly expected my score to be a heartbreak. Turned out to be a 163.

It still is a heartbreak, in a way, because I had regularly been PT'ing at around 170, my goal score, and my last PT before the test (the morning of the test in fact) was a 173.

I put this partly down to test day nerves but the vast majority down to the extreme anxiety caused by Proctor U. Like many others, I was sitting on my hands for close to an hour due to a 'technical problem' not on my end between the 2nd and 3rd sections.

Still, getting an 84th percentile score even in the worst test conditions possible (at least I hope it could not be worse) has honestly given me a lot of confidence for November, which I am thankful I registered for. I want a 170 and feel better about getting there now. Thanks in big part to 7sage whose materials and guidance was the biggest factor in my score lift by far.

I started studying on September 1st and got a diagnostic score of 148. I have been studying consistently for almost two months with some breaks in between. Last week, I hit 166! I take the LSAT in January and wanted to ask if there is something more I should be doing to prepare for the test or should I just continue to take practice tests? My goal score was 160 so I am having a hard time feeling motivated to continue to study although I know I have to.

I currently got my LSAT score for OCT back and unfortunately it was worse than what my average was. My last PT before the test I scored above my average, so honestly. WTF. Anyway, I love 7sage for LG but would like to know if you guys used additional material for LR or RC. I've used loophole, it's definitely helped, but now I'm thinking of taking January. Please let me know advice for these sections, and what worked for you. Thank you!!

Hi,

I got a 153 on the Oct test and this is NOT reflective of my abilities. I was PT around the low to mid 160s, and the week before the resceduled tests, I was EXHAUSTED. I was getting questions wrong, that I would have not gotten wrong before. I just didn't feel as motivated or like myself. The day of my test, I felt the same way. During the test, I felt like I was not in it, whatsoever! After the test, I knew I didn't do well, my heart and mind were not in it.

Now, I dont know whether I should cancel my score or keep it. Do schools look down on a cancel score, or would it look better to have the lower score and then a higher score?

I am signed up for the November test and I know what I am capable of!!

I have taken the LSAT twice, both times my score was almost 10 points under my practice tests. Very frustrating, very confusing. Practice tests average around 165, but actual test scores are 156 and 157. The articles I read said that students score comparably on the 3 and 4 section test formats. Maybe I was having test anxiety, maybe bad luck? 7sage recently introduced the flex score converter, and now I see that for me, there is a significant difference in my score based on the flex vs pre-covid test format. I'm feeling really frustrated. If the flex score converter had been available sooner, I would've studied differently the past 4 months. I'm trying to decide if I should cancel my 7sage subscription and just take my 157, or if I should focus on reading comprehension and logic games until January. Does anyone know if 7sage will apply monthly subscription fees towards the yearly subscription price? This is getting expensive, and I'm thinking it may be time to just cancel and accept the current score.

I have been studying for a while now (5 months) but have only managed to go up about 8-9 points. I did pretty poorly with my first diagnostic at a 142 and now scoring at roughly 151 (on a good day). Sometimes I score in the 148-150 range but I am just tired, stressed and quite honestly sacrificing too much of my mental health on this test. Should I take this as an indicator that law school might not be right for me. With an average score of 150 I wouldn't be getting into any worthwhile schools anyway. I have a 4.0 GPA while being an honors student but this test has just taken so much from me. I truly feel like giving up. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thank you and good luck to all taking the Nov LSAT.

Does anyone know how to create 5 sections of LRs from different PTs? All I have managed to create is one section with 100 LR questions.

Does anyone know if we can eat/drink in the view of the camera on test day during intermission? Or we must eat/drink away from the camera on test day? What are the snacks that we can bring for test day? I do not see this under FAQ LSAC.

Thank you

is 7sage adding these?

Hi, I am extremely confused on how the LSAT is graded, I've been studying for over a year now and can not figure it out. If one section is "experimental" and is "ungraded" why are we being graded out of all four sections on these prep tests? Is that the same way we'll be graded when taking the actual exam? Im just confused what the purpose of the experimental section is if we get graded on it as well.

Hello 7Sage Community,

If anyone else experienced this problem and found a solution, I'd love to hear it!

If I'm the only one with it, then this is certainly awkward. Please feel free to jump out of this post and help someone with legitimate LSAT questions.

It appears Apple has designed its laptop screens with the express purpose of being magnets for fuzzies floating around the room. I'll clean my screen off before PTing, and then in a few minutes I'm legitimately waging war with my shirt sleeve on the lines of text I'm trying to read. I believe the problem is compounded because I use a dim light setting as well - any smudge or screen fuzz really sticks out. But putting the light on high irritates the hell out of my eyes.

I feel there are strong Napoleon Dynamite (where's my chapstick) vibes coming from this post - but in any case, just putting it out into the ether to see what thoughts are out there.

Happy studying!

Hi everyone!

So I just received notification that my Lawhub subscription will be expiring on October 31. This is not great timing as I'm writing the November LSAT and would only need it for (hopefully) a few more weeks. Is there any other way to renew access to this system rather than paying for the whole year or do I need to just bite the bullet and renew? The only other way I could think of was just using printable versions of the tests for the next few weeks as practice, but maybe I am overlooking something? Any suggestions? My timing is so bad..

I'm taking the test in November and all these discussion posts about proctor interruptions have me increasingly worried about experiencing similar issues on the day of my exam. Anyone care to share some positive experiences to help a fellow LSAT-taker out? Or any tips on how to overcome a proctor issue so it doesn't obliterate my chances of doing well on the test?

Hello,

I just finished the first draft of my PS and DS and am hoping to find somebody to swap with as my next step in the editing process. Please only message me if you're willing to review mine as well and not just take my feedback and run.

Thanks in advance!

I am considered as an URM for a school I'm interested in ED. My projection is my November LSAT will probably be around 152-153 given my current practice tests are around 155.

If do get 152-153, should I do ED or apply for regular pool? Median for school is 160.

If not admitted to ED, the app will be rolled over to regular pool.

Thank you!

Hi all! For some reason, I keep getting MSS questions wrong. I try to look at the ACs and ask myself: Is this supported? But often times, the AC that is correct has a new component that is somehow supported by the stimulus.

Any tips on how I should be approaching these questions? I was doing pretty well on them when I worked on the CC but now I'm slipping during practice tests.

Has anyone done the writing sample for the October 2021 exam this past week? And have you heard back yet from LSAC? I did mine on the 19th (I know I should have done it earlier) and I am wondering if I will get it approved on time for Wednesday. It still says result pending.

I wanted to get some more info on this. Since August, I have heard from all my friends that they scored on the real test roughly 5-10 points less than they are used to scoring on PT’s. My theory is that this is because LSAC is intentionally giving out harder tests in order to keep the scores down since they have so many test takers this year. Are your scores this year reliably lower than your PT’s? Do you think this is because LSAC is giving out harder tests?

So basically I tried to cram for the November LSAT in the last 5-6 weeks because I was impatient and deluded about my capabilities. Now I am pushing the LSAT back to January but the problem is that I'm not sure how to tear down my foundations and start from scratch. I know how to do every type of problem but I'm a master at none, I can do good on certain practice sections depending on if I get the right set of problems but my foundations are shaky so I have no consistency.

Hi all,

Any advice/strategies for when to schedule the test in terms of which day/time on the test weekend? I'm concerned after hearing so many reports of the terrible technical/server issues, especially with the October 2021 test and had wondered if perhaps the server crashed because of so many people taking the test on a particular day of the weekend/time slot. I am taking the November test.

Thanks!

I hate this part of waiting for my score! I know, I know... you can't change it now so you might as well just forget about it and do something else other than think about it. I have test anxiety and always find myself unconsciously going through the questions in my head trying to remember what answer I put down (especially with LG, it's easy to retrospectively analyze your setup and stuff). I'll add up how many questions I could get wrong on each section to still get a decent score and I'll think "maybe I got __ on reading comp." but the truth is: I just. don't. know.

I'm just grateful that I have the 7sage community because it always reminds me that I'm not alone and that self-doubt is very common after taking the LSAT. We only have about 5 days until score release and until then I am trying my hardest to stop replaying the test in my head. Hope everyone is treating themselves kindly!!!!