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Last comment thursday, jul 15 2021

LSAT sections

This might be a really dumb question but I'm really confused. Since August is 4 sections - are they all scored, or only 3? And if so, then its out of 75 and not 101 (roughly), but how do we get our score? Should I be doing "simulate flex" or just keep doing all 4?

Thanks!

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Hello everyone!

I just took the June LSAT Flex yesterday and really don't feel good about it. I know for a fact that I underperformed and my anxiety got the best of me. My first section was LG (which is usually my strongest section) but I was really nervous during the first game to the extent that I had to let it go and then come back at the end to finish it. After LG, I remembered I felt so bad that I was thinking to cancel the score during the exam. I did finish the four games and guessed on 1 question but I just really am not sure how I did.

My RC and LR were average I would say. I definitely could have done better because I was having some trouble concentrating sometimes during the test. I couldn't sleep the night before the exam so that really didn't help lol.

My PT average has been a 168 since April. And my April Flex score was a 164. After my April Flex I actually felt pretty ok but I got a 164. My fear is that if I don't cancel my score it is likely that it will be lower than my April score since I felt much worse than last time. I worry that the drop will not make my application look good.

And lastly, I have already signed up for August so I am retaking it anyway.

Thank you in advance for your insights and help! And congrats to everyone who has finished the test and best of luck to those who haven't taken it : )

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Last comment thursday, jul 15 2021

174! Thank you 7Sage!

I just got back my October LSAT, and received a 174! I honestly am floored, and wanted to thank everyone on the 7Sage team + people on these discussion boards. I pretty much exclusively used 7Sage to study, and have 0 doubt that I would have never been able to perform well on the test without this site and community. Having taken most of the PTs and done the CC, I was helped immeasurably by informative user comments, and by all of JY's absolutely superb (and entertaining) videos.

As an aside, I ended up needing 3 takes and 7 months to finally hit my target (2 high 160s on my first two takes) - if it would be useful for anyone, I'd be happy to type up a much longer post that goes into depth about section strategies/study tips (and feel free to PM about this too).

Thank you 7Sage + JY for the help! Glad to be finished with this test after 3 takes, and to dig into some ice cream!

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I am scoring in the 165-170 range and my BR score shot up by +10 points.

Granted, I did my BR across 2 days, 2 sections each. I was plateauing for a while so I wanted to really sit and get to the root of the problem.

My most inconsistent hence worse performing section is RC. I attempt three passages in total(out of time) and I score around -5 (in total after reasonably guessing in the 4th passage).

I have some trouble of NA, PSA and SA questions which I am thinking could be fixed by drilling.

Games are usually fine, but if I picked up speed-I could check my work for accuracy and close the -2 to -1 gap that happens

sometimes.

My biggest problem that leads to the staggering difference is mental fatigue/lack of focus/losing the ability to be 100% attentive as I reach the end of section 2 or start section 3. While I know meditation and such factors could help, I am also assuming, if it has to do with the fact that I am not moving fast enough/not answering the earlier LR questions fast enough and giving them too much thought thereby wasting mental energy instead of doing a turbo LR start.

I am looking to all of you people for insights and advice.

Thank you.

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I'm a lone LSAT studier and always see people posting on here looking for study buddies or creating very ~exclusive~ high scoring study groups

I'm genuinely interested in what y'all do--taking August LSAT so prob a bit late to join this party but just out of curiosity, if you've ever had a 7sage or reddit study buddy what did you do together? Review exams? Vent about LSAC? Moral support?

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Last comment thursday, jul 15 2021

What to do with PTs

Hi everyone,

Foremost, I appreciate everyone for reading my post. I am wondering what I should do when I am done with the CC. I intend to do every PT. I am wondering what steps I should follow when doing the PTs. For example, do I take a timed test and blind review? Should I compile a wrong question note? Could you please share exact steps you took for approaching each PT?

I know that they are precious, so I don't want to just burn through them. Please help.

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  • One LSAT, within the two-year fee waiver period
  • One score preview, first-time test takers only
  • One CAS subscription
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  • Three Law School Reports
  • Eligibility for the LSAC Fee Waiver Program is based on the U.S. federal poverty guidelines, with different thresholds for independent and dependent candidates. In the past, for example, an independent candidate earning less than or equal to 250% of the federal poverty guidelines, and a dependent candidate earning up to 150% of the poverty guidelines, were eligible for the LSAC fee waiver, provided they met thresholds for cash balances, overall assets, and other requirements.

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    In addition to creating the new tiered system for fee waivers, the LSAC is also increasing the maximum cash balances candidates can have and still qualify for one of the fee waiver tiers. Previously, the limitations on cash balances had prevented some candidates from qualifying for fee waivers.

    The LSAC encourage students to apply for fee waivers at least six months in advance of when they plan to take the LSAT, so they have an opportunity to fully utilize PrepPlus, which is included in the fee waiver packages.

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    Hello everyone, it's ya boi lsat_sus.

    Today marks exactly 1 year since I got on 7sage. I started with a diagnostic of 148 (PT 78), and I remember thinking "fuck that," and began my LSAT process.

    Over the past 11 months, I went through the CC twice, took ~20 PT's, re-took each individual section at least 3 times, and fool-proofed games 1-45. In the end, my average PT score was a 156. Fuck yeah.

    Then I remembered a quote "insanity is doing the same shit over and over when it doesn't fucking work." So I switched my strategy. I listened to the podcasts, and decided to work with a tutor. I looked at my budget and reached out to Mr. Daniel aka @canihazJD. He just gave off hellaaa good vibes and yes, that was the sole basis of my decision - I'm a proud millennial, fuck you boomer (jk).

    This man literally transformed my game. I spewed every single thought that popped into my mind (sorry Daniel) on every single question and he slashed all the useless parts and affirmed the important parts. In such a short time, the CC and explanation videos started making sense. I used to hate when JY says "who cares," but now I love it. It saves me time. "Holy fuck," I said. Those 11 months were not a waste.

    After ~4 weeks of sessions, I am so grateful to have scored a 172 timed, 176 BR. That's almost a 20 point jump. Daniel literally carried me harder than SKT Faker in 2013, and YES.. it's a flex PT.. It's not a real exam.. it's luck.. i'm a 'lil bitch.. but a win's a win and Ima bask in the ambience of my hero's journey. My family's proud, my girl likes it (wink wink), and I just need to execute on the upcoming LSATs.

    LET'S DO THIS BABY! THE LSAT IS SUS AF.

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    Hi! I have been doing older PT (1990s) and I was wondering if I should just focus on more recent ones (2007 -->) . I am planning on writing my test in August. I have read that that later tests are harder but I have been scoring significantly better on those than in older tests. Any recs? or should I study both.

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    Last comment wednesday, jul 14 2021

    Take LSAT 3 times??

    Hi, I'm wondering if there is a negative stigma against taking the LSAT 3 times?

    I just took the June exam and although I didn't feel it was too hard, my nerves got the best of me during LG and I do not think I preformed well.. LG was really the section that I needed to do well on to carry me into my goal score. I am considering signing up for August depending on what my actual score it, and if my score is as low as I am thinking, I will have no choice but to take the exam again.

    My question for you all is this: does it look bad to have three tests on your application? Do law schools look at it negatively if you received two not so great scores? I have been consistently scoring above my goal score for the last 7 weeks of prep. I know I am capable of it, I just need to find a way not to let the nerves in. I was honestly considering cancelling this score, but I read that definitely carries a negative stigma. Any knowledge on this matter would be greatly appreciated!

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    Last comment wednesday, jul 14 2021

    154 to 170+

    Hi everyone, I'm looking to take the October/November exam and am looking for some advice. Is it reasonable to think I could get my score up to at least a 170 on the test by that time? I'm starting from a 154. If it is feasible to be in the 170s by that point, how should I approach studying within that time frame? If it doesn't sound feasible, during which month should I take the test? (For reference I'm going into my junior year of college and will need the score by July 1st)

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    Hi, I've been studying for the January LSAT for a few weeks now, and since my blind diagnostic of 169, I've been plateauing in the 167-169 range on timed prep tests. I've been studying for a couple hours every day (except for a brief recess to travel to my undergrad graduation) and I'm starting to feel dejected about reaching my goal of around 173/174. My errors are spread equally between LR and LG (and are usually the product of overlooking little details, so I've been working on trying to amend that), while my RC scores have been surprisingly good and I'm not particularly concerned about that area. My study methods include reading the LSAT Trainer, the Powerscore LSAT Bibles, watching videos, and taking prep tests every other day and then reviewing my errors. I decided against paid courses/tutoring because of my diagnostic score and the prohibitive costs. Is my goal of the low 170s realistic given the timeframe and my study methods? Does anyone have any tips about strategies to maneuver oneself out of the high-160s zone?

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    I got a 155 on my last practice test with a 170 on my blind review...huge difference I know. Any advice on how to close the gap? This just proves I KNOW the material. I KNOW how to approach the questions. I need help with timing and making sure I can preform my best in the time allotted. Has anyone gone through this and figured out a strategy for turning your BR score into your actual?

    Please help.

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    Last comment tuesday, jul 13 2021

    LSAT help

    Hello All, I am having a very though time with the LSAT. Is there's any book or tutor out there anyone know that can help me, I would appreciate it.

    thank you.

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    Last comment monday, jul 12 2021

    Need Motivation

    So I started off with a diagnostic of 133..rough. Just took another prep test for fun even though I haven't gotten to logic games yet or reading comp, and scored a 138. Seeing that score made me lose major motivation in even trying to go to law school. Any tips on what I can do from here on out to improve? I'm signed up for the October LSAT.

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    Last comment monday, jul 12 2021

    Cancel or keep flex score?

    I just got back my June flex score today (since I delayed completing the writing sample) and am unsure whether to keep or cancel my score. This is my first LSAT take. I got a 156 and while it is within the range of how I've scored leading up to the test, albeit on the very low end, I was hoping to score at least in the low 160s since I have been scoring there, my last two PTs leading up to the June flex were both 163. I will definitely be retaking as I cannot apply with this score, but not sure at this point whether keeping it on file is worse or a cancel is.

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    Last comment monday, jul 12 2021

    Law School Commute

    Would you commute 1.5 hours (3 hours total a day) if you got a 50%-60% ride? Or would you stick to a 20 minute commute for a 30% ride? We have a Chevy volt so gas really isn't a huge issue.

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    If you can achieve mastery when practicing under difficult conditions (i.e., lesser time than allotted), then you can surely excel and feel confident, relaxed, get in the flow when you have beneficial conditions

    Work will always expand to fill the time allotted.

    -Even when I added the extra 50% to my practice, it still took me more than the time allotted (52 minutes.).

    -Scores are fairly consistent unless you're rushing haphazardly. I found that when I reduced my allotted time from 52 min. down to 35 min., I began to receive the same score per section as before.

    Just some things I found helpful!

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    Prior to 7Sage, I used Princeton Review and Khan Academy. Both of these resources did not limit their examples to PT 1-35 like 7Sage did. I've been working my way through the tests but I've found myself remembering portions or even entire sections of a test. Does anybody have any suggestions on what to do when I find myself remembering RC passages or LG sections or LR questions?

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