So most Early Decision deadlines are November 15. And the latest LSAT score you can use for ED is the October 28 test. Now I think many ppl apply to ED because they’re slightly below both medians or some kind of splitter and want an extra boost. I don’t think the result release date for the October 28 LSAT has been made public, but assuming its about 3 weeks after the test date, we’d expect a release date of about November 18, which is after the ED deadline.

So what if someone applied ED by the November 15 deadline, and got their October LSAT score of a 175 back on November 18, and then realized that with that amazing score, there’s absolutely no need to ED anywhere, and that he should just instead apply broadly via regular decisions.

Is there a way to contact the school he originally ED’d to say I no longer want to ED there? Or to change that ED to a RD?

@"David.Busis" Do you have any insight on this? Thank you!

It's hard being a new hire, but this guy seemed to do okay.

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I recently graduated from a somewhat competitive university (top 70 US News ranking, whatever that’s worth) and landed a case assistant/junior paralegal job at a Global 50 BigLaw firm. 3 months in, I can already see why the attrition rates for associates are continuing to rise. The work is pretty soul-crushing, and associates can’t bill for a lot of the work they used to do (clients are refusing to pay for doc review, research, etc.). I could go on, but in short, BigLaw doesn’t seem worth the time and financial commitment of law school. As someone who took all the med school pre reqs, would my time be better spent in medicine? Just for reference, I graduated with a 3.98 GPA in chemistry (top of class) and am PTing at an average of 172, so I think t14 would be fairy attainable.

I'm going through 7Sage's LR videos and I can't help but think these might be a huge waste of time. Video after video of going over questions and J.Y. saying "so what?" to all of the wrong answer choices barely clarifies anything for me. Going over questions doesn't provide me with any additional substance that I wouldn't get from practicing the questions on my own. I make more progress wrestling with the questions myself. I tend to believe that the only way to get better at LR questions is to do a ton of them and BR. If there's someplace I lack understanding, I can probably just go back and watch the video for whatever concept it is. I'm only up to weakening questions in LR, so I wanted to reach out to the community and ask if these LR videos get better or if there is anyone who has skipped the videos and had good results doing so.

Deciding how or what game board to draw is the most difficult part for me. Why?

Do those of you who took the test Saturday have some takeaways/advice on how things went, your experiences with the tablets, differences for those who prepared/PT'd using laptops/desktops, etc.? It'd be much appreciated. I'm likely sitting for it in October and am planning on probably preparing exclusively by PT'ing on my laptop. I haven't seen many complaints, so I'm guessing it went swimmingly for most aside from the LG section.

I've been working with 7sage for a few weeks now and i'm really enjoying the platform. I do feel like I'm not improving as quickly as I'd like to (although I havent taken a test since my diagnostic of 148 so this may just be my current feelings), and I'm not sure if thats because i'm not employing the best study methods/ my full focus or if I'm studying wrong. Those who have improved quite a bit from using this platform, how did you best utilize these resources? Sometimes I feel like I'm doing the problem sets just to go through the motions, and I want to sharpen my focus. I just want to make sure I'm using it the max right now in the beginning stages. Any advice would be great :)

Hi all, I need some help on deciding whether to cancel or not. I’m not sure what people mean when they said they “guessed on 10” - if it’s that they tried and made educated guesses or blindly picked B for all of them like I did.

I currently have a 162 (March 2019),165 (June 2019) and no cancellations on file. I got wrecked by this LG like everyone else, but I think I did pretty solid on all the other sections. But here’s the problem: I’m not sure if I ACTUALLY did well or if it just felt like it...I’m not also sure how bad I did on the logic games (if it’s -10 or -15 or if I’m lucky and get -7).

Worst case scenario, I think I’ll get a 160 and best case scenario I might squeeze 168. It’s crazy to expect a 168, but hey, like 3/5 of the answers for the last game of the June 2019 LG section were B’s so...it’s not entirely impossible right? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe I’m just traveling along the five stages of grief and am currently in denial that I just actually wrecked this exam. But the “what if” is just killing me. My goal is to get a 170 to have a fair chance at Cornell or UC Berkeley (I have a 3.81gpa).

Please help. I am in a-g-o-n-y.🥺

HI there! :)

whenever you finish a problem set, do you watch ALL of the videos on the explanation of each question? Even the questions that you got right? I feel that there are some questions that I don't need to watch the explanations for but I do it because I don't want to jinx myself. Is it recommended that you watch all of the explanations on each question? or is it recommended that you watch the explanation video on only the questions that you got wrong? I'm asking because a simple problem choice marking session seems to be taking a long time and I wanted to know the best way to go about it...

Thank you for your inputs!

Has anyone taken their at home writing sample yet? If so how does it even work? do we just take it whenever and wherever or is there a strict protocol for it?

A bit of backstory. I took the July test and got a 165. Since I am aiming for T14 schools, I wanted (and expected) something a few points higher. I took the September test and fear that I absolutely bombed the LG section. Everything else was fine, but I guessed on at least half of the LG questions. Although I didn't leave anything blank.

Originally, I was planning on cancelling this September score and taking my chances with my 165 (and applying by the end of September). I have a very high GPA, so at least I have that going reverse splitter thing going for me. After reading some people's posts, however, I am wondering if I should wait to see if some kind of miracle happened, or if the curve is super generous (seems unlikely to me).

There would be very little harm in doing this if I knew FOR SURE that law schools (even the T10 and HYS) do not average your score. I feel like I still don't have a clear answer on this specifically. I was also wondering if it would look bad if I got a much lower score on my second test attempt, since I think admissions officials expect to see some improvement with multiple retakes.

So, long story short: cancel and resign myself to 165, or wait to apply on 10/14, hoping for a miracle?

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Hi all --

Like quite a few of you on here, I was just gutted by the lsat yesterday. I was PTing as high as 169, and hitting a consistent 167 in my last three PT's before the test.

The AR section totally destroyed me. I'm guessing maybe 10 correct, if I'm lucky 14. I've estimated my worst possible scenario (taking into account the predicted -12 curve) at a 157, and best case scenario at a 164. This is complicated by the fact that each time I got a high score on a PT (including the 169), I was convinced that I bombed it.

My biggest issue is that my target school, McGill, averages LSAT scores, and I've been specifically instructed to write once and "make it count." I'm also outrunning an awful GPA from over a decade ago, so I don't have much leverage.

As much as I'd like to hope that LSAC comes out with an unprecedented curve (e.g. -16 or something), I know that this is far from a belief I can rely on. I've been monitoring the forums carefully, and as I suspected, those who had not such a bad time on LG have started to come out of the woodworks and post about it. I simply can't deny the fact that if I were better prepared like they were, I would have made it through that section alive.

So my question is twofold:

(1) It seems like a lot of people are worried about this LG section -- but what are the chances, really, that the curve will reflect this difficulty? I have a hard time believing LSAC will make any special accommodations for us.

(2) I'm almost definitely looking at a cancel and a redo. So should I schedule for the November test? Or will that not be enough time to make a significant improvement? I feel like I could use some time off; I haven't taken a break from studying in over four months. I'm looking to apply next year by September.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Curious your guys' opinions. I've just been going straight through the core curriculum. Anybody have tips for staying up on games and logical reasoning? I take a PT minimum once every other week. Should I be doing past core curriculum problem sets of LG and LR as well? Or should I be doing fresh problem sets from the question bank? Or neither, focus on Reading Comp., and keep taking my periodic PTs?

I am giving the LSAT on October 13th in India , and I am confused whether the LSAT here will be digital or not ? I don't want to be surprised on the test day because I am doing all my PT's with pencil paper .

I took my test at American University (School of Law), and I was so surprised at how disorganized everything was. We weren’t even close to being seated at 8:30 am because they were still trying to figure out the tablet and wouldn’t let us in, and when we finally got into the room, they handed everyone their tablets one by one (there was like 40-50 of us so it took forever) and then their seating chart was messed up so it caused even more delays.

We started a full two hours late. IMO this is forgivable for the July exam (due to the special conditions and people knowing they would potentially walk into something like that), but not forgivable for a normal test where all the kinks should’ve been worked out and the proctors should’ve been trained properly.

We started at 10:30 am and many of us were fatigued from the anxiety of the last two hours. To make it worse, the proctor didn’t say “start”, he just started the exam and we all looked down and saw the timer going and panicked. (Someone yelled out “you can’t just start the exam without telling us”) but we all carried on, but it was so frustrating and just sad.

Should I report this to the LSAC? I really think the disorganization, lack of competence on the proctors’ part with the tablets resulting in a two hour delay, was a detriment to a lot of people.

Hi everyone,

For those of you who are taking afternoon tests instead of morning tests, what is your test day routine like? Since the test "starts" at 12:30 pm (mine actually started closer to 2:30pm), how do you use the time between waking up and the test?

I found on my first PT that a significant amount of answers I had gotten right during the initial timed test, I later went back and changed to the wrong answer during Blind Review. This wasn't just one or two questions, but many. Does anyone have any experience with this? Not sure how to feel about it, it's definitely not great. I'm not sure if I'm just second guessing myself too much, or if it's a deeper issue. Any advice?

Usually, I study 3-5 hours a day. But for the next week, due to some circumstances, I probably will only be able to get an hour in max, sometimes even split up throughout the day. What is the best way to make use of this time? 1 section a day and review?

I was thinking maybe foolproof 2 games, do 1 or 2 RC passages from the older LSAT PTs + review, and then maybe review some LR questions?

I have a long list of LR questions I have missed from my time studying that I couldnt get right during BR either. All in all, that seems like it might be close to an hour. 2 games, 1-2 RC passages, plus a few hard LR questions

Consistently in practice tests, my first section is my best with each subsequent section scoring worse than the previous. On the PT I just took, section 1 was LR and I got -3. Section 4 was the second LR and I got -11. I find that my stamina greatly diminishes after each section, especially with the digital test. It’s harder to concentrate, both on what the words mean and the screen itself.

Does anyone have any stamina tips for the digital test? Is it just practice? Also, is it possible that the two LR sections vary that drastically in difficulty?

Thanks!

For many of the longer user comments on JY’s video, they seem to be cut off. Usually, you can click something that ll expand that person’s comment, but for some reason that button isn’t there (I don’t see it), so I can’t read longer comments of people posting their own explanations. Anyone else have similar issue?

Hi everyone,

If I changed my test date to a later test date, would law schools see that I've changed the date? Does it come up as a cancellation? Or does it not appear at all? And if it does come up as a cancellation or a date change, does it have any potential to negatively affect your application? I know that a cancellation does not look better than never having a cancellation, so I was wondering if this date change had the same effect.

Hi guys,

I've seen a number of law school applications ask applicants to submit the date/score of every LSAT they took or plan on taking as a mandatory part of the application. I was wondering how to go about this for canceled scores, specifically for the July 2019 exam given that everyone was able to see their scores before canceling (I ended up canceling my score). For one school, the field for the LSAT score only allows you to enter 3 digits, so there's no way to write "Canceled."

Given that the purpose of canceling a score is to prevent law schools from seeing it, I'm unsure of how to go about this. Have any of you run into this issue as well?

I decided to make a career switch in my mid 20s, and decided on law school. My diagnostic LSAT was in the 150s, and was not improving after using a couple different books. I saw great reviews for 7Sage and decided "why not give this a shot?". I saw drastic improvements after only 2 months (keep in mind I was working full-time, going to graduate school part-time, and never felt I had enough time to study). Eventually, after about 6 months, I reached a peak of 174 on a PT. I managed a 170 on the real thing, which wasn't enough to get me into my dream school but still landed me a spot at a T-20 with a 75% scholarship. During bar prep, I supplemented my prep with 7Sage MBE. Again I was working full-time and studying became a pain, but the MBE questions provided me a great opportunity to squeeze in practice questions during breaks or as a refresher after waking up. I recently found out that I achieved a score enough for any UBE jurisdiction (and then some). Work hard, trust the process, and you can achieve your dreams!

Hi all,

I am in a dilemma in that I have taken all PTs from 40-87 before I took my last LSAT and thus have foolishly used up all newer tests (I did not do PTs before 40 thinking that they are comparatively less valuable than the newer ones). Does anyone have any suggestion regarding how I should do PTs now that I am studying for the November test? Should I PT with older tests, which I haven't done before, or should I PT with the more recent ones, which I have done once or even twice for a few of them? The good thing is even if I have done a question, I tend to not remember the answer choice. But I know JY and others have said that regardless, one's score is likely to be inflated if one has done it before... Has anyone had similar experiences before? Any suggestions or recommendations would be very much appreciated ^^!