Hey there 7 Sager's!

I'm sure there are a handful of you out there that are in a similar conundrum as I am. I took the LSAT in October, scored below the median at my target school, however I am retaking in January. Should I apply prior to taking in January, or hold off until I get my January score back? My concern is being rejected because of my first take. Is there an option to submit an application and attach addendum explaining that I will be retaking in January and for them to hold off on reviewing my application? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Hi everyone,

I would love to know how long it took you to reach your target score? It would be great if you can specify if you were studying full-time or part-time, and you diagnostic and final score.

I am trying to plan out when to write my next LSAT since I was not able to reach my target score after 4 months of full-time studying and to be honest I am feeling a little demotivated and I think it will help me to learn about other people's journey.

Can anyone give me their best tips on how to do well on RC? It is constantly the one section that is dragging me down. Some days I can go -5 and others it is -10+. It is super frustrating. I am planning on taking the LSAT in January one last time. I typically read each paragraph and make short 3-4 word summaries on scratch paper. I try to piece it together and analyze the structure. I honestly sometimes just don't understand some of the passages. I struggle more so with the law passages and science. I am Pting between a 159-163. My LR and LG have improved a ton. Goal is a 157+ on test day.

Thanks!

Hey, everyone! I have set aside 10 more Practice Tests to go before my actual test. I am contemplating whether to add in some old tests, such as 56th or rather stick with the latest 10. I have certainly practiced with old tests in the beginning of my prep, but now I'm in the 70th-80th... I know No. 88 brought in some oldies... so I am curious whether I should refresh my memory on the scope of the old PTs. Thank you!!!!

Anyone know of any good audiobook resources that would be worthwhile? I spent 1.5-2 hrs in the car commuting every day and figured I might as well is that time to “study” and learn/reinforce...

Thanks!

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Hi the problem sets that we can pick from and create on 7sage is there an option of printing them. ??

I know that schools can now receive your scores without the writing sample, but I wonder if they won't actually make a decision until they have it. Has anyone been accepted this cycle before their LSAC writing sample was processed (since it can take up to a month)? Thanks!

I’ve been wondering about this for a while and google isn’t giving me an answer I like haha. Anyone have any thoughts?

It has taken me while to post this because I was extremely disappointed and partially in denial but I have to come to terms with the reality..... I bombed the October LSAT.

I scored the EXACT SAME THING (158) as I did in July. I have all of my application materials ready to go and was not even entertaining the thought of a retake but now... I'm reconsidering.

I would be happy to apply with at LEAST a 163 which I was hitting consistently weeks before the exam. Suddenly the week before, my scores dropped which resulted in me panicking and possibly over-drilling.

SO what I would like to know is

FULL DISCLOSURE: My first take I used Kaplan, second I used Kaplan & Powerscore (+7pt jump), 3rd Take I used SOME 7 Sage lessons but mostly used 7sage for help with blind review method & digital testing.

Being that the deadline to register to sit in January is next week, I would GREATLY appreciate it if I could receive some advice as sooooon as possible. Thank you all in advance!!

Hi! Wondering how to study differently for my third time (technically fourth time but I took July and cancelled it because I ended up getting the same exact score as my second LSAT). I have already taken essentially every relevant practice test in the year + that I studied, and I don't necessarily need to review the basics (I have a thorough understanding of the test concepts).

I am starting studying again in January and taking the April 2020 test. I think I need to put less pressure on myself and focus on self care more this time around, because I consistently practiced 5 points higher than what I score on test day. But I am just not sure how to study this time around besides just taking practice tests like every weekend and doing a really good job on blind review.

Any and all advice is appreciated!

Hey everyone,

So I recently just won a battle with my old community college to change my grade from an F to a W after five years, due to a misunderstanding with the professor years ago. Yeah WOOO! but I sent in a new transcript and they just added them together but did not remove the F grade? It says they processed it but my UGPA or units did not change? Anyone have any experience with this? The Transcripts are the same it just reflects a new W instead of F on the new one, yet the Summary Report does not reflect that?

Freaking out kind of!!

My UGPA was effected by the F by a .15 decrease.

Hey 7Sagers,

We recently implemented a new member type to those who (1) was or is a ⭐ member; (2) was or is active and helpful on the discussion forums; and (3) verified with us that they have a 170 or higher LSAT score: Sage! What comes with this new title, you ask?

-A fancy "Sage" title on their username instead of the common "Member" title.

-Everyone else's envy.

So if you see one of the Sages posting on the forum, give them a high five (before you ask them questions :P)

McGeorge school of Law is holding a mock LSAT. I called signed up and they said they are one of the few places that can do it. They also said they have no idea which test will be used and they are working with a specific section of LSAC people. I signed up because I think it would be great experience to maybe get some nerves out and really simulate the whole process. But its a 3 hr drive and i just dont wanna go only to get a test ive already done. Any thoughts? Its an official event if you just type in Mock LSAT December 14th Mcgeorge in google.

Hi, I know that older exams (pre J07) differ in structure etc. How does one incorporate them into your studying? Should you treat them like real PTs but take the score with a grain of salt? Or....

I know that you get something like a notebook with some pages and that you can ask for more if need be, but I wanted to know, what are its dimensions roughly? I imagine it's either printer paper size or like those smaller blue booklets they give out on university exams. Thanks!

Anyone near San Jose willing to study?

I've got a Google Calendar where I log my study times. Would love to share it with whomever, so we can make sure we're both hitting our goals and see an overview of what we are reviewing!

Email me: blakewmorrisuk@gmail.com

Admin. Note (11/8/2019)

Edited to add: Please see the following update by @"David.Busis" (also in Comments)

"Hey everyone—I can speak for @"J.Y. Ping" when I tell you that this advice from six years ago is no longer valid.

The writing sample matters.

Some admissions officers read all writing samples as a rule; some only read it for certain applicants under certain circumstances. Regardless, it matters. If the admissions team might read it, you have no choice but to act as if they will read it."

It doesn't matter. It's not a part of your score. Do it according to instructions and you'll be fine. I'm not really convinced that admissions officers even read the samples. Seriously, who can still read handwriting?

The setup will ask you to make an argument, so make an argument. You will argue that out of the two options to pursue, one is better than the other. What metric do you use to argue for "better?" The setup gives you two goals, constraints, metrics, whatever you want to call it, that's how you argue for "better."

Make arguments for both sides. But, ultimately argue for just one side.

For example, we need to get off the island. We have two options: bridge or ferry. We have two constraints/goals/metrics: safety and speed.

Argument: We should take the bridge. The bridge is safer and faster. Some people think the ferry is safer and faster but they are idiots. They make arguments like X, but, come on. X, really? That's all you got? Come on. So, we're in agreement, yes? Off to the bridge!

The above satisfies the instructions, but is a very bad argument. Imagine if that's on an LR section. You'd tear that argument to pieces! So, make sure you don't make arguments like that one. Call out any assumptions you make, e.g., "I presume blah blah blah is the case." Don't make fallacies, e.g., attacking an argument with "Come on."

Anyway, by the time you get to this section, the test is pretty much over and you should feel overwhelming relief. So, try to have some fun with it! :)

If anyone is available to tutor RC and LR please message me. I can do video call/ in person meeting (I live in Tarzana, CA)

Thank you!!

nevermind

Hey guys,

I think the previous BR page where you can type in your answers using keyboard instead of clicking each one, is gone??

I do think that was a much more efficient way to do BR. But now the only way to BR seems inside the same single PT page?

Can we have the old system back?? Thanks a lot.

I am taking in March, and Im not really sure where to go from here. I am usually mid-high 160s and I have plenty of new PTs left. Right now I am currently working through the early ones. Should I even bother with that? Ive done 1-14 and am really working through the LR sections of 15-30. as far as the most recent ones, Ive really only done the adds from the June 2007 test to 80, with touching none of 81-88. I was saving the most recent ones for maybe the last two or so ones as the most accurate gauge of my ability leading up to the test. Just wanted some thoughts.

Curious if this is only for people whose test was canceled or if it's also for folks who experienced a signficant delay (like 4 hours).

Any helpful tips for LR? I miss questions and then when I look at it a second time I know the right answer without looking at what I chose etc and get them all right. Not sure if pressure is playing a part in this or what the hell is going on.