Regarding whether other people's argument and conclusion can be used to answer a question(not the author’s) if the author himself did not provide an argument? Since in one lesson, JY said that other people's argument is distinct from the author's argument. So if the author himself just cites other researchers' arguments and conclusions can we use those to answer the questions?

I keep hearing that LR in the newer sections is more difficult or at least different. When does that change take place?

I’m taking the LSAT next week but still really struggling with logic games. Sometimes I’ll just freeze and have no idea what to do with it after making the game board and writing the rules.

Im only a few points shy of my target score and my LR and RC are pretty solid. Is there anything I can do to strengthen logic games in the next week and a half? Any strategies that can help me?

Thanks!

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I could really use some advice. I'm currently enrolled in the Blueprint LSAT classroom course originally meant for the upcoming January 2019 LSAT which I have since postponed to March 2019. I've been attending these classes religiously and have been studying full-time for the LSAT for the past 6 weeks. I've got two classes and two PTs with them left but my lack of improvement has got me desperately searching for answers on the best plan of attack from now until my new test date. My original diagnostic at the start of their course was 152 and my best PT is just a 3 point improvement of 155 which is far from my goal of 165+. With only two weeks left with them and only a little over two months until my test, I'm wondering if I should ditch them now and go for 7Sage or just commit to Blueprint's course, finish up and practice their methods until test date. I'm sure most of you are probably not familiar with their approach but I guess I'm more curious on whether two months of full-time studying with 7Sage would be enough to attain my goal of 165+, or whether that time would be better spent practicing what I've already learned from the other guys. I'm also curious if my time with Blueprint might help me get through 7Sage's curriculum faster or if I'd just be starting over from scratch. I just signed up for the trial course and from the get-go it's telling me that 3 months is not enough. Unfortunately, I intend on attending law school this Fall so the March 2019 test is my last shot, meaning I've only got a little over two months left to prepare. If 7Sage is still worth it in your opinion, which course should I aim for (I was thinking Starter or Premium since I have such little time left)? If there are any former Blueprint(ers?) who are now 7Sage converts, or past/current 7Sage students or even admins that could provide some insight, I'd very much appreciate it.

I've narrowed the choice down to:

CUNY School of Law

Pace University

Fordham Law

I would appreciate any comments on your experience(s) at the above testing centers! Trying not to think about how my testing site choice will determine if I get paper or digital test.....

Hi all. I am considering taking the July 2019 LSAT which will be my first go. Given that it is the first launch of the digital version of the exam, I have some reservations. Mainly, I am afraid of the fact that since the majority of my studying will be on paper, I feel less prepared for a paperless exam. I am aware of the benefits of the exam (e.g. no bubbles!), but I still like to simulate as realistic a testing environment as possible.

Does anyone know if any of the PTs will be made digital so we can simulate tests in a realistic way?

I believe that for the first digital exam, testers will be allowed to see their score prior to accepting it. Is this a worthwhile tradeoff?

I haven't checked out the LSAC tutorials yet, but I'm sure they will be somewhat helpful.

Anyone else have similar concerns? Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!

:P Hey guys,

Wanted to start a thread regarding lsat score increase in the last 2-3 weeks before exam.

Saw a few posters that had pretty decent jumps 2-3 weeks before exam.

Example “ Richard Rorty wrote:

i did it. I had a couple 162-3's, and a 165 I think. Two weeks and two days to go I got a 167 and then exploded to 174, and continued to score there. 173 on the real thing.”

For those that have increased more than 2-3 points , or even if 1 point, what were your last 2-3 weeks left study methods. Did you continue to study the same way as you’ve been studying? If you did anything different , what did you change or start doing ? Any specific plans?

Also what kind of score increase did you achieve ?

Anyone break through from anywhere in 160s to anywhere in 170s in that time period ?

Would really appreciate your responses !!

So for me, I have a tutor now and his plan for me is to focus on my strong suits and perfect those (LR) by constantly drilling the LR question types I’m seeing a pattern in getting wrong and then don’t move on from that type until I could “tutor” him and explain why the correct answers are correct and the wrong aren’t correct.

Then keep drilling LG ( kinda same method as for LR). As for time (which is a huge issue of mine) DON’T RUSH. Just keep practicing the games over and over and the deductions will start to become more clear to you and you’ll spot them faster and be able to work through the game faster naturally. When you rush you put pressure on yourself and can miss key deductions- which I can attest has seriously ruined games for me that would have went well if I just spotted that one deduction.

Also a trick he taught me that has been working well is, look for the least restrive entity in the answer choices for “could be true/could be false” questions, esp if you’re pressed for time. Then for “must be true/must be false” questions, look for the most restrictive entities , cause that are USUALLY (not always) the ones the questions will be most focused on. Try and make as many deductions as you can in the beginning before going to the questions. At first I thought this would waste time but it’s helped me TREMENDOUSLY. Some questions I could answer in literally seconds just from a deduction made in my main game board in the beginning that made it possible for me to see the answer right away.

Now RC, this is my ok section. I say this because untimed I don’t perform badly. Around -4 or -5 (although my goal is -2/-3) but timed I’m getting around -8 or even -12 because I barely get around to the last passage and if I do I only have time to answer the 1st or maybe 2nd question if I’m lucky :cry: . I think the best I did timed was -6 or -7 and not sure how lol.

He said this would be the most diff to increase a lot in in the next two weeks but keep practicing and work on not reading the passage fast but reading the passage in a way in which you grasp the idea of what is being written properly.

Also read in a way that you are paying attention to how it’s structured and make sure you can clearly identify the conclusion. For main point questions that’s what you look for. And for the summary questions you look for the answer that the majority of the passage speaks about, usually a topic that 2 or 3 of the pharagraphs all speak about.

Are any of these tips helpful to any of you?

I have some more but not sure if people would actually even care to read them lol.

However, if anyone has any other tips please share !

So to get back to the original topic, if anyone can answer that has

Please share and also say what scores you went from and what you did to get there !

Best of luck to everyone, keep pushing !!

I took my full fresh PT for the first time in months and after taking it, I couldn't study anymore and had to call it a day. Exhaustion. I BR'd one game and compiled a list of LR questions that I should BR before grading them but I'm so doing them tomorrow.

Do most of you BR full PTs on the day of taking them? Unless I'm on advil like 3 times a day, which I don't think is a great idea though I am no doctor, I doubt I can do full PTs AND BR them on the same day. But that automatically reduces the number of hours I study daily on PT days. Kind of torn here.

Please share your experiences.

P.S_ I'm currently studying full time. On a non-PT day, I typically spend 6 hr-ish(Meal/bathroom/rest/daydreaming/Browing on the internet excluded) fully dedicated to the LSAT.

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Looking for a meet-up in central NJ to go over questions, etc.

I've been saving a few problem sets from each lesson to do at a later time. My thinking behind this is that I'll be able to use them as practice. Is this this a good idea, or should I do all of the problem sets after each lesson?

I know it is ultimately my choice, but I'm curious about the opinions of others.

Hey guys,

Caught between a rock and a hard place on what to do given my current situation. Over the past month, I've consistently been reaching ~170 on PTs, however, over the weekend I had back-to-back performances in the low-mid 160s; my first time regressing since I began studying. I've consistently been putting in around 5 to 6 hours per day and have not been susceptible to any "burnout" thus far, but this weekend felt myself having a bit of a breakdown as I could tell I was under performing whilst I took the exams, creating a snowball effect, if you will. In general, I was missing questions that I normally do not and on BR they were just bad choices by not reasoning my way through the answers (I'm talking going around -10 on both LRs inc. "easy" questions early on like #2 and #3 when I usually go -2 or -3) I spoke to my tutor and he says it happens all the time and more than likely burnout, so I've decided to take a few days off to clear my head, but it does leave me concerned with the possibility that there's a more fundamental problem of consistency that needs to be addressed and solved before I sit down for the official administration.

Ideally, I would like to apply for this cycle and I have my sights on T14, but also will be applying T30. My applications are about ready to go but I do not have any official scores on the record and, in general, have this worry that I may be trying to force it given I'm already applying quite late in the cycle. After what took place over the weekend, I'm concerned about allowing the risk of a low 160 on my official record when I know I can do better; as I really do have my hopes set on T14. However, that decision to postpone is at the expense of not going to school for more than another year and a half, which in itself is a very hard pill to swallow given I am already in my late 20's and am itching to get this show on the road.

Really appreciate y'alls insight here.

-MG

Alright, so I've heard this term a few times now and I'd really like some advice on what it specifically is. E.g. am I looking for patterns in the reasoning structure? Patterns in the type of argument that is used? How do I go about looking for and charting these patterns?

Any help is appreciated!

I had the app on Android but as of today I stopped using it due to constant glitching which actually threw me off and my performance while practicing. While using the proctor during timed practice, it constantly jumps to the end of a section immediately after beginning a new one, or it ends earlier than it should. There are other random glitches, like today it just started playing static noise in the middle of a section (which wouldn't stop until I closed the app) which was distracting. Please consider fixing because the app could be a great tool but right now it's too unreliable to use.

Take the LSAT in Fordham law vs New York law vs Pace?

Hey gang!

When I took the November LSAT, I bubbled all of my answers at once, at the very end when 5 minutes was called. I'm trying out a new bubbling method. I'm liking giving myself micro breaks now, and bubbling as I go along. My issue is with questions I've circled---skipped questions that I don't want to turn back to until the very end. Typically I circle them on the test booklet, but now with the bubbling method, I'd like to bubble the other answers in and leave that one blank. My fear is that I'll forget that blank space later on. Can I circle or dash or mark in some way the number for that question on the actual scantron? Does anybody do this? Thanks for any input!

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Hello, fellow 7Sagers. The June & July tests are now open for registration. More good news: The essay will no longer be handwritten or necessarily take place on the same day as the rest of the test. Hooray!

hey, i don't understand, can i start from section 2 or section 3 when i take the exam? if i finish one section earlier, can i assign time to other difficult section? thanks

Hello,

As many of you know, on every employment summary sheet from each law school breaks down the law firm category into 8 subcategories: solo, 2-10, etc.... I used to think that only 501+ firms were considered biglaw but turns out I was kind of wrong? One of my closest friends has recently moved from a 501+ firm to a 251-500+ firm and her salary is exactly the same according to her. So my question what is the bottom line? If 251-500+ firms offer pretty much the same benefits, do 101-250+ firms count as biglaw too? When we see those biglaw percentages from law schools, do they only include 501+ firm stats?

Got a 172 on a practice test this morning! I'm taking the LSAT the 26th of this month so I feel pretty great about that, hopefully I repeat that a few times before and on the day.

I was worried that my entire endeavor might be foolhardy as I was ignoring one of the curriculum's first pieces of advice, which was that three months is not enough time. I've actually only had like two and a half and one entire week was taken up by my entire home flooding and another by the liturgical season of Christmas and it's been like, damn.

But the same article that recommends that is basically warning against lousy and expensive prep courses and unrealistic expectations about your own behavior. Since I'm a bit older and I've already worked jobs where I worked at least 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, I already knew it wasn't unrealistic to assume I could study for 10 or more hours a day and in fact I have done just that since I began.

I just did the core curriculum in order and followed all of the advice precisely, save for the 3 month thing and the recommendation only to do 30 hours a week if you study full time, and the recommendation of diminishing returns on doing consecutive practice tests each day and close together. Since I can work a 10 hour day without any particular mental fatigue I just do the practice test in the morning and the blind review in the afternoon til night and I feel no worse for wear or over saturated with the LSAT the next morning. This morning was the third practice test I took since doing the core curriculum and drilling all LG from PT 1-35 repeatedly, and fourth overall, so I went 163-166-172 over the last three days.

Blind review really is an incredible process. One can feel themselves gaining greater mastery of the test's form while they do it.

If anyone would be interested in any advice from me I guess the one thing I'd say is a piece of advice they gave me in the theater. The context of this advice is that actors new to the trade tend to speak too quickly to be understood from the audience but also tend to pause too much in between lines because they don't know how to evaluate how much weight each moment needs and so they're in the paradoxical predicament of being told they really need to speed the hell up because the play is taking 2 hours and forty-five minutes and some members of the audience live in Brooklyn but also slow the hell down because no one can understand what you're saying.

The obvious piece of advice from outside of their perspective is, "don't speak faster, speak sooner." Similarly while taking a timed LSAT do not think faster, or fall to the trap of having a general impulse to rush that just feels like the subconscious thought process yelling an electrical impulse in the back of your head. Take as much time as you need to think precisely and according to 7sage's methods, just do it sooner. This is also related to the concept of mindfulness which is something I've benefited from a great deal recently. Listen to 7sage's methods and you will understand the fundamentals. After that the test taking experience really is psychological. There's no question you can't get right.

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LSAT Analytics problem - The "Question and Game Difficulty" parts are just all square boxes. I can't just whether a question is 2 star or 3 star on the analytics page - after I graded a PT. Thanks!

Hello! I am hoping to get some feedback from people who are far along in a 7Sage paid course or already completed the LSAT. For those with higher diagnostics, did 7Sage still substantially help improve your score? Or is the curriculum more helpful for those beginning with lower diagnostics?

Additionally, did anyone take an in-person course in addition to a 7Sage course, and did you feel this was beneficial or not? Why?

I look forward to hearing back from this community. Thank you!