Hello all,

I've been around the forums for a while but I have yet posted anything asking for others' advice on how to approach this test (usually only specific questions from the PTs) Recently I've felt I really hit a slump in terms of motivation. I got a 166 last October after studying for almost a year and since then has barely touched the materials, every time I do anything LSAT-related I lose focus very quickly (was super focused before I took Oct though!) Right now I'm trying to get myself together to prepare for either June or the July exam, and want to hear how you guys would approach studying at this point. I have all the basics down and had already gone back to the CC multiple rounds to drill specific question types. I usually go -3 or -4 on LR, -2 on RC and LG is just very random. Sometimes I'll end up with -2 and other times I will psych myself out and end up doing only two games. I've already fool-proofed 1-35 TWICE and seriously just don't know what to do at this point with this section.

Should I be drilling specific question types right now in addition to more fool-proofing? Should I get the LSAT trainer and read through that before doing more drills? Anyone have the trainer? Was it helpful? Should I keep PTing? (I've done a lot of the ones from the 60s and 70s already)

Any advice would be appreciated. My goal is a 175 although I know that's obviously ambitious, but better to shoot high amirite!?

Most online resources I’ve read recommend that LG is studied first because it is most learnable and gets your brain wired up for the LSAT best. Is there a disadvantage to starting with LG on 7Sage and is LR first because it’s the largest section(s)?

I'd like to apply to some T-14 schools and since my GPA is in the low median range (and I have poor study abroad grades), I need a high LSAT for my raw numbers to be considered anywhere near competitive. Obviously, getting my applications in early hugely increases my chances of admission. This would be my first attempt at the exam and because I'm already taking a year off between graduation and hopefully starting law school, I don't want to have to take off another year because I f***ed up and took the exam too early. Is it better for chances of admission to apply earlier with a potentially lower score or later with a potentially higher score?

So after receiving my disappointing Lsat score for January, I've decided to rewrite again in June. I'm a Canadian applicant so I will be applying again for the next cycle. I've written the LSAT three times already, so I want the next attempt to be my absolute last one. My highest Lsat score is a 151, and my goal is anything 156+. Is that approachable?

My section breakdown is -5/6 on LG, -9 to -11 on LR, and approx. -14 on RC.

I'm not sure how to resume my studying approach at this point. I've been studying on and off for a year now, i have all the Powerscore books and the Lsat trainer. I had the beginners subscription for 7Sage, but that ended recently. I would really like to work on perfecting LG and LR sections.

Should i reread any of the books or purchace 7sage again?

Any study tips/plan for the next 3 months will help!

Hello! I am currently working my way through the LG section of the syllabus. I have taken a bit longer to complete this section than my study schedule has suggested, as this is currently my weakest area. I am currently working full time. So typically I spend anywhere from 1-3 hours studying on the weekdays before work, and up to 8 hours on Saturday/Sunday. What I am wondering is if it is a good idea to go back and forth between the LG and RC sections.

I am running in to difficulty studying the LG sections during weekdays, I find I sometimes have to stop midway through a game in order to leave for work. I usually end up restarting the game the next day, which is pretty time consuming. I was thinking of completing the RC sections on weekdays, and going to LG on the weekends?

What do you think? Thanks in advance for the #help :)

Can anyone provide some details about their experience with the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim? I have read a few posts that have said it can actually compliment the CC very well. I am retaking in July and am trying to get from high 160s to low 170s. Do people think that redoing the CC with the trainer is a good idea?

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I find that I am taking longer than the amount of time suggested on the course for each lesson, with getting each problem set done. Right now, I try to go through each set timed, go back through to blind review and watch the explanation. I am wondering if I am not using my time productively, given that I will take the test in June.

Hello friends!

Since joining the 7sage community a short while ago, I have been seeing the power score books mentioned a lot.

Are they necessary? Will I be at a disadvantage if I don't use them?

This is not my first time studying for the lsat. I have used other prep courses before and have also self studied with the LSAT trainer (which i loved). So, I'm just curious because since I have the ultimate+, I already have access to all lsat questions so I'm afraid to bother investing in the powerscore books if i don't really need them.

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So I've been memorizing all the logical indicators that were taught during the logic lessons and had a question.

In the Sufficient & Necessary Condition Cheatsheet it lists out all the main indicators.

For example, in Group 1, the lists says: any, all, every, if, the only, when, where, anyone, whenever.

This got me thinking, if 'any' & 'anyone', 'when' & 'whenever' are all indicators for a sufficient condition.

Could 'wherever' also be an indicator for a sufficient condition seeing how 'where' is already part of the list?

I know JY points out that his list of the indicators isn't a full comprehensive list, I but wanted to make sure words like 'wherever' weren't omitted for a reason.

Hey! So as I’m pushing through my second semester at NU I thought I’d come back and share a little bit about my experience with an extremely late acceptance of a waitlist and what it’s like being on like 12 waitlists with 0 acceptances. Hopefully some of this will help those who are on waitlists and feel as lost and confused as I did.

BACKGROUND FOLLOWS SKIP FOR MY EXPERIENCE:

My story: I was a splitter - last December I scored a 171 on the December LSAT, coupled with a 2.83 cumulative GPA, I was ready to apply to schools and get rejected like crazy. What I wasn’t anticipating was getting waitlisted at half of the T-14 and some other t-20 schools.

My apps were submitted by late January and in March the waitlist began rolling in. Duke, Pen, UCLA, NU, ND, Mich, Irvine...etc etc.

I was getting waitlisted more than rejected. However I ended up in a situation where I was waitlisted everywhere and accepted nowhere.

I played the game throughout spring and summer. I sent LOCI’s every month or two and generally kept on top of them.

Starting in June I started falling off waitlist. This went on until late July, at which point NU was the only outstanding waitlist - and I had just accepted defeat. I got a second job was ready to figure out my life, then NU called - offered me a spot - and like a child at Disneyland I tearfully and excitedly accepted. The only issue? Classes started in 4 days, I was in California and I had to get out to Chicago as fast as possible.

BEGIN HERE FOR MY EXPERIENCE:

When I got to Chicago I didn’t have a place to live. The school got me a hotel for a week but after that it was on me. So basically my first week of law school, when I wanted to be focused on classes, I was dealing with apartment hunting. This really got me off on the wrong foot - was behind in readings and never caught up.

I also missed orientation week - which meant I wasn’t on most of the email lists. For the first month I missed many important lunch meetings and seminars. I didn’t even know they were a thing, and since I hadn’t made any friends/Aquintances I was lost. This never went away, even today. I still feel like I’m not a working gear in the NU clock. This is something you want to address right away. I also had to get ID’s made, full out paperwork, deal with school medical stuff....it was a lot in a small timeframe

Moving without housing: huge issue. My first month was spent more on trying to get a place to live, a bed, and everything else you need to live than it was on class work. I flew out with one suitcase of stuff. Trying to deal with this and law school is not for the faint of heart.

People already know each other and you’ll feel left out. People have been taking since orientation - if you weren’t lucky enough to make it to that you’ll be that one guy/gal that is on the outside. It will eventually go away (not the social awkwardness -that stays - law school is weird man) and you’ll start to make friends.

So if you are on the waitlist and thinking of making a split second decision - be prepared to potentially be way behind the curve from the get go. Work diligently and prioritize; but definitely take these things into consideration when you are weighing your options with the waitlists.

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Hi everyone! I'm looking for some good "sage" advice as to the best ways to prepare for the september exam. I've resourced the powerscore LG bible, the LSAT trainer by Mike Kim and I've worked my way through the free trial on here. I'm going to register for one of the courses, but I'm not yet sure which one is going to benefit me the best as im torn between the premium and the ultimate.

My question is this, what techniques have you guys used to initially start off that proved to increase your score? AND do you guys recommend just taking a cold PT untimed to see where your at? I keep reading about people timing their first test just to see where they're at but I'm not sure if thats the best route?

Any advice you guys could share would be greatly appreciated as I'm really looking to score relatively high. ( like everyone else LOL) #goals

Hi there!

What do you guys review or study when you're not exactly focused and just hanging out? Any flashcards or anything? I was thinking about making some flash cards for various question stems. Curious to see what others do when they're not "in the zone" but still trying to be productive.

The last few weeks waiting for my score I was sure I did poorly. The test was hard in my opinion compared to the majority of the 30 others I have taken. Well, I opened the email and saw an amazing score. I had gone from the low 140s to the high 150s. A 17 point increase to be exact. It was just shy of my best PT score. I cannot thank 7Sage enough!!!

I am finding that only a few of the answers I got wrong were in fact circled ones from when i took the PT, and most of the answers I got wrong weren’t even circled to begin with? I’m afraid either my confidence is too high or something is very wrong with my reasoning that I don’t even doubt myself with these particular questions. Thoughts? Any feedback is appreciated.

Hello,

I've been out of the loop for the past couple of months (a lot happened).

Here's my situation:

Accepted to 1

WL 2

Rejected about 4 - 5 other places

I have begun studying for the Sept 2019 LSAT (possibly July if progress is faster).

My plan is to use the LSAT trainer first, Powerscore Bibles, and also 7sage for drills and exams.

I really hope pushing a year will make a difference (I honestly will not have any updates on my resume between that time).

My real question is,

Can I re-apply to the schools I was rejected from with the SAME LOR and PS/opt essays?

Will that look poor on my part if the only difference in my application is my LSAT score between a whole year?

Any support and advice is always welcomed, and also looking to hear from any re-applicants!

Back to studying I go...

so I graduated in dec of 2017 and it has be tough for me because of the job market. I just feel as if i must be unhirable or something. My plan was to get a “real” job and then go to law school but that has not worked out. Ive been working at the same job involving children and a few volunteer opportunities but thats it. I really just want to create a strong application but i feel like i have nothing to offer what should i do? Ive applied to nearly 100 jobs im seriously dishearted there.

What's the best location to take my LSAT?

Fordham

New York Law School

Bergen County Community College

Seton Hall

Any help would be appreciated!

I'm currently working as a software engineer( more like an algorithm engineer), and I decided to apply next cycle. I got a decent LSAT score on Jan test, so I didn't worry about test preparation. The thing is my current job is nothing related to practicing law. I want to be a patent lawyer after law school, so I searched online about patent agent job( and also patent assistant). However, the salary for inexperienced patent agent is only one third of my current salary. TBH, I didn't care about money. I had enough saving. How important is work experience related to job hunting after law school? Is it stupid to give up my current job for less lucrative position?

Thanks for your advice.

For January LSAT, I marked up skipped questions with a small “s” next to the question number, and circled /triangled the question numbers I wanted to come back later on the scantron sheet. I didn’t erase those marks. Would that have effected how the machine read my score?

Has anyone ever done the same thing like me on a disclosed test?

#Help

Cold diagnostic- 143

January score- 159

Still debating if I should retake in March because I scored more or less around my PT score, and I don’t know if I can improve in a month’s time. Can give only the March one, none else. Skeptic in as to scoring lower the second time around. I don’t have a great resume or softs, so I was wondering if I should use this time between now and June to work on that instead. I’m an international student and my grad score is in %age. I topped in my college, though. Advice appreciated.

TIA