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Hey guys,
Caught between a rock and a hard place on what to do given my current situation. Over the past month, I've consistently been reaching ~170 on PTs, however, over the weekend I had back-to-back performances in the low-mid 160s; my first time regressing since I began studying. I've consistently been putting in around 5 to 6 hours per day and have not been susceptible to any "burnout" thus far, but this weekend felt myself having a bit of a breakdown as I could tell I was under performing whilst I took the exams, creating a snowball effect, if you will. In general, I was missing questions that I normally do not and on BR they were just bad choices by not reasoning my way through the answers (I'm talking going around -10 on both LRs inc. "easy" questions early on like #2 and #3 when I usually go -2 or -3) I spoke to my tutor and he says it happens all the time and more than likely burnout, so I've decided to take a few days off to clear my head, but it does leave me concerned with the possibility that there's a more fundamental problem of consistency that needs to be addressed and solved before I sit down for the official administration.
Ideally, I would like to apply for this cycle and I have my sights on T14, but also will be applying T30. My applications are about ready to go but I do not have any official scores on the record and, in general, have this worry that I may be trying to force it given I'm already applying quite late in the cycle. After what took place over the weekend, I'm concerned about allowing the risk of a low 160 on my official record when I know I can do better; as I really do have my hopes set on T14. However, that decision to postpone is at the expense of not going to school for more than another year and a half, which in itself is a very hard pill to swallow given I am already in my late 20's and am itching to get this show on the road.
Really appreciate y'alls insight here.
-MG
Alright, so I've heard this term a few times now and I'd really like some advice on what it specifically is. E.g. am I looking for patterns in the reasoning structure? Patterns in the type of argument that is used? How do I go about looking for and charting these patterns?
Any help is appreciated!
I had the app on Android but as of today I stopped using it due to constant glitching which actually threw me off and my performance while practicing. While using the proctor during timed practice, it constantly jumps to the end of a section immediately after beginning a new one, or it ends earlier than it should. There are other random glitches, like today it just started playing static noise in the middle of a section (which wouldn't stop until I closed the app) which was distracting. Please consider fixing because the app could be a great tool but right now it's too unreliable to use.
Take the LSAT in Fordham law vs New York law vs Pace?
Hey gang!
When I took the November LSAT, I bubbled all of my answers at once, at the very end when 5 minutes was called. I'm trying out a new bubbling method. I'm liking giving myself micro breaks now, and bubbling as I go along. My issue is with questions I've circled---skipped questions that I don't want to turn back to until the very end. Typically I circle them on the test booklet, but now with the bubbling method, I'd like to bubble the other answers in and leave that one blank. My fear is that I'll forget that blank space later on. Can I circle or dash or mark in some way the number for that question on the actual scantron? Does anybody do this? Thanks for any input!
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Hello, fellow 7Sagers. The June & July tests are now open for registration. More good news: The essay will no longer be handwritten or necessarily take place on the same day as the rest of the test. Hooray!
hey, i don't understand, can i start from section 2 or section 3 when i take the exam? if i finish one section earlier, can i assign time to other difficult section? thanks
Hello,
As many of you know, on every employment summary sheet from each law school breaks down the law firm category into 8 subcategories: solo, 2-10, etc.... I used to think that only 501+ firms were considered biglaw but turns out I was kind of wrong? One of my closest friends has recently moved from a 501+ firm to a 251-500+ firm and her salary is exactly the same according to her. So my question what is the bottom line? If 251-500+ firms offer pretty much the same benefits, do 101-250+ firms count as biglaw too? When we see those biglaw percentages from law schools, do they only include 501+ firm stats?
Got a 172 on a practice test this morning! I'm taking the LSAT the 26th of this month so I feel pretty great about that, hopefully I repeat that a few times before and on the day.
I was worried that my entire endeavor might be foolhardy as I was ignoring one of the curriculum's first pieces of advice, which was that three months is not enough time. I've actually only had like two and a half and one entire week was taken up by my entire home flooding and another by the liturgical season of Christmas and it's been like, damn.
But the same article that recommends that is basically warning against lousy and expensive prep courses and unrealistic expectations about your own behavior. Since I'm a bit older and I've already worked jobs where I worked at least 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, I already knew it wasn't unrealistic to assume I could study for 10 or more hours a day and in fact I have done just that since I began.
I just did the core curriculum in order and followed all of the advice precisely, save for the 3 month thing and the recommendation only to do 30 hours a week if you study full time, and the recommendation of diminishing returns on doing consecutive practice tests each day and close together. Since I can work a 10 hour day without any particular mental fatigue I just do the practice test in the morning and the blind review in the afternoon til night and I feel no worse for wear or over saturated with the LSAT the next morning. This morning was the third practice test I took since doing the core curriculum and drilling all LG from PT 1-35 repeatedly, and fourth overall, so I went 163-166-172 over the last three days.
Blind review really is an incredible process. One can feel themselves gaining greater mastery of the test's form while they do it.
If anyone would be interested in any advice from me I guess the one thing I'd say is a piece of advice they gave me in the theater. The context of this advice is that actors new to the trade tend to speak too quickly to be understood from the audience but also tend to pause too much in between lines because they don't know how to evaluate how much weight each moment needs and so they're in the paradoxical predicament of being told they really need to speed the hell up because the play is taking 2 hours and forty-five minutes and some members of the audience live in Brooklyn but also slow the hell down because no one can understand what you're saying.
The obvious piece of advice from outside of their perspective is, "don't speak faster, speak sooner." Similarly while taking a timed LSAT do not think faster, or fall to the trap of having a general impulse to rush that just feels like the subconscious thought process yelling an electrical impulse in the back of your head. Take as much time as you need to think precisely and according to 7sage's methods, just do it sooner. This is also related to the concept of mindfulness which is something I've benefited from a great deal recently. Listen to 7sage's methods and you will understand the fundamentals. After that the test taking experience really is psychological. There's no question you can't get right.
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LSAT Analytics problem - The "Question and Game Difficulty" parts are just all square boxes. I can't just whether a question is 2 star or 3 star on the analytics page - after I graded a PT. Thanks!
Hello! I am hoping to get some feedback from people who are far along in a 7Sage paid course or already completed the LSAT. For those with higher diagnostics, did 7Sage still substantially help improve your score? Or is the curriculum more helpful for those beginning with lower diagnostics?
Additionally, did anyone take an in-person course in addition to a 7Sage course, and did you feel this was beneficial or not? Why?
I look forward to hearing back from this community. Thank you!
Hey guys,
I was wondering if there was a section on the CC where we can drill question stems to identify what type of question that is?
I posted this a day ago but got no response so i thought i'd try it again.
So i want to start on January 10 and take the premium package which is 6 months. Now i go to university full time but i think with the study schedule i can manage my time and do both the LSAT and my uni courses. Do you guys think I can manage to pull this off with the premium pack?
My target score is 160-164 and I got 149 on my diagnostic test and i am kind of familiar with the test (i studied for a month and have basic knowledge of the test)
Thanks in advance people :)
Hi you all,
I listened to the latest 7sage podcast episode and the young man sharing his testimony mentioned that he got a tutor from the community. I have always been interested in this. Can anyone point in the right direction to make that happen for myself?
Best,
Aristotle
Hi everyone, first time posting - thanks for reading. I’m looking for some advice and suggestions on the upcoming exams & my study plans.
I have gone through the Manhattan Prep course and taken the LSAT twice (Dec '17/Sept '18 with same exact score). I feel that I understand the fundamentals and am familiar with question types/traps/tricks, but nevertheless keep losing points. I want to take the March 2019 LSAT (to apply in the fall), but I am not sure whether I can break into 170s. After my MP CC (around 3 months) I burned out and postponed my exam. After recovery, later on I only studied (reread CC & reviewed PTs) and took PTs regularly about 1 month to 1 1/2 months before the exams because of interruptions in my life. My sole improvement from the Dec to Sept exam was my timing (something I still need to keep working on).
After going through the discussions and listening to the podcasts, I've decided to take two PTs per week, BR (which I hadn't done correctly or consistently previously), and drill (including fool-proof LG method). I plan to study around 43 hours a week.
I am semi-consider taking the June exam, except I have a sibling graduation (out of state) the weekend of May 31st, and I fear burning out, slacking off, or losing sanity from stress studying for those months leading up.
Any help, suggestions, or tips would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
Hi all, apologies if someone else has asked a similar Q (if so, could someone link me to it? Thanks!), would love sage advice from old and new timers here!
Starting this week I will be studying for the LSAT full-time all the way to writing either the June or July LSAT. Any thoughts on building a schedule for this time?
Relevant details:
I'm not working
I workout in the evenings (1 hr)
Ideal score: 165 (unsure if relevant)
Currently using free account (on the Introduction to Arguments lessons - 'premise and conclusion') and hope to sign up for the LSAT Starter when I get to Grammar lessons since here is where the locked lessons begin!
Advice on purchasing the right course would be appreciated too! My goal is to build a strong foundation. I have almost all of the PTs (aside from those done in the last year?)
Thanks all!
SC
I'm taking the January LSAT and it was suggested to me I do a couple of practice tests in the morning (8:30AM when the actual LSAT starts) to get as realistic of an experience possible before the actual exam. Today I took the June 2007 exam to get a feel for it, and my score tanked from my average (162) to a 156. So I'm kind of freaking out.
LR was fine, and pretty much how I usually score. My average is -4 and in the two sections, I scored -2 and -5.
My LG was a complete disaster. My average is -5 and I got -11. Could this be because it's an old test?
My RC was also unusually low. I'm not the strongest in RC in general -- I average 7.. but this time I also got -11. I attribute it to being tired in the morning which is something I'm going to work on these next few weeks before the exam.
I'm really looking for guidance as to whether or not the LG games on this exam are unusually difficult, or if this is a sign that I need to improve in the section all around.
I’m retaking in March and have full time available to study. I took the test in November and received a 155 with a PT average of 157-160. I’ve tried self studying with the Bible’s at first but found them a little overwhelming. Then, I used a tutor who was very helpful in getting the basics down but still find myself having issues. I know what my weaknesses are: reading comp as a whole, timing in LG, necessary and sufficient assumptions in LR, LR questions that are in difficulty 3-4 (Q’s 17+ on test usually). I’ve started blind reviewing and keep a log of each question I got wrong and right and why I got it wrong versus why the right answer is right. My goal is to get a 164+ on the LSAT and get into the University of Minnesota at least (I have a 3.89 GPA).
I was wondering if I should take a 7sage course or continue studying on my own? I should mention I have every PT available and PDFs of question/game types still from my tutor.
Is it pointless to purchase the LSAT Trainer if you already have ultimate+ and access to all the drilling material 7Sage has to offer? I'm retaking this year and one aspect of my studies I want to change is focusing more on drills.
I am giving the LSAT another go but I now have a full time job; I work 7:30-4:30 Mon-Fri. Any tips on studying while working full time? I've heard weekends are where you hit it hard.
Hey 7sage,
Did y'all change the way the Analytics page works or something? I put in my answers for PT 20 LR S1 and when I hit ENTER, I can't see the answers I put of my BR answers anymore. It doesn't show them. Is it just my computer? Or it's just PT20? What's up?
Thanks!
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