Hi all:

I have a question regarding the core curriculum. How did you complement it/with what [other] resources? For instance, I know that with some other LSAT study tools, "homework" is an incorporated part of the curriculum. But I'm not sure that 7sage has something similar, at least not that I have found. So how did you go about creating that for yourself, if at all (and if not, why.)? I've gotten a chance to look through the Question Bank and even do some practice drills there but am still looking for more structure. Tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

I'm a longtime lurker and first time poster on 7sage. I noticed that a lot of people tend to only use the free explanation videos that 7sage offers for logic games, or the starter pack, but they are always unsure if the higher packages are worth it. I just wanted to make this thread to give my experience as well as my thank you to 7sage and the community.

In short, I think the higher packages are 100% worth it and for me, the reason was JY and his explanations for every question. Anyone who has watched enough of his explanation videos will see the confidence he has in eliminating wrong answers and that confidence, I found, was contagious.

I met every question with the confidence (and sass) of JY and found that the test is a lot less intimidating that way. It wasn't just that everyone answer was wrong, it was that it was so wrong there's no way you could pick it. Throughout my test, I had my own little JY in my head helping me, with a constant "there you go" whenever I found the right answer.

So I wanted to thank JY and the community for helping me to get into law school and for everyone who lurks the forums and wonders if the course is worth it, trust me it is.

Disclaimer: It doesn't matter if you are applying to a top law school or not and everyone opinion matter.

I had some free time yesterday so i had a conversation with a recent graduate from the school i am interested in going to for my law studies (UMiami) and she expressed to me that she and a few of her friends were having a hard time finding jobs or landing interviews (sports and entertainment law, corporate law etc) and they are all in the top 10% of their class.After the conversation i went onto BLS.gov to see what the job market for lawyers looked like and its a little discouraging to see that its only going to grow about 8% in the next few years. So i wanted to get everyone opinion on the whole "after law school" topic. maybe you all can even shed some light on this topic as i am a career changer and i would love to learn more about everyone plans as far as what you're planing on studying in law school and the job market on that particular filed.

Okay, here’s the thing: I scored 162 (-18) on the June 2007 LSAT two weeks ago (a decent score for cold diag, isn’t it?), and I wasn’t even trying that hard. I got a -8 on RC, -7 on LR, and -3 on LG within the imposed time limit. I have never taken a LSAT and knew absolutely nothing about it before.

In fact, after taking the official cold diag test, I figured that LSAT is not as hard as everyone has been telling me. I came to believe that I can aim at a 175 in June and crack Harvard with my 3.63 UGPA and my fabulous PS (Yes, I have a compelling story to tell, and literally ALL the sample PS that I read were not as good as mine).

So after watching a few tutorials on 7sage, I aimed straight at the “most difficult LG/RC/LR sections ever” rated by students last week. Well, I was devastated, and I realized that I have definitely overestimated my intelligence and underestimated the difficulty of the test. The worst record was that I got -12 on RC, -8 on one LR section alone, and it took me over 30 minutes to figure out the dinosaur game. I always find standardized tests easy (I am not a native speaker of English but I got 163 on GRE verbal without studying AT ALL), but not this time.

I have not taken many PTs by now because I went straight from the cold diag to the most difficult sections in LSAT history, and I have no idea about the average difficulty of the tests in recent years. Passages such as Eileen Gray is daunting, but I know it is considered to be one of the most difficult RC passages that ever to appear.

So, may I ask if anyone who scored around 160 on the cold diag test ever felt the same as I did? Is the cold diag test really easier than most of the PTs?

I guess I would have to know this before making proper adjustments to my study plan. Thank you for your comments in advance.

So basically, I'm registered to take the June 2018 LSAT and I've been studying for a little over a year now. I'm just now realizing that if I can just go -0 to -3 in LG, It will bring my PT trends to my goal score of 170+ I have been taking 1-3 practice tests a week until I realized this a few days ago.

Since today is Feb 15th, I was thinking, how does It sound if starting today, I only drill logic games until March 11th (3 months away from the June test) then continue with my weekly PTs, targeting problem areas and LR and RC stuff, everything. Or should I be honing in on all three sections –– instead of just LG –– during this PT hiatus?

It seems my course page is frozen, I can not use the collapse function to access to next part. Help needed! Thx!

Hey,

My university and pre-law advisor is asking me to put together a list of the resources I used to do well on the exam and for the process of applying. The list is geared toward underserved communities. I know that other people probably used different programs (Blueprint, TestMaster, 7sage).

I was wondering if you guys know of any 'secret' resources that you've used. For example, I know there is an NYC nonprofit that offers consultation to low-income applicants for free. Anything would help.

Thanks.

JK

this may be a stupid question , but I have been fool proofing games for about a month and i am up to pt 20, but i was wondering do i need to go back and do old games that i have done from the previous weeks? The way i have been doing the games are, First i start out doing the game with a stop watch record my time, then i would watch the video then do that game the next day, and if i get all the answers right after doing it under-timed condition i would move on to the next game. I do notice that i am improving and my speed is getting better but i dont want to skip a step.

So I don't kill trees / pay for copier toner CEO's grandchildren's education.

As I force myself to take a week off studying (took Feb LSAT and went into it knowing I would retest), I am spending this week doing some administrative things to prep for the next study build. I plan to work on fool proofing LG hard and have ~110 LG games I've already seen that I will use to grind through, I am planning on modifying the logistics of the method for my own uses. As printer toner for my copier costs a mint, I am only printing out a single copy of each LG. I have placed each LG in a document protector and filled a 2 inch notebook with the games. Instead of killing trees / toner burning x10 copies each, I'm just using colored dividers to create subsections in the notebook according to where each LG game is in my process. Today's game, tomorrow's game, take in x days, un-mastered/mastered. It will be slightly different in that I won't mark up the actual game to do my practice, but by this point, I know how to use the page during an actual PT or test. So I only move the one page LG (in its own cozy document protector) to the appropriate place in the folder and practice the game as scheduled. I'm actually still performing the LG fool proofing steps without paying for Lord Business' next Caribbean vacation.

YMMV, just sharing a technique.

When you have taken the LSAT and submitted transcripts do law schools get an early view of your profile? Why do visiting law schools at my campus ask for my LSAC number? Is there any way law schools view you and are interested or is it only after you submit an application? Do law schools actively hunt for potential students or they just wait until the application period opens and see who submits?

Ok, so I have been pondering this for a while but haven't posted anything because well...I've been embarrassed. I started initially studying for the LSAT about 3 years ago, at first I didn't realize how serious this test was so I kind of just went into Barnes and Noble and bought run of the mill LSAT Prep Books, a Kaplan book and even an LSAT Prep book for Dummies(smh) at the time I was working full time teaching high school in Miami. Fast forward to the fall of 2016 I started to get a little more serious, I bought the LSAT Trainer and thinking that I would have more time on my hands in the spring of the year while I was still teaching (wth) I signed myself up for an in-person Testmasters course. Testmasters was pretty great except for the cost and the fact that I didn't actually have the time to work on the assigned homework outside of class. After this I decided to move back home and find a job that would allow me the time to focus on studying for this exam, I loved teaching, but it can be extremely taxing and I didn't believe it would allow me the time to do what was necessary for this test. This past winter I was attempting to self-study by using practice tests and drilling, but I realized that I really need video explanations to help me improve and a schedule to follow to keep me on track so I spent a bucket of cash to extend my Testmasters course for the December 2017 test. I though about extending it again but I realized 1.) I wasn't getting explanations for the all the questions I needed, often times I would have to ask "academic support" and wait a day for a response and 2.) the courses were only for 2-3 increments, I am still working full time and while I plan to study full time during the summer, I don't have the time to do so now.

I am posting this because I really need some advice, if someone asked me to run analytics on my LSAT profile I would definitely say that TIME is my biggest issue. I was always the last person finishing a test in high school and college, I may have gotten everything right, but I definitely didn't race to the finish line. I have a good grasp of the basics, and how to approach the different types of questions in LR and focusing on structure in RC. I would definitely say Logic Games are my weakness, but I would also say that Reading Comprehension is the section on which I need to increase my speed the most. Keeping that in mind I have been thinking about focusing on Fool Proofing until I reach -0 on Logic Games and starting the Premium course to get myself on a schedule for RC and LR.

I was originally thinking about doing the June 2018 LSAT but I am off during the summer so I though this would be a great opportunity to focus on studying full time to take the July or September test, but I want to put myself on a schedule now rather than leaving my intense studying until the summer; I also want to keep things fresh so I don't have to go back and re-teach myself key lessons.

What do you guys think? I want to focus on Fool Proofing using the Pacifico Method until I am able to consistently score -0 in LG but I also don't want to forget the skills for LR and RC. Should I put off PT-ing until I have been able to reach -0 in LR/LG and RC? Or am I thinking about this totally wrong? My apologies if this seems confusing my your help is much appreciated!!!

So i plan on taking the june administration and i have 12 fresh PTs sprinkled from 50-83 i plan on spreading them out over the next 4 months so that i can use them as a proper benchmark. My question is should i supplement older PTs [from 35-50] which are untouched or should i reuse the tests i have taken from the 60s. Thanks in advance

Hey guys,

I know that most of you guys are aware that there will be more test dates added this year, however, I was wondering if anyone knew when we would be able to register for them...

I am already registered to take the exam in June but would prefer to take it in July...does anyone know if that would be possible?

I just wanted to hop on real fast and say sorry to the community! I haven't been super active the past week or so because I'm stressing out over some stuff the LSAC is doing and it's impacting my applications horribly. I promise once this is resolved I'll be able to get back to answering questions and giving suggestions/motivation!

I'm still here! :D

I have no experience at all with the LSAT except for the 1st 4 lessons on here. Should I do the diagnostic test now or should I come back after I’ve done some more of the course work? I know that the point of a diagnostic is to gauge where I stand, but I don’t even know what the test looks like or what kind of questions to expect…is it worth it to bomb the first one out of inexperience or would it be more productive to wait until I see how the test questions are formatted?

Tell me what you think your top 5 favorite courses will be with whatever prior knowledge you have about the courses. This does not have to be the end all be all LOL.

ABA 1L courses include

civil procedure

constitutional law

contracts

criminal law and criminal procedure

legal writing and research

property law

torts

I think mines will be

4.Property law

Sometimes we'll receive a notification or message about a webinar or a message about our progress. I think they appear in a little chat box when you first receive them. How do I access those? They're not in my inbox.

Edit: Found them! They're on the Contact Us page.

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself. I just recently purchased the 7sage course after taking a 3 month LSAT prep course through another company and sitting for the Feb 18 LSAT. My practice test scores were all coming out between low to high 160's, but I definitely do not feel I performed that way on test day.

I tried doing my PT's under accurate test day conditions, but oh boy does the real thing still feel different. I definitely succumbed to test day anxiety and found myself rushed on certain sections and struggling on question types I'm normally pretty confident in.

Anyway, my question is what is the consensus on score cancellations? I see this course recommends longer study times before sitting for your first LSAT, and now that the two-year limit has been removed and LSAT sends your average score on all LSAT's as well as individual scores to schools - is it worth considering a cancellation if you feel you under performed where you should be?

Thanks, and looking forward to chatting with everyone!

Anyone else have this issue? I've reinstalled the app.

I took the LSAT back in 2008-2009. I took Kaplan prep course which did not help in any way. The instructor was on speed and just assumed everyone understood what was being taught. I got 140. Then self studied and again, got 140. It was terrible. I honestly felt lost; Defeated. I gave up, hating this test because it just made me feel so stup*d. Anyways fast forward to 2018, I've decided to try again, yes ten years later. -__- I'm trying to find a really good course program, one that does not assume everyone is the smartest person on the planet, if that makes sense. I've been out of school for ten years so I am like literally starting back up from dirt.

I've seen so many online courses, I came across 7sage, Alpha score, and the LSAT trainer. I've read terrible reviews about the LSAT trainer, but haven't really seen any reviews on 7sage and Alpha Score. Can anyone give any feed back on any of these two? I'm really looking for a course that's really going to break down and explain each section to where the average joe (me) can get it.

I feel like I have enough time to really learn how to finally get a decent score on this test. At least I think I do.

After taking the LSAT a few times, I feel like the self-imposed pressure of the real tests has caused me to rush during the test. I've had trouble simulating the actual nerves on the test. I'm too relaxed during PT's. Truthfully, that relaxation is what I'd like to achieve, since it has helped me score high PT's. And I'll think some more on that. However, I want to shake it up a little. I am thinking of trying all the section in 30 mins. Obviously, there is a point where this becomes absurd. How about 25 mins? How about 20? I'll play around with it, but any thoughts on how to ramp up the pressure in PT's so that it can feel closer to a real test?

Hello,

So I took the February 2018 LSAT but I am anticipating to retake it this June.

I think I did well (probably around 168-173), but I think I can do better next time.

That being said, I think I currently only have 5 full PT left. Usually my study consist of mostly doing full PT and BRing.

I haven't done PT 1-35, although obviously I have done many of the QS from the curriculum and the LG drill.

My last 5 PT averages are 171.

Any tips as to how I can improve my score on my June LSAT?

Thanks!

Warning: long post ahead.

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on submitting an LSAT addendum? I'm really embarrassed to say this and to list my scores, but I took the LSAT last Saturday for the fourth time. I have taken the test three others times: Sept. 2016 (142), June 2017 (145), and Sept. 2017 (145). I have very bad test anxiety, and during the September 2017 test I had a panic attack. After receiving my September score, which was lower than I thought I'd get, I went to my doctor and was prescribed beta-blockers. I was scoring in the 150s on every PT I took leading up to the exam, but a week before the test I had a meltdown, emailed my advisor and instructor, and both told me not to put the test off and just take it. I have always been someone who trusts their intuition, so I am mad at myself for not holding off.

Fast forward to last Saturday's test: leading up to the test my score jumped to a 158 on PTs and I was scoring consistently higher in each section. I was pretty calm for most of the week, but Saturday morning I was clearly anxious (my heart rate was ~115 beats/minute). I ended up taking a beta blocker before the test, but I still feel like I didn't score well again this time. I could be wrong (and honestly this could just be nerves), but I'm wondering how an LSAT addendum would be taken if the reason for low scores is due to test anxiety? I don't think I would have test anxiety in law school - I think the reason I get even more anxious taking the LSAT is that I feel like this test is the only thing stopping me from getting admitted. I also don't know if an admissions committee will look negatively at this, and question whether I'd get test anxiety in law school and when taking the Bar? I'm also concerned because I already have an addendum for my GPA. It's considered low; it's a 3.02. All honest opinions/advice welcome. Thank you!

Side note: I would get in to my state school and others I'm interested in with a score in the 150s - I don't have the GPA for a T-14. I do, however, have very strong softs!

Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. Back ground first, actual question further down, skip if you want:

Background: I'm going in on the Ultimate package this Friday and looking to start my build up for my next run at the LSAT. I just sat for the Feb 18 LSAT (1st "real" LSAT score) and as expected, the LG sections (thanks experimental) threw me for a loop. LG is by far my weakest section. Bullet points on my history: Self study for ~6 months (LSAT Trainer, Manhattan LR, PS LG Bible). 20 full PTs in during previous build, diagnostic 147 (I got 3 right on LG on my diagnostic), with a slow but steady increase over the next 19 (10 out of the last 11 PTs score range from 160-164 with a rolling average of ~162 for the last 5). LR typical performance is ~20-22 questions complete with -0/-3 range, RC typical performance is all passages read, all questions answered with ~-3/-4, LG on a good day sees me completing 3 games and 1st question on last one with -4/-5. I'm retired military / stay at home dad with a decent amount of time to dedicate to LSAT study. I tend to max out "good study" at 4-5 hours a day and I like to reserve at least one full weekend day to not study / family time. I've religiously watched the 7Sage LG videos during review and they have really helped my understanding increase, but I'm not where I want to be at this point.

I want to take the full CC to tighten up my knowledge / understanding of the test across all three sections and hopefully increase speed as a natural result of a deeper understanding (vs trying to "go faster"). I also know that LG is my weakest by far and the area in which I can hopefully close the gap the most. I want to target one of the next three LSAT dates (June / July / Sept) and apply to school during the fall of this year. I'll sign up for a testing date after I start scoring at / above my desired target (169).

ACTUAL QUESTION: Is it reasonable to take the CC and start fool proofing LG at the same time? I envision 2-3 hours of CC and 1-2 hours of LG specific work (fool proofing) a day. Is it reasonable for me to do both concurrently and obtain the learning objectives I have given where I am in my current understanding of each section?

Thanks in advance. This is a great community / supportive space. As a guy soon turning 46, I tend to chuckle when I read the people half my age worrying about starting law school "too late" in life. :) I'm not worried about my age in law school, I'm worried about finding a first time law job at 50...

Hello,

So on a PC I am able to press the button to get out of a full screen and revert back if needed, but I am unable to do so on a Mac or iPad. Could this be fixed? Does anyone else have this problem?

I feel like 7sage.com works better on a pc than a mac. Please help.