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If I am consistently getting stuck on two questions in a game, do I just keep re-doing the game? I’m really struggling with in/out games... I get the rules and logic, but it’s the inferences that I’m struggling with. I know the response is to fool proof and go back to fundamentals if I need to....but I’ve done this question 10+ times, and ALWAYS get stuck on the last two questions. For whatever reason, these inferences wont stick. It’s game 3 from PT 11...a 2 star question, but question 18 and 19 get me every time.

Any tips on remembering tricky inferences?

Hi everyone,

I came across this sample "most strongly supported" question online. I found no record of it as an official LSAT question, so I suspect it's created by the website. I am having a hard time understanding the reasoning behind the credited answer (C) and would like some outsider advice on my own reasoning.

Here is the question:

When pregnant lab rats are given caffeine equivalent to the amount a human would consume by drinking six cups of coffee per day, an increase in the incidence of birth defects results. When asked if the government would require warning labels on products containing caffeine, a spokesperson stated that it would not because the government would lose credibility if the finding of these studies were to be refuted in the future.

(A) A warning that applies to a small population is inappropriate.

(B) Very few people drink as many as six cups of coffee a day.

(C) There are doubts about the conclusive nature of studies on animals.

(D) Studies on rats provide little data about human birth defects.

(E) The seriousness of birth defects involving caffeine is not clear.

I eliminated all but C and D, and my reasoning for weighing D over C is as follows:

I took C to mean "animals" as "all animals", in which case the statement can be negated and still be consistent with the government statement (if there aren't doubts about the conc nature of all animal studies, it simply means some are not... we don't know if this addresses rats in particular at all)

D did not seem great either but I figured it was better than C

However, if C said "some animals" then I would be completely in agreement.

Any input would be much appreciated, as well as whether you think the question is poorly devised or allows too much ambiguity (I have yet to come across an LSAT question like this).

Hi! Is there anyone in the Ottawa area that wants to take a test together? I suck at PTing alone, and would love to have a few mock-LSAT writes before the Feb exam.

I've taken the LSAT three times and have one cancel. I scored in the 94th percentile on my highest take.

Hi all,

My true diagnostic score was a 149, I just finished the CC and took PT36. Unfortunately I scored a 154, which seems to suggest scarcely any improvement (aside from LG) despite 4 months of prep.

For June 2007: Total LR: -17, RC -13, LG -13

For 36: Total LR -18, RC -10, LG -9

I am wondering, is this normal? I know a lot of people have seen massive improvement after the CC alone, so it makes me feel like I did something wrong while going through it.

For now do I try to push my BR score to +5 above my goal score? Do I just follow Sage Josh's Post CC strategy word-for-word? Any advice on how to interpret this helps.

Thanks

Taking my first (and most likely not final haha) lsat in Feb which is less than a month away now. I've been having some trouble trying to finish sections under the time constraint. Most of it is me usually having a brain fart while reading and having to re-read over and over again as well as not fully understanding RC passages and having to underline things which takes up so much time. With BR and spending as much time as I can on each section I've been able to get in the 160-165 range but with the timer on I leave about a whole section blank because I'm not able to finish.

The exam is so close and I'm getting super worried and anxious :( I've been trying to take as many timed practice tests as possible but I'm not sure at this point it will help much. Any advice or suggestions?

Hi guys,

I'm a new 7Sager and this is my first post! I am tentatively aiming to take the November 2018 or January 2019 test, with an end goal of entering law school in fall of 2020 (I am a junior in college).

I just took my timed diagnostic LSAT last week (the June 2007 one) and scored a 162 (-3 LG, -4.5 LR, -7 RC). I was pretty happy with this score, apart from RC (I actually expected it to be my best section). My dream is to get to 175+ (ideally 180 but I know that's nearly impossible). I am wondering how people who have achieved this went about it- what was your diagnostic score and how long did you study for? With a 162 diagnostic do I have a shot at getting there?

I have not purchased a 7Sage course yet but am planning on it soon. I have already bought the LSAT Trainer book but haven't looked at it yet. Considering this, which course do people recommend I purchase? I am leaning towards Ultimate+ but money is tight.

Looking forward to getting to know you all, this community seems fantastic :)

Hey all! So I'm going through a bit of a nervous breakdown (the one I promised myself I wouldn't have until after February exam). Here's a little background story: I took a live Blueprint class from June - September while studying full time. I look the Sept LSAT and scored roughly 10 points lower than my average PT score and was devastated. I immediately signed up for the December exam and registered with 7sage the same day. I figured I would change my study routine and choose a different prep class since I wasn't too stoked about Blueprint. Unfortunately, I was incredibly burned out after the September exam, so I didn't make the efforts I intended to make. However, I still tried to study as much as I possibly could. I studied about 25-30 hours a week on average but mainly did practice exams and didn't use 7sage much. I took the December exam and did worse on that one than the September one. Embarrassing, I know. I signed up for February the same day I got my score and made a promise with myself to be open minded and stick to 7sage from now until Feb. I'm not working right now, so I am able to dedicate myself to a full time study schedule. I am ready to get started and hopefully score well the third time.. but I'm super overwhelmed now and need some suggestions/help/advice with the following:

For the people who are/were in my situation or anyone who can provide insight, how did you study in between exams? Right now, I am dedicating one week each to individual sections. I'm ending this week on Sunday with having finished the LG lessons/drills from here. I was doing so well and feeling confident up until today. My brain just crashed. All the games I was able to do yesterday under 8 minutes, I couldn't do today for the life of me. I think it's a mixture of burn out and I feel a bit confused from 7sage's methods and Blueprints. Blueprint does things a little differently, and I'm having a hard time merging what I already know and what I am learning together without getting confused. I am mainly confused about conditional statements and the overall setup on grouping games. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

I haven't submitted any applications yet because I am waiting for my February score. I am hoping to score between 7-10 points higher than my September exam. Keep in mind I scored lower on my December exam. Am I being unrealistic in thinking I can make that type of jump next month? I have major test anxiety and my fight or flight needs to calm tf down. Still trying to work on that. However, am I making the wrong decision in waiting to submit apps until after I get my score?

I've been fool proofing LG and I'm noticing some improvement. However, I haven't BR'd any of my practice exams yet. The reason I haven't done that yet is because I feel like I don't have time to take my time and don't want to get used to taking longer than about a minute on questions. Am I being ridiculous?

Any advice is much appreciated! Thanks in advance, everyone. :)

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Decent improvement? Is there hope? Or is this too terrible for any hope? Ha. Wasn't much of a jump. Although I am glad it went up rather than down. I don't think I BR as well as I could/should. I find myself not knowing an answer and I say to myself fuck it I just don't know if it's right so move along. Finally got that PT following the CC out of the way. Now onto drills & FP!

So I'm currently debating between two wildly different ideas for my personal statement: one about the world of undergraduate moot court (I took the class for three years and it really solidified my desire to pursue law school) and another about a week long camping trip in the Grand Canyon where I had some near death experiences. Obviously, the first topic is way more directly relevant to law school, however I also feel that the second is unique and potentially more interesting. Any thoughts?

Is it true that the June LSAT has the most unforgiving curve?

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Do you restrict BR to only the LR sections? Or BR more, or all?

Hey all,

Long time lurker here. Now that I am almost done with apps, I figured that it would be nice to give back to the community for once.

So, my background:

Took the LSAT in September, got a score in the mid 160s

Was left with only Preptest 82 and Preptest C2 for my December LSAT

After I received my September scores, I was scared - I mean, I have literally used pretty much every single preptest (except for those two mentioned and yes, I managed to get my hands on the so called unreleased ones as well), and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have the necessary practice for the December LSAT.

Guess what? It has been said many times before, but I will say it again - reusing preptests works.

The difference between how I prepped my September LSAT and the December LSAT was that I spent the bulk of my time writing explanations. This might not work for you, but it worked for me - I began to see patterns and if you can explain something in your own words, chances are good that you would know how to tackle something similar to it.

Anyways, on to the day itself. I am not a good standardized test taker, and I freaked out for the logic games section as I was unsure of how to proceed with the first logic game. That said, I looked at it for 2 minutes and I moved on. Probably saved me as I went back later and it was actually a really simple game. Finished the section with 5 minutes remaining. I ran out of time for the logic games section on the September LSAT, and a large part of that was down to NOT SKIPPING GAMES when it is time to move on. So, I would say that skipping is key, and I know that that is something that JY says in his logic games videos a lot, but please, do yourself a favor - skip when necessary!

Phew, long post, but if you made it this far, thanks for hearing me out. I will answer questions on this thread if you guys have any, and for those of you taking the LSAT, good luck and remember to take out the trash (LSAT, I am looking at you)!

LSAT Garbage Man

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So working full time and not being able to study as much as I want is not only getting to me physically (I'm tired all the time) but emotionally - I find myself losing momentum during the week because work takes over and I'm slowly feeling like my law school dreams are impossible. I really want to go to a T14- preferably a T-7 but this process seems so impossible, sometimes I feel like giving up and just trying to get into SMU down the road (which is not a bad school just not what I envision for my journey). I'm really trying not to give up here but it's getting harder and harder :(

I've been studying for the LSAT since June and I'm taking the Feb test for a third and final time. I need guidance to a hard core study schedule. Not sure where to begin, honestly. My weak area is LG but, there's definitely room for improvement in LR. Thank you!

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Hello,

I'm posting this to get some of you guys' recommendation about the best way to make use of my available time to improve on my LSAT. Since my classes will not start until January 16, I have a lot of time to study for the LSAT.

Just a little background, I'll be taking the LSAT on Feb 10 and I've been averaging around 168 on my PTs. I am aiming to get 173+ on my LSAT.

Here's what I've been doing everyday:

Here's some questions I have:

Should I keep doing one PTs everyday, or is this an inefficient way to improve my score?

So, I know that JY recommends doing at most 3 PTs in a week, but I don't find myself getting burnt out doing one everyday, so I don't see any reason why I should stop doing this if it will help me improve. But I'd like to have some of you guys' opinion on this. I currently still have 20 PTs available to do.

How to improve my LR section? I currently average around -2 to -4. Should I just continue to do many many questions and review?

For LG, I've been doing the "Fool Proof" method recommended in the curriculum (redo all LGs that I missed, multiple times until I mastered it). I'll also be reading the powerscore LG soon. Any other tips?

How would you approach improving your score if you have a lot of time available?

Thank you very much!

Hey guys, I’m having a difficult time recording myself taking a timed test. I don’t have access to a camera until tomorrow (roommate borrowed it)but need to take a test today... any times on recording with an iPad/ laptop/ iPhone?

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I plan on taking the the LSAT in June. My first score on a practice lsat was 140 (low, I know). I have self studied to the mid 150's and just started this program yesterday, praying it can get me in the 160's. I have a 3.7 undergrad gpa in elementary education (a joke, I know), military experience, and teaching experience. What I am trying to get at is, will a 160 with these other softs get me into ASU or a school near the same ranking?