Hi everyone!

I'm pretty much set on beginning my LSAT studying using 7sage - yay! I'm hoping to take the test in either September or November. However, work will be very busy for the next ~4 months, so I'll have less time to study during the first half of the year as compared to the second half of the year.

How much time should be dedicated to each course option? (Does it even make sense for me to ask this question? I don't know how the courses work.) I know they allow for a "personalized schedule," but I imagine that a general amount of time should be dedicated to studying with course per week/month.

Essentially, I'd like to figure out whether to save the 7Sage course for later this year when I'll have more capacity.

Thank you kindly!

I am curious towards your approach on ordering and structuring the course content.

Did you follow the syllabus and do it chronologically?

Or did you jump between the sections and PT’s?

Did you put heavy emphasis on learning fundamentals of lawgic?

Or jump straight into drilling problem sets?

How many days a week did you study and for how long?

What was something that you personally thought of or did that helped information stick?

In hindsight, were there any weaknesses in your study habits/style?

You get the drift..

Regards,

Dalton

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So I've been admitted and got my financial aid award letter and it was shocking to say the least. They are going to let me take the LSAT again and if I score higher I can report that score and have my scholarship increased with the possibility of a full ride.

I took the LSAT in sept and got a 149. I prepped hard and totally bombed my best section LR. I went -3/5 on the other sections and averaged a 156 on prep tests.

my question is:

Where do I even begin?

Hi!

Is there any way to pre-download the videos through the 7Sage mobile app? This way you could watch them should you use public transit to work (I live in NYC and have a 45 minute subway commute where I could be easily focusing on videos; thats 1.5 hours more study time per day)?

If not, how could we go about suggesting such an app development to the creators? Anyone else want this feature, if it doesn't already exist?

Hi everyone,

I bubble my answer immediately after I completed a question, but I started to doubt whether this is a efficient way or not.

What are you guys' strategies on bubbling?

Thanks.

Can anyone who is familiar with the February tests confirm that every single non-experimental question on the February test have been previously tested on other test takers (through experimental sections on their tests or outside-of-us administered tests, etc)? I heard that February tests have unusual questions so I was wondering. Maybe people mistakenly feel like the content is unusual only because they don't get to see which questions they got wrong??

Hi all! First post on here. So.... I took the December 2017 LSAT. It was a disaster for me. I had been self studying since around March of 2017 and took a Blueprint course over the summer with the plan to take the September LSAT. However, I postponed because my PTs had been getting worse leading up to September, so I thought I needed more time. My initial timed diagnostic PT was 159, and I had been PTing consistently in the low to mid 160s. I scored a 145 on the December LSAT... It was tragic. I couldn't sleep the night before. I just didn't think I would score as low as I did and I honestly have no idea what happened that day. I truly had to rethink if I had what it takes for law school. I was all set to apply this cycle; obviously with such a low score I had to postpone for a year. SO, I've been taking the last few months off from anything LSAT related and now I think I'm ready to start studying again. I'm signed up for the June test.

Obviously, I need to really start from the beginning and go through all the fundamentals to get it down again. I used the LSAT Trainer, Blueprint classroom course and 7sage for games. I had done PT 42 - 78. How would I go about retaking PT's? Erase all my work and try again? I also work full-time, so I cannot study more than a few hours or so a day with the exception of the weekend. My boss actually paid for my Blueprint course, and I feel awful that I did not do well. Should I just use the material that I have - re-read LSAT trainer / utilize materials from Blueprint and go from there? Should I purchase the 7sage course?

Any recommendations from whoever has been in a similar situation would be great. Thanks all!

I’m under the impression that schools emailing you to apply are doing so just to get there apps up, and therefore, have a lower admittance rate (although it’s obviously a business that needs attendees, too). I haven’t really given it much thought until I got an email from Harvard today. Any thoughts?

Hi- Cannot seem to grasp this question type. Any study advice or help?

Hi all, is there a way to print out questions from the QBbank? I would like to start drilling LR questions and find it easier to do them on actual paper so I can take notes and underline what is important to retain. Thanks.

Hey guys, a 7Sager asked a question and I thought you guys could help out! Here it is:

I have about 10 fresh PTs left and I'm registered for the February test, and was wondering if it would be advisable for me to leave all of them untouched for the June test or to go through only the LG sections before the Feb test? I heard there are a lot of curveballs/weird games for the late 70s tests which I haven't solved yet, and so I thought it would be a good idea to get as much exposure to them.

And in the meanwhile, would it be best for me to re-take older PTs that I've forgotten and hardcore blind review like we did together?

Hi,

I take like hours to review questions that I got it wrong... I go through every answers and try to figure it out why each is wrong or right...

I've noticed if I review like 10 questions.. I spend almost an hour... sometimes more..

Am I the only one who's taking this long? Is this normal?

Hey There is this question in one of the quizzes and we are supposed to negate it:

Drug-related crime is not as serious a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

I read it as “all” drug related crime is not as serious a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

So wouldn’t this be the negation: Some drug related crime is as serious as the mayor claims it is or more?

This is the answer that was written for the quiz:

It’s not the case that drug-related crime is not as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is.

Drug-related crime is just as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is, or it is more serious. (Which is the same thing as saying – some drug related crime is as serious of a problem for the city as the mayor claims it is)

Anyone?

So in fall, back when I was hoping for this cycle, I met with my recommenders, then had to let them know I'm delaying until the next cycle. Now I just want to send them a quick update so we stay in the loop with our communications and so they can make plans for scheduling the writing and letter submission in the next several months. Has anyone written one of these interim emails before?

I am new to 7sage and I have not completed the cc yet and am wondering if I should finish the cc before I start drilling the topics that I recently finished with. Any help would be great, thanks guys.

This is sort of random. I'm not exactly superstitious. I do strongly believe in the power of mind control and know that mindset plays a powerful role in the LSAT. Also, I know confidence is important. So, this happens to me, and I'm wondering if to anyone else. For instance in LG fool-proofing. I get on a roll where I'm doing fantastic. I'm getting -0 and under JY's recommended time. Then I feel great, I mean I feel great. Then, shortly thereafter, I'll screw up. And I think it's my confidence that gets in the way. I screw up and then curse myself. But then, once I have that awful feeling of sucking, I do better again. But, the happy feeling feels much better than does the discouraging feeling. It's like the discouraging feeling helps me to pay more attention to the rules. Being on cloud 9 has my judgment cloudy. How do I level this playing field for myself? Do I need to go into my test feeling like shit and doubting myself in order to do well? That does not sound like the type of mindset anyone would suggest... * sigh *

Do all Law Schools use the index formula that computes your UGPA? adding withdrawals and f's into your gpa? I am mainly interested in which schools in New York follow that. Thank you

Hello everyone!

I was hoping that someone could give me some advice on how to tackle the LSAT if you are a slow reader.

A little background: I wrote the LSAT this past september, scored 145, rewrote in December and scored 155. I am re-wrtiging again in two weeks, and I have been improving consistently. However, one thing I don't seem to improve on is my reading speed. I consistently don't get to answer the last 5 questions in arguments, and I always barely make it through 3 out of 4 passages. If I try to read faster, I start misunderstanding what I read and get lost. Overall this has been very frustrating. I would really appreciate if anyone could give me some points on how to fix this! I don't think I can handle writing this test more than 3 times :|

Hello everyone!

A couple weeks ago I posted a discussion and many people thought it would be a great idea to have a thread dedicated to helpful tips for those who have to balance working full-time with their study routine. Well here's the thread! I've tapped @"Cant Get Right" and @LSATcantwin, two Sages who worked full time while studying and still managed to score 170+ on the LSAT, to give us some helpful tips on what we can do to beat this test all while working 40+ hour weeks, taking care of families, running errands and all around keeping our lives afloat. Below are their answers in a Q&A Format, and I gotta say, it's some GREAT advice. So if you're feeling overwhelmed with work and study, definitely take a few minutes to read. I've also included the recording from @"Accounts Playable" 's AMA from 1/8/18 below. Starting at ~42 min he gives some awesome tips to those who go to school full time and are studying as well. Happy Reading + Happy Studying!

Q&A with @LSATcantwin

Score Range

Diagnostic: 151, Attempt 1: 157, Attempt 2: 163; Attempt 3, 171

Length of study time

Year and a half (May 2016 - Dec 2017). From May 2017 until October 2017 I studied about 20 hours a week.

What successful study habits did you incorporate into your routine while working full time?

Lunch became dedicated LSAT time. It was an extra hour I got to throw into the mix each day. I would eat and review questions or do LG. Half my commute was spent on public trans, I would do LG or study LR on the train as well.

What was your ideal study schedule and how did that help you reach your goal score?

Monday - Friday; Get to work an hour early and study. Study during my hour lunch break, study 2 hours or so at night when I got home. (4 hours or so a day) (2 hours at night included blind review of my Sat PT); Saturday; Timed PT; Sunday; rest.

How did you find the time to juggle work with studying?

Basically just took any "free time" I could find and dedicated it to LSAT.

What concrete tips can you give those who are struggling working full time while studying part time?

Burnout is real and it isn't only the LSAT that can cause it. Remember to give yourself breaks, down time and sleep. Don't compare yourself to other people studying. Lots of people are going to be studying full time or only working part time. They might make faster progress than you, but you'll still make progress I promise. Time management is key. With 40 hours a week dedicated to our job free time is hard to come by. It is even more limited when you have other responsibility to worry about (children, dishes, cooking, cleaning, friends, family...) I gave up running and working out for more time. Because I love cheese I gained about 20lbs over the year and a half....Time to start running again! haha! Remember to be as open as you can with your employer/family/friends. I sent a massive text to all my friends explaining my situation. I apologized and told them I was not ignoring them or blowing them off. I made it clear that my goal was T-14 and I was working my butt off to get there. My friends understood and did not hold it against me. I did much the same with my family.

What were some mistakes you learned during your study process?

Don't do things that are unnatural for you. I tried waking up before work (at 4am) to study more. My body hated this, and in turn, I got nothing out of those hours of studying before work. Don't try and break yourself. Slow and steady will win the race. Don't be afraid to take extra time to study. Working full time will slow us down. Don't create a timeline. The LSAT isn't going anywhere, so make sure you are getting the score you want before you take the plunge.

Any other tips for success?

If you can't teach something to someone else, you probably don't understand it yourself. During my studying I spent a TON of time on 7Sage. My favorite posts were specific to questions. I would open them immediately and try and type out an answer that explained the question. In so doing I was able to spot many weaknesses because sometimes I couldn't explain why the right answer was correct. Other times I'd be able to explain it with relative ease and these were questions I knew I understood.

Q&A with @"Cant Get Right"

Score Range

Diagnostic: high 140's,

Officials: 163, 162, 170, 176

Length of study time

Two years+ (Summer 2015 - Sept 2017).

What successful study habits did you incorporate into your routine while working full time?

I set a very low daily minimum study time--one hour most days. One hour is manageable on the worst of days, and so it always got me started which was frequently the hardest part. I enjoyed studying and so I often found myself engaged and wanting to continue. Other days, I didn't. On those days, I fulfilled my minimum daily requirement and allowed myself to leave it at that without guilt. Studying for the LSAT requires high energy, and when the energy isn't there the returns on study time are going to be miniscule. Recharging and managing your energy is essential. In all seriousness, I learned to view taking one night off a week to eat pizza and catch up on TV as an essential part of my study routine.

What was your ideal study schedule and how did that help you reach your goal score?

Morning before work was always best. After work, there was very low chance of having the energy to study at a high level. I began going to bed earlier and earlier in order to create more and more study time before work. This allowed me to, in at least some small way, prioritize LSAT over work. Work took more of my time, but LSAT got me at my freshest.

How did you find the time to juggle work with studying?

Strict scheduling. Time management must be done proactively which was not something I was really used to. For the first time, I made a google calendar and began chopping my days into blocks. I accounted for as much as I could. Work went down first. Then sleep. Then LSAT. Then everything else. And the everything else is really important, so you have to leave space for it. I tried to be ambitious at first and devote every waking hour away from work to LSAT and that burned me out real fast. Flexibility is also important. Sometimes you just need to take a week off when you just can't stand to look at the test anymore. One time, I was taking a PT on my day off and I had a total meltdown. You can't let it get to that point.

What were some mistakes you learned during your study process?

I didn't adjust my timeline to my reality. I thought I could work full time and conquer the LSAT on the side in only a few months. This is a mistake many people make, but I think it's particularly destructive for those of us who work. My best score while still working was a 163. I came a long way in that time and that was a score that would open a world of possibilities to me. I had enough savings to leave my job and study full time, so I acknowledge that my advances after that are perhaps of questionable value for those who aren't able to quit work. However, I do think it's worth acknowledging that most of the mistakes I made were not corrected until after leaving my job, and leaving my job was not a part of those corrections. I didn't even find 7Sage until after I quit working. Looking back on it, I realize that it is much more important to study correctly than to study full time. It just takes longer. Had I continued working but made the same shift in my mentality, I am positive I would have been successful. On the other hand, I could have studied full time for a decade without changing my mentality, and I know I would have never improved.

Any other tips for success?

Seek understanding rather than a score--understanding of logic, understanding of language, understanding of testing strategy, understanding of every component of taking the LSAT. If you achieve a higher level of understanding, a higher score will follow. If you chase a score, you will always be trying to push beyond your understanding rather than advancing it.

AMA with 7Sager @"Accounts Playable" 1/8/18

Apparently, schools are aware of when you begin filling out an application for them. I began an application to a certain school but did not finish it, and just got an e-mail from them telling me that they know that I began an application to them and should get a move on finishing it by the end of the month!

So I'm about to finish with the Core Curriculum (the reading comprehension section - not all PTs). I'll be finished by early next week. Immediately after, I plan on taking the preptest to assess where I am at, but after that I'm not so sure. As you can see I'm not Ultimate +, so LG bundle is not an option - BUT I plan on getting the bundle by the end of next month (funds don't currently allow). In the meantime should I purchase the LSAT Trainer and go through it to reinforce material? Should I go through all of the CC drills again? Both? I'm not entirely sure what route to take post CC, with a month before purchasing Ultimate +. Thanks!

Hi 7Sage Community, I took my first practice test, with no knowledge of the LSAT back in late June 2017 and got a 148. I've been studying since then, but not as much as I could, and last weekend my score was 158, and 160 BR. I'm wondering if anyone on here has started with a score under 150, and excelled past 170? Is it possible if I put the time in before the June 2018 exam?

I've always done horribly on standardized tests, and the LSAT is no exception, even though I understand the tricks of the test makers a lot more than I ever understood the SAT (which I put minor time into studying for because I lacked self-discipline and time management skills in high school, even though I got all A-s and As in my Honors and AP classes through hard work and cram studying). I also have ADHD so that really doesn't help with the challenging time constraints of the LSAT.

Thank you!!

Hey there, I am new in 7Sage l was wondering if there is a video explanation for the small problem sets we get after some lessons. Thank you!!!

...but I just received an email from Yale inviting me to apply. Under “know” illusions (as in, “I know that Yale is a wash”—not getting it twisted on that) as to its significance for an app but I’m curious as to how I should treat the information that they send me for my app.

I was already done with my materials for Yale, but I’m just wondering if I should carefully read through the packet that they sent in order to adjust my materials. Or do the materials just constitute some suggestions (that are really only suggestions) as to the sorts of things you might include in your application materials.—if they are more than that, then I’ll have to sit down with them more carefully than I would otherwise, given the stage I’m at. I’m sure it’s no biggie, but any advice would be appreciated. Many cheers—A.c.S