Do you look at all the answer choices if you know you are 100% certain on an answer choice before getting to E? There are many LR questions that I know are 100% right at choices A, B, or C (if I get to answer D I will go to E regardless, even if it goes against what this question is asking). I was thinking of just circling these questions and going back to them if I have time. Any thoughts would be much appreciated it.

Title is pretty self explanatory. Should you apply only to schools that you could see yourself working / staying there or should you apply to schools outside of your state / province . Some context I live in Ontario and plan on applying for Ontario based schools . That being said they are pretty competitive. Applying up north might give you more chances, but I would probably like to practice in Ontario and that could hinder my chances of networking as well as a feel for the laws of that area. Would love to hear feedback on this topic.

I took the June exam as my third stake, and got a score in the low 170s.

I feel ecstatic, but I’m looking for full scholarships at T14 schools.

I’m planning on retaking: would the 4th vs 5th take make a difference?

Ideally, I would like to take September and November as a back up.

But if a 5th take is too risky, maybe I should wait until November, so that I know that I can consistently hit high 170s~180 in PTs. My PT average before June had been mid-170s, and I’m not sure if a couple of months is enough to bring my average up to high 170s~180.

I’m just wondering if a 5th take would be considered as too many.

Today I went through the CC part about flaw questions on the LR. Everything was going great up until this part. I thought I was making progress, I was able to do so well on everything else and the Set for other LRs were not bad at all.

Flaw has given me some major trouble and tonight I just broke down. I missed so many questions back to back. I read the comment sections after each set and some of them would say "5 out of 5" or "4 out of 5" and it made me feel so bad about myself. I haven't missed this many in a row in a very long time. why now? what am I doing wrong? I'm taking notes the same way. I'm listening to every detail that JY and other sage students has to offer. I made sure to learn from my mistakes, but with every new question that I miss, I just feel like I won't ever get it.

Tonight I started really questioning myself and started doubting myself and that "maybe I can't take the LSAT".

Tough night.

I just want to know so that I can make use of the LSAT Analytics. I'm not in a huge rush to have the explanations.

I have taken the LSAT once before and, honestly, could never put in the time for studying. Because of work/finances, I could only sacrifice a half hour here and there with the power score books.

With the last LSAT, I got a 161. I am aiming for a 165+ but I only now got the time off to study (by demanding to lessen my overtime).

With maximal studying (think practice test a day plus some drills), can I achieve my goal? I do well with reading comp (4 missed at most), and I generally lag in the logic games due to running out of of time

Why are international papers undisclosed, it doesn't seem fair we don't get to see what we got wrong :(

Does anyone know/have experience taking the LSAT in US when on a tourist visa? My family is shifting to US in 2months, while I finish up University in Australia. In case my November 2018 LSAT does not go well (which I give in Australia) I had wanted to take the February 2019 LSAT, however, I would be in US by then on a tourist visa :/

Tears. That's how this all started and feels like that's how it's just going to keep continuing.

The thought of wanting to be an attorney never occurred to me as a child until I had to sit through the medical malpractice case after my dad passed away from a doctor's stupid case. I was 12 years old, bawling my eyes out and in order to stop making a fool out of myself, I decided to concentrate hard on our attorney's opening statement. I fell in love with the field after that. Ask me about any SCOTUS decision, and I"ll tell you the rules they used, the dissents, and the facts of the case.

Flash forward 9 years later, I'm in my room, bawling my eyes out at my LSAT score.

Kind of funny, isn't it? The irony of it all?

It's so freaking frustrating.

I have a UGPA of a 2.88 (upward trend to a 3.45 by the end of my last year) all because I had a severe case of iron deficiency anemia (that had left me bruised up all over at one point) that went undiagnosed and left my brain constantly feeling foggy/ wasn't able to concentrate. Once I had the ability to see a doctor (thanks, Obama) I was diagnosed and that's where you were able to see that upward trend in my grades.

My first lsat was a 149.

My second lsat was canceled because the testing center was loud.

My third lsat was a 148 (I'm fully convinced this was a bubbling error)

My fourth? a 152.

I've ran local and statewide campaigns, have an impressive resume that ranges from AmeriCorps to non-profit work. I work at a law firm now. Helped organized food drives for our homeless community. Have a clean background.

I freaking LOVE the law. As much as everyone hates it, I wish I was in law school. I envy everyone that is.

Why is this so difficult?

I just .. I don't know what I"m doing posting this, but I guess I'm just looking for advice. Words of wisdom. Anything.

Much love to the 7sage community. You all keep me sane, nonetheless.

Ink is so expensive. For fool proofing LG, how many copies do you print out? I heard about this method an earlier member posted about for proofing LG that saved a lot of paper, does anyone know what I am talking about?

Thanks

I know I'm in a tough spot. I decide to take my first lsat without much study while I was in undergrad and scored in the 140s. After that, I decided to work for a few years post-under grad and I improved decently. 160>164>164. My most recent retake in June 2018 was supposed to be my very last one--I was hoping to score in the range of 167-171 which is the average range of my practice tests. At this point, I've been studying for the LSAT on and off for 1.5 years. My goal is to reach 170 but I'm wondering whether I've actually hit my limitations with my test.

I know this type of situation is unconventional on 7sage since most people on here are usually scoring high consistently and only need a few takes to reach their goal. I feel incredibly defeated and wonder if I should just settle for a regional school rather than aiming for T-20s. I'm not applying until next cycle, so I can potentially retake but I'd love to hear honest advice regarding my situation. I've studied with almost every practice test there is so there's also the question of having fresh study material in the event that I do decide to retake a fifth time.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts you can offer!

So I took PT 38 on Monday after taking a break for a week and getting back into the groove... I know it's not a huge improvement but I'm trying to celebrate small victories to help myself stay positive.

I had an 8 point jump from my diagnostic! I still have a lot of work to do before I hit my target score and BR goal but celebrating small victories has really improved my attitude. If I'm honest, the day before I took the PT, I was feeling so stressed and began losing my confidence in my abilities. I cried for a good hour then I told myself that I need to get myself together and do what I need to do. I'm happy with myself to see the strategies I've adopted for my second try is paying off and I hope everyone sees improvements as they progress in their studies (3(/p)

Hey all,

I (think) my profile constitutes as a reverse-splitter for Berkeley and Cornell. I want to know (as realistically as possible) what my chances are (I would appreciate it if you do not simply say "not good", because I already know they are not good xD).

I am also curious as to what the profiles for those at/under the 25th percentiles for these schools are like. Is it mostly based on luck?

For convenience, here are the class profiles for Berkeley and Cornell (as published on their sites):

Berkeley Class of '20: LSAT(164/167/168), GPA(3.66/3.79/3.88).

Cornell Entering FL17: LSAT(163/167/168), GPA(3.68/3.77/3.87).

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

I am nearly complete with the CC and am looking to develop a successful post CC strategy. I have already viewed the post CC webinar and plan to follow the advice provided. Excluding the advice that is provided in the post CC webinar, does anyone have any personal post CC study strategies they would like to share? I know this is an open ended question that largely depends on my areas of weakness / target score. (165+)

What, if any, are some strategies you wish you would have known prior to beginning your post CC studies?

For example: How exactly did you go about fool-proofing LG (by section or game type?), did you keep an LSAT journal for troublesome topics...etc.

I am open to any advice in LR, LG, or RC.

I feel like I am heading towards burnout territory.. but I am in complete denial and I do not want to take a break. Is it possible to recover from burnout without taking one/two weeks off?

Abit of housekeeping: I am going into my fourth year of undergrad this fall and will be applying to Canadian Law Schools; mainly Ontario. My success in the first two years of undergrad (2.8-3.0 OLSAS GPA Calculator) were negatively influenced by marital issues in the home stemming from my father’s mental health (depression). I was also clinically diagnosed with ADHD in September 2017 and have been medicated since. This past year I was able to pull through do the best with the cards i’ve been delt to achieve an 85% avg or 3.85 GPA, which is anticipated to increase this coming year. This will give me 2 bad years and 2 better/good years of undergrad which i’m hoping some schools can look past due to the circumstances.

LSAT: I am currently registered for the July 2018 test and have been studying for the last two months on an average of 20 hours per week (Powerscore trilogy). I am also working 40 hours a week which makes it somewhat difficult to balance studying, family life, and maintaining friendships and the relationship I have with my girlfriend. I am starting to get overwhelmed due to my fully simulated and timed 4 section PT’s which produce results in the 150-153 range. BR usually brings me up to the low 160’s, however I have only done a handful of tests. I feel that I will not be ready for test day which I hope to score a165 (very ambitious for my current state). I am considering postponing until September but I also want to have adequate time to do my personal statements, gather LOR’s, and complete my application. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!:)

Did anyone take the June test at NCCU, School of Law? How was the desk, the proctor, and the noise level? How long did it take from arrival to test?

Thanks in advance.

So I originally sent a thank you directly to 7Sage, and Akiko encouraged me to post about it here in the hopes of helping/encouraging others.

I will try to keep this short, but I want to start by just saying a huge thank you again to the entire 7Sage team for all their work on this site, and especially to JY for all of his videos as well as the recent month-long RC review he held leading up to the exam. Those RC calls were strangely a lot of fun and I know they definitely helped me and others a lot. I would also like to thank people like @"Cant Get Right" and @Daniel.Sieradzki for their LR and RC sessions last year, and @Sami and @"Leah M B" for helping me out with mindset-related issues leading up to the test.

I started out with a somewhat inflated diagnostic score of 153 (I didn't use a bubbling sheet and had some questionable timekeeping practices). After that diagnostic, I stopped studying for about a year to finish up college. In 2017 I started studying again more seriously and after about 9 months with 7Sage, while working full-time, I scored a 170 on the June 2018 exam.

I feel like I made some definite mistakes in my prep, but also did a few things well, so if anyone is interested I could potentially offer some help. I am by no means an LSAT expert, but if possible I would love to help anyone I can to tackle this crazy test. Along those lines, please feel free to PM me or leave a comment if there is anything I may be able to answer or help out with.

Thanks again!

Proctors: Proctors were super nice, they even had clear bags and sharpened pencils for people. They knew exactly how to do their job and there was absolutely no talking amongst themselves or coming in/out of the room during the entire test.

Facilities: Classroom in engineering building

What kind of room: Large auditorium

Ho many in the room: 20-30

Desks: more than enough space for both test booklet and answer sheet

Left-handed accommodation: Doesn't apply

Noise levels: Absolutely quiet both in and outside the room

Parking: Likely not free

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Probably less than 30 mins 12 30 pm

Irregularities or mishap: None

Would you take test again: Yes absolutely, can't ask for anything better

Date of Exam: 2018 June

Say you were about to run out of time on a LG section and didn't get to questions 13-24, so you guessed D on all of them before time ran out. What is the best way to record this on 7Sage's Score Tracker?

Got a Fare Evasion ticket from the MTA in NYC. Not that long of a story, and not that great of an excuse. It's a civil infraction, and I am not disputing it so it's just a matter of paying the fine.

Is this something that has to be disclosed in C&F if the school's question has disclosure language similar to: "excluding minor traffic or parking violations..."? How much of an impact can this have on my application?

And does someone have suggested language for an addendum given my lame/lack of excuse?

Good morning 7Sage fam,

I am among the legion of sagers it seems that will be re-taking the test after June. I had been averaging a 162 and scored a 161 in June. After looking over the test, I for 3 LR wrong within the first 10 questions and they were EASY, gimme questions that I should have gotten. Perhaps it was nerves? I absolutely should have had a 163 for June.

I took my first PT after June this Saturday and I scored a 167. The highest I have ever scored in a PT is a 163. Is this a fluke? Or can it be considered a jump in ability and subsequent test score? Perhaps the only way to know for sure is to take another PT. I simply wanted to reach out to 7Sage fam to see if somebody had experienced something similar.

So I'm doing 3 PT's a week, and I do the whole process in a single day (test, BR, and review) which means I'm dedicated 3 whole days a week to the PT'S... But then that leaves by 4 days of nothing. What should I be doing in these days in between? I don't want to waste PT's by making them practice drills instead, but I also don't want to use the fake questions as drills. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions and what you guys do once you're done CC? thanks guys!!

I have a question relating to an experience I'm sure many of you have experienced. I started PT'ing in the late 30's and 40's and my score increasingly went up, starting from mid-160's to a high of 170. Then I decided to take PT 78 and my score dropped to a 163. I made the jump because I'm taking the exam in July and wanted to do fresher PTs.

For those of you whose scores dropped from PTs in the 40's to those in the 70's, what did you notice were the patterns that made the questions more difficult, and what strategies did you use to get your scores back up?

Hi, So I am preparing for the July 2018 LSAT

and am wondering when the June 2018 LSAT would be released by JY for practice.

Does anyone know?