For when you know you need a break but just...can't...let...go.

Your favorite LSAT mantras and mnemonics? (for long commutes to and from work) (Do not say "ViewSTAMP". I am so done with PowerScore)

Law and Order?

Movies. I'm on a list and some look better than others. Next on my list is My Cousin Vinny.

Any app recommendations for logic practice or word puzzles? (to boost your confidence in the morning, over breakfast...or replace compulsive checking of the news)

Songs? (I fought the Law - The Clash, The Law of the Land - The Temptations)

Hey 7sagers,

I'm wondering from what sample of experimental sections you guys select to simulate a real LSAT exam.

Do you choose them from earlier PT's (1~40's) or do you break them up from recent ones (e.g. Full PT 71+ PT 65 Section 3 as an experimental section)?

I was thinking the latter has the advantage of being exposed to a more realistic LSAT since all the sections will be from a similar time period. But I'm also concerned that breaking up a recent PT into experimental sections would be a loss of a full recent PT.

What do you guys think!? thank you, as always!

Hey guys, I know we only finished with the test a week ago, and even some are finishing up in Florida today (Congrats btw!). And I haven't even really given much thought to a re-take, but if I do it's because I would have scored in the high 160's or low 170's and I want to punch that up higher since I'm a splitter.

However for us high scorers that are looking to retake, we probably already know the material pretty well. The benefit we can obtain from doing the easier sections administered over the years is likely minimal. Through 7Sage I scored every test, even ones I didn't do so that I would have access to their difficulty rating for each section within every PT. I figured this could be a great tool for everyone whenever they decide to start studying again to have a list of not just the hardest questions, or hardest games/passages, but to have the most difficult sections. This way when we're just doing timed sections instead of full PT's we can target our studying on the more difficult material. I'm also slightly out of my mind and have likely lost a sense of purpose without the LSAT in my life, but therapy will come later.

Anyways the sections are ranked from 1-5 with obviously five being the most difficult and one being the easiest. For the sake of this list I only will put up those sections that are ranked at either 4 or 5 difficulty. From my own research it seems that 7Sage largely ranks these sections by how hard or easy the questions are, so even though June's LSAT RC passages were considerably dense and difficult, because the questions themselves were very straight-forward and easy the section itself was only given a two-star ranking.

Reading Comprehension:

5 Star- PT 50 Yep, only one RC was ever given a five start difficulty ranking for some reason and that was PT 50. It makes sense since nearly half the questions in the section are given a four or five star difficulty rating!

4 Star- PT 19, PT 38, PT 43, PT 45, PT 51, PT 53, PT 54, PT 55, PT 65, PT 67, PT 74 (was -9 on this one during the summer, never went below -6 any other time), PT C2, PT 79. I'm sure PT 82 will be joining these ranks soon as well.

Logical Games:

5 Star- PT A, PT B, PT C, PT 18, PT 27, PT 31, PT 34, PT 36, PT 62

4 Star- PT 9, PT 13, PT 23, PT 30, PT 32, PT 35, PT 37, PT June 2007 (Free LSAT offered through LSAC), PT 57, PT 61, PT 66, PT 68

Logical Reasoning:

5 Star- PT 14 s4, PT 24 s2, PT 28 s1, PT 45 s1, PT 70 s4

4 Star- PT Feb 97 s1&3, PT 14 s2, PT 17 s2, PT 21 s3, PT 22 s2&4, PT 23 s3, PT 25 s2, PT 36 s1, PT 39 s2, PT 40 s3, PT 43 s3, PT 44 s4, PT 47 s3, PT 48 s4, PT 49 s2, PT 51 s3, PT 56 s2, PT 58 s1, PT 59 s2, PT 63 s3, PT 71 s3, PT 76 s2

Note: I left out the first eleven PT's as they're so old and LR so different I didn't think they'd be too useful.

Takeaways: Genuinely shocked at the results in the sense that I've always felt like the newer tests were much more difficult than the older one. I felt that the RC in the 70's was way more difficult than usual, but it looks like even though the passages tend to likely be more dense, the questions themselves aren't that hard. If you really want to challenge yourself in RC it looks like using PT's in the 50's are the way to go, especially since they still have comparative reading passages.

In regards to Logic Games, though we have seen some weirder and more difficult games the past few years, they have balanced that with easier games to begin with in those sections. I can attest that some of the earlier PT's especially PT A, B, and C which are included in SuperPrep are difficult the entire way, if you really want to test your LG than this is the way to go.

The difficulty in Logical Reasoning seems to be pretty consistent over the years though this list helped me realize using some of those PT's in the 20's may end up being useful.

Overall it makes sense why the PT's over the last few years have relatively tighter curves than those from way back as the test's difficulty actually seem to be easier on balance. I hope everyone who unfortunately has to re-take or is taking for the first time can find this list useful!

Has anyone had this happen? It says that I have 4 pending charges from 7sage for some reason (usually takes a day to clear anything but I still get the product) but my 7sage account still says I'm on the "free trial" mode and I don't have access to the materials....

Hi! I need advice on drilling materials for LG and LR. I have heard good things about Cambridge and lsat trainer. I also don't want to blow too much money.

I took September lsat with a cancellation mindset. I've studied 2 months and realized it wasn't enough few weeks before the test. Since I've already paid for the test, I decided to take it and see what my soft sports on the real deal are. I am so happy I did. The experience made me realize that I need to be stricter on timing myself.

I can do 93-96q correctly without a stopwatch, but during the real deal I got very nervous and the need to perfectly answer every question killed my pace.

Esp games :(

Any advice for December study? And drilling materials?

I am new to 7Sage and am just getting started with this program and am loving it so far. However, I am concerned with the best approach to take on practice tests. I've already taken tests 64, 72-73, and 75-76 as full length proctored exams while going through Kaplan's syllabus. I've also been taking their lessons for quite a while and have fairly thoroughly covered their plan which uses tests 45-61. I was planning on using all other tests as full length proctored exams as I push towards the December 2nd LSAT.

Looking over the plan here at 7Sage- I am worried about using all of the earlier tests 1-35 to go through all of the material.

That would only leave me 36-44 and 61-81 minus the 5 sections I have already taken.

Is 24 more full length proctored exams enough?

It's been awhile since I have done one of these, mostly because I took the REAL FREAKING LSAT last Saturday. Today I've decided to go with a theme I've seen pop up a bit on these forums recently.

Every single person on this planet is unique. We have all been forged in the crucible of life by different experiences, situations, opportunities and struggles. One person might face strife one day and endearment the next; while another faces love and then disappointment. What we cannot do is lose perspective of life and ourselves. Each person has a unique life story that is so personalized, so individualized, that it creates who they are. To compare ones life to another is futile because they are so disproportionately different from each other. What is hard for one person may come naturally to another, not because that person is inherently better, but simply because their life circumstances were better suited for that particular challenge. It's not fair to belittle the person who has a harder time, because I promise you they are better equipped to handle something that you are not. It's also not fair for the person who struggled to belittle themselves; just because it came easy to someone else does not mean you are incapable of achieving the same results.

Once we are able to stop comparing ourselves to others then things become more clear. Your personal challenges become evident. It is then up to you to focus on what you need to do to achieve your goals. I believe you will find the challenge much more manageable once you stop trying to be like everyone else. You can see your own weaknesses, you can personalize a path to your goal, and you can kill self-doubt because you are no longer worried you are "behind" or "unskilled" or "incapable". Then this is where people can begin to rely on each other. Once we know ourselves and our own strengths and weaknesses we can begin to offer help to others, and to take advice. We need to be able to admit that we are not amazing in every aspect of our lives and be willing to listen to others, while simultaneously offering our own wisdom and advice to those that need it.

John is 22 years old, fresh out of undergrad, a single Dad who works full time and is great at Logic Games.

Susan is a 42 year old mother of 3 who was once an accountant but wants to switch to the legal field and is a master at Reading Comp.

Both of these two want a 180....

Why wouldn't they help each other? These two people stand to gain everything by working together and stand to lose nothing. Stop getting lost in the competitive game of trying to be better than others and start helping each other.

Each and every one of you who took the time to read this is an amazing individual. You have the potential to be whatever, and whomever you want to be. It might not come easy, it might be a challenge, but you can still accomplish it. Look into other peoples lives only to help them and lift them up, never look down on them. The LSAT is one challenge we all have in common and we all struggle in our own way. Let's use this as a way to bond and to grow as individuals and not as a way to prove we are "better" than someone else.

I give you this seal....to do whatever you want to do.

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Has anyone ever gone -0 on the entire LSAT on a test day? Just curious... Thanks!

Probably because it's my strongest section/has the least amount of reading. I enjoy doing them. LR on the other hand is another story

Hey guys

I've been grinding through the curriculum for the past two months and am on track to finish by the end of September. I was wondering if someone has in their possession a study plan for me to use that they personally STRICTLY abided by in order to maximize their learning. I will be sitting for the December LSAT and I would like to take as many practice tests as I can and drill as much as I can. I have all of the tests on record and the cambridge packets (for drilling my weak spots) in my possession. I just want to study as efficiently as possible.

Thanks guys!

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So I haven't gotten my score, but I'm quite confident that I didn't do as well as I had hoped. I've registered for the Dec test already and I guess I'm currently taking the week off (3 days left) before I get back into it.

I had a solid routine for 4 months. Wake up at 5:45am and study for an hour on the train to work. Once at work around 7:30 I would study until around 9:00am, then I would work until around 12:30 and take an hour lunch on which I would study for about an hour. I then would finish my day at work and study for an hour on my way home. That means I was putting about 4.5 hours of studying into the LSAT Monday - Friday. Saturday mornings of course were PT's which took me about 3.5 hours or so. So on average I studied about 26 hours a week. That's 104 hours a month, or 416 hours of studying total for those 4 months.

Then on Saturday that all stopped and I don't know what to do with myself....like seriously there is a huge void in my life now...I almost want to keep studying. I am a man who likes his routines and now....what do I even do...

If I have to retake in Dec I'll pick right back up where I've left off...but if not...now what! O_O

(btw this test became an obsession if you can't tell)

Curious on what people think.

My opinion is no since the average age is somewhere like 24-25 (or so I read somewhere) - however for those going at 26 you presumably won't graduate until 29-30 - could those "big law" jobs potentially go to younger candidates with the same qualifications?

Okay I need an honest opinion from you all. My freshman year, literally my first weekend, I received a citation for drinking on campus, police were not involved, it was only campus RAs. Super dumb, I kick myself for it all the time.

I ended up working in the Dean of Students office during my undergraduate studies. So I asked the Dean if I should disclose that incident when applying to law school and he advised me not to if it's not listed on my official transcript. I ordered an official, sealed transcript and $15 later I realized that nowhere on my transcript does it mark any disciplinary action and lists me to be in good standing after every single semester.

I got CAS about a week before taking the Sept. LSAT and I requested my undergrad school transcript through it. It still says my transcript is pending. I haven't started apps on LSAC yet...could this be why?

I'm just curious if these emails from different law schools mean they are actually interested in you, or are they just trying to pad their wallets and stats. My GPA is decent and I hope I did well on the September lsat, but the only other thing they know about me is I am old as hell. The NYU email made me decide to post this, but for all I know everyone in the lsac system received the same one. Any insight or experiences would be appreciated.

Does anyone have any insight as to whether it is easier to get into law school part time? I have not been able to find any data.

Hey Everyone,

Apologizes if this has already been discussed somewhere but I had a quick question regarding sending transcripts into LSAC. I was wondering when I should send my transcripts to LSAC. If I send them now, will they not factor in the fall semester grades? Is it recommended that I wait until I have those grades in?

Also, on a related note, I was thinking about retaking a class in the winter in order to get a better grade. Just as some background, my high school offered duel enrollment classes and little did I know then that they would count towards my GPA in college. Long story short, I got a B+ in some mandatory health class and it's bringing my GPA down from a 4.0 to a 3.92. Do you think it's worth trying to retake over the winter term?

Thanks a ton!

I'm in South Florida and the Sept. 16 test was postponed due to the hurricane. I got an email today saying I could stand-by at an open center (over an hour away) this Saturday the 23rd or I can take it on Oct. 14th at my original center (10 mins away) where I'll definitely have a spot.

Which should I take???

My main concern regards applying asap. To what extent is it advantageous to complete/submit an application on Oct. 12ish vs early Nov. (when I think the Oct. 14th score will come out). I'm afraid my next score won't be high enough, so I want that advantage of applying early. I already have one LSAT score, so I'll at least be starting applications very soon, but can't complete them until I get that second score.

My other concern is the score. My June LSAT was good (162) but not good enough. Over the past 2 months, I've been getting 166-169 on the prep tests from 2011-14. But on the most recent prep tests, since 2015, I'm back down 163-164 average. Its weird because these are actually the ones I had taken most recently prior to the June test. I also noticed this trend when I was studying for the June test. I do feel that the more recent tests are more difficult; on these most recent tests I get way more wrong in LR than usual and for some reason I can't finish the whole RC section which is odd because I usually can.

Anybody else have this experience?

My goal is 164 minimum.

Hey all, I wanted to do this as a favor for people who have yet to take a real LSAT. Saturday was my 2nd real LSAT. I sat for the September 2016 and September 2017 tests. Obviously one of them is still EXTREMELY fresh in my mind while I've had a year to come to terms with the other. If you have questions on what I did for a the year in-between, how the test feels compared to practice, what the real test day entails, what the real test feels like, or anything else feel free to ask me!!!

I WILL NOT ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 2017 TEST*

Hey all,

I had a question about what someone applying straight out of undergrad should include in their resume. I've worn a lot of hats over my undergraduate career. I was originally Pre-Med, so I worked in two biomedical research labs during my freshman year. After realizing medicine was not for me, I spent a summer interning for an appellate court, and then my sophomore year working at a law school as an assistant event planner. Then my junior year I actually took 9 months off school to work on the presidential campaign.

My campaign work is definitely my biggest job, and the one I had the most "prestige" and "authority" in. It was also the largest commitment - while I worked only 15-25hrs/wk in previous jobs, I was working 80-100hr/wk on the campaign. Consequently, I want to devote more space in my resume to this campaign work.

That being said, what should an undergraduate include in their resume? I know the conventional wisdom is keep your resume to ONE page. Thus, space is a precious commodity. Should you include every job you held in undergraduate, or should you just pick the most important ones/relevant ones? I'm thinking of just removing the research labs from the resume, and only including work on the court onward.

Thanks all,

Paul

Hi 7sagers! So I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I'm planning on attending law school in Fall 2020 when I'm 26, but I'm studying for the LSAT now and I've taken the most recent June test. I was planning on retaking the test for February 2018 and I've been using 7Sage for the past two months (which is AWESOME btw). I'm also aggressively paying off my student loans right now so I work two jobs. These loans are scheduled to be paid off in August 2018 as of now. I owe less than $18,000 and I started off at $25,311, so it's been working out pretty well.

My question is do you think it would be best if I paused my studying for the LSAT and take the November 2018 test instead so I can focus on paying down these loans faster by taking on a third job. With a third stream of income making at least an extra $100 a week, I think I can make it so I pay off my loans by May 2018. From there, I would study for the LSAT for six more months and take the test in November.

My reasoning behind this is working two jobs and trying to put my all in studying for this test is really tough. My second job is in catering so I often work 12-14 hours on Saturday and by Sunday, I don't want to move let alone study for several hours. Both of my current goals require time and by splitting this time between both of them, I don't feel as if I am optimizing my score as much as I know I can if I have the time to study. Another benefit of working in catering is that I can switch to on call hours where I basically am not scheduled to work unless the company really needs me so I can do that a couple of months before the test. This would allow me to dedicate my Saturdays to the LSAT once I paid off my student loans. Also since I won't be applying to law school until Fall 2019, taking the test in November 2018 wouldn't be too close to the application deadlines.

So what are your thoughts? Do you think this is a solid plan or do you feel like there is any pitfalls that I haven't taken into consideration? Thanks so much for your help!!

fyi: Before 7sage, I got a 153 on the LSAT. However, I have gone through the Logical Reasoning section of CC and my understanding has gotten so much better. I am aiming for a 160, but with a lot of hard work, this course, and blind review, I can surpass that. Thanks again!

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Hi all,

At the risk of embarrassing myself, I wanted to share something I learned. A few nights ago my husband and I had date night at Grapefest - Grapefest is an annual carnival in nearby Grapevine, TX where you can eat deep fried foods and drink wine for hours - I know, heaven right? Anyway, I came home still feeling buzzed from said wine drinking and decided to finish up the remaining 30 minutes of studying I promised to do for the day. I was studying 'Flaw' questions, the hardest of the hard for me, and this problem set happened to be the most difficult of the bunch. In my inebriated state, I started the questions assured I'd be completely off and get them all wrong but a strange thing happened: I was clear, focused and thoroughly understood each question and got all five correct in under 7 minutes.

As I sat there dumbfounded, checking each question (remember Flaw questions are my achilles heel) I realized what the difference was that night compared to my other study nights: I was drunk. And with drunkeness comes zero inhibition. I forgot all the little voices in my head that play negative thoughts when I'm studying :'this is too hard', 'you don't know the right answer', 'you suck at this', and I just studied with zero self-doubt and 100% confidence.

The lesson learned? - Drink a bottle of tequila before studying - just kidding. But find a way to release the self-doubt in your head during this process, it could just be that one thing keeping you from a 180.

*Disclaimer: I do not promote studying while intoxicated. This experience was only relayed to illustrate a point :-P

UPDATE: The admissions webinar is up here: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/webinar/

The résumé webinar will be there soon.

7Sagers,

To help you gear up for the 2017 application season, we’re doing back-to-back admissions webinars.

→On Tuesday, September 26, at 9 p.m. ET, I’ll give you an overview of the application process, and I’ll include some brand new, never-before-seen material on personal statement mistakes. After the presentation, 7Sage Editors Maura Roosevelt, Clare Sestanovich and I will take your questions.

:cookie: At the end of the admissions overview webinar, we’ll randomly select one attendee for a free personal statement critique.

→ The next day, on Wednesday, September 27, at 9 p.m. ET, our very own Micah Bateman will host a webinar on that essential but often overlooked component of your application, the résumé. Micah will use actual 7Sage résumés to give you an idea of what works, what doesn’t, and how you can convey your experience most effectively.

:cookie: At the end of the résumé webinar, we’ll randomly select one attendee for a free résumé critique.

:warning: In order to join these webinars, you will have to register in advance.

→ Please register for the admissions overview webinar (Sep 26, 2017 9:00 PM EDT) here: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/2717887576239374337

→ Please register for the résumé webinar (Sep 27, 2017 9:00 PM EDT) here: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/4239267521942175745

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

We hope to see you there!