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Last comment wednesday, feb 21 2018

Mock LSAT Preparation

I will be taking a mock LSAT though my university this coming Saturday (2/24). I have taken one PT before but being in a simulated test room for the first time may make it feel different. Do any of you have suggestions/recommendations for preparing for it whether it's bringing certain things or a good luck breakfast?

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Last comment wednesday, feb 21 2018

Weekly PT's after the CC

Hi Everyone,

I'm working my way through the PT, and wanted to get some input on a question regarding doing 2 weekly PT's, as my schedule suggests.

I currently work full time, so the only realistic timeline I have for doing PT's is the weekend, during the middle of the week I'm too mentally drained to do a full PT.

Originally I thought I would just do a PT on Saturday, then a PT on Sunday - and BR both of them during the week. The value to that being, while there might not be much improvement from PT to PT on any given weekend at least I'll have more data on where I'm weakest and have enough time to work though a BR. The downside being I'm not sure how much time this will leave for additional drills on areas I'm weak in.

The other thought I had was to do one PT over a weekend, BR it the rest of the weekend/early in the week and then drill areas I'm weak on until the next weekend and repeat.

Has anyone been in a similar situation, would love to hear some feedback on which strategy would most likely be more effective.

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It's been a long year of endless studying for the lsat for me, as for all of us here at 7Sage. I have taken the test an amount of times, that most of you would consider to be too many times. I'm not influenced by how many times people can or don't take the test, if anything in my [personal opinion]... It shows schools that you're persistent. However, like I said that's just me. Given today's economic shifts, employment of this generation, and academic trends; it's hard to ignore the signs that we often neglect to recognize.

If anyone else is into the whole socioeconomic trends, not by just a degree in B.S., but by simply observing the world's trends... then I'm sure you can see what I'm talking about. Recently Glassdoor released a list of the 50 most in demand jobs, based on a few different factors. All of those 50 were in these catagories: Analysists, Engineering, and Marketing. Upon reading about these occupations, I realized that all of them paid at least 75,000 as their average base. They range up past the 100k as well. What I found strange was the fact the businesses wanted people with skills/past experiences, or two years of internships. I have none of that. Not to mention, like many of us... math & science are totally not our areas of expertise. I haven't done math or science since high school, let alone major or work in the field with these two, very complex fields of occupation.

Economically, in the world we have noticed that education used to be the way out in order to achieve success later on in ones life. Now, education is the way in... to debt. I'm sure a lot of us can acknowledge how expensive a college education is, especially if we are not given the opportunity to have it readily available, financially. The United States largest debt, is now student debt. We have to work our whole lives to repay what we did in school to get us the jobs (most are not even satisfied with). We don't get to even think about retirement due to this overwhelming growth in loans. It's sad. These jobs listed above seem to want those whom have a good understanding of those fields, not a M.A. or J.D, etc. It makes sense if students decide to go into a high paying job after school, without having to be buried in debt. So, for many of us noticing that unless we truly want to be apart of the law, versus just going to Law school for a high paying/ powered job... the script is now flipped. Unfortunately. I know too many people who initially went to Law school for a better financially stable future, and are now disappointed that it didn't play out in the way they had thought it would.

Thus, I do think for many who either just love school or learning, or those who really know that law school is all they have ever wanted... stay with it!!

As for me, I intend on going to Law school. However, I was recently admitted to a Graduate program with a fully paid tuition. For me, thats two extra years of a dept free education. I'd be remiss if I didn't take it, for it is both economically sound & I believe will give me more time to build a strong resume, allowing me to go for my J.D with a master's degree behind me as well. Also, I hope to get the Teachers Assistanship as well, for it will show my abilities to teach, and have a solid foundation of interpersonal communication. I do know this will help for applications when it comes time for law school, seeing those things on my resume.

I will continue with 7sage, because they have been here for me since day one. I'll probably be on here for another two years, and many will find me annoying after awhile.

I just figure that with all the discussions of Law School Apps, I'd post this in case anyone is in a similar predicament/ freaking out about a future in continuing education.

Being realistic about the world has shown me that my plans for the new few years, is not as realistic for the rest of my life.

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Last comment wednesday, feb 21 2018

Thank you 7sage!!

So my account is about to expire and I'm all done with all my applications/LSAT prep (woohoo!)-- just wanted to thank JY and the 7sage community for creating such a great product. The videos are all so, so helpful and you've all been able to make this process very affordable (the fee waivers during the application cycle alone have already compensated for the cost of my course). I've been telling everyone considering taking the LSAT to use 7sage because it truly made such a difference. I'm from California, so I went into the law school application process thinking I had a decent chance of getting into Berkeley--- now I have (!!!) and it's so exciting to have gotten into one of my top choices and still have other potential options coming down the pipe.

I took the LSAT in September and December, and using the advice of other sagers and the new RC videos I was able to go from -6 to -0 in RC the second time around, which was a huge deal for me and my score actually went up by 10 points (167 --> 177). I don't think I did anything that crazy in terms of studying, but I'm happy to help other sagers however I can (though I'm probably not going to be checking the site much after the next week or so because I'm excited to have a life outside of law school apps again!). My biggest piece of advice is this: be protective with your time and with your psyche. I think it's easy to fall into the trap of trolling the discussion board instead of working on core curriculum ("I'm on the site, I'm studying.... I'll just take a little break..."). Equally easy is working yourself into a frenzy because other people are stressed out. This community is really supportive, but sometimes hearing people complain about not being able to get from a 171 to a 175+ is demoralizing when you're still scoring in the low 160s. Trust in yourself and trust the process! Okay thanks again 7sage, here's to hoping for a great 2018 admissions cycle! Peace!

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Last comment tuesday, feb 20 2018

Columbia Waitlist

What the heck. Why is (nearly) everyone at Columbia getting wait listed, even when they have 170+ LSAT scores and a 3.6+ GPA's? I get YP, and an increased applicant pool etc etc...but this seems excessive.

Thoughts?

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Last comment monday, feb 19 2018

Jobs After law school

Disclaimer: It doesn't matter if you are applying to a top law school or not and everyone opinion matter.

I had some free time yesterday so i had a conversation with a recent graduate from the school i am interested in going to for my law studies (UMiami) and she expressed to me that she and a few of her friends were having a hard time finding jobs or landing interviews (sports and entertainment law, corporate law etc) and they are all in the top 10% of their class.After the conversation i went onto BLS.gov to see what the job market for lawyers looked like and its a little discouraging to see that its only going to grow about 8% in the next few years. So i wanted to get everyone opinion on the whole "after law school" topic. maybe you all can even shed some light on this topic as i am a career changer and i would love to learn more about everyone plans as far as what you're planing on studying in law school and the job market on that particular filed.

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So i think i have a pretty good understanding of the difference between an analogy and an example. But i ran across a question in LR that hinged on the difference [PT53.S3.Q24] and although i chose the correct answer i had to think for an extra few seconds about it. I wanted to ask if anyone could draw a binary cut between them. So i dont find myself second guessing again.

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Last comment monday, feb 19 2018

Accommodations

Hey guys, This is my first message but I thought it would be best to get it out there in the forum. I recently got approved for testing accommodations for the June LSAT which entails 50% additional test time on all multiple choice sections and a 15 minute break after sections 1,2,4,5 and a 30 minute break after section 3. I was wondering your guys opinions on PT's and how I should be doing them with these accommodations. I assume I should take the PT's under these conditions but also am considering "normal" or "a little more time than normal" to give myself plenty of time at the end of each section just in case. Please let me know how you feel is the best way for me to prepare under these conditions. Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to hearing from you guys.

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Okay, here’s the thing: I scored 162 (-18) on the June 2007 LSAT two weeks ago (a decent score for cold diag, isn’t it?), and I wasn’t even trying that hard. I got a -8 on RC, -7 on LR, and -3 on LG within the imposed time limit. I have never taken a LSAT and knew absolutely nothing about it before.

In fact, after taking the official cold diag test, I figured that LSAT is not as hard as everyone has been telling me. I came to believe that I can aim at a 175 in June and crack Harvard with my 3.63 UGPA and my fabulous PS (Yes, I have a compelling story to tell, and literally ALL the sample PS that I read were not as good as mine).

So after watching a few tutorials on 7sage, I aimed straight at the “most difficult LG/RC/LR sections ever” rated by students last week. Well, I was devastated, and I realized that I have definitely overestimated my intelligence and underestimated the difficulty of the test. The worst record was that I got -12 on RC, -8 on one LR section alone, and it took me over 30 minutes to figure out the dinosaur game. I always find standardized tests easy (I am not a native speaker of English but I got 163 on GRE verbal without studying AT ALL), but not this time.

I have not taken many PTs by now because I went straight from the cold diag to the most difficult sections in LSAT history, and I have no idea about the average difficulty of the tests in recent years. Passages such as Eileen Gray is daunting, but I know it is considered to be one of the most difficult RC passages that ever to appear.

So, may I ask if anyone who scored around 160 on the cold diag test ever felt the same as I did? Is the cold diag test really easier than most of the PTs?

I guess I would have to know this before making proper adjustments to my study plan. Thank you for your comments in advance.

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Apologies if this is not the right category or if this feature is already available and I'm just not seeing it.

It would be great if there was a way to save or bookmark specific comments within a discussion thread. I know we can follow an entire discussion or quote specific comments/users, but there are some amazing nuggets of advice from members that I would like to save for quick reference without having to dig through threads, etc.

So far I've just been noting advice down and saving comments in a word document, and this is working fine for me, but I thought it would be more convenient to just be able to do that on here directly.

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Hello- I would really appreciate some advice!

Some background info:-

  • I'm a junior taking a course overload (GPA 3.88 that I plan to push up to 3.9), heavily involved in extracurriculars and athletics, and seriously considering taking an internship or two this spring, and one in summer semester (since I haven't done a single one yet, and I know law schools really value work experience.)
  • I just had a go at my first ever cold diagnostic test and scored a 157. I'm disappointed and stressed by it but optimistic.
  • I've decided to take the June LSAT (on the 23rd where I am), giving me 4 months excluding June to study.
  • I'm open to repeating it in September if need be, but I would prefer not to have to of course, especially since I plan to apply to schools as early as possible.
  • I'm aiming for a score of 172+, so a 15 point increase. I know it's a long shot, but I need it for where I plan to go, and especially to offset my lack of work experience (that I don't think I can realistically remedy much by admission time in early Fall.)
  • My questions:-

  • Given the severe time constraints and all my other commitments, what would a realistic study schedule look like? I would feel best putting in 5-6 hours a day, but I really doubt that's a realistic expectation. I really don't want to slack on my GPA etc. or lose so much sleep that I burn out, but at the same time, this is the only chance I get to... get into the law school that I want. Should I start with 4 hours a day for the first month and see how well I do? Is that unrealistic as well? How far do I have to stretch myself to comfortably get into the 170s?
  • Any input on what plan to go with? I think the ultimate+ would be a waste if I can't cover the material. I think I will start with the premium then upgrade as I go. Will that harm my scheduling? I've read that you only really need to do as many practice questions as you happen to need in any section, and to save the rest for drilling later. Is that a good approach?
  • I'd really, really appreciate any help! Thanks!

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    Hi everyone,

    So this Monday will be my first time taking a PT at 12:30, and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions about what I should eat so that I don't get hungry. I'm imagining it will have to something heavy. Thanks in advance.

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    So basically, I'm registered to take the June 2018 LSAT and I've been studying for a little over a year now. I'm just now realizing that if I can just go -0 to -3 in LG, It will bring my PT trends to my goal score of 170+ I have been taking 1-3 practice tests a week until I realized this a few days ago.

    Since today is Feb 15th, I was thinking, how does It sound if starting today, I only drill logic games until March 11th (3 months away from the June test) then continue with my weekly PTs, targeting problem areas and LR and RC stuff, everything. Or should I be honing in on all three sections –– instead of just LG –– during this PT hiatus?

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    Hello 7sage club,

    Just had a quick question about the blind review method. I'm in post-7sage curriculum and just started doing my PT's. I find myself exhausted by the time I get to the end. How much time is it ok to take to do the blind review? For example, I was thinking of taking an hour break after I got done with all my sections and then going back and reviewing everything or should I just push through it and immediately review after I'm done with the PT?

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm a longtime lurker and first time poster on 7sage. I noticed that a lot of people tend to only use the free explanation videos that 7sage offers for logic games, or the starter pack, but they are always unsure if the higher packages are worth it. I just wanted to make this thread to give my experience as well as my thank you to 7sage and the community.

    In short, I think the higher packages are 100% worth it and for me, the reason was JY and his explanations for every question. Anyone who has watched enough of his explanation videos will see the confidence he has in eliminating wrong answers and that confidence, I found, was contagious.

    I met every question with the confidence (and sass) of JY and found that the test is a lot less intimidating that way. It wasn't just that everyone answer was wrong, it was that it was so wrong there's no way you could pick it. Throughout my test, I had my own little JY in my head helping me, with a constant "there you go" whenever I found the right answer.

    So I wanted to thank JY and the community for helping me to get into law school and for everyone who lurks the forums and wonders if the course is worth it, trust me it is.

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    @Alex for everything he has done for this community, and for me. When I first started on 7Sage around Nov of 2016 I was a clueless, lost, and hopeless individual. I had no idea what I was doing, what blind review was, and how to study efficiently. I started to get really active on the 7Sage forums, and @Alex was always able to shed valuable perspective on my situations. He has the ability to make sure we hear every side of an argument, and to make sure we understand the larger implications of everything we are doing. Not to mention his ability to always link relevant and helpful webinars, lessons, or websites to help solve your problem. Because of @Alex, and this community, I was equipped with the best resource to study for the LSAT and eventually beat the test.

    I just want to give a shout out to @Alex to say thank you for all that you do. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the 7Sage community who appreciates your continued efforts in helping us all to succeed! Stay awesome!

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    Hello,

    So I took the February 2018 LSAT but I am anticipating to retake it this June.

    I think I did well (probably around 168-173), but I think I can do better next time.

    That being said, I think I currently only have 5 full PT left. Usually my study consist of mostly doing full PT and BRing.

    I haven't done PT 1-35, although obviously I have done many of the QS from the curriculum and the LG drill.

    My last 5 PT averages are 171.

    Any tips as to how I can improve my score on my June LSAT?

    Thanks!

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