Obviously no one only uses one resource for information about law school. 7Sage is a great resource and there are many others. I just want to warn 7Sagers of a potential issue with another LSAT/Law school website!

According to Reddit, TLS is undergoing a bit of drama and change. I don't really care about the drama, or know what is going on, but want to make sure people don't fall pray to misinformation. From what I've read there is a lot of bad information being passed around right now, so be careful!

It's a good reminder to always be careful what you read on the internet! Fact check, triple check, find multiple sources! This is good advice for anything!

Edit: more info I found,

https://www.reddit.com/r/LawSchool/comments/7uax5l/what_is_going_on_with_tlslawschoollife/

this may be a stupid question , but I have been fool proofing games for about a month and i am up to pt 20, but i was wondering do i need to go back and do old games that i have done from the previous weeks? The way i have been doing the games are, First i start out doing the game with a stop watch record my time, then i would watch the video then do that game the next day, and if i get all the answers right after doing it under-timed condition i would move on to the next game. I do notice that i am improving and my speed is getting better but i dont want to skip a step.

I took the test this morning in Irvine, California. An incident occurred that I suspect many test takers will file formal complaints regarding. I'm wondering if anyone has an idea what might happen with the test or the scores. Details are as follows:

A test taker showed up at roughly 8:40am, at this time the proctor had already started reading the instructions but the test had not begun. This test taker also brought a large handbag and a cell phone. The proctor told the test taker to place her bag at the front of the room, to which the test taker asked if she could keep it under her desk instead, the proctor correctly responded no. By this point, no mention was made of her visible cell phone, so I spoke up and told the test taker to turn off her cell phone immediately. The test taker turned to the proctor and asked if she could use her cell phone to keep time, the proctor correctly responded no. All of this to say, that there is no possible way the test taker read any of the rules before arriving, or she read them and willfully chose to disregard them. Which also means her signature on the test ticket wasn't a truthful agreement by any stretch. Despite all of this the proctor still registered the test taker and showed her to her seat.

The story doesn't end there

Halfway through section 1, the test taker broke into a violent coughing fit. These coughing fits proceeded intermittently every couple of minutes, and continued until the start of the second section. During the second section the proctor dismissed the test taker to the relief of the rest of us in the room.

During the break and after the test, several test takers communicated their intent to report the disturbance to LSAC, as the coughing fit was extremely distracting, also the proctor obviously violated a number of rules by still admitting the test taker. I'm wondering what has LSAC typically done during situations like this? Will they cancel scores by request without penalty? Will they call a "mistrial" and require a retest for everyone? Can I still keep my score if I want to?

I'm concerned because despite the disturbance I think I did okay, and I would like to keep my score and be done with testing.

If anyone has similar experience or knows what typically happens in cases like this, sharing your insights would be much appreciated.

So I don't kill trees / pay for copier toner CEO's grandchildren's education.

As I force myself to take a week off studying (took Feb LSAT and went into it knowing I would retest), I am spending this week doing some administrative things to prep for the next study build. I plan to work on fool proofing LG hard and have ~110 LG games I've already seen that I will use to grind through, I am planning on modifying the logistics of the method for my own uses. As printer toner for my copier costs a mint, I am only printing out a single copy of each LG. I have placed each LG in a document protector and filled a 2 inch notebook with the games. Instead of killing trees / toner burning x10 copies each, I'm just using colored dividers to create subsections in the notebook according to where each LG game is in my process. Today's game, tomorrow's game, take in x days, un-mastered/mastered. It will be slightly different in that I won't mark up the actual game to do my practice, but by this point, I know how to use the page during an actual PT or test. So I only move the one page LG (in its own cozy document protector) to the appropriate place in the folder and practice the game as scheduled. I'm actually still performing the LG fool proofing steps without paying for Lord Business' next Caribbean vacation.

YMMV, just sharing a technique.

Hey,

My university and pre-law advisor is asking me to put together a list of the resources I used to do well on the exam and for the process of applying. The list is geared toward underserved communities. I know that other people probably used different programs (Blueprint, TestMaster, 7sage).

I was wondering if you guys know of any 'secret' resources that you've used. For example, I know there is an NYC nonprofit that offers consultation to low-income applicants for free. Anything would help.

Thanks.

JK

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to quickly introduce myself. I just recently purchased the 7sage course after taking a 3 month LSAT prep course through another company and sitting for the Feb 18 LSAT. My practice test scores were all coming out between low to high 160's, but I definitely do not feel I performed that way on test day.

I tried doing my PT's under accurate test day conditions, but oh boy does the real thing still feel different. I definitely succumbed to test day anxiety and found myself rushed on certain sections and struggling on question types I'm normally pretty confident in.

Anyway, my question is what is the consensus on score cancellations? I see this course recommends longer study times before sitting for your first LSAT, and now that the two-year limit has been removed and LSAT sends your average score on all LSAT's as well as individual scores to schools - is it worth considering a cancellation if you feel you under performed where you should be?

Thanks, and looking forward to chatting with everyone!

I've been wanting to go to ASU law school for a while now...and it's feeling like a pipe dream. I know it's achievable and it's not like it's Harvard or Yale but I'm having a difficult time with my LSAT and GPA.

I have taken the LSAT twice by now, one was in 2017 February and February of this year. I'm a bit sad because I studied hard to aim for 160+ (a good acceptance rate for the law school of my dreams with my GPA), and I know for a sure that I did not get 160 on this February test.

Last year I got 152, and this year I'm expecting a solid 155 or even less.

With the admissions coming up, I'm still going to apply (again), but I'll have to wait until next year to apply if I get rejected. If I got less than 160 (I'm 99% sure I did, unless I guessed by pure luck), according to the law school numbers, I have about 0% chance of getting accepted.

So next year and the 3rd LSAT it is...

My main question is, when should I take the 3rd LSAT? Should I take it during December...or should I wait until 2019 February again?

Should I take the 3rd one in June that's coming up, and if I don't get the score I need, take a 4th one in December?

What are your guys' opinions?

When you have taken the LSAT and submitted transcripts do law schools get an early view of your profile? Why do visiting law schools at my campus ask for my LSAC number? Is there any way law schools view you and are interested or is it only after you submit an application? Do law schools actively hunt for potential students or they just wait until the application period opens and see who submits?

Hi!

Has anyone tested at the Fordham test center in Manhattan? If so, what was your experience like there?

I live off the ABCD in Harlem, so it would be amazingly convenient to hop on the train and take it a few stops down to Columbus Circle (versus going to CUNY in Queens or Pace downtown).

Thanks!

Ok, so I have been pondering this for a while but haven't posted anything because well...I've been embarrassed. I started initially studying for the LSAT about 3 years ago, at first I didn't realize how serious this test was so I kind of just went into Barnes and Noble and bought run of the mill LSAT Prep Books, a Kaplan book and even an LSAT Prep book for Dummies(smh) at the time I was working full time teaching high school in Miami. Fast forward to the fall of 2016 I started to get a little more serious, I bought the LSAT Trainer and thinking that I would have more time on my hands in the spring of the year while I was still teaching (wth) I signed myself up for an in-person Testmasters course. Testmasters was pretty great except for the cost and the fact that I didn't actually have the time to work on the assigned homework outside of class. After this I decided to move back home and find a job that would allow me the time to focus on studying for this exam, I loved teaching, but it can be extremely taxing and I didn't believe it would allow me the time to do what was necessary for this test. This past winter I was attempting to self-study by using practice tests and drilling, but I realized that I really need video explanations to help me improve and a schedule to follow to keep me on track so I spent a bucket of cash to extend my Testmasters course for the December 2017 test. I though about extending it again but I realized 1.) I wasn't getting explanations for the all the questions I needed, often times I would have to ask "academic support" and wait a day for a response and 2.) the courses were only for 2-3 increments, I am still working full time and while I plan to study full time during the summer, I don't have the time to do so now.

I am posting this because I really need some advice, if someone asked me to run analytics on my LSAT profile I would definitely say that TIME is my biggest issue. I was always the last person finishing a test in high school and college, I may have gotten everything right, but I definitely didn't race to the finish line. I have a good grasp of the basics, and how to approach the different types of questions in LR and focusing on structure in RC. I would definitely say Logic Games are my weakness, but I would also say that Reading Comprehension is the section on which I need to increase my speed the most. Keeping that in mind I have been thinking about focusing on Fool Proofing until I reach -0 on Logic Games and starting the Premium course to get myself on a schedule for RC and LR.

I was originally thinking about doing the June 2018 LSAT but I am off during the summer so I though this would be a great opportunity to focus on studying full time to take the July or September test, but I want to put myself on a schedule now rather than leaving my intense studying until the summer; I also want to keep things fresh so I don't have to go back and re-teach myself key lessons.

What do you guys think? I want to focus on Fool Proofing using the Pacifico Method until I am able to consistently score -0 in LG but I also don't want to forget the skills for LR and RC. Should I put off PT-ing until I have been able to reach -0 in LR/LG and RC? Or am I thinking about this totally wrong? My apologies if this seems confusing my your help is much appreciated!!!

Hey guys,

I know that most of you guys are aware that there will be more test dates added this year, however, I was wondering if anyone knew when we would be able to register for them...

I am already registered to take the exam in June but would prefer to take it in July...does anyone know if that would be possible?

So i plan on taking the june administration and i have 12 fresh PTs sprinkled from 50-83 i plan on spreading them out over the next 4 months so that i can use them as a proper benchmark. My question is should i supplement older PTs [from 35-50] which are untouched or should i reuse the tests i have taken from the 60s. Thanks in advance

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I just wanted to hop on real fast and say sorry to the community! I haven't been super active the past week or so because I'm stressing out over some stuff the LSAC is doing and it's impacting my applications horribly. I promise once this is resolved I'll be able to get back to answering questions and giving suggestions/motivation!

I'm still here! :D

Does anyone else feel incapable of relaxing post exam. Almost like studying separation anxiety lol

I'm in at Yale Law School.

Thanks for all the great LSAT resources, 7Sage!

Sometimes we'll receive a notification or message about a webinar or a message about our progress. I think they appear in a little chat box when you first receive them. How do I access those? They're not in my inbox.

Edit: Found them! They're on the Contact Us page.

After taking the LSAT a few times, I feel like the self-imposed pressure of the real tests has caused me to rush during the test. I've had trouble simulating the actual nerves on the test. I'm too relaxed during PT's. Truthfully, that relaxation is what I'd like to achieve, since it has helped me score high PT's. And I'll think some more on that. However, I want to shake it up a little. I am thinking of trying all the section in 30 mins. Obviously, there is a point where this becomes absurd. How about 25 mins? How about 20? I'll play around with it, but any thoughts on how to ramp up the pressure in PT's so that it can feel closer to a real test?

Warning: long post ahead.

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on submitting an LSAT addendum? I'm really embarrassed to say this and to list my scores, but I took the LSAT last Saturday for the fourth time. I have taken the test three others times: Sept. 2016 (142), June 2017 (145), and Sept. 2017 (145). I have very bad test anxiety, and during the September 2017 test I had a panic attack. After receiving my September score, which was lower than I thought I'd get, I went to my doctor and was prescribed beta-blockers. I was scoring in the 150s on every PT I took leading up to the exam, but a week before the test I had a meltdown, emailed my advisor and instructor, and both told me not to put the test off and just take it. I have always been someone who trusts their intuition, so I am mad at myself for not holding off.

Fast forward to last Saturday's test: leading up to the test my score jumped to a 158 on PTs and I was scoring consistently higher in each section. I was pretty calm for most of the week, but Saturday morning I was clearly anxious (my heart rate was ~115 beats/minute). I ended up taking a beta blocker before the test, but I still feel like I didn't score well again this time. I could be wrong (and honestly this could just be nerves), but I'm wondering how an LSAT addendum would be taken if the reason for low scores is due to test anxiety? I don't think I would have test anxiety in law school - I think the reason I get even more anxious taking the LSAT is that I feel like this test is the only thing stopping me from getting admitted. I also don't know if an admissions committee will look negatively at this, and question whether I'd get test anxiety in law school and when taking the Bar? I'm also concerned because I already have an addendum for my GPA. It's considered low; it's a 3.02. All honest opinions/advice welcome. Thank you!

Side note: I would get in to my state school and others I'm interested in with a score in the 150s - I don't have the GPA for a T-14. I do, however, have very strong softs!

Took the February test and the proctor made a mess of the time. She cut one section short by three minutes and extended a different section by 7 minutes. Being a 7Sager gave me the focus I needed to get through it without having a panic attack. Although, few test takers didn't fare as well.

Is it worth it? Are the LR drill packets and LG bundle only available through premium? Would love your thoughts. Thanks.

Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. Back ground first, actual question further down, skip if you want:

Background: I'm going in on the Ultimate package this Friday and looking to start my build up for my next run at the LSAT. I just sat for the Feb 18 LSAT (1st "real" LSAT score) and as expected, the LG sections (thanks experimental) threw me for a loop. LG is by far my weakest section. Bullet points on my history: Self study for ~6 months (LSAT Trainer, Manhattan LR, PS LG Bible). 20 full PTs in during previous build, diagnostic 147 (I got 3 right on LG on my diagnostic), with a slow but steady increase over the next 19 (10 out of the last 11 PTs score range from 160-164 with a rolling average of ~162 for the last 5). LR typical performance is ~20-22 questions complete with -0/-3 range, RC typical performance is all passages read, all questions answered with ~-3/-4, LG on a good day sees me completing 3 games and 1st question on last one with -4/-5. I'm retired military / stay at home dad with a decent amount of time to dedicate to LSAT study. I tend to max out "good study" at 4-5 hours a day and I like to reserve at least one full weekend day to not study / family time. I've religiously watched the 7Sage LG videos during review and they have really helped my understanding increase, but I'm not where I want to be at this point.

I want to take the full CC to tighten up my knowledge / understanding of the test across all three sections and hopefully increase speed as a natural result of a deeper understanding (vs trying to "go faster"). I also know that LG is my weakest by far and the area in which I can hopefully close the gap the most. I want to target one of the next three LSAT dates (June / July / Sept) and apply to school during the fall of this year. I'll sign up for a testing date after I start scoring at / above my desired target (169).

ACTUAL QUESTION: Is it reasonable to take the CC and start fool proofing LG at the same time? I envision 2-3 hours of CC and 1-2 hours of LG specific work (fool proofing) a day. Is it reasonable for me to do both concurrently and obtain the learning objectives I have given where I am in my current understanding of each section?

Thanks in advance. This is a great community / supportive space. As a guy soon turning 46, I tend to chuckle when I read the people half my age worrying about starting law school "too late" in life. :) I'm not worried about my age in law school, I'm worried about finding a first time law job at 50...

I cancelled once, got a 160, and feel like I probably got a low 160's on the Feb Test. I have had many PT's of 170 or higher. I'm now thinking of taking the Sept test and just working the next 6 months on the LSAT. It feels ridiculous to have taken the test 4 times. And I know without a doubt that if I practice for 6 more months, and in a more in depth not scrambling mode (took sept, dec, and now feb) I can at least go high 160's. But how would a school look at a C, 160, 162 (guess), and then let's say a 168. Would they just take the highest score. Would they be forced to average? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Ok, so I have been pondering this for a while but haven't posted anything because well...I've been embarrassed. I started initially studying for the LSAT about 3 years ago, at first I didn't realize how serious this test was so I kind of just went into Barnes and Noble and bought run of the mill LSAT Prep Books, a Kaplan book and even an LSAT Prep book for Dummies(smh) at the time I was working full time teaching high school in Miami. Fast forward to the fall of 2016 I started to get a little more serious, I bought the LSAT Trainer and thinking that I would have more time on my hands in the spring of the year while I was still teaching (wth) I signed myself up for an in-person Testmasters course. Testmasters was pretty great except for the cost and the fact that I didn't actually have the time to work on the assigned homework outside of class. After this I decided to move back home and find a job that would allow me the time to focus on studying for this exam, I loved teaching, but it can be extremely taxing and I didn't believe it would allow me the time to do what was necessary for this test. This past winter I was attempting to self-study by using practice tests and drilling, but I realized that I really need video explanations to help me improve and a schedule to follow to keep me on track so I spent a bucket of cash to extend my Testmasters course for the December 2017 test. I though about extending it again but I realized 1.) I wasn't getting explanations for the all the questions I needed, often times I would have to ask "academic support" and wait a day for a response and 2.) the courses were only for 2-3 increments, I am still working full time and while I plan to study full time during the summer, I don't have the time to do so now.

I am posting this because I really need some advice, if someone asked me to run analytics on my LSAT profile I would definitely say that TIME is my biggest issue. I was always the last person finishing a test in high school and college, I may have gotten everything right, but I definitely didn't race to the finish line. I have a good grasp of the basics, and how to approach the different types of questions in LR and focusing on structure in RC. I would definitely say Logic Games are my weakness, but I would also say that Reading Comprehension is the section on which I need to increase my speed the most. Keeping that in mind I have been thinking about focusing on Fool Proofing until I reach -0 on Logic Games and starting the Premium course to get myself on a schedule for RC and LR.

I was originally thinking about doing the June 2018 LSAT but I am off during the summer so I though this would be a great opportunity to focus on studying full time to take the July or September test, but I want to put myself on a schedule now rather than leaving my intense studying until the summer; I also want to keep things fresh so I don't have to go back and re-teach myself key lessons.

What do you guys think? I want to focus on Fool Proofing using the Pacifico Method until I am able to consistently score -0 in LG but I also don't want to forget the skills for LR and RC. Should I put off PT-ing until I have been able to reach -0 in LR/LG and RC? Or am I thinking about this totally wrong? My apologies if this seems confusing my your help is much appreciated!!!

I have learned so much already, however, I know my best is yet to come.

Pros:

7Sage is truly amazing!

The Casio watch J.Y. recommends rocks during actual testing (I think that is why the price is up to $19.92, yes .92 that is odd right, at the store – but I can tell you it is worth every penny)! While they had a clock in the test center, I would have had zero chance trying to follow it during the live sections. I don’t think I would ever want to test without it – thank you J.Y.!!!!

I believe I scored exactly in line with how I was prepared – nothing caught me off guard – I felt great about my strong sections and struggled in my weak ones.

Understanding where my weak sections are actually fueled my confidence while I struggled through them if that makes sense. In other words, I knew what I didn’t know therefore it did not shake me at all while testing.

Cons:

Here is where I need your help –

I am determined to score a 160+ in June (I have been currently scoring in the low 150’s). Do I just start the course over from the beginning and try to deepen my understanding of all of the fundamentals, or, do I focus on the lowest hanging fruit which for me is by far Logic Games (this is my worst section every time and it is not even close).

I appreciate this community so much – thanks for taking the time to help someone that has been asking a ton of basic questions – I hope to pay it forward someday (after my second test of course, lol)!