What's the PT that was sequencing and out game. 4 in and 2 out. It was in one of the recent PTs

So one of my worst fears came true. I caught a horrible cold right before the LSAT. My throat started to hurt Thursday, Friday my brain felt foggy all morning, and I was bed-ridden by the evening. I slept for a maximum of 4 hours because I couldn't stop coughing and my throat hurt immensely. On Saturday morning, I wasn't as bad as I was Friday evening and night but I was sick enough that I would have stayed home from work had it been a normal weekday. But, as we all know, it was not - so I wrote my LSAT in a haze of sickness and exhaustion. I know it went poorly.

I scored 3 points under my average in Sept., with a 167 (with a 3 question bubbling error ugh). I'm Canadian and need a scholarship to go to a top American uni (the Canadian dollar is very weak and our universities are just way cheaper for law, so scholarship is absolutely necessary to validate the American route). My GPA is above the median at almost all of the T14s, and I have some cool experiences under my belt, so I knew I had that if I nailed this Dec. LSAT, I would have a really good chance at a great school and $$. The Harvard dream felt almost reachable. I worked my butt off and brought up my PT average to a 172.6, with my highest PT being a 176. I felt like 10% of the anxiety that riddled me going into the week of the Sept. LSAT. I was in a place where I was ready to rock this test. But alas, sickness.

Now, my question:

Would it be at all helpful for me to go to a clinic and get a doctor's note verifying my sickness to submit along with an explanation of why my second score didn't increase to what I expected (or perhaps why it decreased [ughhhhh])? Would this be a smart thing for me to do or is it a waste of time and money (I don't have health care coverage right now)? I'm pretty positive I don't have strep and I got the flu shot a month ago so it's not the flu - it's just a stupid, inconvenient, relentless, common cold.

I'm genuinely crushed by this whole situation, so any advice is welcomed. Thanks guys.

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Hi all,

I took the December LSAT this past Saturday and as soon as my first section started, two people in my class realized they were in the wrong room (they needed to be in the room giving them extra accommodations), so there was a loud commotion for a good 10 minutes as they were trying to figure things out, all while the timer was running. Pretty sure it docked a good few points for me... I get it, stuff happens. Just bummed that it had to happen in my room on what I was hoping would be my first and only take... I contacted LSAC and they said if I moved forward with the complaint, it'd delay my receipt of my scores for 2+ weeks so I'm thinking it's not worth it to pursue, as I'm already on the later end of the rolling application process.

That being said, if I were to explain what happened on an additional addendum, do you think law schools would just perceive it as a sissy excuse? I'm probably retaking in February but some of the schools I'm applying to don't accept the February LSAT.

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Date of Exam: December 2, 2017

Proctors: Proctors were great to me! My water bottle actually leaked on my ticket on the most important part, meaning my face was ripped out and in a separate, soggy piece. I definitely panicked a little bit, but the proctors accepted the ticket and then let me re-print after the exam so that a non-ripped ticket could go to the LSAC. However, they were inconsistent with the watches. I have one of those timer analog watches like this: https://smile.amazon.com/Toptiertimer-Custom-LSAT-Approved-Watch/dp/B00T6Y5TOS/ , and so did one other test taker. They noticed her watch and confiscated it, but didn't look at mine so I was able to use it during the test (didn't help me though - I forgot to check during the only section I regularly run out of time on and ended up not answering ANY of the questions for the last logic game!).

Facilities: Holland Hall Testing Center

What kind of room: Classroom

How many in the room: 25-30

Desks: Desks were long tables with the attached swivel chairs. We were seated with one seat between us, so there was plenty of room to spread out the booklet and answer sheet. Perfect for taking the LSAT!

Left-handed accommodation: Yes, since they're just chairs and tables.

Noise levels: Noise level was quiet. There were no disruptions during the test.

Parking: Parking was ample and free behind the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I'm not really sure! The clock in the room was not working, so I'm not sure what time we started. I do know that we got out about 15 minutes before 2, so all in all it took more than 5 hours.

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Would you take the test here again: Yes, absolutely! I took the LSAT at Vanderbilt before and we had tiny tablet desks which were just a nightmare. I was really happy that TSU had actual tables so if I take again in February it will definitely be at TSU!

I am curious.. take any PTs before completing the CC? My goal is at least a 10pt increase, and I am sitting for the Feb. exam. (If I don't make it, I'll take June, but for now I set a goal of a 10 point increase and sit for Feb.). I have 10 pts, and have no trouble buying more, and am working my way through the CC now. I realize I would face disappointment if I don't see a difference in score yet, then sort of just wasted a test, or maybe I would see a slight increase? Have any of you taken PTs before completing the CC? I have the starter for now.. and printed the custom study schedule and so far am ahead of it, b/c studying is basically my full-time job right now, thank God for this opportunity. So, anyway... take a couple of tests here and there or wait until completely done with the starter CC? That will put me around mid to end of January and give me about 4 or 5 weeks to take all of my PTs before the Feb. test.. My fear is not getting enough timed-test practice in ...

Ok guys.. One of my LR section went very unpredictable meaning that I was second guessing my every answer for that section and time pressure did not help and now I am not sure if I should cancel the score or not. I just want to know if it's ok to do it. and if I don't, what are the consequences. I am a Canadian LSAT taker btw, considering the Canada schools only.

Hey all,

Hope everyone is dealing with their post-LSAT anxiety well. For me, the exam felt fine. Much better than September, and I think I have a good shot at getting my goal score.

Still, I feel like I should register for the February exam just in case...even though I'm planning on applying this cycle. The testing center I use, and really really like, fills up pretty quickly, so I kinda want to get a spot just in case.

Thoughts?

So although I have decided to take the test in February regardless of my December score, I feel at a bit of a loss to where to restart studying. I don't know if it is because I'm still fairly tired, and relieved it is over. I just don't know where to go back to studying. Does anybody have any thoughts on how they are planning to get back at it?

Just got approved for the lsac fee waiver. Should I get the super prep II? They will give me a complimentary copy. Anything valuable in it I could use to supplement 7sage?

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I took the December test this last Saturday, and my testing center was a complete nightmare. I won't go into the details, but to just kind of put things into perspective - I had the book on my lap, pencils between my thighs, curled up trying to take a test on a table that was the size of my palm. The door was making this consistent squeaking noise for the entire 5 hours (it was defective, wouldn't close so it squeaked). I lost my train of thought every other sentence so I had my fingers closing my ears for most of the test. To make matters worse, the proctor was laughing at the entire situation.

I feel like I know the answer to this question already, but I'm wondering if I should cancel or not...

I took the test in September, and did not do as great as I could have (149). After September, I was pting at 160-164 right up until the December test.

If I don't get my desired score/canceling, I'll be taking the test in February but applying for the next cycle.

Should I cancel my score? Would 3 scores look bad if I don't?

Help :(

I just finished it last night. How 'bout those closing arguments for the defense?? Am I right? Just poking holes all up in that prosecutor's argument like he were Zorro or something. Ahhh so good. Great book!

Hi everyone,

I took the LSAT for the first time today (after not feeling prepared for September and canceling the day before), and actually felt okay about my chances at 160+. That is, until I panicked during the Games (last section), and unknowingly mis-bubbled starting mid-way through the section. I'd say I was actually doing okay on the games (moving slowly but ensuring I did the first 3 games right), and had 5 minutes left for the last one. After setting up the last game, I realized that on the second game, I'd skipped the first question (intending to go back), but didn't skip the corresponding bubble. At this point, there was about 2 - 3 minutes left and I hadn't circled my previous answers in the booklet. After trying to shift them down and randomly marking the last 3 questions, I realized that I still hadn't correctly bubbled one of the answers in the middle -indicating that perhaps (or even probably) I hadn't actually fixed the bubbling correctly. I was able to correct that answer, but have no idea if the 10-15 answers below it were bubbled correctly or not.

I'm applying this admissions cycle with targets of Vandy, Duke, and Emory (URM applicant, strong softs). Should I cancel and re-take in February (sending in materials early and explaining the mishap) or let the score come (expecting as low as 140s) and promise to have a higher score in February?

I know the mis-bubbling is my fault and definitely take responsibility, just wondering if I should cancel. Any advice is appreciated!

Date Taken: Dec. 2nd, 2017

Proctors: Really great. Timing was perfect. I had a watch that I started as soon as the proctor started and they were correct on timing down to the second. It's mostly law students (we had four in our room) with an administrator over-seeing all four rooms.

Facilities: FSU College of Law.

What kind of room: Large, lecture-style classroom. They had four rooms, broken down by last name. Very well organized and easy to find.

How many in the room: 50ish

Desks: Those long, connected desks. Plenty of room. I was spread out and never ran into the girl beside me. They put one seat between each test.

Left-handed accommodation: Maybe? I'm a lefty and was placed in the last seat on the left hand side (so no risk of me hitting another student) but that might have just been a coincidence. It really wasn't needed.

Noise levels: Very quiet. I was a little concerned about the break, but it seems like all the rooms got out at right at the same time.

Parking: Horrible. It was game day. The civic center and a parking garage were open--for $10, but I didn't have my wallet. They didn't reserve any parking for test takers. So I had to park on street parking a good two/three blocks away and run. Get there with PLENTY of time. Parking was the most stressful part of the test for me; I was the last one in the room because it took so long to find parking

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Checked in was closed at 8:30 (I think that I checked in at 8:29 haha). With instructions and everything I think we started around 9:15. Very quick.

Irregularities or mishaps: 0. They knew what they were doing and were very professional.

Other comments: There was a clock at the front of the room, but it happened to not be visible from where I sat. There was also one at the back. They didn't "reset" the clocks, so be prepared to bring your own watch if you need to check the time remaining. Temperature was fine, no issues there. The lines for the bathroom (specifically girls) was horrendous because they started out by making the ~125 girls use only the three-stall bathroom on the lower level. And all the rooms took break at the same time. The head proctor did decide it was okay for us girls to go upstairs to the 2nd floor bathroom, which alleviated the line a little bit. I'm just glad I was one of the first up there otherwise I wouldn't have been able to eat my snack.

Would you take the test here again? Yup! Great testing environment. Next time I would get there quite a bit earlier however due to parking.

Does anyone else feel disappointed/like a complete failure unworthy of being accepted to law school after taking the test? I went into it feeling fairly prepared with months of studying under my wing, but I knew a lot of my score would be dependent on how I performed on test day and the difficulty of the test given. I felt like the test itself was very fair (almost on the easier side), but I have no idea how I performed. I hoped to come out of the test feeling relieved to finally be done after all the time I've spent on preparing, but all I feel is anxiety and disappointment because I'm not confident in my performance. If anything, I feel that I underperformed.

The only section I felt confident in was LG, and for the rest it just felt like I was just on autopilot - no time to freak out or gauge how well I was doing, just had to chug through and get the questions answered. It turns out the section that I was least confident in was NOT my experimental section as I had hoped, so that doesn't help matters. Now I have to wait until freakin' January to find out whether I completely screwed it up or nailed it. And in the case that I screwed it up completely, I can't even take it again because most of my schools won't accept February scores. I’m not getting my hopes up at all about my score because I have a pretty good feeling I’m going to be disappointed. I guess I won't know for sure until January, but it's definitely not fun to invest so much time into preparing for something and only feel overwhelming disappointment instead of relief after finally finishing it.

Do we need to memorize which logical operators belong to which group #? Is that the idea? Or is it more to grasp the concept of the language and be able to read the sentence and know which is the necessary vs sufficient, thereby knowing placement for sc --> nc. I hope this makes sense. I am at about 13% in the CC and doing the quizzes. I am finding myself, in order to be fast, having to look at my notes to determine to which group the logical operator belongs. Am I acting to fast, do I need to work on identifying it not by group numbers, or do I? Am I to be working on accuracy and understanding here before speed?

On yesterday’s test, I was stuck between (A) and (C). I originally bubbled in C but realized that A was the correct answer. As time was running out, I hastily erased C and bubbled in only about 60% of A before time was called.

Im pretty confident that A is the correct answer but I was wondering if the scantron machine will process A as my correct answer even if it’s not bubbled in entirely.

Proctors: Excellent. Kind, professional, quiet during test. Really happy with them.

Facilities: Law school classroom. Building is newer, so pretty comfortable and well-equipped.

What kind of room: Large classroom, basement level, typical law class set up with tiered rows, long connected desks.

How many in the room: around 50

Desks: Long connected desk that runs length of row, seated us every other seat. Plenty of room to spread out whatever you need.

Left-handed accommodation: not necessary

Noise levels: Quiet

Parking: Small visitor parking lot on campus next to law school ($6 for all day). I arrived at 7:45 and got a spot, but at about 8:00am there was a rush and the lot quickly filled up. Outside of that, there is metered on-street parking (runs on Saturdays, max 4 hours so doesn't really work). I believe there are some other paid parking lots in the neighborhood, but not much other parking on campus. Arrive early, or be ready to park somewhere else!

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Arrived 8am, check in began 8:30, test began at about 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: None! Totally smooth.

Other comments: Visible clock on wall, chairs were ok but not super comfy. Temperature and lighting all comfortable and ideal. Vending machines with sodas and snacks available and accessible at break (accepts credit cards!). Large restroom, but line was long for rooms that started break slightly later. Hustle to the restroom if you want to go on break.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely! Probably the best option in Seattle area, with the exception of limited parking.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/2/17

Finished the Dec LSAT. Regardless of the outcome, how do you deal with the anxiety of waiting? Does anyone have any strategy? That's something I'm seriously struggling with, and I am really sure I will continue to struggle with it in the coming days :(

Proctors: 3 middle aged women, lead proctor was a university dean and professional demeanor.

Facilities: large brick academic building (MLK Jr. Communication Arts Center)

What kind of room: Mid-century-mod yellow lecture hall (tiered with steps), brick walls, no windows, lights optimal--not too bright (I worry about fluorescent-bulb-induced migraines and that was not an issue). Temperature was perfect (on a cold day).

How many in the room: around 50, and another 50 in another similar lecture hall.

Desks: generous space to spread out on long tables, with testers seated in every other chair. Chairs were attached to tables but swivel and tilt made them extremely comfortable for such a design. I am short (5'1") and my feet reached firmly to the floor, which is always a plus!

Left-handed accommodation: I am not left-handed, but I assume this is not needed due to table setup

Noise levels: quiet, except one train horn that scared the bejezus out of half the test-takers during the writing section.

Parking: plentiful, free -- but I was dropped off and that was easy too at the circle in front of the test building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: testing started as on-time as I can imagine, about 20 minutes after the published start-time.

Irregularities or mishaps: Prior to the start of the test the proctors made a mistake with booklet distribution, realized their mistake and retrieved booklets to pass them out again in the correct order (by serial number)-- this was handled professionally but caused a huge wave of laughter through the room, which was an awesome way to break the pre-test anxiety! This was my first LSAT, so not sure if this is normal: at the end, we were released 45 minutes later than I was expecting if the test had started perfectly on-time-- I assume this is due to the time spent re-distributing materials after the break and prior to the writing section.

Other comments: The combination of desk space, chair comfort, and optimal lighting made this a winning test center!

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely, I will.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/2/17

During section 2 I get a bit of a crick in my neck, I previously asked the proctor how high can I raise my test booklet off the table and she said she'd 'just let me know' big mistake! During section 3 I had it raised off the desk and she stood in front of me during a LG question and started waving her hands, startling and distracting me from this already difficult task. Luckily I'm certain it was an experimental section. Anyone have a similar issue with this test?

Congratulations to everyone who wrote yesterday. Hopefully you’re all enjoying some hard earned time off.

I’m looking for a bit of guidance on how to handle what felt like a BAD write yesterday. December was the last admissible write for my only school option next year (extenuating circumstances preventing me from studying elsewhere). I’m applying with a splitter GPA that would require a 167/168+ for admittance next year. They also average scores, so a low score stays with me. If I don’t start next cycle, I’ll be upgrading classes to boost my gpa for 2019.

PT average has been in the 172-175 range for 40 plus PTs. Lowest write in 2 plus months was a 168.

Yesterday’s Test:

RC - Felt good while writing, but I’ve had a fair bit of RC variability in writing recently ranging from -1 to -5. This felt like a strong section, so I’d hope for something at the bottom end of that.

LR1 - Total blur. I had to guess on a minimum of one question and was rushed on 3-4. As a whole I don’t feel very confident about this section. LR has traditionally been my strongest section with a -1.5 average, but I feel like this could have been anywhere from -3 to -8.

LG - Felt good on three games, but fear I may have misdiagrammed one. Guessed on two due to time. I’m thinking -5+.

LR2 - Felt like a normal LR section, but it’s tough to say.

I have no idea what to make of my potential score. Mt best guesses are ranging between -12/13 if I performed better than expect on the LR1 to -20.

Options:

If I cancel and rewrite, I’m pushing myself into the next admissions cycle and upgrading. I strongly feel that I could perform better on a second write, but the prospect of setting everything back a year is far from ideal.

Chance it on this test/cycle and risk a low score that requires a higher GPA requirement subsequently.

TL;DR

How reliable an indicator is feeling like you bombed the exam the day after the test?

What would you do?

throwaway account for 'obvious' reasons lol

we've had these semi-joke, semi-serious posts before, but...

this is it. in all seriousness, I'm going to the shop later today to acquire some quality adult diapers. it's 10:20am in my time zone and I just had to go to the bathroom. no telling this won't happen tomorrow as well lolol

worst case scenario, it's going to be nice and warm through the test.

Hey Everyone. I just wanted to say how thankful I am that I discovered 7sage. I never could have imagined finding such a great community to learn from and a format that allowed me to go at my own pace and fit my personal study needs.

I just completed the December LSAT and I have to say it's hard to not think about the potential score! However, I wanted to share some thoughts with those that may be new to the community or have been studying recently. It is incredibly easy to get discouraged by such a daunting test. If you find yourself doubting your abilities, wondering if you should just pursue something else and have high levels of anxiety about the test- believe me, that's normal. The preparation for the test is a psychological battle with yourself. The only thing really standing in your way from doing YOUR BEST, is YOU. I wrote the LSAT 3 times. The first time, I did it on a whim to just get a feel for the test. Let's just say that if you go in scoring a 148, expect a 148. My second time, I did not do enough preparation. I figured that doing a couple of timed sections back to back or some studying here and there would make the difference in achieving a high 150. OH BOY LETS JUST SAY I WAS SUPER WRONG! I received another 148 on my second test and wow was I ever shocked and dejected. I couldn't believe it. I waited out the application process and nearly got into one law school but it didn't end up happening. I was at a cross roads, I had one last chance, I had failed now twice (even though the first one was really just to see what it was like) and I was wondering if I should just walk away from the test. I thought, I could always apply as a mature student and hopefully bump up my LSAT in the future. In the first week of September, I came across 7sage, I said to myself that I would rather give it MY ALL and fail then not even try.

For those of you feeling discouraged by unsuccessful previous attempts or a lack of success in studying, understand that if you put the TIME, EFFORT AND COMMITMENT you can improve. Before this saturday's test, I scored a 160 on the September LSAT. I never dreamed that I could do it because I had allowed myself to feel dejected and to think that I couldn't do it. Believe me, the test is not easy but you can improve. If you want to go to law school and that's your end goal, you need to give this test your all. It won't be easy, there will be times when you want to give up but if you put the time and effort in -NO HALF ASSING TRUST ME!!! you will improve and you will do YOUR BEST!

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If anyone has a question, wants some advice feel free to message. Just remember, 7sage is a community and we are here to help each other.

Good luck to those studying for Februarys Test.