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Hi everyone,

I'm studying for the September LSAT, and am currently isolating parts of LR that I find especially difficult. I was wondering how you'd suggest most effectively going about drilling the fundamentals when it comes to question types you're struggling with? Do you, for example, re-watch core curriculum videos, re-acquaint yourself with fundamental concepts, and pluck the specific question type from practice tests to drill? Or something else entirely? I find that a great majority of the fundamentals make sense to me theoretically, and certain questions click right away when I apply my strategies, but there are certain questions that, no matter how long I drill the fundamentals, I can't seem to 'get' the answer (get it right away, or get it without first consulting the answer and working backwards from there). Often, I've noticed that the topic of the stimulus correlates with my anxiety about completing the question and my understanding of the argument. Of course, an unwelcome topic shouldn't impede my analysis of an argument, but it often does.

Any thoughts on how to re-learn question types or overcome topic anxiety? Thanks so much!

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Good morning everyone,

So I've been "studying" for a long time now, nearing 1.5 years. Pushed back for various reasons, but I'm really convinced that, although I'm sure I'll miss an inference, rule, strategy, whatever we learn from the curriculum, I'm very familiar with it. When I blind review, I know what I did wrong, and I obviously try not to make that mistake again.

My biggest issue I think is my anxiety when I do a PT or a timed section. Granted, I've only taken about 7 PT's, and my highest has been a 151 (BR 160), and I know a lot of people here will say "you need to go back to the curriculum" or "you need to drill more".

I agree that I may perhaps need to drill more, but don't you guys feel that the best way to overcome this issue is by doing more timed sections, drilling question types, PT'ing and then blind reviewing? I just feel that if timing and anxiety while testing is a big issue, I'd have to tackle that by doing timed sections, no? Any advice will help. I'm realistic with my goals, and will receive any constructive criticism well :D

Thanks everyone

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I apologize if this question has been asked before but I was unable to find any previous discussions. Would anyone be able to point me to a source where I can find information about which schools average your LSAT scores and which ones only take your highest score? And that goes for both American and Canadian law schools. I would very much appreciate any information because I am currently on the precipice of a mental breakdown about whether I should postpone the test to September and cancel my registration next week! Thank you :)

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So currently i work from 9-1 and study from 1-3:30 and then work from 3:30 until 8:30 and then study from 8:30 till 11 pm i have a pretty packed schedule and i was wondering what you guys think of taking a break on saturday from studying. Seeing as i keep the sabbath, i wouldnt be able to start studying until 9:30 pm and on. So it would be a late night anyways. Any thoughts?

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Although the instruction said "Snacks and beverages are permitted only during the scheduled rest break. Consuming food or beverages in the testing room at any other time is distracting for other examinees and is not permitted."

However, it could be uncomfortable not to drink any water for approximately 2 hours (3 section plus instruction, etc.)

Therefore, can someone share their insight on what the real situation is like? Will test proctors allow us to drink water in the middle of a section?

Thanks.

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To enhance its commitment to access and diversity, LSAC has entered an innovative partnership with the Khan Academy to develop free, online practice materials for the LSAT with the goal of making personalized, online LSAT practice free for all. LSAC is also expanding the frequency and formats of the LSAT to reduce barriers to entry to legal education, including piloting the first nationwide digital LSAT exam on May 20, 2017. Further, LSAC has made a significant investment in the Council on Legal Education Opportunity, Inc. to assist in that organization’s efforts to advance the diversity of the legal profession.

Source: http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/pressreleases/testy-president-and-ceo

On another note, I also read in a different link that apparently LSAT test takers will be able to take the LSAT as many times as they want, and the number of LSAT test dates per year will be increased to 6 (from 4).

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Hi, i was wondering if, after watching the video explanation, you still finish after the suggested amount of time should one try again the same day? Or wait till another day?

P.s. i fool proof by trying the game and then watching JY and then attempting it again right after. And then again the next day and then the next week

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Similar to many of you, I suffer from bad test anxiety. If I don't get in the zone within the first 5 questions, I panic for the whole test, effectively snowballing. Really bad too. It's causing 10-15 point swings lately. When I'm chill, I can score 170+ pretty consistently. Otherwise, it's the Wild West.

I freeze up, don't even go through my strategies, and I just feel like this is my first test ever. Everything I've done goes out the window. I misread rules. I forget diagrams. Hell I can't even answer a main conclusion question. I don't understand it. I feel like I can provide an in depth explanation to a vast majority of questions and games. But sometimes, I just feel like I don't know anything. It affects me most on games too. Perhaps because I'm used to finishing every game in less than 6 or 7 minutes. So when I don't, I panic and just move on. This happened during my September test and I scored 9 points below my average.

I've tried meditation, I work out 3x a week, and feel like my balance is pretty good with friends and family. But none of that seems to be helping much. All of this so weird to me. I'm not an anxious person whatsoever.

I was hoping for any guidance. I know this is different from most posts but at the same time, I feel that mental state is something that is sometimes over looked. But again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I finished the CC last week and i am starting to foolproof, assuming that it will take me 4 weeks to foolproof that leaves me with 10 weeks to PT. What do you think about this timeline.?

P.s. my LR scores are around -2 so i am not so sure i need to drill them. And i am practicing the memory method daily.

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Hi everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion where we can post ideas about possible snacks during the 15 minute break. I myself tried with raw almonds and dried prunes on my first actual LSAT try... I was feeling great, mentally and physically, no hunger, not full either, but my score was low. Of course, this is just a simple correlation (maybe there was no relationship and a third factor, not being prepared enough, which influenced my score) but nonetheless I would like to know what are some good options people have tried in the past. Thank you very much and I look forward to this discussion :)

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Hello guys

At this point that June LSAT is coming, I am not clear about what I should do for the remaining one week.

My plan is to take a practice test (PT78) on Monday and for the rest of the week do individual sections.

The reason why I don't want to keep taking practice tests during the week is that I don't want to de-motivate or lose confidence in the case that my score turns out be bad. Also, doing individual sections can help me to fine tune and solidify strategies for each section and not exclude blind review.

Any feedback or thought is welcome.

I hope you guys have a victory in June LSAT

Thanks

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I'm having trouble differentiating the IC from the premises and I don't like IC questions in general...if something leads to a conclusion then it makes sense that it's evidence/fact/premise. It's hard to understand what IC even does. It's like a conclusion that's not the overarching conclusion but it gives support to it.

If we have facts that are all linked to each other in a causal chain, let's say like 5 sentences/relations ,,, and these set of facts, going from one to the other, leads to an ultimate conclusion, where do we draw a line between this chain and say "okay, everything before this led up to this sentence, and this sentence directly supports the main conclusion, so this is the IC".

Is my definition or idea of it wrong? Is the IC, where it exists, a tangent conclusion or is it just the next broadest point in the argument? And I know the conclusion indicators and all but it's still tough. I feel like LSAC chooses to call some things a premise and some things an Intermediary Conclusion.

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LSAT is in two weeks (little less). Having learned the hard way, please take this advice if you're grinding hard right now. Don't be sitting all day long studying from morning to night.

Before you possibly dismiss this advice because it sounds like you're being told to eat your vegetables, gather round and listen..

Get atleast like 30 minutes of some kind of exercise every day, come home and eat a clean and light meal and continue studying. Exercise and healthy eating not only has the obvious benefit of making all you sexy people look even sexier for the summer, but getting home from a workout/jog/movement, I've noticed I'm much more hyped and attentive and my brain feels like a well oiled machine.

If your practice test scores are leveling off and not going up and you're studying all day long and you just don't know why, it's because you can't study this sedentary way for the LSAT and you're not giving yourself time to reflect on the new information and give your brain a break.

On days that I bummed it and studied all day with no break no exercise and eating foods that weren't wholesome, my scores were lower than on days where I got some exercise and took breaks and ate cleaner meals. I am 100% sure that this was true in my case and by LSAT logic it obviously doesn't have to be true in all cases but give me the benefit of the doubt for a second!

You might feel okay right now and rested and your stomach is full and you're feeling warm, but I know the grind is tough. Studying for days on end and only moving from your bed to your desk, your thinking skills will get sluggish. I'm not selling you a fitness plan...I'm not a fitness guy by any means,but I think that this is how you maximize your mental capacity and agility leading up to the test and while you study. It's the second aspect of studying that MOST people completely ignore and not only ignore, but completely work against.

I was studying this wrong way leading up to my first LSAT in February. My diagnostic was in the 150s and my PT scores got to the high 160s which was my realistic goal. a few PTs went by and my scores were going down to the lower 160s where they leveled off at like 162 from the previous 167,168s I was getting. The week before the test my PT average dropped to 160 and 161 and even lower on test day to a 158. It was unimaginable. I was guessing my way (figuratively) to a 158 at my peak!!

When I started studying again, it took a week to get into the groove of things and now I'm reviewing old practice tests and realize I've made some very VERY stupid mistakes (that I didn't catch before even after reviewing)! nothing had changed except I was fresh n ready to go. The only difference now is that I took a break and study maybe 5-6 hours a day instead of 10-12 and maybe you need more or maybe you need less, but don't be afraid to take an hour or two away from studying in order to recuperate. If anything, it's actually part of studying so you're not wasting time.

we are studying what's IN the practice test book so hard that we forget to train the parts of us that are tested during the test. Just like you can play a sport like football and think you'll get better at tackling people just by repeated tackles, when in reality there are supplemental courses of action that these athletes take to assist them with it.

Or in LSAT terms, just because something (studying) contributes to an outcome (your highest possible score), it doesn't mean that it guarantees it.

Don't beat yourselves up, and please, try it for just one day and see how your studying goes the day after. We think we're grinding hard by being in our chairs all day when in reality we are being sedentary and it's messin with our potential.

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I'm signed up for the LSAT on June 12th and I feel about 90% of where I want to be but not quite ready to where I'd be willing to burn a test prior to the changes. Now that I don't have to worry about test limits, maybe I should just take it and hope for the best. Do you think schools will still take your highest score or maybe now with the changes they will start averaging since people may be incentivized to take as many tests as possible since there aren't yet any downsides.

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Hey all,

This morning I dove into the cement pool that is Game 2 from June 2000.

I consider myself a 'solid' gamer. I average -3 on a full timed section give or a take a question. A number with which I would be perfectly fine on test day, by the way. However, this game has 7 questions (why? just why?) and could easily take that score to a -7, if not worse.

I've noticed that all of these PT's with the 'dreaded' games offer more cushion, even at the top. For instance, 87/101 on the June 2000 LSAT clicks a 170.

How prevalent are games of this level of difficulty on the more modern LSATs? I think I would drop dead in there if I were to see a game like this. Especially game #2!!!!!

Admin edit:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-1-game-2/

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