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The very large array of skills and materials we need to master in order to succeed on the LSAT can make it difficult to know how to approach the task of studying for it. On any given day, where do we aim our efforts? This is an important question, and in my own studies, I frequently got it wrong. Overcoming this challenge was prerequisite to succeeding on this test for me, and I wasted a lot of time and effort learning it the hard way. I hope that by sharing my experience and my study methods with all of you, you can do it right from the beginning and save yourself a lot of hassle.
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I am writing because I was supposed to take the Sept LSAT and apply to law school fall 2016. I took a Testmasters course summer 2016 and only saw my score improve by a few points (142 to 147). Part of my low performance was my lack of commitment to studying and another part of it was how it was taught. Since that course, I bought the LSAT Trainer and have studied from that for about a month or so. I graduated from undergrad in 2014 and work full time with an awesome immigration attorney since then. My point is that I'm lost as to how to approach studying for the LSAT. I want to purchase 7sage because it offers explanations and more structure (which is something I desperately need). So, has anyone had a similar experience such as mine? I fear I will jumble up all the methods and be even more miserable than I currently feel now. I plan to take the June LSAT and I want to get a score 160-165. I know I can do it, I'm just not sure how to do it. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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I just noticed that none of my lessons are marked as completed. I still have the different percentages at the top of the page but that's it. If this is a new change how do we now determine which lessons have been completed? I'm logged in from work and haven't checked any other computers or phones. Using Internet Explorer. Can't access other browsers at the moment.
Has the flash player option for videos been discontinued? Sometimes my computer will not load the default player, and I noticed that the alternative option doesn't seem to be available for me any more.
Is this the case for anyone else?
So I'm finally getting my hands on the earlier PT used in the CC (I have been using the silent videos)...yay me! This is probably a dumb question, but how are y'all timing yourselves with the question sets at the end of each section if y'all are using paper copies since most are in different tests and maybe even books? Seems like it would be hard to get an accurate time measure switching PT books for one question.
I know it's recommended to wake up early or be ready by 8:30ish to simulate test-day conditions, but what about the June exam that starts at 1pm?
I'm an early-morning person so the June start time is a serious nightmare (or rather, afternoon-mare) for me, because I tend to hit an afternoon slump, or at least feel not as alert around noon. I've tried waking up later, but having a hard time with things like giving up morning runs when there's less traffic, to generally feeling bad about losing that morning study time, when I'm studying full time and usually get a good chunk done before noon. I feel more productive on an early morning routine, but perhaps it's not worth the risk of a mid-day-slump-during-June-exam?
Any thoughts or experience on getting used to the June LSAT start time?
Hello,
I'm not sure how to contact 7Sage customer support. Is there a "Contact Us" feature that I'm not seeing? I initially purchased the Ultimate package with the expectation of taking the June 2017 LSAT; however, I just accepted a new job that requires an out-of-state move as well as juggling two jobs between now and July. Given all these changes, I won't be able to devote enough time to studying between now and June and am hoping to extend my access to the content I purchased through September. Is that possible?
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I am taking my first practice test soon. Should I do the circling for unsure answers that is discussed in the blind review method? I am basically confused if this method is for practice tests or just individual sections.
I only have a few days access left in this invaluable 7sage world, and thought it'd be good to reach out to the other ancient (35+ year old) folks who are likewise chasing their law school dream later in life. For me, I see it as a productive use of a mid-life crisis (sports cars depreciate much faster than JD degrees), and something I've always wanted to do. Whilst doing the school tours and tests I'm surrounded by babies/young whippersnappers, but I'm hoping once I settle into a part-time/weekend program the average age will increase a bit. Learning the test seemed a bit intuitive after having spent a decade or so working with lawyers and picking up how they think, but study time was always sandwiched between career, family and civic duties. 7sage was the perfect fit, and I watched my average score jump about 15 points from beginning to end of the course. I've talked a few friends into considering law school as well, and will be singing the praises of this site for years.
So what about you? What inspired the return to school? Challenges? Favorite schools?
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Hey guys just need some advice. So, my first take was yesterday and I have been studying for about a year. I can't really gauge what type a score I will get. If need be, my second take would be June. I just don't know when to start studying for the June LSAT. I am feeling quite drained and don't feel like jumping right into studying but I don't want to get sluggish with the methods either :/. Also, if I don't start studying again would it be wise to focus on weaknesses rather than doing the core curriculum again? Some pointers on that would be great as well.
Thanks again :)
Hi guys,
I want to summarize some stuff in points and hope you guys can chime in and give some much appreciated suggestions!
-studied one month 6-8 hours a day for February LSAT. Went from 149-164 average.
-took February test, Spazzed out on LG and RC , my BEST sections, and missed a section each (guessed) and surprisingly did well on LR when I was doing poorly before *i was more confident though in my answer choices that I got to than I have ever been on my PTs so I guess that's a plus
-GPA is 3.26 so I need a low to mid 170 to get into USC.and a mid 160 for UCI. due to my recent mess up I think USC is definitely out and UCI is in critical condition.
-need to set backup plan in motion.
-I have certain weaknesses such as applying the flaws I see in passages of LR to answer choices, I hate inferences in LR and some smaller stuff which is awefully specific. Powerscore book didn't help me because I feel like it focuses so much more on structure than content. Very basic and generalized I was so disappointed. It didn't help me to be a better critical thinker like JYs videos on say LG did.
-I need a more tailor made approach, I need to read and retain better, and I need to up my vocab as well lol. And my timing needs to definitely improve.
-if you guys think it's possible to get to the low to mid 170s in the June or September LSAT, then I will start studying in about two weeks regardless of how February turns out.
I broke 160 on my PTs very early on in my studying...hit a 166, then started to decline back to 161-162.
Thanks and sorry for the long post. But what do u guys recommend in terms of study guides and options given my scenario?
Hi all,
How many times would you retake a logic game when you are under time the 2nd time around? For example, I just did a medium-difficult logic game. I royally messed up on the board and took 20 minutes on what was supposed to be a 10 minute game. Then I repeated the game right afterward, this time doing the game board correctly, and got well under the target time (6 minutes).
At this point, I will definitely be repeating the game tomorrow and a week from now, and maybe further along the line than that. I've read @Pacifico's awesome post and seen the video and guide for the Fool Proof method on 7sage. When you''re hitting under a target time, what "standard" do you use when you know to move onto another game? For example, in the scenario above, would you redo that game or not, and why?
I look forward to commiserating with you later today!
So I took the test today and my clumsy self accidentally ripped the side of the answer sheet. It wasn't a big tear and it was not directly on the section answers bubbles. I asked the proctors and they said it was fine. I am worried because I am under the impression that LSAC scores the test via one of those score machines that requires you to insert the answer sheet in and since mine was partially damaged, it won't be scored :( Am I being paranoid right now?
Hi, I wanted to check out some of the live RC passages that JY does for PT5 and 6 but I can't seem to find them. Are they not included in the starter package? Thank you!
Does anyone know how much PT 76-79 differ compared to the rest of the PTs that are available?
So here's a general question for anyone who's ever had this awful experience...It appears I'm going to be sick on the day of the February LSATs after having the flu on the day I had to take the December ones. ( I think I tempted fate by loudly announcing to the universe, "oh well, at least I know I won't get sick again for the February LSATs, haha" after taking the first ones). The first time I didn't take any meds (because I didn't want to further dull my thinking), didn't touch or breathe on anyone, and just tried to muscle through. This time, all I appear to have is a cold, but I'm wondering if you all know of any cough/cold meds that you can take that won't make you drowsy or dull your thinking at all. Has anyone been in this position before? Did you have suggestions for how to get through this? I got through a test with a flu without it too much affecting my score (just a 165, but it's not the best I can do by a longshot) so a cold should be easy. But I just don't want to take anything that's going to put me out of it.
Cheers and good luck tomorrow!
It feels great to eliminate all incorrect AC and pick out the correct AC, not only out of POE but because I've uncovered the reasoning for its correctness. But that kind of time is a luxury of prep and not available on test day. I know that I will need to bank time in order to finish the sections. The banked time will come from things like picking out an assumption and prephrasing the answer or guessing between two possibilities and unemotionally moving on to the next question.
But at what point in the prep should we include those sort of strategies?
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Okay, so here's my story, it's long, so bear with me.
In November 2015, I applied for September 2016 admission. I hadn't touched the LSAT yet and I tried to study; however, I quickly realized it was too difficult as I was also in my final year of school (fifth year) and working a fairly demanding job on my days off. I had registered for the December LSAT but I withdrew prior to writing it as I knew nothing about the LSAT at this point. By February 2016 (the last accepted LSAT for the 2016 cycle), I realized it was better to take a year off and study for the LSAT properly. To be honest, applying during this cycle was a complete waste; however, at the time, I did not realize what the LSAT entailed and was told an anecdote where a girl studied for 6 weeks and got accepted, so I was basing my studying on 6 weeks.
I finished school in April 2016 and did not start studying right away because I had just completed my undergraduate and wanted some time off. Around June, I started studying using the Powerscore books, with the intention of writing the October LSAT. However, the week of the LSAT, I still did not feel prepared enough and I also did not really think I was benefiting from the Powerscore books as much as I could have, so the week of the October LSAT, I joined 7Sage (LSAT Premium). In the meantime, I applied for admission to the September 2017 cycle.
I enrolled for the December 2016 LSAT but the day before I realized I was still not ready (I had not even finished the core curriculum of 7sage at this point), and I withdrew. One of my friends ended up having a disturbance during their LSAT, which essentially wasted a take for her. As I only withdrew the day before the LSAT, I actually didn't tell my family and went to the test centre and wrote a PT instead that day in the library of the college I was supposed to be writing in. I also upgraded to LSAT Ultimate+.
Fast forward to today, I have improved a great deal (thanks to 7sage!!!) but I still do not feel completely ready. The first time I kind of rushed through the curriculum but now I have been going through the curriculum more slowly, as a result, I have not finished the Ultimate+, though I have finished the Premium Level. I went from a 147 LSAT in June to 161 on Test 64 two weeks ago. However, that is the only test I wrote where I scored in the 160s so far (I have not written any other PT since). Also, knowing the February LSAT is undisclosed also makes me slightly apprehensive because I won't be able to check my answers.
I know I can do better if I continue to study the way I have been studying now but I also don't know if I should waste another cycle and I feel like the girl who cried wolf in a sense that I always withdraw from my LSAT before I have written it, citing the need for more time. However, I would always apply for these tests prematurely, without actually being ready.
So, should I withdraw from tomorrow's LSAT or should I just write it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
So yesterday I received an acceptance notification from UChicago and a denial from The University of Michigan. By all accounts, Chicago is a much better law school so how was I outright denied by U-M but accepted by Chicago?
I always play "Neighbors" by J. Cole before I start a test, and I go in feeling like I'm going to kill it. Well I am... I am!
Just some background for a minute, I have no job and one class at school I can devote as much time to the LSAT as I need to. I am not afraid of hard work. GPA is T1 level and the only instance that stands between myself and my dream school is the LSAT.
The problem I have been having is with the work in the syllabus. I try and shoot for 8 hours a day working on the 7sage course, but I've currently been feeling a little down by the time inconstancies between how long it takes me to do a problem set and how long it actually says it should be done in.
Each problem set (5 Q's) has a time of 30mins to complete. When I screenshot the questions and print ~5 minutes, take the 7 minutes for timed conditions, another BR of about ~20 minutes to really understand why the answers are right or wrong, and finally watching the video explanations ~30 mins; I realized each problem set is about an hour, give or take, and after putting in four hours I will take a break. When I return, I see that I've only had "two hours of progress" for the week. I can't seem to shake off this notion that I am not doing enough, or maybe I am doing it in a way that is not correct for studying. Nevertheless, I am learning so much from each and every problem set and lesson, but I have ran into the problem where I still have 24 hours of studying for this week to do and I am afraid I will just keep getting buried as I progress.
Any thoughts :/


