Hey, guys! I haven't registered for CAS yet. Isn't this where you get your GPA? My undergrad GPA was 3.18 and my GPA from my paralegal certificate is 3.7. Is that considered grad school? Anybody have any insight and can possibly give me a rough estimate of what my GPA would be?

So since the September scores came out I've tried my very best to keep a positive outlook and mentality. I took a few timed sections and did fairly well (-2/-4 LR, -0 LG, -1 RC) but in the back of my head I can't shake the feeling of that just being a fluke. I feel like I'm somehow cheating myself and that those scores are not really representative of my ability. I justify it by looking at my September results (-13 LR, -0 LG, -7 RC).

I tend to be someone who likes to offer motivation and to be encouraging to others. A lot of the time I'm even able to internalize it myself. But lately that's just not happening.

I now feel like T-14 is not possible for me. As someone with a crap GPA and an LSAT that doesn't impress, I'm just not going to get into the schools I want to. I KNOW I am capable of being successful in law school. I KNOW I could handle a T-14 and their work load. I just feel extremely restricted by my past and have no way of expressing that to these schools in any meaningful manner.

While I understand that a 163 is not a score to laugh at, a 163 coupled with a 2.7 cumulative gpa pushes me really far down the ladder of schools who will consider me. Even with a compelling story (4 years in the Marine Corps, 70 credits of 4.0 after the Marine Corps) I feel there is nothing I can do to make up for my discretion when I was 18/19 other than a high LSAT.

I know no one likes to hear people complain. I know I'm not the only one in a situation like this. I know I need to suck it up and be positive. I just can't seem to flip that switch right now.

I am sorry for the long post. When I try to talk to people in my life about this all, they just don't understand. I'll try not to be too much of a negative Nancy in the community...I just need to get this off my chest.

i am in the middle of my CC about the different indicators that are broken down into groups 1-4, however this is my first time studying for the LSAT and i am not sure when i should look for these indicators in the LR. so how do i know when i need to look for these indicator? what would the question look like so i know when to apply the methods i have been learning......

for example: i know that i need to rephrase the conclusion when i am answering a question that is asking for the main conclusion.

so what key words should i look for in the question to know that i need to apply my methods from group 1-4 ( i know the groups are just indicator words)

My strong sections are LR and RC, and weak is LG. Right now I am finished the CC - aside from LG. What should I do,focus on LG for a few weeks, to the exclusion of other sections, or do LG and start doing timed practice sections...and then when I am done with the LG in CC, do complete PT's? I do not think it is a good idea to focus too much on LG because A: It only makes up a quarter of the exam, and B. I can focus on and reinforce my strong sections. Thoughts? Advice? I test in December.

I seem to be paralyzed when it comes to timed tests and am wondering if changing my approach might help. I have now taken 4 practice tests and scored roughly the same on all of them - a 154 and 3 152s. Now, my Blind Review scores are 162-166, so I know I can do much better, but seem to get tripped up by the time. In my job, I preach following the procedure untimed to reproduce it accurately and confidently, then speed comes with practice. I wonder if it would make sense here as well to go through the full test a few times untimed, but monitoring where I am at specific points, to get used to the process before diving right into timed PTs immediately after finishing the curriculum. How have others approached this? I'm scheduled to take the December test and want to make the best use of my time to maximize my potential. Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

Right now we are going through a heatwave and its 105F in Southern California. I have been thinking if its a good idea to take preptests in less than optimal temperatures like not using the AC during hot weather like this? I know testing centers tend to blast the AC but I want to prepared foe anything.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts."

Since the September test and score release I have been really struggling to pull myself out of a slump. Thanks to this community and the encouragement that I've gotten I can say I am feeling better and back at my studying. Thank you for being awesome people.

The biggest take away from my experience is that you can never stop preparing. There will be no moment when you become an LSAT god and score 180 on every test with 10min to spare each section. Perfection is not the goal, accuracy is. Everybody, even masters like J.Y., still make mistakes on this test. The only tool we have in our bag is how prepared we are to take it.

Which leads me to truly believe that every single one of us is capable of achieving our dream score on the LSAT. Because this test is all about how prepared, experienced, and confident you are in yourself; we are all able to do what we set our minds to. It might take different amounts of time from one person to the next, but it's 100% doable.

So if you are ever frustrated by a section, question, passage or game, remind yourself that it is a learning opportunity. Tell yourself that since you've seen it before you will never let yourself fall for that trap again. Eventually the LSAT will start having less and less tricks up its sleeve to throw you off. Your confidence will continue to grow, and you'll have more experience under your belt.

Here's to all my re-takers, first timers, past/future successes.

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I took the September 2017 LSAT and didn’t do as well as I wanted. I just did a blind review and did slightly better, but I tracked my incorrect answers and discovered that the ones I miss are where I have the choices narrowed down to 2: the right answer and a wrong one. But I consistently pick the wrong one. Is there a way to fix this?

Hey just wondering if anyone else is having trouble loading the applications on LSAC for Yale and Harvard? I've tried multiple times on different days and it won't let me load the application. I thought it might be because of volume of people applying.

Any thoughts? Anyone else successfully uploaded or submitted?

What is the date of the feb exam ?

Hey all,

I just went over the September 2017 exam and realized how many silly mistakes I made. Out of the 11 LR questions I missed, I really should not have missed 7 of them. In RC, I shouldn't have missed 3 - they were all super easy in hindsight. Over the past few months I've been thinking of what I did wrong on and leading up to test day, and I thought I'd post the biggest mistakes I made in hopes someone might learn from them (including me :) )

1. Being a night owl, but waking up early.

For the last two weeks leading up to the exam, I forced myself to wake up at around ~6am every day, eat breakfast, get ready to take a PrepTest by 8:30am. Thing is, I'm definitely a night owl, and I never really got used to waking up early. Additionally, when school started to really hit (I'm a senior in undergrad), I wasn't going to bed till 11 or 12am, yet I was still waking up at 6am because I felt I had to condition myself.

All this ended up doing was making me really tired all the time. I was averaging 4-5 cups of coffee a day, and consequently I definitely did not feel 100% on test day. I think you should condition yourself, but don't be uncompromising in it. As in, if you are lacking sleep, get sleep!

2. My no-burnout strategy backfired.

Everyone told me not to do a PT a day, so I thought - I'll just do a PT every other day leading up to the exam! Guess what. Still burns you out. I did that for the last two weeks leading up to exam week - I think I was still burnt out come test day.

3. I got to the test center too early.

I was really paranoid I would be late to the test center on test day. Consequently, I woke up at around 5am that morning - had my coffee, ate breakfast, and got to the testing center by 6:30/7am. Unfortunately, we didn't actually start the exam until ~10:15 - 10:30. So while others had only been awake for 2/3 hours, I'd already been up for 5!

4. I was a chatty-Cathy before the test.

Okay, this is a bit embarrassing to admit, but I met this girl who got to the testing center as early as I did. We talked for like the whole 3 hours straight leading up to the exam. It was amazing. It was like a movie - two starcrossed lawyers find eachother during the LSAT - like some kinda rom-com. We talked about our goals, our life ambitions, our childhoods, everything!

But all that talking actually wore me out, leaving me tired before we even started taking the exam. I think before the exam, you should try to hone your mind. Focus, get in a zen-state if you will (some 7sager talked about meditating beforehand).

5. I overdid it on the caffeine.

As soon as I woke up, I had a breakfast with a coffee. Then when I got to the testing center, I started sipping on a 5-hour energy. This left me jittery and nervous through the exam, especially at the beginning, and compounded the effect of #6...

6. I flipped shit at the experimental section.

I actually started crying. I had experimental RC, and it was all going really well! The first three passages seemed really easy, and in fact they all were about topics I'm well-versed in. But, before I even got to the last passage, the proctor called 5 minutes. I started tearing up right there and then. All the hard work and studying leading up to the exam felt like it went down the drain. It would be 7-8 questions I would miss automatically, kissing my 170 goodbye. I carried that defeated feeling through the rest of the exam, and it showed.

7. I threw the strategies out the window and tried to mind-muscle my way through.

Being distraught about the experimental section, I just lost all grasp of the strategies. I wasn't even diagramming logical chains for inference questions. Simple contrapositive answers felt like a foreign language instead of ez pz lemon squeezy. I forgot the distinction between necessary and sufficient assumptions. I wasn't identifying the conclusions, I wasn't rephrasing referential phrases. Nerves got to me and I threw all techniques out the window.

I still ended up getting a 167 on the exam, but that was 6 points lower than what I had averaged in previous PTs. I hope you all can learn from my mistakes, as I hope I will come the December test. I think bottom line is you have to find what works best for you. A lot of people were pushing me to wake up early all the time, and it didn't pay off. I let nerves get the best of me and I didn't follow J.Y.'s wisdom.

But December 2 is a new day, and I'm hoping to kill it :)

I live near Buffalo, NY and have had difficulty finding in-person study buddies. I'm taking PTs 52-61 and 29-38 in prep for December, and have already taken basically all of the most recent tests (from 2011-2017), and would love to chat via Skype or Blue Jeans or GoToMeeting with anyone who just wants to talk through LR and LG, which I find really helpful. So far my cats and family have lent their ears to me but it's different because they're not invested in the same way.

I'm free weekday evenings 8pm EST until midnight!

Is anyone else having trouble printing Necessary Assumption Questions from Tests 1 through 9? I have tried switching from Safari to Fire Fox without any luck.

Looking for a PDF that encompasses every type of LR Question ex. MSS PSA SA and the definition. My hope is to have a guide I can review so I can get all these different types of questions down right away. Thanks

I'd like take a minute before I start a PT to thank the 7sage community. Every time I need help or encouragement I either find a nugget of wisdom in past discussions or find a tremendous amount of help when I ask a direct question. You guys rock. Thank you!

Hello,

Just wondering, is it too late to the February LSAT for fall applications. Most schools I have chosen, have deadlines starting in March. Thank you in advance for your feedback.

RC is my strongest area right now, I am scoring 20 questions correct on average. Unfortunately, my speed is very low, I am only able to do two passages in 35 minutes. English is my second language btw. Please share if anyone has tips on how to improve on time.

SO three weeks ago I got rear ended and I have a pretty bad concussion as a result (along with all of the dreadful physical and cognitive symptoms) and my doctors have said that taking the LSAT in December as I had planned would not be smart and there's no way I would be ready. I was super bummed because I had already taken a year off of schooling to work and now this means I have to take another year off.

Has anybody dealt with this before and have any advice? I'm going to try and get a refund from LSAC but I'm not sure how to go about it, as well as try and cope with this let down. But everything happens for a reason right? :)

What are people's thoughts/preferences on bubbling? Do you bubble as you go or at the end of each section? Also is it safe to roughly fill in the bubbles(by roughly, I mean a quick dark scribble), I have this paranoia of having my answer sheet misread, so I find myself wasting a lot of time filling in the circle "properly"..

I've been studying for my LSAT, and I have so many burning questions & no one to go to. My pre-law advisor never answers my emails, my friends are already in law school & are "too busy" to help & my parents aren't familiar with the exam. HELP

Am still studying for the December re-sit and plodding through the materials. But I want to drop in a quick line to say Thank You JY and team!! you guys are brilliant!! I wish I had bought the paid course for my June LSAT prep. Unfortunately, I had connectivity issues at my apartment and chose against buying a course purely for that reason which I sincerely regret now coz it feels like a lot of wasted effort. The powerscore bibles were my companions and were a great introduction but nowhere close to how good the 7sage curriculum is!!! not even close!!

loving the curriculum, loving the presentation, enthused by the rigour of the content and the connected community....loving it all as a whole.....feel way more confident now....i used to take the PT's and have this horrible feeling of never knowing for sure how I did....was never very sure of myself....

simple concepts like validity were left vague in the powerscore bibles leaving one craving for clarity.....

miles to go before i sleep.....but can't help feeling confident from within and more sure footed....perhaps ignorance is bliss and maybe it's because I still have a lot of material to cover....

investment in the course feels worth every penny....

love u guys and a BIG THANK U!!

So I've seen multiple posts recommending against bringing parents to law school visits/accepted student's days, and I totally get that. I'm wondering if it is ok to bring a parent to a law school fair. I've been searching for answers online and cannot seem to find anything!

Just some background info: I went to Villanova's law school fair this past week (myself) and noticed a few parents there (it was a relatively small fair). I'm going to the Philadelphia law school fair tomorrow, and I would like to bring my mom with me (if it doesn't leave a negative impression). My mom is kind of clueless about the whole admissions process and school rankings, but she tries to get really involved in it anyway. I appreciate her enthusiasm, but I want her to get a better feel for everything (especially since she's been helping me pay for lsat courses,tests, CAS, and everything else!) not to hate on any schools (because that's not cool) but for instance she views Weider as a top school and is begging me to apply there. My aspirations are a little higher and I'm hoping that bringing her would help her understand my viewpoint.

When you register for the LSAT, having selected your region, the LSAC provides a list of testing centres along with dates and times. I know that things can change before the test, but are these times typically accurate?

For example, if I register for a test at location X and the date and time given is "02/10/2018, 2:00 PM", can I start preparing for this test safe in the knowledge I'll sit it in the afternoon? I don't want to prepare for my exam thinking I'll be taking it in the afternoon only to find out they moved it to a 9am a week before! :'(

Hey guys,

RC happens to be my worst section, by far. I am not seeing any improvement between practice tests in that area specifically. I am really stressed out about it. Any suggestions as to how to see improvement?

Well, add another school to the list.

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