Creating this thread to quell some of the anxiety. ;) Will be updated when it's actually Grey Day.

Feel free to chat here about it.

Hi all,

I'm retaking the LSAT in September, and am trying to get together a study plan. I'm thinking I'll take one PT a week, go over one section per day afterwards, and have two days to rest/work on the soft parts of applications. I'm shooting for a 5 point increase, which I believe is doable (I underscored on the LSAT in June). Does anybody else have thoughts/strategies for retaking? I know I should review the CC for the parts of the exam I'm weak on, but I'm not quite sure what to do beyond just the PT per week.

Thoughts?

Hey guys, I feel like I've hit a wall...

I just don't feel like I get the LSAT. I understand that it's a learnable exam, but I think there is something wrong with how I'm approaching it. The problem is I don't know what that is - and it's mostly with LR. I scored a 154 on my first diagnostic, and I was aiming to write in Sept, and I'm not sure if I should anymore. I do really want a 170+ (I know it's possible, and that I am capable, I just need to better understand the logical structure of this exam).

Best tips for understanding/applying theory? I'm going to spend this week drilling LR sections and BR each action. Any other tips, or what helped you get to your aha moment? I feel the gears moving, and like I'm starting to get it.....but I'm not there yet.

only is a group 2 indicator. So in lawgic it would be T->W ?

So, I'm faced with a dilemma. I scored a 169 on the June LSAT but I really badly wanted a 170+ on my exam. My 169 is nice because it still puts me in the 97th percentile on my score report, and, coupled with my GPA, it's really strong for 9 out of the T14 schools. My top choice is Duke, which is an easy target for me, but I am a sucker for prestige and I want to be in the 99th percentile if for no other reason than that I am massively insecure. I'm afraid to retake, though, because I think that a high score with a single take looks pretty strong on an application, and I had two amazing sections that schools will likely notice, which could compensate for my bad RC section in the minds of some admissions officers. (My score breakdown was -6 RC (ugh), -1 LR (25/26), -3 LR (22/25), and -0 LG, for what is typically a high raw score of 91/101.)

If I retake, I run the risk of weakening my application, since it will be difficult for me to improve from where I scored on the two 'easier' section types. I also don't know if I can muster up the ambition to study RC intensively for two months in an effort to guarantee a section score increase. Also, I've increased my score from a diagnostic of 146 over the course of 10-11 months, so I'm a bit tired of the LSAT, if I'm being honest. As much as I want a 170+, I don't know if the potential rewards of a retake outweigh the risks.

What do you guys think? Should I retake or am I being too much of a Type A?

(Please don't misunderstand me: I really am proud of my score and I know that many would kill to have it.)

Hey everyone,

For those of you who used the LSAT Trainer in conjunction with the CC from 7Sage, what did you find most useful from the Trainer? Right now, I am in the process of fool proofing PT's 1-35 while reading through the Trainer. I am currently in the LG section of the Trainer and find that some of the stuff they are covering is contradictory to what I covered in the 7Sage curriculum when it comes to diagramming.

I was just wondering if there was a specific section of the LSAT that the Trainer is best for/if I can skip over the LG chapters etc...

Let me know your experiences!

I am done with my June LSAT and I'm waiting for my LSAT result but I am not sure what I should do till I start applying.

I am an international student from India and did my undergraduate in Pharmacy. My GPA is very low. I have worked at an NGO teaching kids for 2 years before this. Now i am wondering if i should continue working in the social sector which i really enjoy, or get some law related work experience. what would help more for my law school applications?

So I was chatting with this guy on a dating site... yeah this is really not LSAT related! lol I mentioned that I'm super cautious because some guys are only looking for sex. The guy got offended and stated that I shouldn't generalize because I didn't have numbers to prove that what I said was true. I told him that he was correct and I explained to him that for "some" there only needed to be one guy on the site that was only looking for sex so I was sure my statement was ok. He blocked me. Thanks 7 Sage!! Lmao

Hi everyone,

I am feeling deflated after getting a score MUCH lower than my PTs. Throughout May, I was getting in the 170s with a high of 176 (about 8 tests in a row total) but then yesterday I got my score back and it was 166, which is the lowest score I've gotten since December :(

I did have some extenuating circumstances which may have affected things (or it may be me making excuses, I just don't know): the last week of May I came down with the flu and was out for the count for a week. When I came back (and still wasn't feeling great) I was PTing in the high 160s (168/169). I tried to chalk it up to being sick. But to make things worse, 9 days before my LSAT i ended up in the ER with a really horrible eye infection and spent a good two days in bed with my eyes closed. I took another PT once i regained my sight and I got a 168.

That being said, I took some time off work and took two practice tests right before the exam and both were 172 so I was feeling confident going in.

Suffice it to say that I feel pretty deflated right now. I know my health was an issue in the month leading up to the test but because I did do well on the two tests right before and because I felt fairly good physically the day of, I thought I would be okay. I signed up for September, but my confidence has really taken a hit. I was wondering if anybody else has had this happen and if you have any words of wisdom for moving forward.

Hey all,

i am having trouble. I have been PT-ing for 4 weeks not, consistently scoring in upper 160's, but sometimes i dip down to low 160's. never lower then that, but I also have not broken 170 yet, i am just stuck in the 160's. i am upset because today I scored a 160, after scoring a 165 two nights before. My BR scores are ridiculously high, somewhere like 172-177 generally. I'm not sure what to do and getting ridiculously discouraged because of today's PT score. I do take breaks, I am healthy when it comes to studying so I know it's not my method. But, I posted before and someone said that I am missing those curve breaker questions so i started to slow down in my sections, but I find that i am scoring lower now? thoughts or suggestions on how to actually reach my BR score? or just stop yo-yoing with my score? I want to have a consistent PT average to accurately predict where I am going to score at on test day.

thanks!

Hi everyone,

I just signed up for the 3 month package a couple days ago, and I worked through the curriculum up until the point where it recommended taking a diagnostic. Having already taken June 2007 a few months ago, I took Pretest 35 instead. I scored a 165 with the following breakdown:

LR 22/26

RC 24/26

LG 13/23

LR 23/26

Clearly, I have a lot of work to do on logic games, but I also feel there's room for improvement on my logical reasoning score. Up until this point, I've taken a few tests over the past several months, but haven't committed to studying at all, so 7sage is my first exposure to structured curriculum. Realistically, if I follow the curriculum as prescribed by the study schedule generator, do I have time to get into the mid/high 170s before the September LSAT, or am I setting myself up for failure? I can delay until December if necessary, but it's important to me to crack into the 175ish range on test day.

If you started at a similar score and successfully made the improvement into the mid 170s, I'd love to hear your feedback and tips!

So I time all my problem sets at the standard per question time provided by the LSAT. Typically by the time I'm about halfway into the problem sets for any given question type, I'm getting most questions correct and finishing on time. I'm midway through the MBT/MBF problem sets and having a bit of trouble. My accuracy has increased substantially, I'm getting everything right, but I'm not hitting the timing on the harder problem sets (Problem Set 6 and above out of 9). How concerned should I be about this? Do I just continue to drill and BR until I'm hitting my goal times or should I re-do the lesson?

I sat for the June LSAT and scored very low. I'm not sure where to even begin, I do not know what the best strategy is anymore to approaching this exam. I don't want to give up but in need of serious help because all of what I'm doing is obviously not working.

Help?

Suggestions please?

How?

I have been going non-stop since May. I keep reading different suggestions about taking breaks and it helping your score but I just can not let myself do it. I don't want to look back come September and think I didn't do enough. I also really want to prove to myself that I am capable of achieving my goal. So any time I try to give myself a break I simply cannot let myself do it.

Does taking a break really help that much?

was just curious if anyone knows whether the last June LSAT (prep test 81 I believe?) will be available before the September LSAT for review?

First 179!!!!!!!! 180 is next lol

Hi all!

I just found this forum thanks to TLS forums. After much consideration and my 2016-2017 application cycle not turning out how I wanted, I have officially decided on a third retake. Previous scores: 150 (very little self-study) and 155 (Testmasters online course -didn't have time to finish and a tragic family death a week before my test date). My goal is to get into the 170's with the realistic reservation that high 160's would be great as well. With the extenuating circumstances around my previous test date and the way my cycle went, I felt I would be selling myself short without another retake.

In terms of my current study plan, I have been going back and forth on signing up for another course. While I did improve 5 points with Testmasters, I am not signing up for them again. I have been looking into 7sage (obviously) and into Blueprint. I also just purchased the LSAT Trainer and the 10 Actual Practice Tests 62-71 I already have. (I may still have the power score bibles as well, have to check...)

Overall, I am looking for guidance on if ANOTHER course is something everyone thinks is worth it? I just quit my job, so I can devote myself to full-time study, I am looking at a Sept/Oct test date and to re-apply this fall. Presently, my plan is to work through the LSAT Trainer and supplement with the free videos on 7sage... any guidance is appreciated.

Thoughts, ideas, am I missing something?

I took the DEC lsat and scored 146 (Used Blueprint LSAT course), Now I'm scoring around 155-160 on the practice exams. The questions I'm missing are stupid mistakes however. I always have it narrowed to two possible choices on LR and I'm choosing the incorrect one. My goal is to score 160+ on the Sept test. Any ideas on how I could resolve this issue?

Wondering if there are any particular threads that we should* read over to help us better structure our prep? Especially any threads started by (inactive or active) Sages and/or Mentors (or any 7Sage user for that matter).

*Absolutely must

Hey guys! We've got a fellow 7Sager who's PTing in the 170's and looking to 1) improve herself and 2) pay it forward to this awesome community. We suggested that she offer to tutor for free. Thing is she's pretty shy in the threads / comments so I'm making the announcement for her.

She wants to work with you to BR your LR or RC sections from your PTs. (There are a few PTs she hasn't taken yet so she will decline doing those—you can figure this out with her—but most PTs she's already completed.)

If you're interested, let me know by commenting here and I'll put her in touch with you.

It's a great opportunity!

Hey everyone,

7sage has the optional June 2007 LSAT listed in the syllabus, and was wondering if this should be taken timed or not timed?

Hi guys- just wanted some feedback on my scenario, as I recently decided against my entire plan and am leaning towards waiting until fall 2018 app cycle.

Originally, I intended on applying this fall after sitting this Dec. However, these last couple months have been riddled with work commitments, and a mil other things leading to much less time than I planned on studying.

Initially, I told myself to “power up” and just make these next 5 months the most productive EVER in order to sit in Dec hit my target (170+)… yeah, no. I have come to the conclusion that this may not be realistic with my current full time job and other obligations that I cannot step away from, nor would I really feel fully prepared. I am learning that this is not a journey that I can just put a fixed date on, as I always usually do with my non-LSAT goals.

Sooo… I’ve figured that it might just be best to wait on this. I hate postponing stuff, but successfully conquering this test is not something that will magically happen, unless serious time is put into my prep and I am not in a position to quit my full time job.

Has anyone else been in this position, or have any feedback on deciding to postpone apps til next cycle to take a year for substantial prep. When I I decided to take this test, I had no idea a year would be the length of my prep, but that is definitely becoming my scenario.

So I re-wrote the LSAT and my second time I got 162 in June... and my first test I got 157 in Sept 2016. My top preptest through my prep was 163, so I'm quite sure that I did a good job considering my prep average. However, that only puts me at the bottom of the waitlist in terms of stats/etc. for my goal school. There is a small chance I could get in, but likely not, and that worries me. If I got a 165 or a 166 I believe I would be in a way better position.

So I'm considering re-writing again, but I'm not sure what I should do differently this time to improve. I've been using some 7sage and Powerscore bibles and doing things completely on my own for about a year. After the first time I wrote, I realized places I could improve and focused on them for the re-write but I'm not sure what to do to get better at this point. Should I get a tutor? Should I try a different program? Should I keep working through it and realizing my mistakes even further?

To be honest though.... I'm not sure I can mentally/emotionally take another re-write right now, but I also feel like I don't have momentum to re-start later on (in life/in a year). I took a lot of time off of everything else to focus on studying this time around, and I honestly felt kind of depressed about my prep for a lot of it. I had ups and downs, but I'm not sure if at this point I should just let it be and maybe go to a lower quality school with the score I have. I just felt like I couldn't get the motivation up to actually battle the prep and do things almost everyday... like I often just felt like 'what is the point.. i'm never going to get the score I need' (even though I know that the lack of studying manifested that probably... ugh)

I'm not sure if anyone else faces this type of dilemma.... the only people in my life who can give me advice have no idea how brutal the LSAT really is and the competitive nature of law school apps... they just tell me 'you're really smart! I'm sure you'll get in! Great job!' and while that's really nice it hasn't helped... it quite honestly has made me feel more defeated that I can't get the score they're sure I'm capable of...

Any advice?

Hey everyone, I think I may have accidentally hidden a big part of the lessons for most/all students. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I wanted to put this up in case it's affecting anyone and they are wondering what's going on.

Sorry! Working on restoring access right now.

Edit: Lessons are definitely missing, figured out problem and working on solution. Will likely take several hours.

Edit: Fix is live and everything should be back to normal, please let us know if you notice anything amiss. Thanks for your patience!

I was in the middle of studying the Weaken section part of the Core Curriculum when all of a sudden I hit next and I get re-directed to the main page; when I go back to the course syllabus, some of the syllabus is missing and I lost my progress (went from 12 percent completion to 6 percent). I still have another year left before my 7SAGE subscription runs out. What's happening?

EDIT 1: Seems to be an issue for a majority of students; I wouldn't worry too much. 7SAGE staff are probably already working on a solution. Hold tight; grab a beverage and relax until the issue is resolved guys.

EDIT 2: Admin Dillon A. Wright confirmed the issue is prevalent and that the staff are working on it.