Hi 7sagers,

I just wrote preptest 72, and experienced a -6 drop from my score on preptests 70 and 71. Aside from this, I have been experiencing an upward trend, with a fairly consistent score of 170. The scores that have deviated from this in the past are explainable in terms of hunger, poor sleep, etc. - conditions I am learning to eliminate and work through if necessary. That being said, there is nothing obvious that I can point to to explain the drop on this test. I was having some issues with focus, but nothing out of the ordinary. I am conscious that it could be due to an upward trend in difficulty on the newer tests, and perhaps the fact that I have only written 16 tests in total, so my reaction is to want to push myself and write as many as I can before June 6th. However, I don't want to overdo it and write too many because I have heard that it is best to take it relatively easy in the weeks prior to test day. I need to score 170+ on test day, or else I will need to rewrite. Can anyone offer any insight on how I should approach these next two weeks?

Thanks in advance.

Hey guys—saw this on Imgur today. Thought it might be helpful for y'all. And kinda pretty.

So, the 15 minute break is a time we can either rest and recharge for the final push, or just as easily, it's a time we can let our anxiety fester and boil. Having a 15 minute break plan can help maximize its potential benefits while minimizing its detriments. Since June is just a stone's throw away, I thought I'd share my strategy and see what others do.

So first the easy part. The snack. I keep it simple and natural. I have a banana and a clif bar. Then I have 8 oz of green tea which I make by shaking tea powder in a water bottle. Simple enough.

And of course, use the restroom.

The mental and emotional game is much more difficult. It's of course easier said than done, but don't dwell on the three sections that are behind you. If you've had two reading sections and one LR, then sure, make a mental note that you know you've got LR and Games coming at you, but don't think about your performance. It's done and there is nothing to be gained by giving it any thought while there is still more to come.

The other test takers can create either a positive or negative atmosphere, so feel free to disengage if you're getting a negative vibe. What I've found most useful is to steer the conversation towards prep. This keeps my thinking away from the test and directs it towards my awesome prep which, for every 7Sager, should be a point of pride and confidence. I'll talk about my LG drill system, my top PT scores, 7Sage, all the best things I've done to get to test day. This keeps me calm, confident, and focused. That's what you want going back in.

I really wish we could step outside and get some fresh air and sunshine.

Anybody else have 15 minute break tips?

Hi guys,

I recently retook the PT 71, which I originally took on October of last year. On my first take, I got a 159 but I didnt BR that exam. On this recent take I got a 169. With the exception of having some problems seeming familiar, the questions still felt new to me and the Reading Comprehension section of this particular pt seemed just as hard as when I first took it. How much do I discount my score considering it was a retake? Can I still use this PT as a measure that my skills have since increased?

Hello all,

I will be enrolling in the Ultimate package program in the coming weeks. What I'm concerned about however, is how long most ppl normally take to get through the 7Sage program with substantive results? Is 16 weeks enough time or will I need more?

In addition, I already have a copy of the LSAT Trainer and seem to have observed that there is a consensus in favor of the LR methods taught therein. Is it recommended to substitute the Trainers LR method for 7sage?

Hi again,

This question has probably already been asked but, what books do you guys recommend for people preparing for law school and why? Thanks a bunch! :)

Hey 7Sage crew! So I'm in the process of fool proofing the games...finally. However, I was planning on taking a PT next week and joining the BR group. Even if I'm not ready to PT, I still want the experience. That and I'm just itching to take another PT. Naturally, I went through my old PTs to see how I was doing roughly 2 months ago. I noticed something odd on one of the PTs. On that particular PT, I had an initial score of 152. However, my BR score was a 170. I went through my other PTs and noticed the same trend!

So, I'd like to hear from the LSAT docs. What's your prognosis?

I did also notice that my weakest sections were RC and LG. I'm guessing this huge discrepancy was likely caused by my inability to complete the entire RC and LG section.

I’ve drilled and drilled LG for the past 7 months. I have done nearly 700 LG games, 50 timed sections and really battled to get my LG score close to that coveted -0 or -1. I have not taken any LG sections in the 70s (saving these) and in the last 2 weeks I finally hit -0 on three separate timed LG sections from the early 50s. I felt confident and even finished those sections within 31-33 minutes. My scores prior to achieving the 3 perfect sections hovered around -2 for 3 months. I thought everything was going well. I would take a timed LG section one day, then drill 10 games from the 1-35 PT sets the next day. Today I took PT 39’s LG section and scored an astonishing 11/23. For some perspective, I scored 12/23 untimed during my initial diagnostic last August… I am not necessarily shocked, because I didn’t feel the sense of being “in control” of the games in the PT 39 set, but cannot put my finger on why. Doing well on this test requires honesty with oneself. Eluding the truth about one’s weaknesses is of no virtue. 11/23 doesn’t define my abilities on LG, but points to something systemic that is terribly wrong. If I was really approaching true mastery of the games, I feel as though my "bad days" wouldn't be this terrible. My sense is that when a game doesn’t flow well or doesn’t fit some sort of pattern I have come across before, I stumble and make silly mistakes. Has anyone else experienced this? I take Saturdays and Sundays off completely, so I don’t attribute this to burnout, I wake up excited to prep and learn each day. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

-Thank You

Edit: spelling error

Hey all,

I'm very interested in joining the 7Sage prep course (possibly premuim but due to financial constraints, I think I'm leaning towards Starter) for the December 2016 LSAT but I noticed something that really bugged me - the video explanations for the 10 exams include 7 exams that are extremely difficult to obtain...I searched everywhere and the cheapest PT's I found were the ones posted here (almost $200!!!) I guess my question is: since I can't get 7/10 PT's, should I even bother with buying the prep course?? :(

I'm at the point where if I get any wrong with LGs, it's almost never due to a misunderstanding on the game itself - consistently -0 through -3.

Upon BR, I am 100% on LGs without question (and capable of easily showing it), but my problem is that with this section because it's as visibly deductive as it is, I have a lot of confidence as I go through so I don't have the same luxury of knowing which to spend extra time at the end checking like in RC and LR.

Does anyone have a good method for quickly checking correct answers or knowing which to check by their nature with time left over at the end of the game to minimize these types of mistakes - given that I'm always understanding the game itself quite well?

https://copyright.lib.utexas.edu/copypol2.html

The requirements could easily be met to satisfy Fair Use prerequisites.

Seems to me all we need to say is that we aren't taking the tests, but reviewing them for educational and learning objectives.

Hi guys! Sorry for the redundant post but a few weeks ago I saw pinned on here (maybe at the top?) a compiled list of recommendations on where to buy prep tests. I can't seem to find it now. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? Thanks!

Hello,

I am new to LSAT, but have a dream of being a lawyer. I have bought the LSAT Bibles, and will be buying the 7Sage starter program. I am just confused on where to start? I have read that people have used the Bibles and 7sage together? How? I am needing about a 10-15 point increase from my diagnostic. I will be sitting for the September test. Which approach should I use? Does 7Sage map out a study plan? I am sorry for all the questions, I am just a bit lost right now.

I know that the Logic Games Bundle doesn't appear anymore on 7sage but where can I go purchase them? Do I have to get LSATs 1-35 and do it that way?

Hi all

I searched the forum and turned up some posts about new problem sets from about a year ago, so my apologies if this question is answered elsewhere.

First, I was wondering if there was a way/would it be beneficial to know the supposed difficulty of problem sets before we take them. I understand that the difficulty increases from the first to last problem set of a section, but is it possible, for example, to know that problem set #3 out of 10 is on average a "medium" difficulty? I would like to be know that without having to open up the answer key. Or perhaps there is a reason we only see the relative difficulty after taking the set?

Second, how is the difficulty ranking in the question bank determined? I remember seeing something about it being the results from 7Sage members. How is that data gathered and is it a good indication of general difficulty?

Thanks!

How do you translate this rule...?

K is evaluated either at some time after M or at some time before T, but not both.

Thanks for the help!

Seeking others, close to175 range, to join our informal yet focused BR group..

I've been stuck in the 175-177 range for the past 15ish practice tests. Any advice on moving up to a 180? I've been getting anywhere from 0-3 wrong total LR and 0-3 wrong RC. Sometimes I get a 178-180 but it's infrequent because I keep getting a couple wrong in both LR and RC. Tips from others who've moved up to the 178-180 range? What helped you to improve on LR and RC? Thanks!

I am currently writing my Personal Statement for law schools and I keep receiving conflicting advice on the direction in which one should take for this essay. I hope the 7sage community can lend their advice. On one hand, some say it is imperative to mention in your PS why you want to go to law school, making this point the anchor of the essay. Others, whom I tend to agree with, emphasis that a PS should be an essay that tells admissions something that they would otherwise never know about you, something crucial perhaps in character development. I don't want to write some boring, vanilla-flavored essay that admissions has read a bajillion times, but rather write something that jumps off the page and is memorable. I suppose the two ideas I'm describing can be amalgamated...smh. Please help me, people..

So thankful for all of the Sages for their time hosting webinars sharing their experiences and wisdom with us. Please take advantage of this incredible resource!

It is remarkable that the webinar library has over 15 recordings for our viewing. As I was about to write a post referring to different webinars for someone that is in the early stages of time management, I realized that some people may not be aware of all the opportunities available - Under the “Discussion” menu is “Webinar Videos.”

Given everyone’s different stages of prep – following is a general breakdown of the webinars currently available.

LR

Necessary Assumption

Sufficient Assumption

Pseudo-Sufficient Assumption

Weaken & Strengthen

Flaw Intensive

When to diagram in LR – conditional stimulus

RC

Active Reading Strategies

Reading Comprehension Question Types

LG

Splitting the boards?

Overall Strategies

Blind Review process

Anticipating Answer Choices

Eliminating Attractor Answer Choices

Skip It! Skipping Strategies Panel

Global Strategies/Inspirational

My 18 Point Increase Story

LSAT Prep for 170+

Managing LSAT Stress and Anxiety

Have any of you found the older PT's helpful to take as in pre-2007? I have done the June 2007 and then PT's 62-70. I have the book for Pt's 52-61 then practice tests 75,76,77 and am ordering 72-74. I just wonder if its beneficial to get the older ones too or just stick with the ones I have ?

I postponed my test until September instead of taking the June one so I have time to study. I steadily increased in my score for the first 9 or so practice tests and made it all the way up to a 162. Now my last three scores respectively have been 156, 153, 153..... I don't know if its the stress or anxiety or what it is but I am now performing so much worse then before. The arguments section I usually am amazing at, and now I am getting so many wrong. Is this normal/what do I do about this?? Any advice for improving on the reading comprehension because that section I never seem to get better at.

What happened to the logical reasoning videos for these PTs? Why have they been removed?

Do y'all know what the deal is with glasses? I'm wearing glasses (just regular ones, not sunglasses) in my picture, but I don't plan on wearing them on test day.

Should I resubmit a picture without the glasses?

I usually finish all my sections in time. However, I rarely have enough time to check over my “starred” questions. The way how I skip is that if I feel that time is sinking, I choose one of the two or three answer choices left, after POE, and move on. I know that some people leave them blank, but I do not feel comfortable doing this. Normally, I star 5-7 questions per section, in which 3 - 4 questions end up being the right answer choices.

Recently, I watched Allison’s webinar on hitting 170+, and she talked about pushing yourself to allow at least 5 minutes at the end of a section (she was mainly talking about LR, but I feel that this could apply to RC as well) to go over the circled questions.

How does one go about doing this?

Thank you in advance!