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A throwaway account to stay anonymous. I want to thank @"J.Y. Ping" @"Jonathan Wang" @"Alan Cheuk" @"Dillon A. Wright" also all 7Sagers I was in touch with in the past year and a half. As an ESL person, my road was extra rough. I hated the LSAT, and I still hate it. So without all your help and encouragement, I wouldn't be where I am today.
In a year and a half, I have improved more than 20 points (yes it is doable), 138 to 162 (Feb write). So many things suffered in my life, but I did it guys :) I studied almost every day, and the road was very bumpy. I did the LSAT twice, December, where I was screwed up by the third game and February where I did better. I was the type of people who wanted -0 in games (obviously, an ESL person), so when I don't do well in games my other sections suffer. The rule was always not to let previous questions affect your upcoming ones, but I couldn't follow that :) So I didn't do well in December.
I would be lying if I say 7Sage was my only prep material, but it was the only course I took. It provided me with the foundation and the mindset. Most of my improvement was through it. I also used The Trainer, PowerScore LR, and another random book which is not one of the known ones. Trust me, I even read LSAT for Dummies. My LG was solely through 7Sage. My PowerScore LG is untouched. Frankly speaking, I even skipped LG in The Trainer.
Here is the good news. I received an admission to my top-choice school, Osgoode, in Canada, and I am beyond thrilled.
Cheers to all of you,
P.S. @"Dillon A. Wright" You have a great customer service. Thank you for freezing my account. I will message you shortly from my real account to unfreeze it and let it rest in peace :)
With 30 days left to test day, can anyone pls give me advice on how I can best prepare myself within the next month to enter test day in the best shape possible? Talking about in terms of eating habits, sleep schedule, avoiding stress, etc. I remember there being a post about this, but I couldn't find it.
Since my first diagnostic I've done respectably on RC and LR pretty consistently, generally -0 to -4 (-2 most common result on LR, -1 most common on RC). There's absolutely room for improvement, but I feel like I'm doing respectably well.
My LG scores, on the other hand, are an absolute train wreck. I don't think I've ever made it through the entire LG section under timed conditions. Under timed conditions I generally get -10 or even worse. It's an absolute disaster.
Outside of timed conditions I can generally work my way through every game without too much brain damage. Without a timer I rarely miss any LG questions.
I've completed the curriculum. I've done most of the problem sets, I've done all of the LG from about 2/3 of the tests using @Pacifico's fool proofing method. In recent weeks I've preceded the fool proofing with a timed drill of the section and then proceeded on to fool proofing each game individually.
I'm signed up for the June test. I am consistently scoring between 164 and 167 on my PTs (blind reviews now consistently above 175). My goal would be to break 170 on test day.
At this point my calculation is that the best use of my time is increasing my efficiency on LG. I appreciate the value of PTs. I also recognize that I have room for improvement in each section. It seems, though, that further improving LR and RC would demand a great deal of time. Even if I did so, I would still only give me an outside shot at 170 given my poor LG performance.
It seems to me that LG offers the lowest hanging fruit and the greatest potential for improvement.
My tentative plan, then, is to stop doing PTs (or at least cut from two per week to one) and instead just drill the heck out of LGs.
What do you think? Is it madness to consider abandoning PTs? Should I scale back on them and beef up my LG drills? Should I carry on as I have been?
How do you negate "not many"?
To me, you can't just dropped the "not". Here's my thought process:
"Not many" seems to be the same as "some not."
"Not many people like apple" = "Some people do not like apple."
The negation of "some people do not like apple" is "everyone likes apple," and this is very different from "many people like apple" (dropping the not in "not many").
So you can't just drop the "not" in front of "many" to negate "not many." Am I right?
Really struggling with this question: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/literature-departments-responsibility-na-question/?ss_completed_lesson=1785
I did eliminate A, B, C and D for reasons given by JY, but I cannot bring myself to see that E is a necessary assumption.
Wigmore doesn't give us any opinion on advertisements being "true literary works." He does not concede the point. He merely says, whatever, I don't know about ads.
Please share your thoughts.
In E we get that the literature department’s responsibility is not limited to teaching students how to analyze true literary works.
The negation test gets us to "lit dept. IS limited to teaching analysis of true literary works."
Why does Wigmore's argument suffer from that negation? He left open the possibility that, hey, maybe these ads ARE true literary works.
I get that in the case of ads NOT being true literary works, this is a necessary assumption because the dept. would need to teach things other than true literary works to include ads. But this does not have to be the case as we have no definite decision on whether ads are true literary works or not.
It seems that because Wigmore leaves open the possibility of ads being true lit works or not being true lit works that in the case of ads being true lit works then E has no impact and in the case of ads not being true lit works E is necessary.
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EDIT: Ok, starting to click perhaps. If Wigmore argues from a position of expressing no opinion about ads' position as literary works, he had better leave open the possibility that his conclusion can be drawn from either situation. In that case, when Ads are not true literary works, he had better think that the department can still teach them. Such an assumption operating on the case when ads are true lit works doesn't do squat for the argument, but that is exactly how necessary assumptions work; the don't really help, but they can damage. Here we had to check for two possibilities because the choice specifically mentioned a variable element in the stimulus.
So, I guess my question to the 7sage community is this: is there any merit in doing questions 1-10, then skipping to questions 20-25 before attacking the middle questions, 11-19? I have taken multiple practice tests and seem to notice that towards the end of LR sections there are many "toss up" questions. Unfortunately, I find myself with barely enough time to answer these easy questions because questions 11-19 have eaten up a lot of my time. Is this an advisable LR strategy?? Would love some feedback. Hope everyone's studying is going well.
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why is this showing as locked for me when i have Ultimate+? PT0A S2 P1 there are a few others showing locked as well
So on my last PT I scored a 180, on both the simulated PT and the BR! It’s been kind of surreal since, but I hope to come back down any minute now! I know I still have a lot of work to do, and my PT average is, of course, much lower than 180; but I wanted to share for several reasons.
First, high fives!! And I already had a bottle of champagne to celebrate!
Secondly, and arguably more importantly; if I can do it, I firmly believe this test is conquerable by just about anyone. I graduated 63rd out of about 350 in my class from high school and finished my undergrad with a 3.64 GPA from The University of Southern Mississippi. I spent the last 8 years managing and consulting with small independent cafes, restaurants, and catering companies. Not to put down my experience, I owe a lot to the quality of my education and the lessons learned through work; but my point is that I’ve never been an exceptional student or done big, great things. I’m just kind of a regular guy. And if some random, regular dude can do it; then any random, regular dude/dudette can do it. You can do it. Whoever you are, whatever your background or situation; I genuinely believe you have every capacity to 180 this test. And I’m sharing because I hope my story can help you to believe it too.
I think this probably goes without saying, but this seems like a good time to thank the entire 7Sage team and community. The LSAT has been a long, painful process for me. I started studying about a year ago with a target score of 173. I scored a 163 in Oct. 2015 and then a 162 in Dec. 2015. After the Dec scores came back I was really bitter for a long time. I decided I could either quit altogether, temper my goals, or delay a year and redouble my efforts for my final take. I chose to quit altogether. Well, obviously that didn’t stick, and after a few months of pouting, I picked myself up. Having discovered 7Sage through the LG videos on youtube (isn’t that how we all find our way here?), I signed up having decided that if I was going to prepare for the LSAT right, this is where I needed to be. I abandoned everything I had learned to date and started over with the 7Sage curriculum. The 7Sage teaching methods are, of course, incredibly effective; and I began building my LSAT knowledge on a much more solid foundation. I also got involved and stayed involved on the forums. Before 7Sage, I felt very much alone in this. I’d go to my friends; but as we all know, people on the outside just can’t understand or empathize with what we’re going through, much less advise us. I’ve learned so much practical knowledge from you guys, but it’s the collective support of this group that really makes it a special place; and I know I wouldn’t have made it so far without this community.
Thanks, and I love you guys!
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What does everyone think about study time at this point? Obviously I know there's a big difference between quantity vs quality, I just really want to make the best use of these next two weeks knowing that I'll need to taper down during the last two weeks or so.
At this point, drilling timed sections/good BR between my PTs seems to be the most effective use of time..but I could be wrong here because 4 timed sections might as well be a PT. I know burnout is deadly (October '15 me could tell you all about it), but I want to squeeze out my last bit of progress in these next 2 weeks and leave it all out on the field.
What are the best strategies in these next 2 weeks to potentially get those last few points of improvement- Timed sections? Just PTs and super thorough BR? or Isolating any identifiable weak spots?
Thanks in advance for any advice or perspectives!
My target score for June is simply a 160-162, which I am fairly confident I can attain. I've taken nearly 10 PTs now and my scores are hovering between the 157-159 range, with one reaching 161. My schedule is as follows: PT usually on a Wednesday or Thursday and then BR until the next one, which is either on Sunday or the next following Wednesday or Thursday.
I just want to know if this is a solid schedule. I feel fairly confident in my abilities, and have seen my scores increase gradually, even after a couple lower scores (155, etc.). However, I do sometimes wonder if I could be doing something different. Actually not even IF I could be doing something different, but WHAT I could be doing.
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Trying to find a good law school.
Hi everyone.
I'm trying to figure out what the best way to drill is. I'm working my way through the course and I am thinking that I should be drilling as i go through it rather than waiting until the course is finished. I only got the starter class. Is it worth upgrading so that I have more practice material?. I have almost all of the pts, but I was under the impression that I should save as many as possible. My main question is that now that Cambridge isn't selling their drilling packets (at least that is what I've heard) is there something comparable?
Thanks for the help
I confirmed today what I had feared for the past couple of months - the test center I am registered for in June typically administers the exam in an auditorium with flip up desks. I visited the room today and the desks that flip up are TINY; to add insult to injury I was show the room that's occasionally used for overflow, and or accommodations, and it was perfect, with built-in desks and everything else you could ever want. The deadline for test center changes is within the next week, so I'm trying to decide what is the best thing to do, and I would appreciate any feedback others have on this issue.
The benefits for staying at my current test center are:
1. It's at the law school where I go to undergrad and is within walking distance from my house;
2. I usually study and do PTs in said law school's library, so I'm comfortable with the building in general;
3. Despite the TINY desks I can PT for the next month in that classroom and try to get used to keeping the answer sheet in my lap or something.
There are a few other test centers within an hour's drive, but they are all at similarly large state schools and based on what I've seen, they all have hit or miss desk situations. However, there is a small liberal-arts college a couple hours away with openings for this June's test date; I've only seen one review for the school, but it was positive. I'm also thinking that at a school of <2700 students that they probably don't even have a lecture hall that's designed for maximum occupancy. If I were to change the test location to that test center I would drive over on Sunday and stay the night in-town before Monday's test. I might also try to visit in late-May and take a PT in the actual room if it can be worked out logistically.
I'm going to take PT72 in the next few days, before the Group BR, and if the room is open I'm going to take it in the auditorium of my current test center. I've typically just printed my PTs on one-sided sheets, but given the desk-size constraint I would like to try to replicate the booklet layout. Obviously I want to print the PT double-sided, but what's the best way to bind it like the booklet?
Hello, I was going through JY's list of common flaws, and under the flaw "experiments to reach a general conclusion" he talks about how with experiments to reach a general conclusion you must include a control group, and a baseline. Could someone give me an example of a "baseline" ?
Thank you so much !!
Hey 7Sagers, Nicole's back from her long tutoring hiatus! Hooray! Many of you have interacted with her here in the Discussion Forums, via the numerous Webinars, and the BR Calls so you know how great she is.
Nicole received a 170 on the February 2016 LSAT and will be attending Northwestern in the fall. Her rate's $50/hour. PM her here if interested!
I was interested in the idea of going into "survival mode" when you've fasted for at least 12 hours, and trying to write a PT first thing in the morning, 6:15 am, with nothing in my system but some coffee and H2O.
Safe to say it wasn't wise...
Learned some valuable lessons about how to avoid sloppy mistakes and ALWAYS bubble in "C" when I don't know and have chosen to move on.
A big -7 RC (tied for worst ever aside from diagnostic) ruined my -9 total LR and -0 LG for a 165. But, the key is to keep moving forward. BR was only a 167 and I've since eliminated the reasoning that made me change a handful of correct answers to wrong ones.
Hey everyone! I just have a quick question that maybe someone can help me with. I want to review and go over a lesson that talks about a certain subject matter; is there a way to search within the course syllabus that would bring me to the search-input, directly? For my particular case, I'm reviewing flaw/weakening questions, and I wanted to search for the lesson that mentions the term "takes for granted."
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
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I've been stuck in the 166-171 range for 8 months or so now, and do retakes in the 174-176 range.
I typically miss 2-4 in LR, and 0-3 in games.
However, my RC is all over the place. There have been times where I've gone -0, and others (like most recently) where I've missed as many as 8 or 9.
I started doing the Puzzle Theory (piecing all of the answers together), and writing a brief statement summarizing each paragraph. These helped initially, but not as much anymore.
I also understand that all of the answers are in the passage, but I'm finding the answer choices so convoluted that I can't find them. With that said, I typically finish RC with a few minutes of extra time.
How do I properly review RC? What can I do to get better?
I haven't had it easy to say the least. Without delving into my life story, I'll just sum it up to, my goal is law school. I'm trying really hard. I am 3 semesters shy of completing undergrad. I am retaking the LSAT this September. My first score was below 150. I anticipate my GPA being right at or just right below a 3.0. With that being said.. I actually have a few F's on my transcript, but I did retake those courses and replaced the F's. But I know they are still "there" although the GPA was recalculated, the failing grades are still in existence. I'm just wondering am I completely doomed with these F's on my transcript.. or what? I read (too much) on the internet, and other sites and forums, and some people say that the schools / LSAC rarely even take into account the personal statement or hardships, etc. (I'm doing pretty well considering circumstances)... *sigh* I do not want to give up, but if it's nearly not even possible then.. I would hate to have wasted time and money. Guess I'm feeling discouraged.. but don't encourage me just because. Honest, blunt opinions please!
Hey guys,
Say you are working through a preptest and half way through the questions of a Reading Comprehension passage or a logic game, you realize that you misread a rule or mis-interpreted the main point or a key view of the passage. How would you go about mitigating errors while still maintaining a good pace to finish the passage and logic game on time and accurately?
So I was averaging -5 total in LR on the 50s and 60s but when I started taking some of the 70s (70,71,72) it went up to -9 total. And usually one of the sections will be a lot easier where I'll go -2, and then I'll bomb the other one with like a -7. I've tried reviewing these questions in depth and I noticed several things:
1) the LR stimuli are longer
2) answer choices are harder to comprehend,eliminate
3) NA questions are not as tight as they once were (check out the LR question in PT71 section 1 on predatory pricing and you'll see what I mean).
4) Lots of annoying principle/strengthen questions that are really time-consuming.
Perhaps it may take some time getting used to, but after taking PT72 LR#2 I had to vent since I found this section to be insanely difficult. And with the circular game, this PT is an absolute killer.
Has anyone noticed any other trends in the 70s LR? Or does anyone have any advice on how to tackle/approach these different questions? Thanks!!
My question is assuming a candidate has hit the median GPA and median LSAT score for the top 5 law schools in the US, do they need additional experience/achievements like leadership positions, research, volunteer experience to have a shot at these law schools or is the LSAT score and GPA the main determining factors?


