Hi 7sage community! I'd like some advice before I hire a tutor to help me achieve a higher lsat score. I am not opposed to spending the money, but I would just like to hear any input sages or mentors or anyone else has to offer before.

I started seriously studying in May, 2016. My first PT was a 155. Since then my best has been a 162. My RC has always been strong but I still get anywhere from 3 to 6 wrong. I have made tremendous progress in Logic games. I'm definitely proud of that. I can solve basically any game. The problem is timing. Lastly, LR is hit or miss for me. I have also improved my comprehension and the ability to zero in on what the argument is and what its support is. However, my timing is off. Recently, I've been trying to do the first 10 questions in 10 minutes. I've also been marking obviously wrong answers much quicker and spending less time reading all the answer choices in depth.

However, I am worried. I am registered for December but have absolutely no problem with postponing until February. I work full-time but I am motivated and committed. When I made that first jump, I was happy but I'm eager now to see another big improvement soon, hopefully into the late 160s.

I have 23 PTs left. When I started out I did not have a plan to use my resources as most efficiently as possible. But now I am much more cognizant of those resources. So I've been spending time drilling the the PTs under 38.

I finished the 7sage curriculum and I'm just not sure where to go from here. I liked that there was a schedule. I think another schedule might help but I think I also need strategy in order to create that schedule.

Any thoughts? I know Nicole Hopkins says she is particularly good at these organizational skills. Anyone else in this position?

I don't want to "waste" ANY PTs and I do want to score above 170. I believe I can but I'm lacking strategy.

Thoughts?

Hi! We're all obviously very heavily invested in our PS's and I thought it would be extremely useful to have semi-anonymous feedback from each other. Would anyone be interested in swapping and reviewing?

Also, if anyone has any knowledge on this, are there any differences in what different law schools look for in the PS?

Hi all,

Have anyone experienced a significant drop in your RC scores from PT 60s to 70s?

Do you think RC passages in 70s are harder than those in 60s?

Hey guys!

I really want to upgrade today and get back into the grind, but I'm confused about what the Ultimate+ package includes-- are the lesson materials all printed out? On the purchase screen it says I need to purchase preptests on my own, which I am fine with, but do I need those preptests to start today / get into the grind of the lessons? Thanks!

Hello I have been following the blind review method and studying for 4 months (post-completion of CC) and I have been progressively getting worse at LGs. I am trying to really stay positive but I am not only taking so much longer to solve questions I am getting so many wrong. I had seen improvements all along but now, no matter what question I solve, I fail miserably. Anyone have any advice to get out of this rut!?

I would really appreciate any tips or expereiences!

thank you :)

A lot people say after studying for a while they have those "click" experience...

After how many PTs/questions/months you studied? When did this experience happen?

I wonder how it feels...I also see someone said they "smell" which answer is right/wrong.

How can people do this? By just seeing the question stem??

Thanks

If I purchase the stater course, can I upgrade to the next level for the cost of the difference? If I can upgrade, will the difference of extended duration be added to my existing duration?

Ideally I would like to purchase the stater course, work my way through the material and then upgrade and repeat.

Hey guys, any tips on balancing these three tasks? Am I the only one who has a difficult time balancing and prioritizing?

For me, it's being able to do something I've wanted to do since I was 5 years old

Which PTs should I use to study for December? I've only done 12, and December is a rewrite for me, so I've pretty much finished studying, and I want to focus as much as I can on PTs and improving my weaknesses. Also, which order should I do the PTs in, and how many per week from now until December? My ideal score is a 155-157, so you guys don't need to worry about where I'm at in terms of PTing (in case anyone was suggesting to postpone), I tend to get around that score fairly consistently, but there are random times (3 times) where I get like a 152-154. I'm also pretty much ALWAYS going -12 to -14 on RC, how can I improve this in 2 months time? Would you guys suggest trying to implement the Memory Method? I'm kinda stumped.

PTs Completed:

36

41

52

53

54

55

56

58

63

67

70

71

Hi,

For those who are in any 7sage courses, do you listen to all of his PT explanations?

(I mean PT you have done)

Or just questions you were not sure or got wrong?

I'm just wondering how other people use the explanations and resources.

Thanks!

Excuse me while I vent and ask for encouragement.

During my diagnostic, I did fairly well on LR and RC and totally failed LG (70-80% correct on LR and RC and 27% on LG...) 4 months later... I'm really not fairing that much better with LG. I've completed the CC months ago, have been employing the method that many of us use, trying to go through every LG and keeping track of my time on a spreadsheet. I felt like I was getting a lot better and recently during a full PT I completed 3 games with almost all questions correct and I got through about half of the last game. However, on my most recent PT, I just completely failed LG, doing hardly any better than my diagnostic (although I greatly improved on my LR and RC scores).

Anyway, I don't really know what I'm asking for. I know what to do. I'm going to revisit the CC and keep trying to get through all of the LG before test day (Dec). I guess I'm just hoping others have had a similar experience and could offer encouragement that they eventually had a moment when it "clicked". I just don't understand why I'm not getting any better. I understand the foundations. I follow JY when watching the videos. It's just that when I'm confronted with some variation that I haven't seen before, I totally freak and want to give up.

The Mobile site and App was not working for me this morning on two different iOS devices. Anyone else have this issue?

So I have an option to go to a law school in around 18--30 range ranking. I also have an option to take a year off and study more for lsat. Is 18-30 a bad return on investment? Reallu tough decision for me here

I was hoping to get some advice from those of you who have been studying for a while.

I recently finished the CC and have done 2 PTs. I see LG as a major area of opportunity as I consistently do not get to 1-2 games. I saw on the boards that many people recommend full proofing games 1-34 so I've started doing these as timed sections. I've gone through 2 timed sections, alongside the 2 from the recent PTs.

I have not finished any timed sections but I do, of course, finish them during my BR. I don't have accuracy issues as I expect is normal once a game "clicks". I then like to do the section again (sometimes directly after, other times after several hours or the next day) and I have found that I am able to finish with 5-10+ minutes to spare. Next, I check JY's videos - for these past sections, my strategy and timing line up with his recommendations.

Should I still be printing the games from the recent sections out 10 times if I'm able to move through them with confidence on R2? During the CC I full proofed any games that I struggled with but those generally did not come to me in R2 and I did not hit the recommended timing. I'm taking the December test and want to use my time as wisely as possible (I can't believe how close it is!).

Separately, I'm considering taking a video of myself doing the sections. I suspect that I spend a lot of time understanding the game layout. For more complex games, I often have to re-read the set up that comes before the rules several times to understand what is being asked of me and how the game pieces interact. Unfortunately, I already know these things when I re-take the sections so I can't push myself further here. How have others overcome this?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

I'm starting to retake some of the tests that I took a few months ago and already entered into the 7sage analytics feature...is there a way to enter the answers I have for retakes into 7sage without deleting the information from a few months ago? I figure it could be helpful to compare the two...thanks!

Mine is for sure PT69.S1.Q14

The test writers really outdid themselves with this one. For some reason this concept is just really interesting to me (the flaw). Perhaps how properties of two things when taken independent of each other can be different when you combine them together.

This relationship is easy to see when you have different color paint etc but in LSAT world I found it super interesting.

Spent 30 minutes trying to understand what was wrong yet still could not understand the flaw until I looked.

Hello Everyone! I am new here. I am from Pakistan and applying for fall 2017 at Northwestern University! There's no LSAT group studying or coaching provided in my country :( I have a full time job right now, I am Assistant Manager Legal for a company in the energy sector. I am going to take the December LSAT. My husband is in Chicago and I'll be moving to the US next year (just waiting on my immigration visa) sooooooooooooo basically i'm REALLY nervous and just wanted to introduce myself and get some help from you guys! is anyone opting for the 2 yr JD program at northwestern? what are your thoughts on it? and is two months enough for a good LSAT score? (i understand there's not really a yes or no for this question!) sorry if i am all over the place!

I have never blind reviewed a test. I just review the questions I miss or am unsure about. What are the benefits to the blind-review method?

Hi guys,

I'm debating on whether to take the December or February LSAT. I feel like I'm not going to be fully ready to get my maximum score but, I'm nervous to be applying too late because I would like to be enrolled in law school by Fall 2017.

Going to give myself some perspective by listing all the things harder the LSAT. I need a reminder that this test is not the end-all-be-all, that more difficult tasks exist. So if you're getting some June 10th anxiety, feel free to add to the list. If there was ever such a thing as an off-topic LSAT discussion, this would definitely be it.

Things Harder Than the LSAT

the MCAT

law school

the bar exam

finding a job after law school

being the first in your family to hold a post-graduate degree

paying back your loans

curing cancer

nuclear physics

finding the Higgs Boson subatomic particle

putting a man on the moon

This is getting silly but is still extremely therapeutic.

Hi guys,

I'm looking to apply this season, and am having some difficulty deciding how to proceed the LOR process. I graduated in 2015 and already have 2 professors whom I've worked closely with agree to write LORs, but am considering asking for a third recommendation from my place of employment (I've been working as a paralegal at a law firm for the past year and a half).

A couple of questions on this since time is running out:

1. Would it look bad if I didn't obtain a letter of recommendation from my place of employment? I know schools prefer academic recommendations, but I feel like it might be a little sketchy to have worked a year and a half and not have a letter. I think I could get a nice letter, but am not positive that it will be as strong as my academic letters.

2. Does ranking matter a whole lot in deciding which associate(s) I ask? I'm deciding between a more junior associate and a mid-level associate. I've worked extensively with both, but I feel like the junior associate might write the better letter. I was told that law schools might view the junior associate's letter as more of a letter from a "peer" though. Is this true?

3. If a school limits submission of LOR to 2, should I submit the two academic ones, or one academic one professional?

Any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you!

Hey guys, I'm doing an LSAT webinar for an MSU Law School event next Wednesday.

To prepare, I thought I'd do a dry run here. If you've studied for say more than a month, then this is going to bore your face off. Like the title says, this is "Intro to LSAT".

But, in case you're here and just happen to be getting started with the LSAT, you might find this helpful.

Details below. I fully expect attendance to be low and that's fine. Like, if no one shows up, I'm going to have fun talking to myself for 45 minutes. Honestly, that's what I do for hours and hours every day anyway. There will be a Q&A at the end of the session.

Mon, Oct 3, 2016 4:30 PM - 5:15 PM PDT

(That's 7:30pm - 8:15pm EST)

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/625718861

You can also dial in using your phone.

United States +1 (571) 317-3122

Access Code: 625-718-861

Hey Guys,

I seem to have a dilemma. I cannot Blind Review. Well, I CAN Blind Review, I just can't bring myself to do it. As I'm going through the curriculum I'm doing section worth of LR questions (about 25 questions) on the video set I just watched. I recently finished the MSS video set and then did about 25 MSS questions. First timed, and then I tried BRing. HOWEVER, I LEGIT GET SO LAZY AND SO IMPATIENT WITH FINDING MY SCORE THAT I DON'T FOCUS OR EFFECTIVELY BR.

Are there ANY tips on how to force myself to BR properly. I may try doing less questions - maybe that will help. Any advice would be greatly appreciated because I know I'm losing out on valuable points by BRing like a chump. I'm not sure if I need motivation, or a better strategy or whatever.

Thank you,

Hey guys,

I'm currently working through the CC and I plan on finishing by October 24th. From then onwards I plan on doing 2 PTs a week (from 70 and up) until my December 3rd test day.

I've been studying since June and prior to starting with 7 Sage I took a KRAPLAN course and took about 15 PTs, in the lower numbers. Do you think those 8 or so PTs after October 24th will be sufficient?

Also, if I should aim to finish earlier, any idea on what I can skip in the CC? Thanks!