Hello all, I hope September went well for all the LSAT test takers out there. I have been having a bit of a "mindset" issue lately if you will. As for everybody, studying for the LSAT is accompanied by highs and lows within the study process. I have been pretty good at keeping a positive mindset but lately whenever I think of the big picture as a whole and where I want to be and where I am at now I start to question whether I have what it takes and if I really CAN pull it off and I guess my question is how do you guys keep a positive mindset? I find it a lot easier to study when I am positive but lately it's been pretty easy to doubt myself and if I can even make it. Any tips or suggestions would really be appreciated. Anything at all.

So they have those superprep I and II...I read some of their explanations but wonder whether I should read all of them.

Do you think they are helpful in knowing how they design the questions and what their thought process is?

(How they get to the correct answers etc.)

Thanks!

Proctors: Three (very professional and quiet) proctors per room.

Facilities: Right across from the testing room, lots of stalls, clean, and they all have water fountains next to them.

What kind of room: Very large, the center is in a lecture hall. We had those long desks that were very spacious. I’m a desk hog and love my space, so this left me at ease.

How many in the room: There’s like 5 rooms of students, each room had approx. 25 students. It didn’t bother me though because these halls are meant to fit 150-200 students.

Left-handed accommodation: I would assume so since the desks weren’t individualized.

Noise levels: silent, few coughs. practically felt like I was using the 7sage proctor app (shameless advertising lol)

Parking: Very convenient and what I mean by that is the lot is huge and walking distance to the center is 3-5 minutes.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 20 minutes driving; barely any traffic.

Irregularities or mishaps: One girl had her cell phone and the proctor just told her to turn it off and keep it in her pocket lol. Another time the proctor gave us the 5 minute warning at the wrong time, and because of this I think she may have given us 45-60 seconds extra. Wouldn’t know, I didn’t use an analog watch at the time smh.

Other comments: This center is my alma mater and I’ve taken courses in the building where the LSAT is administered in.Needless to say that’s what makes it very comforting for me and that’s where I do timed PTs to imitate test day conditions. I also appreciate that there’s like 5 vending machines for drinks, quick breakfasts and snacks and a mini lounge area to chill in before taking the LSAT.

Would you take the test here again? For sure.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sept 2014, Feb 2016, TBD.

Proctors: Experienced professionals. Absolutely silent during test.

Facilities: Fine, it's an older building but restrooms were clean, close, and large enough to accommodate everyone. Proctors asked us about room temperature before test and after returning from break and adjusted according to our feedback. Test room big and spacious with lots of light and nothing to distract.

What kind of room: Big amphitheater layout.

How many in the room:10 - 20

Desks: Very large desks running the length of the room. More space than you could ever use. I probably had about 10 yards of desk space all to myself. Comfortable chairs and lots of room between test takers.

Left-handed accommodation: I'm not entirely sure what this means, but each test taker had so much space on either side that I can't imagine that any further accommodation would be possible.

Noise levels: Silent.

Parking: Plenty of parking immediately in front of building, except Oct 2015 when there was a football game that day. Always check the football schedule at any university with a team if testing in the fall. As far as that went, there was adequate parking about 5-10 minutes walk from the test center, which was kind of nice actually.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Pretty quick, about 30-40 minutes maybe.

Irregularities or mishaps: Across 3 takes, they forgot the five minute warning once. It happens: They got 17/18, so that seems within an acceptable margin of error to me. They also let one guy go to the bathroom between checking in and the test starting. Seems perfectly reasonable to me, but technically a violation. On my last take they said to put our pencil sharpeners away, lol. She said she didn't want us wasting time on sharpening pencils (which I agree with, you shouldn't do), but technically we are allowed to have our sharpeners on our desk. They had brought lots of sharpened pencils for us and made sure everyone without lots of pencils of their own had enough that they would not need to sharpen. Kind of sweet actually, but I would have liked to have my pencil sharpener just out of a sense of comfort.

Other comments: This is my alma mater which gave me a huge sense of familiarity. I felt right at home and I think this is a significant factor in choosing a test center. I'd only rank it below big desks and good proctors. There's enough test day stress without having to figure out where you're going. If your alma mater isn't an option though, or if the facilities aren't adequate, you can't go wrong with Southern Miss.

Would you take the test here again?

Absolutely.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

Oct 2015

Dec 2015

Sept 2016

JUNE 2016

Proctors: One was a nice professor. He was strict but not intense. He had a somewhat calming presence and an accent. The second proctor (she mainly floated around the room, didn't read aloud) made many noises throughout the test, ate very loudly while we were working.

Facilities: Huge building with lots of parking. Inside is very clean and there are restrooms everywhere. Also, there are vending machines and couches, which was nice during the break. There's a Dunkin Donuts at the entrance, as well. The building is a little bit like a maze, but all staff is friendly and helpful.

What kind of room: Standard high school classroom but with large desks.

How many in the room: 4 people. I heard there were others with around 10, though. Each classroom had about 35 desks, so we were pretty spread out

Desks: Really big but attached to the chairs, which was annoying.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: My room was directly across from the public safety desk, so we heard walkie talkies BLEEPing the whole time.

Parking: There is a large parking garage directly next to the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 5 hours including waiting in line but not sure

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: I chose to drive home from college (5ish hours) to take it here again! Had an even better experience my second time.

Would you take the test here again? Yes, and I did.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 6, 2016

Hey everyone, my scores on practice exams have been going down :/ I'm still early in my prep and I know I have enough time between now and December to improve big time, but yeah it don't feel too good when your average scores seem to be going down.

Anyway, my question is does anybody have a review process for practice exams that helped them improve on their weak points? What I mean is for example, what I currently do is go over all the questions I got wrong in LR, make note of the type and numbers of each type I got wrong, then revisit the corresponding lessons. That and also the 7sage method for LG (which is my weakest section it seems).

I thought maybe switching over to a different review strategy would be beneficial, since like I said my scores have been going down. So if anybody minds sharing their review process I'd really appreciate it. Or if you have any suggestions to improve the one I wrote about above that'd be awesome too.

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I always thought Sep Lsat was the last chance for anyone applying for the 2017 fall. But discussions here seem to suggest that I can still take Dec one and use that score?? Does that mean I'll be the last round of applicants and have a low shot of getting accepted by the admission board?

Thanks for your help!

Hi everyone! I'm planning on taking the LSAT for the first time this December, and really am hoping to make that my one shot. I have been studying on and off (but mostly on) since February, using The LSAT Trainer and the various Powerscore Bibles + Workbooks, and I took many, many practice tests as well without blind reviewing them. Obviously, I now know from 7Sage that I shouldn't have done the last part. So, I'm fully familiar with the various types of LR problems, and am pretty good on the types of games. 7Sage is supplementing my preexisting knowledge of the LSAT.

My question is, for those of you who studied a lot using other methods/materials and varying schedules before starting 7Sage, how did you adjust to the new schedule? Are there specific sections or methods that 7Sage does best that you'd recommend focusing on? I'm worried because I just started the 7Sage course and while the lessons are useful, I feel like I'm not going to make any progress if I just watch the videos, especially given that the test is not that far away. I also feel worried not doing full timed practice problem sets, which are obviously one of the best ways to improve.

I am thinking of studying with 7Sage videos on my weak areas (games, specific types of LR problems, etc.) and using the Manhattan LSAT to drill problems by type, in addition to taking 1-2 PTs a week. Is it okay if I just skim or even skip some of the lessons if I'm already fully confident with the material?

Help me out here. Thanks :)

Hi, first time poster long time lurker here..

I just wrote my LSAT a few days ago after studying on and off for over a year.

I'm certain I did not do well though because of messing up pretty majorly on the LG and RC section.

I think I had some anxiety and completely froze up when it came to the Logic Games section and spent way too much time overanalyzing the first two games and was only able to finish 2 1/2 of the games so that left me guessing the rest of the questions and the last game. I was really bummed about this because the games themselves did not seem like they were too difficult but the pressure just really got to me and I had to re-read things over and over and just psyched myself out.

How can I get more confident and faster at the LG games? I've printed out all the games that JY has talked about in the curriculum and have been redoing them but if I encounter something new I always freeze.

RC was also a struggle for me and I only got through 3/4 passages and completely guessed on the fourth passage. The timing just really screws me over where I only get through 3 of the 4 passages even when doing my practice tests. Can someone please provide me with some advice on how I can get through all 4 passages?

I'm pretty certain at this point I will cancel my score because I don't want to screw myself in case I get a really low score. I would like to retake and do the December LSAT after working on these weaknesses. I only have a few months left so I want to make good use of my time.

Any insight would be appreciated!

So I made a slight bubbling error during games. I caught it, corrected it, and moved on. Didn't think about it again until today. Now I'm eaten alive with paranoia that I messed up the at least half the section (the error happened about halfway down) and that I went -12 or -13 on LG.

Is this wait making me misremember things? Or did I f*** up my entire test?

Does anyone else have an experience like this?

I'll get straight into it. I have no problem getting the correct level 1, 2, 3 star questions (as labelled by 7sage), but i tend to get level 4 and 5 questions wrong more times than not.

This applies to both logical reasoning and reading comprehensions

For logical reasoning i would get questions ranging from 16-25 wrong and for reading comprehension, just when i think i am going to get all the correct answers for a particular passage correct, i end up finishing 5/6 , 5/7, or 6/7 ....

its difficult to diagnose exactly why i got it wrong...

lack of TRUE understanding of the passage/stimulus?

time pressure?

misread?

etc etc etc

Point is, i am not sure and because i am not sure i fall repeatedly into getting these 4 level and 5 level difficult questions wrong.

I feel like i am at a point where if i can just have this one last breakthrough and conquer these 4 and 5 level questions that i will be well on my way to consistently get the score i want with confidence.

Can anyone share how they overcame this temporary hurdle?

Bill J. Priest Institute for Economic Development in Dallas, MONDAY TEST, 9/26/16

Proctors: one woman. Did not remember she was offering the exam and arrived 30 minutes late. I don't want to go into too much detail, the case is under review. She was very nice but should not have been an exam proctor. She also did not have a registry to check me in. She read the instructions very quietly, and had I not known what they were, I would not have heard her. See more below.

Facilities: bathroom was a ways down the hall but good, room was all right. Room was very large, windows in the back. Standard elementary school desks, maybe about 20 in the room. Desks were small and did not have space to spread out-- had to slide my answer sheet under my exam when not bubbling. Big, nice cafeteria on the floor with lots of vending machines, and a nice set of couches to wait at.

Room next door to mine was under construction during the exam.

How many in the room: just me.

Left-handed accommodation: I didn't look, and I am not left handed.

Noise levels: construction for the first 10 minutes, then my proctor turned on a noise canceling machine which drowned it out. Proctor talked to herself during the exam, but the room itself was quiet.

Parking: Parking was good, but I was also the only one testing. I didn't look to see if there was more around the corner, because there were only a few spots immediately in front of the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: got there at 8:20, Testing started at 9:45, then section 1 maybe at 9:55/10? Test ended at 1:40.

Irregularities or mishaps: I showed up at 8:20, ticket said arrive by 8:30 and meet in the lobby. No one was there, no one in the building even knew what the LSAT was. Security guard pulled up a schedule to check for me and said the test was only on Saturday and there was no record of anything that day. We called the LSAC and they confirmed I had my test there but would not speak to me more because it was after 8:30 and I would not have been allowed my phone had I been taking the scheduled test. I was a hysterical mess, and thankfully my mom had driven me, so she was corraling staff to help search for my proctor.

At 9, a woman arrived and acted like nothing happened. I believe the LSAC contacted her and sent her down. My mom says she thinks the LSAC woke her up. She was nice, but come on. She had the three of us-- me, mom, her-- sit and have oatmeal before my test, which was helpful because I had been hysterically crying until then. When my mom left, we started. She wouldn't let me have any water during the exam, but she ate some chips and talked to herself a lot during the test. There was construction in the room next door which started when I started section 1, but again, my proctor put on a noise canceling machine.

Would you take the test here again?

Maybe? If I knew for a fact the proctor knew to give me a test and showed up on time and they weren't doing construction, yeah. All of those seemed to be unique to my situation, and I highly doubt they will be repeated. All my misfortune aside, my biggest complaint was that the desks were smaller than I'd like, but they were definitely usable-- I didn't have to fold my exam or anything. I appreciated that they offered noise canceling machines.

Date of Exam: 9/26/16

Would there be a long line during the rest time?

Thanks.

Just wondering...

I take the LSAT in 10 days and haven't had any serious study. Any advice?

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Hey guys!

This past test I know for a fact that my essay was written terribly. My reasoning was not strong at all and I wrote only until the halfway point of the back page. Not being hard on myself at all-- this essay really was a piece of junk. I plan to take the test again in December, and I'm going to make sure that not only my score improves tremendously (definitely scored ~153 on this one) but also that I write a whole lot better to make up for this first try. Trying my hardest to rebound from a pretty bad test overall. Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks so much!

Proctors: Three nice ladies. They followed the rules strictly.

Facilities: Mason Hall and some students were in an Angell Hall auditorium

What kind of room:Large classroom with long tables,

How many in the room: more than 40

Desks:Big long tables, more than enough place for you to lay out your materials

Left-handed accommodation:I don't know, I'm not left-handed

Noise levels:Generally quiet, though people upstairs moved their chairs and caused some noise for a few minutes.

Parking: I don't drive

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Less than 30 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: no

Other comments: Very cold air-conditioning, so remember to bring a jacket; You cannot go to the bathroom once you've checked in

Would you take the test here again? I hope I don't need to take the LSAT again...But yea if I am going to take the Dec one.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:Sep 24 2016

Hey I am having a tough time with sufficient assumptions for some reason. Did anyone else have a harder time with them and find a resource that really helped? it just isn't clicking yet. Any suggestions? thanks in advance

What is 7sage contact info?

Hi guys,

I'm trying to decide where to register for the LSAT.

These are the options:

College of Alameda

Marriott Walnut Creek

Samuel Meritt Health Center

Of the three I'm leaning towards College of Alameda because of the desk space but I'm concerned about the noise level. Almost all the reviews were great but one person wrote that he could hear the planes flying overhead from the airport. I feel like that would distract me.

If anyone had taken at any of these locations, please let me know what you think!!

I am currently preparing to take the LSAT in December...I think LR is a huge problem for me and I don't know how to fix it and I feel super frustrated :( My LSAT score is around 165-175 (depending on how badly LR is going) and I would love to get 170+ in December...on my last PT I scored -3 in one LR and -6 on the other. Ouch!

I've reviewed the curriculum and I've gone through powerscore, and I just started using the LSAT trainer. I've used analytics and it seems like I miss flaw questions often. I have also been doing BR and writing out explanations, looking them up, watching videos, etc.

Going to try and describe my problem...it seems that I can always understand the conclusion and the support. I generally know what is wrong with the argument but my phrasing of it seems to be off? Then I get thrown off by the answer choices. It always makes sense after I read an explanation, but then the next time it seems like I am still missing LR questions. I feel like I have been studying for so long that this is making me wonder what I am doing wrong - I must be being inefficient somehow. I don't know what to do.

Is this normal?

Thanks for your help.

When I studied for other tests, people suggest to read questions first.

Why we should not do the same for this test?

What makes this test different from others?

(Do you read questions first for other tests or not?)

So my issue is that I'm trying to raise my score from a 160 to 165 by December and am focusing on the games for a few weeks to do this. My question is just that when I do these games, should i just be doing them over and over again until i perfect all the inferences within the time limit, or should i be BR'ing before looking to the videos for explanations? What i've been doing so far is doing each game timed and then looking to the videos for explanations on the ones i missed. Then i put the game away for a few days and try it again a few days later and see if i can make the inferences i missed the first time around within the suggested target time.(I usually score anywhere between 17-20 on the LG section during PTs so I'm trying to get as close to perfect on the games as i can.)

Here's my review for Western Washington University. I actually live in BC but this test centre is the closest to my house and it's really good (based on my limited experience) and I'm not really sure I want the word to get out before the next time I have to write haha.

Proctors: There were two women, super friendly and the one at the front was really encouraging, kept telling us how well prepared she thought we looked during the break and after the test was over. They also let us keep water on the desk and reminded people that knuckle cracking was distracting in between sections. Proctors were quiet and I never heard them chatting or saw them moving. One stayed up at the back and the other sat at the front.

Facilities: Restrooms were down the hall, 1 minute walk for slowpokes, 25 seconds for everyone else. I don't know what they looked like because I don't use public washrooms....assuming they were standard, had toilets and sinks...

What kind of room: Small lecture hall (aka higher at the back, lower at the front) with long tables for desks and chairs that were attached by a swivel. Chairs kind of sucked but what can you really expect at a school?

How many in the room: 13 (15 were scheduled but 2 were no-shows). They mentioned to us before the test that they decided to split us into 3 separate groups based on last names so I'm assuming every room had about the same. Plenty of room to stretch out and line up all 15 of your backup pencils. The room was far from being full and I there there was a 3 seat gap in between each person.

Desks: Long tables attached to the floor so no movement. No wiggling.

Left-handed accommodation: No one was left handed in my room but since there were so few of us I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to move if you needed to.

Noise levels: Super quiet. Literally heard nothing the entire time I was writing. They also had signs posted on the room doors as well as the building entrance/exit doors asking for quiet as testing was in progress.

Parking: Pay parking from a meter. Not difficult to figure out. Walked probably 10 feet from my car to the building. When I did a trial drive earlier in the summer they had a visitor centre that was opened where they told me they would issue visitor parking passes for free but unfortunately the centre was closed last Saturday.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They were really efficient in getting us all lined up and in the correct rooms. We started the first section at 9:05 but only because one test taker was either super nervous and didn't understand how to complete any of his bubble sheet or didn't pay attention to the instructions and just sat there silently not asking questions. A few people also didn't pay attention when they told us to insert the writing sample form into the last page of the test booklet.

Irregularities or mishaps: One test taker was clearly bubbling in answers after the 5th section ended. The proctor at the rear immediately came down and told him he wasn't permitted to be doing that. The front proctor confirmed but still let him continue after he told them he only bubbled in one hole. I (and probably everybody else except the proctor at the front who was almost right in front of him) saw him the entire time as he as the only person noticeably moving after time had been called. He must have bubbled in at least 10 by the time she told him to stop. He claimed he didn't know he wasn't permitted but we got constant reminders about it so I doubt it.

Other comments: I think that this test centre is underused since it's in such a random middle of nowhere location and I didn't see any other reviews on it prior to writing. The proctor also asked us if we wanted a 10 or 15 minute break before the break started. I wanted 10 but no one else did or maybe a bunch of us did but didn't put our hands up...lemmings.

Would you take the test here again? 100% (sadly that will soon be a reality come grey day...)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sep 24, 2016