Hello--

I just took the Dec 2015 LSAT, and realized in the middle of the test I was doing poorly. I did not go in to the test as prepared as I could be, and after studying since June (and having a large family-related set-back) I had complete apathy about the test walking in to it.

I have a strong GPA, and believe I'm capable of a strong LSAT score with better preparation and mindset.

I have never scored higher on an LSAT pt than I thought I would, and I would imagine this situation is no different- I can't imagine my score being above a 160, and I feel like I am capable of much higher.

Most posts stress that a cancel has no benefit, but my question is, what's the harm? I feel like a cancellation looks much better than a low LSAT on your record-- even if schools claim not to notice.

Any input is greatly appreciated, I have three days to decide.

Hello,

I am having a hard time understanding why E is correct while B is incorrect. Can someone help me understand this logic or frame of thought? Thank you

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-4-question-19/

So I took the December LSAT. I have taken the LSAT twice before, in undergrad when I thought I was ready to go to law school. It ended up not working out for me at the time (family related issues). I was expecting a pretty good score, I've been taking PT's in the mid to high 160's. But on this test I missed 2 games and would be hopeful for a 160. I don't think I would be putting my best foot forward with whatever score I got. But I do want to apply this year, I have been out of college for 3 years and feel like it is time to go back. Any advice on whether I should cross my fingers with this score or cancel and take the Feb. test?

When it comes to these time consuming questions, what’s a good time to aim for? Under 2minutes? (Assuming you can do the freebies like sufficient assumption, PSA or principle questions in under 30 seconds)

Hi,

I've been taking a few timed tests lately (after I received some good advice to do so) and have been consistently scoring 164 on all the exams. I took a timed practice test last night and scored a 165 after a few days of extensive blind review. I'm currently trying to take the upcoming LSAT exam (February '16) and my goal is to score at least a 170 (but would ideally like to score 173+). I would rather not push it off until June. I quit my job, moved home to study, and after a lot of distractions there I recently moved back to the city this week and have been putting in a lot of uninterrupted work towards the LSAT. I need to get a job again soon but also know that I have to make the difficult decision of prioritizing the LSAT.

From those who have some insights to share -- do you think that it is possible to hit a 170+ by the February exam date? If I'm scoring a consistent 164/165 on timed exams now? I have until the end of December to register for the February LSAT, so any information + advice you could give would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Hello,

Can someone please explain to me why A is the correct answer but all others are wrong. I initially chose C, and I don't see how it's wrong.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-4-question-03/

I have been looking everywhere and can't seem to find any place where I can buy the 180 watch. Their website doesn't mention when they will start selling again. Is there anyone who wants to sell theirs?

Just took the December LSAT and totally blew it...test anxiety got the better of me and my mind went seriously foggy for the second half of the test. I definitely don't think I'm going to score in the range I'd hoped for so delaying my application to the next cycle seems to be the only choice. Should I go in for the February test or push it back even further to the June one? Logic Games is where I am seriously lacking and really need to put in work...But I concerned if pushing the test back too far can in some way have a negative effect on my performance...

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So I'm doing something close to Pacificos strategy on LG. On really easy games, I don't even watch JYs explanation and I can do those twice in 15 minutes or less. On medium difficult games, I usually just watch JYs setup and don't bother on going thru every answer choice in videos bc I don't feel I need too. Once I get the setup, I'm fine on answer types. (Unless you'd recommend otherwise) Usually takes me about 20-30 minutes and for harder games, I'll watch the whole video and they can take me 30+ minutes. All in all, it takes me like 6 hours to do 3 sections effectively of LG.. How is that time wise, for effiency?

Admin's note: Thread hijacking! I'm turning this thread into the Official Dec. LSAT Discussion. Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the December '15 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "Question 4 was odd" or "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC.

Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

One exception is you can say which section was the experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

Have fun discussing!

So far we've found out:

Real RC - 27 Questions:

– Gender Studies/Women in Rome

– Black National Theater

– Corporate Crime/Punishment

– Lamarack Theory

Real LG - 23 Questions:

– Concerts

– Pottery

– Office

– Committees

Real LR - 25 & 26 Questions:

– Waste Management

– Dolphins/Elephants

– Amber

– Ships in the Ocean

– Lemurs

– Psychic Girl

– Honeybees

– Vaccine X

– Gold Mines

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@dj768083724's original post:

Going to go with LR with question about elephant seals and dolphins experimental.

(Read Dillon's post and think this should be ok to say, sorry in advance if it is not)

Just sat to write the Dec. I did a look back at october LR's section to compare. In October, only 1 argument part-role question and 0 main point questions. December several of both. Anyone else notice that?

Is it possible for the LSAT to have trends where exams are specifically designed to have harder LR or RC and then easier LG or vice versa at particular times? If that's something that is often done is there a way we can get a sense of what the trend will be like or when they might choose to calibrate it a certain way? I feel like there are definite trends among the different months the exams are released on. I'd imagine they'd have to take into account whether students might be improving on LG for example so they balance it out by giving harder LG while minimizing the other sections.

Hi everyone!

PT. 60 & 61 are on the schedule for next week, but would anyone like to add PT. 76 for Friday?

hahahahahaha

*cries*

I wrote the LSAT today and definitely did not score anywhere close to where I had been scoring on my preptests...so it looks like I will be re-writing sometime in 2016 (probably June). I only self-studied for 1 month for my LSAT today so I was thinking of taking a 7Sage course in preparation of my next test. Any recommendations on which 7Sage course to sign up for and how much time I should give myself to properly prepare for the next time? I was scoring 169 - 171 during my self study but I will be amazed if I cracked 160 today on the real thing.

Proctor: any questions before we start?

Rando: may I grab a sip of water from my bottle really quick?

Proctor: yes.

Rando: [sips water].

Proctor: anyone else?

Rando: can I grab a sip of water during the test?

Proctor: no.

Rando: during the 5 minute breaks, may I grab a sip of water or eat a handful of nuts?

Proctor: yes.

Me: this dude is going to be sorely disappointed when there are no 5 minute breaks.

End result: Rando drinks water during test at the end of each section after time is called and is not reprimanded for it.

[Facepalm]

Jesus Christ, I am usually good at LG but the third game totally threw my off and I was literally blank for 3 mintues and had to jump to G4. Thank god there are only 5 questions!

How many law schools will you apply to?

Hey, so according to most literature out there it appears that the "scale" or "curve" is predetermined based on prior test experimental sections. If that's the case, what explanation is there for the generally more "forgiving" December curve. In 4 of the past 6 December tests, you could get -14 and still get a 170

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/lsat-curve-test-equating-at-lsac.html

So I sat the Dec. exam today going in very confident. I've been PTing in the 168-172 range for the past 5 PTs. First 3 section went by amazing, felt like those times I scored 170+. Then the LG came and I just panicked on G3. Sunk too much time so I skipped to G4 but the damage was done, my mental state was gone. Ended up guessing on 8 questions total in the LG games. I'm guessing I'll end up in the 160-163 range. Terrible. Was going to submit my applications by the end of the year but looks like I'm going to have to wait till Feb.

Any tips, to prevent future incidents like this? I'm just going to go and drill the hell out LG for the next 9 weeks.

The answers to questions on the 'question bank' don't have explanations. How can I get explanations to the questions?

i accidentally let my course run up -- i bought it back in the summer and re-upped it a few months ago.. and i thought i was still in but i just went to re-up it again and now it's saying i have to buy the course all over again :(

anyone know a way around this? i really don't want to let go of my 7sage family because i'm taking again in feb but i guess if i have to buy the course again i will because it's too valuable not to! i just wish if i was going to spend that money again i would have re-upped to a better course.

any suggestions!?!?

I just finished the 12/5 test. I don't know whether I should cancel my score.

I have two major concerns that persuade me to cancel my score:

1. I did not do well on this test at all. This is my first time taking LSAT, except for pretests. But I am sure I could do way better than this if give me more time to practice.

2. The proctors told me they had to report me because I was rewriting my name on the bubble sheet after the first 5 sections were done. I explained to them that my name was slightly erased by my hand when I filled out the bubbles, so I had to rewrite them just to be safe. They said they would send a note to LSAC and let them know I was rewriting my name instead of making marks on questions. So, they let me sign my name on the surface of the booklet, and I did. I don't know how much negative influence will this cause. I felt very upset about it.

Also, I am struggling not cancel the score, because this is the last chance for me to apply 2016 fall admission. I don't really want to take a gap year. But I do want to attend a really good law school.

So, right now, I am struggling! Really confused.

Please give me some suggestions. Also please let me know if you have any similar experiences and how you handled it! If you have any ideas about what to do during the gap year, let me know!!!!

P.S: I am an international student. I don't know how much difference will this make. So let me know if you have any ideas.

Is the Lamarck RC experimental or real?