Hi all. I'm sure this has been addressed many times before, but does The Trainer use questions from Prep Tests that 7Sage doesn't?

I'm thinking about using it as a supplement, but I don't want to waste too many questions from valuable practice tests.

Other thoughts on The Trainer? Thanks.

I wanted to buy the 7sage starter course, but I don't have PTs 39 to 44 (the ones the courses use) so I will have to buy them separately. Are these PTs too old? Currently, I am following the trainer schedule and they use 52-71 which I do have. I started reading the trainer already and only took the 2007 diagnostic so far. Should I purchase 7sage starter course since they use older PTs and then pick up on the trainer since they use newer PTs? Or should I just not get the 7sage at all continue with the trainer and then If I still don't feel comfortable once I finish get 7sage? Thank you!

Hi Everyone,

I keep seeing various people talk about the 'LG Bundle' and I was wondering where I could purchase it or if it's even still available.

Thanks for the help!

Wouldn't it be great if all LSAC proctors used the 7sage proctor? It would be reliable, consistent, and would reduce the rate of errors on their part. Or they could use some other type of app that isn't endorsed by any one particular LSAT company. The fact that they use manual timers (which allows for time shortages) is quite ridiculous in my view.

(It should be painfully obvious this is only wishful thinking) :p

Hi everyone, I am around 3-4 months into my preparation (finished 7sage curriculum and left with half of the trainer), my diagnostic (PT 55) was 150 and BR was 156 (I just did BR for fun with little idea about fundamentals) and I took a PT again (PT 39) sometime back, it was a heartbreaking 154 with a BR score of 167. I felt that I need timed section practise for a while before I take more PTs. Could anyone please suggest resources for the same? Does it still help to practise timed sections from PT 1-35 even though I have done some of the LR questions while finishing the curriculum and the trainer.

60.3.22

Is there a solid reason as to why C is not a necessary assumption?

The premises clearly say that increasing demand causes gasoline price raise. This is same as saying gasoline demand can't increase without gasoline price increase, which is C.

Just because it's a premise doesn't mean it's not a necessary assumption in case that is one of the reasons one used for elimitating this choice. I see why A is a required assumption but don't see why C is not.

I would like to take the December LSAT, but am not sure if I can perform as well as I would like. My goal is 160+ range. I do have time on my hands. I am willing to work my butt off If it can be done. If so, what resources and study plan should I follow. (Just purchased the trainer) Thank you :)

Hi all, just wanted to share a great tool that has been working well for me to organize my study tasks. I think there are some particular challenges for self-guided LSAT students regarding time management and where to focus, and perhaps some of this can be addressed with better organization. I have been using Trello to keep track of four main categories: To learn (core curriculum/fundamentals), To review (material I know I am fuzzy on or need to memorize), To practice (problem sets to drill), and then notes about what is currently tripping me up on each section. I have also organized my overall study timeline on this tool. You can add checklists to cards, and due dates for cards as well.

Works great for me - if anyone is struggling to get organized or keep track of work outside of the 7Sage syllabus, I recommend this.

Hello everyone,

I know the topic was overly discussed but i think it would be useful for starters to have a list of what, most people, believe are the best resources for each area or just in general... I know how valuable 7sage is and the Trainer also seems to be a unanimity but besides that if everyone helped to put a nice list together i think it would be a nice starting point.

Thank you all

Does it hurt your application if you only provide general letters of recommendation that don't mention the school specifically? I am applying to a lot of schools, because I am trying to go to law school in the same city as my fiancee who is matching with a residency program. He has to apply to a lot of different cities to ensure a match. I have a strong LSAT score and a strong gpa. I have lined up two of my letter writers, but I don't want to ask them to write a letter for each of the individual schools that I am applying to as it will be a lot. Any thoughts?

Just to provide some background, I started studying for the test in June (completed the PS LG Bible and skimmed a bit of the LR Bible), and I started 7Sage (The Starter Course) two weeks ago. I'm currently 40% of the way through the 7Sage Core Curriculum, but I'm thinking about adding in timed sections every day or full PT's every day. My question is - how soon is too soon to start doing Practice Tests? I initially planned on taking the test on October 3rd, but I might change that to December.

Since I haven't completed the course, I'm worried that starting too soon will result in the development of bad habits. I have access to all of the Practice Tests released, and I'm fairly certain that I won't be able to complete them all with BR by the time October comes. It almost seems like they're just going to waste (and part of me just wants to make use of them already haha...). I know that another alternative is supplementing the course with questions that correspond to the question types I'm covering in the curriculum, but I'm not sure what the best method would be for incorporating them. That, and I don't know of any comprehensive list that can tell me which ones are which, in terms of question types, so I can just go straight to them (If anyone has something like this, it would be greatly appreciated!!!)

I've been studying full time, and can continue to do so until the end of September, at which point I'll have to cut down some due to school. It would just be nice (and reassuring, since I feel like I've been completely winging all of this lol) to get some advice on how I should be managing my study time. I've basically just been following the 7Sage syllabus to the T for the past two weeks, but I'm wondering if there's more that I should be doing as I'm going through it.

Sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance! This website and forum have been great help!

I will be shortly be studying for the LSAT again! Woohoo!

Here's a #TBT from the last time I was studying. Share your pics as well!

http://puu.sh/ja2YT/96fb00d579.jpg

The logic games explanations are on Youtube, so their speed can be changed with Youtube shortcuts. Are there speed shortcuts for the 7Sage player?

Hey guys,

I just started PT'ing with aggressive time constraints. Here's what I've done and what I noticed.

1) 7sage app is absolute gold with this. The clock moves more quickly, so you can visually track your progress on the clock face just as you're used to doing with good ol' analog. So you still progress through 35 minutes of clock time, just in about 30 minutes or so.

2) I was surprised at how far I was from running out of time, even with 5 fewer minutes. And accuracy was 0-2 on all sections. this blew my mind a bit. I was expecting to feel VERY rushed; I didn't feel rushed at all.

3) Caveat is that this first attempt was on a retake (haven't touched since April); attempting on a freshy (PT72) today.

Anyone else want to share <30 min/sections tips?

I mean if JY and JWang blow through LR in ~20 minutes, I'm sure, with time/practice, the gap can be closed and ample time for mulling over regained (aka, returning to a toughy with fresh eyes and time to spare).

Whenever I go back to the questions and blind review all of them, my number of missed questions for both of the sections on the LR would significantly drop. For example, on PT 54, I got (ugh) -19 wrong and when I go back to figure the questions out w/o looking at the explanations, I would get -5 wrong.

It seems that I know how to do them, however, it took me longer to answer them (compared to the 1:40 min avg./question).

I also notice that I have more wrong answers on #17-#26. Yet, when I really look at those questions, they're actually pretty easy!

I assume that I am: a) Intimidated by the wordy questions (that usually characterize #17-26) b) Intimidated by my thinking that #17-26 are the most difficult ones.

Does anyone else have this problem? Do any of you 7-sagers have ANY suggestion/advice on how I should tackle the LR?

I'm taking PT 55 today, and I'm going to start answering #17-26. Perhaps, I'd be less intimidated near the start of the test.

I started the Trainer and I just got to the LG sections. How did you guys learned the notations to diagram the rules? Did you make a cheat sheet, or did you memorize them as you practice? thank you!

How long after you submit your transcripts does LSAC calculate your LSDAS gpa?

Do all law schools differ as to which LSAT is accepted for fall admission? Is it primarily the December LSAT that is accepted for all fall applicants/applications?

If I do not receive the best score possible or the score I was looking forward to receiving after taking the December LSAT, I was thinking of re-taking it in February of next year hoping to apply for fall of the same year. Is that too presumptuous of me? LOL. Most likely it is.

Let me start by saying I have not taken the LSAT. With that said I have some questions.

-Does everyone get the same experimental type? Could john get RC and Susie get LG?

-How much harder/easier is this section? Do you know right away?

-Does it appear at different times for students? John's test starts with experimental but Susie has it last?

-How many different experimental sections are their if their is more than one?

-Do you get your score back for that section?

In one of the early exercises on sufficient and necessary phrases and finding the lawgic indicators I am having trouble understanding JY's reasoning.

"The essential elements of calligraphy have not changed in any material way for over two thousand years."

He has "have" as the indicator and the lawgic as essential elements arrow to not changed and changed to not essential elements.

However, "have" is not on the list he presented but any is and he ignored this in the answer???

Thoughts? Thanks

I love this movie and this scene in particular. If you haven't watched it, you should.

So I took preptest 40, scored a horrid 156. I noticed I did alright on the first two sections, but completely bombed the last two. This was my first time sitting for a PT since my cold diag a few months ago. My BR came out as a 169, still not entirely there, I know.

I noticed the only LR questions I still missed after BR were a couple of the hardest difficulty, with the rest of my problems coming from reading comp. I noticed that I missed a ton of questions at the end that I easily was able to fix through BR.

Is this common? I'm assuming there is a mixture of fundamentals and stamina that plays into this, especially since I've barely taken any full PT's, but I've been drilling and reading the trainer + bibles for over a month now. The diag score is discouraging at this point, though I'm not sure what to make of the BR score.

I have finished 8 PT tests so far. My score has jumped 10 points from 158 to 168 (most recent score). I understand one time score doesn't mean a lot. What matters is narrowing down my score to a small range, a few points above my target of 175. I wonder with only 10 weeks left. Should I do PT 3 times/week this month and August? Then the last month (September), do PT 4-5 times/week?

Hey guys, just wondering, I have the LSAT starter from 7sage, and I was thinking of upgrading to ultimate, but my dilemma is that I am only purchasing the ultimate for the PT explanations, I already own all of the pt's from 1-75. Is the purchase worth it just for explanations?

Do you guys know or think that the new LSATs are harder than the old ones?