Hi everyone,

if I get accepted to my safety school and decide to retake the LSAT in June to apply to my reach schools who rejected me, to see if I have a chance, will the safety school still take me a year later when I refused the offered seat the year prior?

Hello fellow 7sagers,

I have pretty much decided to attend Cardozo Law and really like the idea of doing their Part time program and beginning 1L in May. In my opinion, getting a head start and spreading the first year over 3 semesters is a recipe for success, classes are smaller and taking 10 credits a semester versus 15 leaves more room to focus on each class.

My Mom, however, works for a nationally ranked law firm and has been advised that the big firms do not give as much weight to PT students as they do full time because they know that it might be easier.

I'm conflicted because I took classes in Undergrad all throughout the year in the Winter and Summer (I hate taking time off) and did very well.

What does everyone think? Is it worth risking perhaps a lower GPA just to go Full time when all the May start students will have to go full time anyway beginning in the 2L year?

Hi everyone!

I live in the Baltimore, MD area and am looking for an online Skype/Facetime study buddy as it would be easier to fit in my schedule than meeting in person. I am brand new to the LSAT, am looking to take the June offering, and just learning techniques/strategies through 7sage. I'd be interested in hearing from you. Thanks :-)

Hey there. I decided to take the December test with not all that much preparation (~10 PT's). Average PT score was around ~159 but ended up with a 152. In my PT's and actual test my LR/RC were approx. -6 with LG closer to ~ -9-11. I'm senior Finance major and could get an internship this summer and prep for the June test more seriously. With 7Sage's resources how are the chances given my situation (low LG sections) to get up around 165+? Thanks for your help.

I find that when I am doing in out games with conditional statement rules, my diagram is logically correct nut looks different than the explanation videos and it is harder for me to get to the answer using my way. When I watch the vidoes, it is much clear to follow the path to the right answer using the instructor's videos. I can't seem to figure out how to follow his method of drawing the diagram on future similar games

For example, I did PT 36 Game 1 today and my diagram looked like this

O -> P -> not K -> T

-> W -> F or T

I am a non-traditional student, meaning nearly 40. I am retired, so working is not a big deal with a pension. I took my first LSAT and did not score what I wanted to due to a major injury the day before. I did not score high enough to make the lowest score accepted from last year's pickings of the preferred school I need to get in to (I have small school aged kids that need to stay put). Anyway, does it hurt to submit an application with strong softs (military, big resume, PS, LOR's, etc) and retake the LSAT later this year as a contingency? If I am refused to the preferred school this year, would the school use the refusal against me next year if I reapply with a higher LSAT?

Hi everyone!

So I got my score yesterday and am incredibly disappointed since it was substantially lower than what I was getting on practice tests. I have already registered for the February LSAT and plan on writing it because I have already submitted my applications for the 2015.

From the research that I've done, writing in February really doesn't put me in the greatest place considering that most acceptances are already sent out by the time the law schools will get my February scores and review my applications. I should also note that I applied to all of the Canadian law schools (who especially recommend writing earlier than February of the year you want acceptance) and US law schools (who seem to be a bit more flexible with the February LSAT because of the rolling admissions).

I was just wondering if anyone has any insight or advice of what I should do. I really don't want to delay another year of applying and this will be my last time writing the lsat so I need to make it count and if I only have a 5% chance of getting in, I may as well just wait until June to write it.

Hi everyone!

I usually don't post on here (I read a majority of them, however) but I am feeling a little down and out lately, and was hoping to get some advice. Please excuse the long post as well.

I started 7sage last May. After seeing my diagnostic, I knew that I was going to need a lot of work in order to achieve my goals, which I was okay with. The course was phenomenal. I enjoyed learning about the strategies and methodology that was necessary to getting the questions correct (believe it or not). It explained everything so simply and so clearly. I felt my score was slowly but surely increasing each day because I was learning how to conquer this test. After studying as often as I could with school and internships, I was able to complete the curriculum in December. I took my next test after the semester was over and my score wasn't as high as I had hoped. I got a 149 and a 159 after BR. I was a little surprised but I kept pushing and did four more practice tests. Needless to say, I haven't got above 153 on the timed section or above 161 BR. I even did one untimed and only got a 158 and 159 after BR. I feel so depressed and I honestly don't know what to do. I did every single part of the curriculum and took meticulous notes on all of it. I didn't do that bad on all of the quizzes and got roughly 8/10 on all of them. The only significant improvement that I have seen is that I am consistently getting -1 or -2 on LG after BR, which is much better than my previous -10 or worse. However on LR I'm going -17 after BR or worse combined. RC is usually -7 after BR. I know I should be getting in the 170s after BR but I honestly don't even know how

The worst part is when I sit down to take a practice test, I instantly go into panic mode as soon as I start my watch. It's like every single strategy I learned goes right out the window. I just might as well close my eyes and guess. This is particularly troublesome on RC because if I spend too long reading a passage (which I always do) I just pretty much guess at the questions and go on to the next passage. I get such bad anxiety under timed constraints that it significantly hinders any progress. Not only that when I BR those LR questions, I seem to justify my answer, which is only making matters worse. I've been completely Blind Reviewing the entire test and redoing every single game and RC passage, which has been very helpful on these two sections. Nonetheless, LR is still killing me.

Everyone seems to say that this is a learnable test but I feel like I am physically incapable of doing better. I mean, I am smart kid (3.7+ GPA, dean's list, honors, yada yada yada), but this seems to be an insurmountable hurtle. Quite frankly, it sucks because if it truly is a numbers game, this is the only thing holding me back from getting into a top tier law school. I study for at least 35 hours a week and to see such little progress is just gut-wrenching. The only thing keeping me sane is that I started working out 3-4 times a week in order to completely clear my mind.

I just started going through the LSAT Trainer. In addition, I was considering getting the Cambridge LR drill set PT 1-38 in order to try and make some progress. I've spent so much time trying to understand the test and how to solve each question type that I think it may be better to start do problems. The fool proof review, for example, is really helped me on LG and just doing games over and over again. But is it helpful to employ a similar strategy on LR such that you do the same questions over and over until you fully understand what you need to do get it right? I think one of the BR videos, JY says something about it being not beneficial to just to problem after problem of the same type. So would not be beneficial to do the drill set then? Not only that, my concern with this is that I don't know where to go to get explanations if I do poorly. Also, because I can only finish 3/4 passages under timed conditions (never mind getting them right), should I purchase the RC package also? I ask because I literally have no idea what to do from here. I constantly think about just giving up because the returns are diminishing and I don't know even know if I am capable of doing well. I was originally going to take it in September, then February, and now June (thanks for charging me to reschedule...), but the June testing locations are all pretty far from my house.

I honestly don't even know what to do anymore. Any help anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the great material at a great price.

Hello, everyone!

I'd like to congratulate everyone who got through 7Sage course and took the LSAT. It was a very stressful semester! I would like some different perspectives on my current situation and thought of no better place to ask for such advice.

I started studying for the December exam in mid August. I was spending hours upon hours everyday along with school full time and my part-time job. I had scored a 147 on my first practice exam, and while I was disappointed I knew there was nowhere to go but up. In the middle of the semester though (around the same time as midterms), my father needed surgery and I needed to contribute a lot more to the household operations, which killed about a months worth of study time (I studied, but not as much as I needed to).

Fast forwarding to when I got back on track, I really started to nail down my LG. Getting maybe 5 wrong, then 2 wrong, then 3 wrong. I wouldn't say I mastered that section, but it did a lot for my score. Two weeks before the December exam I took PTs #40 (June 2003), #68 (Dec. 2012), #69 (June 2013), and #70 (Oct. 2013). With these 4 tests I score three 156s and one 157. I felt I was prepared for the test, and that these four test really reflected where I was and how I would perform on the exam.

I got my score yesterday and it was a 147. My heart dropped. I wanted to cry, but held back the tears because I was in front of others. I'm still applying to the schools I planned on applying to (their low end was 151 last year), and I'm hoping that everything else on my application nudges me over (strong GPA, PS [LS admissions officer personally told me my resume and PS were strong], and letters of recommendation.) However, I'm still skeptical that I'll even be able to make it in, and it's so depressing that after a full semester of school, work, and LSAT I dropped the ball on test day, because that score is not really indicative of where I truly am.

I have some options. I could take the Feb. LSAT but I felt that would be rushed and not very productive (it's already decently late in the application cycle for next fall.) So my aim is June/October 2015, assuming I don't make it into the schools I want. Of course in this off year I would try to find a full time job and hopefully have a better score at that point.

I know this is a lengthy read, but I appreciate it if you made it this far. I wanted to know what some of you guys think and what you would do in my position. It also felt good to air it out. Also, if you're in my position, at least you know you're not alone! :'(

I started studying for LSAT in July - I quit my job so that I could dedicate every waking moment to studying. I felt really good about where I was and was PT'ing at 166. Took the September LSAT and was incredibly disappointed when I got a 158. I usually get perfect scores on LG, so when that tricky section threw me off, I knew my score would be lower, but not that much lower! So I studied more for the December test, and was PT'ing even higher - 167-170. Again, I was devastated last night when I found out I only scored a 158 again.

So here's my real concern: my score doesn't reflect my ability at all, and it seems like I have a test taking problem--some serious nerves are causing me a lot of grief. I took 40 different practice tests. I only scored below a 160 3 times. That is seriously concerning to me. Is it even worth it to take the test a third time? I have this fear that I will inevitably get nervous again and wind up with a 158 for the third time. But I also really can't imagine waiting until next cycle to take the test all over again and waiting another year to go to law school. I had originally intended to apply for the 2013-2014 cycle, but unfortunately I experienced a string of deaths of people close to me during the summer when I needed to study but just couldn't. I don't think a 158 is a good enough score to get me into a school I'd be happy at. But I can't imagine waiting yet another year only to score the same 158 a third time.

So I guess my options are to go for it for this cycle with a 158 and hope I get in to one of the schools I want. Or to forego this cycle, put it off another year, retake in June and HOPE that my score will be higher even when I have so much doubt? And I have no idea what the dynamics around taking the Feb test would be.

I've just been mulling over these thoughts in my head for a day now and I could really use any outside opinion. I totally trust you guys and this forum has helped me a lot so I would appreciate any honest opinion. Thanks for taking the time to hear me out!

Need some advice here. I took the LSAT in October 2013 (canceled score), September 2014 (159), and December 2014 (159). Very disappointed, especially since I seem to be making the same stupid mistakes. I only signed up for 7sage between the September-December administration, so I really only had 6 weeks to prepare. I think that bit me in the ass when it came down to internalizing JY's method and the way that you need to think on the LSAT. I have a 3.7 GPA from an Ivy, some great softs, and am an old, non-traditional student, so I have a pretty good application other than the LSAT and I KNOW I can do better because I was PTing in the high 160s/low 170s. ARGHHHH.

So, my question. Does LSAC's 3 exams in 2 years limitiation mean that I can't take the lsat again in June 2014? Or do I have to wait until October 2014? Would love to know if anyone else knows...

So, I've been accepted to two great schools one in the 20s and one in the 30s in the rankings. However, I am trying to get into a top 5 school. I have a 161 now, but am seriously thinking about retaking in February. Can retaking hurt my chances at all? I also have a 3.87 GPA and very strong softs on my resume.

Hello all,

I was disappointed to say the least with my December LSAT score of 157. I was PTing at 161 average and had scored a 165 a few days before the test. With my 3.2 GPA, I needed a higher score.

My plan was to always go straight through to law school from undergrad, but with these numbers, I might get into some schools, but with no scholarship. I really want to attend the University of Wisconsin law school (currently undergrad there) and think I may have a shot (probably will get waitlisted).

Should I retake and apply next cycle or apply to UW and attend if I get in? I have been distressed the last 24 hours and have a thousand thoughts running through my head. Your input is appreciated.

Good luck everyone!!

hi, I just got my LSAT score and am trying to figure out where to apply/what my chances are at different schools. Does anyone know what are the best/most accurate sites that tell you this?

Thanks so much!!

Hello guys,

As we all know, the December LSAT scores came out on yesterday. This was my first time taking the test and I was deeply disappointed by my score. I scored an 139. I was in complete shock because when I would take practice tests, I scored a 151. Upon reviewing my answer key and etc, I found that the answers I changed were actually correct. Second guessing and timing are my biggest downfalls. I think another issue that I suffered from was the fact that I was so fixated on numbers rather than accuracy. I wish I would have known about 7sage earlier on. I used the powerscore bibles to prepare and wanted to join a 7sage prep course. However, due to me being unemployed, I could not afford to pay for a class. My score got to me at first but I had to realize that nothing in life that we truly want comes easily. It takes hard work, determination, persistence, and good faith! With that being said, I will be retaking the exam in February and wanted to get you guys opinion on how I can increase my score and become more confident. My desired score is a 150 or above. I know that I can do it because law school is my destiny. Thank you 7sage community for your support!!

Hi all,

In the December LSAT, I had an experimental LR section so only one RC section (section 4). I remember clearly two of the articles were on perfume and stealing thunder. In the LSAC's Disclosure Book uploaded RC section, neither of these articles were included. Anyone else notice this issue?

Peter

Hi 7Sage community! I have a quick question for you guys:

I took the LSAT for the first time two and a half years ago and I really didn't do my best. However, I sat for the December 2014 LSAT and my new score is 6 points higher than my old one. So I know that law schools will be able to see both scores, but I've heard that they really consider the highest score. How true is that? I mean, should I be applying to schools with LSAT ranges that include my higher score or will I have to shoot a little bit lower?

Hi all,

As we all already know our scores from the December LSAT, I thought I would put this out there and get some opinions. The December test was my second time taking the LSAT as I took it in June. I scored 7 points higher than my first LSAT but unfortunately 4 points lower than my average has been on my timed practice tests from 7sage. As far as applying for schools should I just take that as test day jitters and send out my applications or maybe take the test in February. Also would it look bad to take the test 3 times to some schools? Im kind of confused as to what I should do right now, so any input would be appreciated.

any one looking for a study buddy? I'm looking to test in June and would like to spread the studying out over 6 months- meet up once every week or every other week so that all the problems become second nature. In person would be best but I would work via skype as well. It definitely helps to talk some through with other people.

good luck to everyone who took in Dec

Hey guys, anyone know if the release date for the Dec '14 exam is the same for unpublished test centers?

Can I withdraw my already submited applications if Im not happy with Dec LSAT score?

If I do, would that mean Id have to check the applied before box if i apply the following cycle?

Hi guys,

Just wanted your take on this. For the past three tests now i have seen my blind review score go up. 158-165, but my actual score is not increasing as much and there is still a 10 point gap. What would you recommend to fix the problem, if there is one? Let me know your thoughts.

Writing the Feb exam

done 9 PTs