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Hi everyone,

this is my first time posting in this community. I won't go into my life story, so I'll just get right into the question. My goal is to earn at least a 170-172 on the LSAT and I have roughly a year of studying for this test, using 7sage but also supplementing my studying with the LSAT Trainer and the Powerscore Bibles. I just started the 7sage core curriculum and I've started to become a bit discouraged, specifically on the Main Point/Main Conclusion questions/explanations, as I'm getting almost all of them wrong. This has made me believe that I may be being unrealistic in my goal of earning such a high score on the LSAT. I understand the average LSAT score is around a 152 but unfortunately with my low GPA (3.23) I simply can't afford to get a merely average score, especially since my goal is to attend a reputable, highly ranked law school (not necessarily T14). Any advice is appreciated!

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This is a huge pet peeve of mine and is constantly getting on my nerves. You cannot enable night mode (dark color scheme) without enabling inverted colors. This means when JY references a color by name it's the wrong color. Or that when he displays an image the colors are... inverted... making it look like a paranormal horror film. Same goes for peoples' profiles pictures.

This makes no sense to me and the only reason I see for this is that it might help some individuals with a specific type of color blindness.

The standard white I find to be taxing on my eyes with all the added blue light, etc. It also doesn't help you get to sleep late at night either if you have been staring at an all-white, super-bright screen for hours (studies confirm).

Just give the option to enable night mode WITHOUT enabling inverted colors....

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So I’ve decided to officially take a gap year and while I know my chances at getting in when the Fall 2024 application cycle first opens is far better and taking a gap year will let me prepare for the June 2023 test without stress, I’m still a bit bummed. I always dreamed about going to law school straight from undergrad and I feel like some part of my dreams have been crushed a little.

If anyone has words of advice and encouragement to get past this and look toward the future with a positive light, I would really appreciate it (3 also if anyone has any suggestions on what to do during this gap year, I would really appreciate it.(/p)

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Hello LSAT rockstars!!

I started studying for the LSAT a week ago and am taking the April LSAT (I know, fast paced schedule). On my diagnostic I got a 158, but I am looking to climb to about a 172. Obviously with the time crunch, I want to use the course in the best way possible so I was wondering if I should follow the syllabus chronologically or if I should be jumping around to the sections I am weakest at (which for me is LR followed by RC). I would just hate to let a month of prep go by without using the course most effectively. Also any additional tips for someone just starting out would be wonderful, thanks!

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I can't study. I'm not ready for the Jan lsat and the last few weeks I just cannot study. I thought, 'oh I guess this is what burnout looks like?' But after researching a bit, it doesn't sound like burnout?

I lost my dad to suicide last year and it was a really wild ride leading up to his death... he was on the run from the FBI, then incarcerated. It was a really stressful time for me because I knew he wasn't mentally well and I knew things were going to end badly. I literally begged anyone I could think of--the judge, his pre-trial officer, parole officer, his lawyer, the prosecution, anyone, to get him mental health help. The way things ended was worst case scenario and I'm still processing it all.

And my husband recently lost his job. I don't work so that's obviously super stressful. So much is riding on the lsat for me personally. I left a high-demand religion after being extremely devout my entire life. I'm trying to carve out my own life and identity outside the religion, but it's been such an uphill battle.

Anyway, this isn't meant to be a sob story, but looking for advice. I probably shouldn't apply this cycle? I am scoring in the 150's on PT's but my goal is much higher. I want to reach my score potential. But I also have to balance the reality of needing to get going with law school. I'm older and I need to start my career sooner rather than later.

-Should I even take the Jan lsat?

I've never had depression until after my dad died, and then it was very intense. But I'm in therapy and feeling so much better and have been doing well with studying consistently. I'm puzzled by the study paralysis because I know I don't have to take the Jan lsat--I don't feel like I'm over pressuring myself and feel like I'm good at being gentle with myself and accepting I can't study and doing things I enjoy or want to get done instead.

Any general tips, words of encouragement, or insight would be appreciated.

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Just wanted to make a post showing support before the Jan and Feb test. Try to relax during these next several days. If you're feeling extra anxious, biting your nails or can't eat food, go outside and take a super long walk. It will clear your brain and help you concentrate. Don't rush through study materials now. Just focus on what you already know and skim through basic prep.

On the night before the test, get good sleep. If you can't sleep try to take a long hot shower. Don't drink too much water. Wake up early the next day so you can go to the bathroom if you need to. In the hours before the exam, just go outside and walk around. I went into my backyard and talked to my girlfriend on the phone for hours. It helped distract me from all of my anxiety.

During the test, I took a glass of water with me and a rag. The rag was just to wipe my hands if they were sweaty. It relaxed me to have it on the table too for some reason. I also put every clock away because the noise was distracting.

Technology tips: Put your phone on airplane mode during the exam. Don't turn it off. The proctor didn't even ask me if it was turned on. If you have technical difficulties you can reach right behind you and get LSAC on the phone as quickly as possible. Make sure your camera and audio work every single day. Check your laptop every day. DO NOT UPDATE YOUR WINDOWS OS. Please please please. Pick up your laptop and shake it with the camera on. My camera went out when I picked my laptop up during the 10 minute break between sections and I got screwed over in October. This is just something that happened to me so I'm passing it onto you guys.

Good luck. A lot of information but I've taken the test 4 times now and this is what I did to be as ready as possible for my exam.

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Hi there!

I'm currently registered to take the January LSAT this Saturday (14th), and the location that I'm planning on taking the test is one of the conference rooms in the office that I work. The business is closed on weekends so there shouldn't be anyone if the office at all so it should be fine in that regard. However, I'm concerned because the conference room has 1. two large mounted tv screens and 2. A "wall" that is really just a floor to ceiling window. I think I saw somewhere that this isn't allowed, but there are blinds that go down all the way from ceiling to floor. Any advice/perspectives would be helpful, thanks in advance!

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    I mean to actually do the PT, blind review and then review with answers. Usually for me the first step actually takes the least time. I probably spend 2x the time on blind review and about 2x more to make sure I fully understand every single question on the test. This can easily take me like 2 weeks to process a PT since I'm working full time. I feel like this can't be right and it's super low efficient lol am I doing something wrong here? Please advise and any suggestions will be appreciated!

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    Just started working through the core curriculum and I had a quick question about problem sets and quizzes. Is it better to complete 100% of the problem sets and quizzes? Or is it better to do some of them now and leave others uncompleted to review in the upcoming months?

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    Hi!

    I have been studying for a few months. About 3 months ago I plateaued at around 163. I was struggling to increase my score. I just took an untimed practice test and scored a 173. I noticed that so many questions (especially on the Logic Games) I initially got wrong but then with time and noticing that I messed up my diagram etc.. I was able to revise my answer choices to only get 1 wrong in the section. I was wondering if anyone had advice or tips on how I could proceed in my studying to help increase my timed practice scores given that my 173 shows that I have more potential to improve.

    I'm not sure if this is relevant but my untimed score was (-3 RC, -3 LR, -1 LG)

    Thank You!

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    I recently took my first 2 PTs EVER after finishing the CC, and the entire time I took both PTs, I ran short on time. I was extremely anxious because I could already tell I wasn't going to score well, but after doing the blind review, my score jumped to the 160s both times, and now I'm very confused about what these scores say about me. On the one hand, I'm extremely, extremely disappointed in myself for getting a 137 but getting a 164 on the BR is confusing me lol do you guys think there is hope for me, or should I give up? What do you guys think the jump from the 130s to the 160s means? Am I just struggling with time, or am I lacking fundamentals? And what do you guys suggest I do to improve? Should I stop taking PTs and instead focus on studying the fundamentals, or do you guys think doing PTs will help me improve?

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    Hi,

    I’m about two weeks into the studying process, I started with the 7sage syllabus and plan on working through it until the end. Is this the most advisable way to study/learn the material? I’m aiming to take the LSAT on the June date. What else could I be doing besides what I’m doing now?

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    Hey guys I told myself that if I ever got a score I wanted I would write one of these because I benefitted so much from reading other people's journeys when I was studying and seeing what advice and wisdom they had. So here is mine, This is gonna be long but I think worth the read. Hope it can help at least someone out there. And if you want to skip my whole anime arc to look at section tips you can do that, it'll be at the end.

    (Background)

    When I started out I probably was something like -12/-11 in LR and RC and literally couldn't do any logic games at all. Also, I want to say I'm very intellectually curious but I'm not some genius at all. I think I'm just normal when it comes to intelligence, so keep that as a frame of reference. I'm a History Major so I had a decent base reading and writing, but I wasn't a good reader honestly and the LSAT would show me this (more on this later). I started studying the summer of my junior year going into my senior year. I did the syllabus and because of my low GPA, I had to absolutely crush this test. I eventually graduated with a 2.97 GPA from UF. Yea I know, I was a bad and immature student (especially my first year) who wasn't smart enough to wing it like others or like I had done in high school. With my bad GPA and feelings of guilt and insecurity over my college career, I knew I wanted to kill this test to not only give myself a chance at going to a good law school but hopefully one with some money paid off as well. I also knew I wanted to kill this test to prove to myself that I was smart enough and capable of being a truly great lawyer.

    First Summer Studying (Full-time Summer 21)

    I fell in love with 7sage from the start and didn't use any other website really. Let me just say J.Y. wherever you are I hope you are somewhere rich and happy because you deserve it. Anyways, my goal from the beginning was always the divine 170s. So when I started studying I tried to do it right. I took my time diligently going to through the syllabus and getting a good foundation. I literally did 100% of the syllabus and completed it very carefully and put a lot of hours in. This helped but also kind of didn't because of my planning. By the time I got to logic games and doing them over and over again to where I could start to get a grasp my summer was almost over... lol. Not to add reading comp and I knew ok I'm just not gonna be ready in time. Like I felt like even if I keep studying into the fall I could at best get a 160 and it would all get rushed and be a mess because classes would start up again and make studying kind of unrealistic/ impossible. So I delayed a cycle. And told myself that I would go into studying next summer with a good base and just know-how of how to study. I think this turned out to be a great idea.

    (Some tips)

    DON'T BE AFRAID TO TAKE THE TIME YOU NEED TO GET THE BEST SCORE YOU KNOW YOU CAN GET. It will be worth it and this test is beatable. Trust me, I and many others that are not as smart as you have done it. If you look at it from a purely monetary perspective this test is so worth it. You can literally earn 100,000 in tax-free scholarship money from doing well in this test and even something like 50,000 in scholarships from schools is very achievable. The only thing is, for most people, J.Y. is right; you should be looking at like a one-year timeline to get a crazy score like 170. This is just my opinion and I also want to say you know yourself and the type of student you are and if you are just really smart, or a really good reader already, have a good base and etc. THIS TEST IS VERY MUCH ABOUT KNOWING YOURSELF. I know a lot of people who study 3 months (not even studying that intensely) and get a crazy good score, but they're also the type of people I could see doing that. It is not really the norm I think, and I certainly was not like that although I've always really wanted to be that type of student.

    (Fast Forward One Year) Summer of 22' studying full-time

    So one thing that's awesome about this test is I think it really is like a sport, a very skill-based and technical sport like soccer for example. Meaning that your skills at this test won't just disappear when you stop studying and you kind of have the muscle memory and foundation after you've seriously studied. When I finished my senior year I started studying and after about a month of drilling I took a PT to see where I was at and I got a 159. I thought great it's early June I should start to see about a 3-point gain every month of studying and by August and September I'll be in the 170's... Lol anyone who has been through the fire knows how silly this is. Silly in the sense that I was in October ( 4 months of full-time studying later) with a fresh PT of 159 and a looming existential crisis. After my first PT that summer of 159 I struggled a lot to consistently improve. I was in the low 160's a lot. And my highest PT score was 168. I took an official LSAT in August and got a 157, took one in October and got a 159, but in November I got a 169 on an official LSAT. This is not normal my most recent PT up to that test was a 162. I don't want to sell any pipe dreams so don't think this will happen to you, I honestly got very lucky and blessed. Leading up to November, I was even ready to delay by another cycle and felt that I was just about to be truly able to dominate the test with some more months. But leading up to that November test I had now been studying 6 months straight plus a few months from last summer. I really did feel like I had it in me to reach that score. My blind review was really good to the point where I felt a lot like damn I could and should have gotten these and these right and that would have put me where I want to be. I feel like the more you put into this test the more you start to get a mastery over it and honestly loved that about it. I kind of miss it to this day. The test is just so technical, repetitive, and doable that the whole thing is really one big game. I think it's useful to think of yourself as an athlete when studying for a test. It might help you enjoy it more and I think it will let you avoid burnout

    I want to talk a little about burnout and my experience with it. Dealing with this is what ultimately allowed me to get my goal score and not delay my application for another cycle. I was down in a bad rut leading to my November test. my last chance at a good score for me this cycle. There were bad nights when I cried myself to sleep and was questioning whether I was smart enough to be a lawyer. I felt like I was barely making any progress at all when I looked at my PTs. At the same time though I knew that I was a lot better at this test than that. I knew what I could do if I was in form on test day and confident. So for the last week leading up to November, I didn't study at all. This was a lot for me because this was the longest break I had taken in 6 months I think and fuck me did it sure pay off. In my opinion, this test is not a test of hustling and grinding. Like most things in life consistency is King. Yes, you need to work really damn hard, but you also need to have patience and be kind to yourself. There will be times when you will doubt yourself, when you will even question your ability to read, and when you'll ask yourself how you will ever be a lawyer. This is normal. Understand everyone in this test is on their own journey and NEVER NEGATIVELY COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE. You have to be kind to yourself and understand that progress is not linear. This is a performance test and not a knowledge test. But if you are studying right you will get better slowly but surely. Trust.

    Ok that was my journey and now some general tips for how to study right: aka the fun part

    LR:

    -The most important thing about this section is learning how to dissect and digest arguments. A good LR taker will instantly recognize ok premise, conclusion, and premise and this supports this but this argument is actually hilariously bad for example this bc of 'X' oh and wouldn't you know that's answer choice B. Being able to read and analyze for argument structure is key and is how you should think about every question.

  • Good video about this. ->
  • Have a good grasp of fundamentals. Yes you need to be able to reliably diagram and do those easy cookie-cutter questions like J.Y.
  • -When you're truly good you get this feeling that all questions are honestly the same.

  • Don't rush, spend what it takes to know truly know what the question was about, how you got it wrong, how to get it right, what was the flaw,
  • Depth and quality over quantity in reviewing always
  • -YES BLIND REVIEW RIGHT

  • I used the loophole by Ellen Cassidy I recommend it, she's a G.
  • (IMPORTANT) LR is not completely technical the other half is mastering the language side of it. Understanding what you read is very important. As silly as it sounds. You should be able to read, understand, and remember the key points of what you read. Basic translation drills were huge for me for this. Having a clear memory picture of what you read is very important. If you don't remember what you read or misread a lot do translation drills( read the stimulus and copy what you remember). This will help with RC too.
  • RC:

  • YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ
  • Fundamentally it's just that, don't get distracted by all the gimmicks with this section.
  • Low Res is awesome and the only practical strategy I think there really is
  • If you are not great at RC you are probably a bad reader and that is ok. This section is all about just becoming a better reader and it's very doable. For me, I had to come to grips with that all my life I've been a bad and lazy reader.
  • To get to where the writers want you to be you need to physically exert more effort trying to understand every sentence you read. There are only 14 sentences per passage. You need to understand each one ( doesn't have to be perfect but you need to get a general gist at least)
  • -It is very important to understand the connection and flow of each sentence/ paragraph to each other and how it all connects.

  • Visualize everything as you read. doing this helped address how i'd always been a bad and bored reader
  • Read "Speed Reading with the Right Brain" for more on this
  • -You will automatically become better at going through the questions and reasoning through them by watching the videos.

  • Focus and concentration are very important for the whole test, but specifically this section where does things are easy to break. Try meditating it helped me i think. During RC you should feel like you are in lost in the passages and in flow and rarely checking the clock to make sure you are ok and slightly adjusting your pace if needed.
  • You don't need to speed read, quality of comprehension is king
  • LG:

    -Keep trying, and keep trying, and then still keep trying

    -And then keep trying. Foolproof that is btw

    -The whole "LG is fool proof"philosophy 7sage pushes is right in spirit but misleading i think. LG is still very hard. Even if you are amazing at it and getting -0 you can have games where you slip up.

    -The most technical and straightforward section keep chipping away and honing your skills and eventually you can get to around to something like 0-2 wrong.

  • Learn to pace yourself accordingly. Timing is everything with this section.
  • Your ability is not all how well you are able to do harder games but also your consistency in dominating easier games as well.
  • And lastly, again keep fool proofing and don't burn yourself out. You're in great hands with J.Y. you just have to remember to be patient and know that recovery is very important as well. You will get there I promise!
  • Well this has been a little embarrassingly long, but this test was my life for like almost a year cumulatively so idc. Ultimately I hope you come to learn more about yourself and grow as a person from this test like I have. And remember this is just some stupid test at the end of the day and it doesn't define your worth as a person or who you are. Hope you all reach your goals bc y'all are more than capable. Enjoy the ride sagers!

    P.S. waiting to hear back from schools right now but so far I have gotten into FSU Law with a full ride ($62,000) and that's as a super splitter like me (2.97 169). Dream big and don't let your head drop! you just might surprise yourself...

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    Thursday, Jan 5, 2023

    Testing Q's

    So I am taking my exam in April. Does anyone know what day we will take the test? On LSAC's website it says the 14th or 15th but how can we reserve a testing room if we do not know the date or time? Also, does anyone know when we register for testing times?

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    Hello everyone, I want to ask if paper pencil form of lsat is exactly same as online test? (for example January 2023 lsat) questions are exactly same for online test takers and paper pencil takers? I applied for paper pencil form of exam, and I am just curious.

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    I’ve been working my way through the syllabus top to bottom, completing every practice listed. However, I feel like by the 4th practice drill it’s too repetitive. I also feel like I’m just not focusing on the LSAT since there hundreds of hours between the first Prep Test and the next one on the syllabus.

    Should I be taking Prep Tests more spread throughout the syllabus? Am I okay to skip over some of the practice drills if I feel like it’s overly repetitive? Should I just trust the layout and keep chugging along?

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    Hello! I plan to take the January 2023 LSAT, and where I live, the WiFi can be spotty sometimes. What would happen if during the exam, my WiFi goes out? Would I be able to resume the exam if it came back on, or would I have to retake it another date?

    Thanks!

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    hey everyone! I'm starting to feel really down on myself with LSAT as a whole. I've been studying on and off for months now and I feel like I've barely made measurable progress. I plan to take the LSAT in June 2023, so I still have 6 months to go. However, I'm just feel so discouraged and I'm feeling the burnout. I work full time so trying to jam in studying on my breaks or off days is getting exhausting. I'm discouraged comparing myself to peers that are exceeding so well on their studies and prep tests.

    I recently took a break from the Core Curriculum for Logical reasoning because it started to drain me. I was given advice to just skip for now and move to the Logic Games section, which has actually resparked my interest in studying.

    I'm just seeking any advice on how to overcome this rut, and possible better study strategies to implement?

    Does anyone else work full time and still manage to feel like they are making progress on their studies? #HELP #HELLP #HELP

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    Hello,

    When I attempt to create a drill based on the 7Sage Virtual Tutor's recommended questions, the module states that it could not create a drill based on my criteria. I am running on a MacBook using Google Chrome and have already cleared my cookies & cache.

    Link to screenshots with issue:

    https://imgur.com/a/Wx2uYPz

    Thank you for the help!

    Edit: I don't know what's going on with the Imgur link, just copy & paste the link itself into the searchbar (even if it's already there) and it should work. It's trying to show the images in the post and glitching out.

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