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Hi everyone,

I'm a non-traditional student and have been studying for about a year. I work full-time at a law firm, have a wife and kids. I have a 1 1/2 year old and a 16 year old. I work days and my wife works nights, when I get home from work I have to watch the baby and on Thursdays and Fridays I have to go to my 16 year old sons football games. So basically everyday I start at 5:30am and don't have a break until 8:30pm at the earliest at which point my mind is just numb. My study times are 5:30am-7:30am but I've just lost the motivation and I've started to go to the gym in the mornings instead.

I pushed really hard for the August LSAT and didn't perform as well as I'd hoped. I got a 152. I know I need to re-take the LSAT and get a better score but I'm totally burned out. When I try to study it just feels like my mind is numb and I just can't seem care or focus. It's been about a month now, and I was scheduled to take the October LSAT, but I haven't been studying and I'm probably just going to have to move it to next year and apply for 2024 at this point.

Has anybody experienced this burnout and does anyone have any tips to get past it? Thanks!

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After months and months of study! This was the last section to really come into clarity. Wanted to post this to let anyone out their struggling know that you can overcome that obstacle! Keep pushing through, and try different avenues. It took a combination approach for me to figure this one out. Very thankful to 7sage and my tutor for all the help.

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Hi 7Sage peeps, does anyone know if we're allowed to use a monitor while connected to a laptop? Specifically, only the monitor screen will be in use, while the laptop screen will be completely off. ProctorU states:

"Multiple monitors/displays are not supported. If you have more than one monitor, you will need to disconnect all but one."

In my case, where only the monitor screen is on and the laptop screen is off, would that be an acceptable setup according to the requirements?

According to a previous discussion post, the user was told on test day that he could NOT use a laptop/monitor setup, despite verifying with ProctorU that his setup was acceptable prior to the test. That post can be found here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/29956

Any answers that could shed some definitive light on this question are greatly appreciated!

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Hey everyone! I took the LSAT for the first time in September, and been very frazzled past couple of days trying to figure out which one of my logic games was scored. One was relatively-ish easy, the other...let's not talk about it. I know PowerScore usually goes into which ones they think were scored and was wondering if anyone knows how long after they usually get those out. Thank you!

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Hi all I am trying to gauge my chance of getting LSAT extra time accommodations. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Back story:

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a

kid and was on an IEP from 3rd grade

until HS. I then insisted on not being on

an IEP in Hs it because as a teenager I

was very anxious about the stigma it

came with at my school.

I was prescribed medication for ADHD until

sophomore year in college but never

completed an application for

accomadations during my studies. I

struggled in college with not receiving

accommodations but still pushed

through.

I am 27 now and have been

working in legal advocacy and

alternatives to incarceration for young

people with open court cases for the

past 4/5 years.

I am currently struggling with the LSAT

and can never finish a section

completely on time because it takes me sometimes a few minutes to even process the text. I continue to study but sometimes it feels impossible to be successful.

I want to get accommodations for extra

time but I'm afraid I won't because I

went without them for so long. Wish I

could go back now and tell my younger

self to ask for help but we are here now.

Does anyone have experience with this

stuff? Wondering what my chances are

with receiving an extra time

accommodation? Do you need a new

adult diagnosis? I've remained in

therapy for adhd/anxiety since I was 13.

Perhaps a letter from my current

provider and past ones will be enough

without the history of accommodations?

Let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much!

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Hi everyone, I just wanted to share some things that I think might be helpful. This is just my opinion by no means am I an expert, take it as you wish.

I took the test for the first time in august and basically lost it. My nerves totally got the best of me and completely took over, I could barely read. I bombed the first section. I truly thought all was lost for me and that this would happen with every test I took.

I worked really hard to get my anxiety and nerves in check for the September test and it definitely worked, I felt like a completely different person taking it and cruised through the test like it was a practice test. Here are some of the things I did that I think helped a lot with the anxiety.

  • I started meditating. I was very skeptical that meditation would actually help me and used to think it was dumb. But because I basically trust 7sage with my life at this point, I was willing to try anything they suggested for me. There is a page here from 7sage that talks about strategies to combat LSAT anxiety - https://classic.7sage.com/five-strategies-for-combating-lsat-anxiety/ I would highly recommend everyone read this, but one of the things they mentioned was meditation.
  • I started doing 5-15 minute mediations sessions about every other day, just by searching mediation on youtube and google. Here's one that I liked doing. This really helped me get used to calming myself by breathing, which is really helpful for the test.

    My proctor was extremely slow for this sept test and the whole process took a really long time, I know that if that happened during august test I would've been sitting there freaking out, but because I had practiced meditation, I was able to do a sort of semi mediation during that time which really helped. I also mediated for like 10 minutes about an hour before the test.

  • This may not be something that will work for everyone, but something else that really helped me was doing a few warm up questions about 45 minutes before the test. I feel most comfortable doing games and need the most help with LR, so I did two games, that I had already done before and then like 5-6 LR questions from the beginning of a random practice section. Doing this helped warm my brain up and prepare me without making myself overtired or anything like that.
  • Another way that you can warm up your mind is by reading a few pages of a book in the morning before the test. Just a fun easy read or maybe one of your favorite books. This helped to calm/distract me the morning of the test and helped just get in the reading groove for RC.

    food wise, I think food is really important to prepare for the test. Just as an athlete would focus on the way they eat a week before a big event, you should think about what you eat for the days leading up to the test. By no means am I an expert in this but I have done a lot of research and I really think this helped me but feel free to ignore this, we all know what makes us feel best.

    I made sure the few days leading up to the test to eat a lot of whole grains (whole grain pasta, whole grain rice, quinoa, oats, corn) as well as carbs I consider healthy and like (bananas, sweet potato, oranges, apples, beans) and that I had enough protein and was drinking enough water.

    The night before the test I had whole grain brown rice and whole wheat pasta. The morning of the test I had whole grain cereal (natures path brand) and blueberries with a protein drink. During the break, I had a few blackberries that I set out for myself outside of my room.

    I also tried my best not to over hype the test this time. They say to treat it like a practice test, which is true but hard to do. I think the best thing to do is to get into this mindset like a week before the test, not the day of. The week before the test I kept my normal study routine, do not overdue it the week of the test! I also didn't tell many people I was taking it so I didn't get too many "good luck" texts, because sometimes I think when you know that people are waiting to see how you did and stuff this can make you more anxious.

    Last little thing, the week of the test I did still hangout with my friends up until like Tuesday or Wednesday. It is still good to go to bed early and take it easy, but if you lock yourself away for like a week and a half before the test you are going to make yourself crazy.

    (I also will note that I do think taking the test more than once can help a lot just because the second time around you will be more used to the proctor situation and as much as it is like a practice test, it always feels different on the day of the test so it's a good experience to have. But I get this is not an option for everyone.)

    Hope this helps anyone struggling with test anxiety, it can get easy to get into a life or death mindset with this test, getting rid of these types of mindsets can go a long way for controlling your testing anxiety!

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    I'm currently working through the core curriculum and like taking a break to read discussion posts about success stories, score increases, and study habits. Especially with study habits, I get excited at the thought of having completed the core curriculum and can take what I know and apply to PTs.

    My main question comes for those of you having completed the core curriculum and are now studying without the guidance of the core curriculum. PTing is relatively straight forward. BRing is all about the review of the PT and evaluating every answer choice you're not sure of under an untimed environment. 7Sage recommends about 2-3 PT a week with BR so account for 2-3 days for that.

    What are you doing when you're not PTing and BRing?

    I see a lot of users talk about their study habits of 5-6 days a week. What does the day of studying look like when you're not PTing and BRing? Are you going over core curriculum videos? Are you reviewing vocabulary and materials that assist in LR? Are you doing drills and practice sets? Just curious of how you set up your study sessions when you're not dedicating most of your time to PTing and BRing? Thanks!

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    Hi everyone!

    On Wednesday, September 21st, at 9:00 PM ET, we'll be hosting a webinar about "Pre-phrasing your Way to Success on Logical Reasoning."

    If you're someone that sometimes feels disoriented by answer choices or are running out of time on LR, this webinar will hone an important skill for improving both speed and accuracy.

    For this webinar, we'll be going over the importance of pre-phrasing, which question types benefit from a pre-phrase vs. which ones don't, how to do it, the degrees of concreteness a pre-phrase could have, and the level of flexibility they should all have.

    → Please register for the webinar here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_D5nZuClqSDSO-CwOER_uMQ

    ⚠️ After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

    ⚠️ You’ll have to register for this webinar in advance.

    The webinar will be recorded, and we may post it on our site or on YouTube. We may also share the audio on our podcast.

    If you want to ask a question, you should connect via a computer instead of calling in. We also recommend that you join the webinar a few minutes early and test your microphone.

    Want to learn more about our LSAT Tutoring Program? Schedule a free consultation with this link:

    https://calendly.com/7sage-consult/7sage-tutoring-free-consult?utm_source=DF

    If you have any questions, please feel free to comment down below! I hope to see you there!

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    As the October test is fast approaching, I want to maximize my time and increase my score by a few points. I have a general sense of what questions I'm getting wrong/am unsure of and the reasons why I get confused and choose the wrong AC. My question is how much time do people spend reviewing the PT and going through explanation videos? I'm finding that I try to thoroughly go through JY's explanations but I feel as if I'm losing precious time to drill and make sure my understanding of certain Q types is concrete.

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    Hi guys. I already wasted my 4 chances of LSAT, with one score cancelled, before knowing 7sage and looking up to my 5th test this Oct but I have completed only 30% of the 7 sage curriculum and feels unprepared. Because all my previous scores are way below my goal score so upcoming tests are the watershed for me.

    I'm thinking about cancelling the Oct LSAT but before that I wanted to make sure. My question is, if I took my first LSAT in June 2021 and 4th LSAT in January 2022, when can I take my 6th LSAT after taking 5th in October 2022? Is it 2027?

    Also, if I decide to take my 5th LSAT later such as June 2023, am I not eligible to take LSAT until 2028?

    It's really frustrating to accept the bad choices I made but I am really eager to get into a Law school and overcome this situation. Can anyone give me answers? Thank you in advance and hope you guys have good luck in your LSAT journey.

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    Hi everyone! I would really love some advice right now

    I just graduated university in May with my B.A. I started studying for the LSAT late 2019, and around early 2021 I begun studying very sporadically as my Thesis was taking up a lot of time. Eventually, that same summer, I stopped studying altogether as classes and thesis work pretty much consumed all my time. I did a full honors program in undergrad, so as you can assume, I had very little free time to study for LSAT, and this became especially true mid 2021. Because I knew I wanted to take a gap year, I decided to stop studying for the LSAT altogether starting my senior year of college. Thesis was taking up even more of my time and my family opened a business that I helped out with 3 times a week, so I decided to wait until I could fully dedicate myself to studying for the LSAT to recommit.

    Fast forward to now, I am out of school, and working part time in order to commit as much time as possible to LSAT studying. My gap year goals are to save some money, get an internship, and, most importantly, study for the LSAT.

    I am currently applying to masters programs and want to apply to law school Fall of 2023 (Hoping to pursue a dual program!). This means I need to take the LSAT no later than next summer.

    Now for the question: should I start the 7sage course from scratch? I feel like I have a general understanding of the test, and of the basics of each section. It's the habits that I know I need to build up again. I decided to purchase another LSAT trainer book because I felt very confident after finishing it a few years ago and figured I should re-read (and utilize those drills). As for 7sage, I never stopped paying my subscription because I was worried I might lose my progress, but now I am unsure on whether I should go over the 40% of the curriculum I completed or just pick up where I left off. I took quite the break from LSAT studying so I guess I am questioning just how prepared I am.

    As for practice tests, I didn't take too many, because I wanted to wait until I could fully commit to LSAT studying to use up all the practice tests I have available. I definitely did a LOT of drills my first year of studying to compensate for not taking practice tests, but I had a lingering feeling my senior year would make it difficult for me to study for the LSAT which is why I left the amount of practice tests I took to a minimum.

    I decided to shoot for the April or June 2023 LSAT, but no later. I feel somewhat confident knowing I thoroughly studied for this test before, but just need some guidance on how to get back in the groove of all of this. All the J.D. programs I am interested in are at schools that are VERY difficult to get into, so I am hoping to aim for the 170s range. As difficult as it is to score in that range, I'm hoping my previous LSAT knowledge and ample study time will work in my favor. Would really appreciate some advice as I work on my study schedule!

    Thank you :)

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    Current PT-ing in the low-170s, and I'm looking for a tutor to help me with LR. I consistently score -0 in LG, -2/3 in RC, and about -3/4 in LR. My goal is to perfect LR and get it down to -0/-1 in order to get into the mid to high-170s range.

    I honestly don't need much help with general conceptual stuff, but I do have a few very specific weaknesses I'd like to work on. It would really help to see how a high LR-scorer approaches certain question types and hopefully I'll pick up some useful techniques/strategies along the way. (I do ask a lot of nitty-gritty and detailed questions though, so please don't get annoyed 🙃) Please pm me or leave a comment if you'd be interested!

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    My professor asked me to write a first draft of a letter recommendation so that he could work off of what I write. I met this professor at community college but he also teaches at another university. Should I explicitly state in the letterhead that he is a professor at a university and community college or only the community college at which he taught me? Or should I just leave it blank and let him decide?

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    I went from scoring 166-167 to a 159 after two weeks of not studying because of school starting and getting COVID :( I'm taking in October and looking for a 170+ and things were looking good beforehand but now I'm feeling pretty discouraged. Any tips for ppl who have regressed like this?

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    Hello everyone, I was hoping someone could explain what could’ve caused a sudden score increase. For reference, I typically score in the low 150s sometimes as low as 148/149. My last 3 PT scores were:

    PT76: 152 / BR: 160

    PT64 (Modern): 148 / BR: 154

    PT75: 149 / BR: 158

    Then:

    PT58 (Modern): 158 / BR 164

    I just started going through the CC after completely ignoring it for months (my previous routine was strictly drills and PTs). So, while I am happy with this increase, I was curious; is PT58 exceptionally easy? Or should I feel like I earned that score? Is it possible that the “modern” setting inflated my score? Just a bit confused as to how I could’ve achieved such a big jump. Hoping for some clarification. Thanks!

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    Hello everyone,

    I have been studying for the LSAT for about 4 weeks now. I study 6 days a week, about 6-8 hours a day, and I feel like I'm not making any progress. I take untimed drills because I just do not feel ready enough to answer 5 questions under 5 minutes, but I continuously get a 3/5 or 4/5 on a good day which usually takes me about 10-12 minutes to complete today, I received my first 0/5 on a drill, and I'm just feeling super discouraged that after 4 weeks of studying I feel like I see no difference in my performance and I'm almost starting to feel a little dumb, and I'm starting to question my career choices please share your experience with me and how you overcame this feeling. Also, is performing under timed conditions something that will eventually come to me over time, or should I worry about the fact that after 4 weeks, I still struggle with time so much?

    Thank you in advance!

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    I'm really struggling, and I have been all summer, with following a daily study routine. As many of you can relate to, I have classes Mon-Fri, and I also work part-time. When I have an overwhelming week, the first task I scale back is LSAT Prep, but I know this is hurting my performance because it results in an inconsistent cycle of insufficient study time.

    What does your daily study schedule look like, and how did you manage to make it a habit? Any feedback is appreciated.

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    I just took a pretest and had gotten 25 wrong. How should I review or go over the ones I got wrong. What excersise should I undergo to make sure I have gotten a proper understanding as to why I got these questions wrong and how can I improve. Also should mention the ones I got wrong were specifically in LR & RC I'm -0 in LG.

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