Are the upcoming LSATs still going to have an experimental section? I just took a preptest from June 2019 and it doesn't look like one of the sections was omitted. And then when I googled it, people were talking about the June 2022 one not having one either. Why is this? I'm taking mine in January.

I got a 165 in Oct which I am extremely happy with, but since I was consistently PTing higher than 165 I decided to take the Nov test. My plan was to cancel the Nov Lsat score if it was anything lower than my 165. Well I got my Nov score back and it's a 164. Should I cancel this score since it's lower than 165 or should I keep it because it's only one point lower? A 164 is still above the medium LSAT sore of most of the schools I am applying to (LMU, USD, Pepperdine), but I am also applying to higher ranking schools and 165 is their medium.

I am concerned that if I cancel it will look bad and I don't want admissions to assume I did a lot worse than 165. But I also don't want them to think I got lucky with my 165 if I do not cancel. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also my gpa is 3.56.

I keep seeing people say that if you apply on the later side schools may run out of scholarship money, but then I see people talking about re-negotiating scholarships after the first seat deposit deadline in April.

Does anyone know how this works/how much money schools usually have for later negotiations? I'm trying to get an idea of how much scholarship money a school would have left for an application submitted on February 1st if it was a top application for the school. Would they still have enough scholarship money to give that top applicant a good scholarship or will that applicant have to try through renegotiations?

I started out with a diagnostic of 148 and got 158 on my first administration before coming to 7Sage. Delayed applying for another year to relearn the foundation with the Core Curriculum and practiced for months on end. The progress took so long that there were many days when I felt there is no way I am getting to that 170 mark but alas! It may feel like it's not going to get better but I promise you, it will! Wish you all great success on this devilish test we call the LSAT and sending good energy to everyone applying this cycle :)

So I've now scored a 157 twice and have a 3.52 GPA. My only goal is to get a full scholarship from New York Law School (about 25% of their students get full scholarships). I'm not concerned about getting in but am likely right on the borderline for the full scholarship and I know I can score better than a 157 if I take the January LSAT, but is it even worth it? I feel like I could definitely use a couple extra points to get me over the edge, but I called the admissions office and they said 200 spots have already been given out so I feel like I need to get mine in ASAP.

I plan on taking my LSAT in January and I'd say I'm pretty far into my studies, however there are a few areas in LR and RC that I'd like to polish up between now and my LSAT date. I haven't heard much about the live classes but I was wondering if it would be worth it for me to upgrade for the month and join in on a few before taking my test, or would it be pointless. I'm not sure how in depth the classes are, but I am definitely past the basics of the LSAT and wasn't sure if the classes would benefit me much.

I just wanted to say thank you to 7sage for helping me increase my score. I lost hope after my first test but after switching to 7sage and changing my mindset, I was able to (almost) get the score I wanted.

If you are ever feeling down because of this test or feel like things are just not going your way, this test is and will never be a representation of who you are or how well you will do in law school.

Good luck!

Hi Everyone,

I've been studying for the LSAT for over a year and I've hit a wall with my test taking. I started studying Nov. 2021 and tested in August 2022 and November. Both tests I scored a 155. I've PT'd much higher than that and have blind reviewed higher than that as well. I'm feeling extremely discouraged to say the least. And I'm not sure what I can do anymore. I'm burnt out from studying for over a year, and I'm discouraged that I've made scant progress to what I actually want my score to be (maybe like a 160 or a 165). I really wanted to apply to law school this cycle but that seems near impossible now with the scores I have because they just aren't what I want. I'm already also applying so late that it might not even be worth it. Unfortunately law school feels like my only out since I'm at a job that I hate and I just want to move onto something more intellectually stimulating.

I know I'm not stupid, I know I'm extremely smart but I'm starting to think that this isn't for me anymore.

In short: are they any success stories out there? Am I wasting my time if I start studying again for another 6 months? Should I just pivot to a new career and throw in the towel?

Anyone else having this issue?

So I got all the books from powerscore and the practice exams and Mike Kim’s book. But I am not sure if I need to get 7sage monthly or the unlimited versions with the live videos since my brain is BLANK. Literally… also it is good to also use khan academy? Some people teach differently and I wonder if it will affect anything? Should I bite the bullet and get the unlimited version from 7sage… they have a special right now you get it for 200$ a month

i am aware that the new tests are with only 3 sections, however would it help me more if i continue practicing all 4 sections ?

Would it mess with the actual score ?

What are some things to take into consideration when practicing 3 or 4 sections?

I just cant manage the time to study right now. Can I pause my year long subscription? If so how and where?

What type of studying do I need to do to get in the mid to high 150s, I've never been a good test taker and I genuinely just need help on to know what I need to study, how long I Need to study. I haven't been doing the best with studying and I take my LSAT for the 3rd time in January. I need help PLEASE!!!!

Hi everyone! While I know this cycle is far from over, a lot of us may be gearing up to take the LSAT, draft essays, and generally starting our applications for next cycle. I’ve created a discord server that is intended to be inclusive (not T-14 focused) if anyone applying next cycle is interested in joining the community. I will also be adding law students who want to be available to answer any questions for other aspiring students. :) Feel free to join here: https://discord.gg/k8ZF7Sba

Hi, is there a way I can select specific PT from the drill section? Im trying to do PT53 but I don't see specific section for PT53. Is the only way to take the prep test in the lesson section?

Hi former 7sage subscriber to LSAT resources, which helped me get into Pepperdine Law ! I was wondering if anyone who has taken immigration law would mind sending me their outline and/or notes? This is the first time my school is offering this course, so I'm struggling to find an immigration law outline to help guide my studying and my own outline. Would appreciate it so much thanks.

With score release being today, I'm expanding the original scope of discussion for this. So we will discuss how to respond to disappointing scores as well as considering cycle delays. Hope to see some folks tomorrow.

Choosing to delay a cycle is a hard decision. It's one that makes many of us feel like we've failed. Often, though, we just underestimated the full extent of the undertaking. Law school is hard. It's really hard. And with the possible exception of the MCAT--and even then, for very different reasons--the LSAT is the hardest standardized test there is. So if you're facing a decision about what to do moving forward, you are not alone. I faced the same thing, made a hard call, and everything worked out fine. The decision that was right for me may not be the decision that's right for you. Each situation is a little different, and none of us will be balancing all the same factors the same. But if you're facing down the end of this cycle and aren't sure how to proceed, I hope you'll join me. Everything will be okay. You will figure it out. If my example can be of any help, I am glad to share my experience.

Thursday Dec. 1, 7pm CST

Hi everyone,

I'm a 173 scorer (4 months of study) and now tutoring students part-time. I offered a bunch of pro-bono tutoring this month and had a great response with almost to two dozen sessions.

I'm offering up some more sessions to help people get their studying on the right track. If you have questions about how to use your time effectively, building strategies for specific sections, or anything else big-picture LSAT study - feel free to reach out.

You got this (3(/p)

I have thought a lot , over the past year, about the finitude of official lsat questions published by lsac, and the finitude of practice tests. i think theres only 92 or 93 prep tests. What happens if i run out of all of these before I arrive at my goal scores? I have tried to "pretend to forget" how to play certain games , but it doesnt work. i immediately remember how to play the game, the major inferences etc. same thing with logical reasoning questions. even if i havent seen the question in 8 months, i immediately remember the right answer. this is a bad feeling because i didnt earn the right answer. and its a terrible way to get a ballpark diagnostic in my opinion. and its also bad preparation for my REAL test, where i will be faced with all new games and questions.

how do you approach the reality of finite lsat prep test resources? manhattan prep creates bunches of logic games from scratch which is cool, but does anything like that exist for logical reasoning? do any companies create logical reasoning questions that i can try to solve with fresh eyes?

I heard that the Logic Games would be removed in 2023, does anyone know which month or if this is even true? I plan to take my LSAT in February and have been studying for a whole year. I always get -0 on LG and it is my best section that allows me to get a good score after months and months of foolproofing. I read some sources saying June 2023 and some saying January 2023, but also all the sources I read were from 2019 so i'm not even sure if they're accurate. Please lmk if you have any info on this.

I've been plateauing in the low 160s - mid 160s for almost 6months. I went through all the popular prep books and have started re-reading them recently to check if I missed any fundamentals. To be honest, I think I am weak in all three sections. Usually, when I drill (timed mode), I don't get as many questions wrong as I do in PTs. For example, when I recycle my old PTs, including those I don't even remember the questions, I usually get 0-2 wrong in games, 3-5 wrong in LR, and 4-6 wrong in the RC. For the PTs I do remember, I tend to score better.

Whenever I try new PTs, the problem is that my score always returns to the low 160s. I missed so many questions that I think I could have gotten right. Recently, I get around 160-164 as scaled score while my blind review score is around low 170s. I feel extremely pressured when solving new PTs, but I don't know why this is constantly happening. Is it just because I didn't practice enough? I get disappointed in myself every day and feel totally lost. What should I do to break out of this endless plateau?

Hey everyone, i'm currently scoring in the low to mid 160's and i'm aiming to increase it to the upper 160's. I always BR there and definitely think it's possible. However, I have a limited amount of prep tests and only 10 weeks til my test. For those who overcame this hurdle, can you give some advice on what you did differently or started doing that got you there. Whether it is new drills, how you started approaching certain sections, study tips, etc.. I'm open to any suggestion and would highly appreciate it!

Hey all,

I took a diagnostic a few months ago and have taken maybe 4 PTs total. I am in no rush to take PTs but take a PT when I am too bored of CC.

One of my problems is I can't finish more than ~12 Qs per timed section (minus LG lol I finish way less here). A month ago my PT score was 135 --> 151 BR, and yesterday it was 132 --> 152 BR. I'm not happy with either, as my goal is 170 and hope to take the LSAT July 2023. I also work part-time and have obligations, so I study/review CC every other day for ~ 3 hours.

My questions are: is it normal to see very slow change? Should I focus on and complete CC before taking PTs? It's also hard to find motivation when I'm sucking so hard. Any and all advice welcome (3(/p)

Hi all,

I would love some advice from the community on when to take my first actual LSAT. I work full time, so I’ve been working through the CC for the past 3 months. I just took my first PT since the diagnostic, and I actually got my goal score, which I’m sure I can improve on. Of course I need to keep PTing to be sure I can maintain the score, but assuming I can do that over the course of 3-4 weeks….

I’m trying to decide whether to sign up for 1/2022 or 2/2022; I don’t plan to apply until the next cycle. I’m torn between wanting to keep up momentum for January, or continuing to PT until February and doing the best I possibly could, though I’d risk losing some momentum…

What do others think is the right timeline?

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